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MINUTES February 20, 2008
Chairperson, Terry Butler called the meeting to order at 8:30 a.m.
Commissioners in attendance: Mark Goodman, Fred Ayarza, Bill
Dinsmoor, Shae Singer and Roger Haneman. John Starr and Don Sheeley
were excused.
Erich Grueter -Car Share Program.
Erich said basically the program is a car cooperative. There is a pool of
vehicles parked throughout our town. You have access to use any of the cars
first come first serve. There is a monthly fee of $10. In addition hourly and
mileage fees are assessed. Presently we have 130 customers. 75 individuals
use the cars regularly more than once a week. The pool consists of 9 cars.
Terry suggested that there be a designated parking space for each car.
Erich said they tried that but the main issue with in town designated spaces
is someone always parks there even if it is designated.
Bill asked how you deal with those circumstances. Erich said he calls
parking and they issue a ticket.
Fred inquired about the vehicles. They have 3 Ford focus hatchbacks, 2
Ford focus wagons, 3 Toyota Prius and a pickup truck.
Terry asked how someone reserves a car. Erich said you reserve by a phone
reservation.
Erich said he has two different rate structures hourly and mileage.
Fees:
Application Fee: $25
Monthly Administration Fee: $10
Hourly Fee: $4.00
Mileage Fee: $0.25
Truck Mileage Fee: $0.35
Daily Rate:
Minimum Inconvenience Fee: $70
$20 and up depending on severity
Damage Deposit (optional) $100 refundable
Damage Fee $500
Lost Key Fee $30
Late Payment Fee $5
Emergency Clean-up $50
Incorrect Trip Ticket Fee $2
Returned Check Fee $25
Vehicle I.D Number (locations subject to change)
001: Toyota Prius: Spring/Hyman
002: Focus Sedan :Rio Grande
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003: Focus Wagon :Hunter Creek
004: Focus Sedan :Aspen Business Center
005: Focus Wagon :Centennial
006: Focus Sedan : Paepcke Park
007: Toyota Prius: Burlingame
008: Ford Ranger Pick-Up :Yellow brick (Kids First building)
009: Toyota Prius: TBD
Terry said she uses her car less than once a week.
Erich informed the board that the program started in 2001. It started as a
City Hall employee car share program. It is anon-profit right now and the
City is taking over the program. There were some insurance issues as Cirsa
wouldn't insure us unless city employees where using.
Andrew Kole, public asked is there has been any discussion on expanding
the program. Erich said it is expanding and we have two new cars.
Fred said not enough people are aware of the program.
Terry said she agonizes about paying $400 a month rent to park her car.
Mark said there is the question of liability having your own car.
Bill said Zip car is a large National business. We should find out what the
criteria would be to expand zip cars in our city. On the demand side this is
one of the areas if our community got serious it would be impactful. Zip car
uses a magnetic strip to open the car and get into it.
Shae said there are car share programs for electric cars in existence in other
resort areas. We need to reduce cars in our community. We should make it
a requirement for employee housing as part of the process to bid you would
have only one car and the people would be notified of the electric car
program. You could have several cars at one site.
Terry suggested having 3 cars at Burlingame due to the amount of housing
that is at that site.
Mark asked who Roaring Fork Valley Vehicles entity is. Erich said they are
anon-profit and are being taking over by the City as of 2008. We need a
study on behalf of the community to do this on a much larger scale.
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Terry suggested a brown bag lunch to work with Erich and see if the
program can be expanded. Erich said he would be happy to work with
anyone but he doesn't want to over commit himself.
Bill said Erich's father is very talented and possibly he could be contacted.
Bill said we need conceptual support from City Council to go forward and
research and investigate a business model for the City.
Mark asked what zip cars charge. Bill said $10.
Erich said Flex cars and the RFVV are modeled after zip cars. The issue
with their system is that it is web based. My reservations are by phone
based and I'm looking into a phone web base.
Andrew asked from 1-10 how effective is the program. Erich said overall it
isa6or7.
Shae asked what the goal is of the RFV vehicle program. Erich responded to
keep people from driving their cars everywhere. It started in Switzerland to
use some sort of mass transit and during the day you have the option to use
another vehicle instead of mass transit.
Erich said they do surveys but mostly it is for customer service.
Andrew said the program was to reduce cars down town. They failed to
promote the program. Find out the numbers and source users.
Terry said we need a light proposal in order to go forward at a work session.
Mark asked how much money they are using. Erich said RFVV pays for
everything.
Bill said in conjunction with Erich we need to know everything about the car
share program.
Shae said she will work with Erich on a light proposal.
Roger said the demographics are important from the users.
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Plum TV
Andrew said he is working with Kutcher Miller from Plum TV. They would
like to televise the Saturday Market. The basic idea would be to be onsite
from 8:00 - 11:00 every Saturday. From 8:00 -10:00 they would do a cut
away during the show to the market. They might do 4 cutaways. From
10:00 to 11:00 we could pick a topic and the second cut would be a vendor
interview. The show would be broadcast live in the evening and during the
week to promote the market. Kathy said they could provide a tent adjacent
to the musicians. At the agriculture meeting it was suggested that we have
more advertising and this would be a great avenue.
MOTION: Fred moved to approve Plum TV televising the Saturday Market;
second by Shae. All in favor, motion carried.
Election of Vice-chair
Bill nominated Mark. Terry nominated Shae.
Shae 4 votes, Mark 2 votes.
Shae Singer, Vice-chair.
Saturday Market update from the agriculture meeting.
Kathy reported that some of the agriculture vendors did not like the Saturday
market bags because they where too small and some of the vendors did not
want to use them.
Shae pointed out that the City Council governs the Saturday market and
CCLC is mandated to run the market. We need to support the canary
initiative. Kathy said the agriculture board would like to give away the
existing bags and many of them already do that with large purchase. Kathy
also pointed out that it is important that the market support the City in being
(green).
The board said it didn't matter what kind of bags any of the vendors used but
they needed to be recycled.
MOTION: Shae made the motion that we require all vendors at the
Saturday Market craft and farmers alike to utilize biodegradable or a
recycled bag. Motion second by Fred. All in favor, motion carried.
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Kathy also said at the meeting it was recommended that the bathrooms be
open unti13:30 p.m. The 2009 market end date would be Oct. 17`". The
CCLC board had no problem with either one of the recommendations.
Kathy also mentioned the discussion of off-site produce. A few of the
agriculture vendors said they will just tell their vendors if asked where the
produce came from. Kathy said in the past we had an agreement with the
agriculture group that all produce that was not Colorado or off-site should be
identified by a sign. Patrons pay a lot of money for produce and they
support the market. It would degrade the market if items off-site are not
identified.
Bill said off-site produce has to be identified off farm produce and it needs
to be made very obvious.
MOTION: Bill made the motion that all farms must identify any produce
that they do not produce or grow themselves. It has to be identified where it
came from; motion second by Fred. All in favor, motion carried.
Shae suggested having a public soap box at the market. Members where
unsure until they understood it more.
Food demonstration and Food cart.
Shae said she knows of two chefs that might want to do a food
demonstration two or three Saturdays.
Bill said the food demonstration and selling what they made at the
demonstration would resolve the issue of selling consumable foods at the
market. We had this discuss in the past and selling of food competes with
local restaurants. We voted against it in the past. It is a bad idea. If done
properly the food demonstration could work.
Fred said possibly Whole foods, which is coming soon would be interested
in doing the food demonstration.
Kathy mentioned a portable food cart. Each agriculture vendor would sign
up and sell from the cart or we could hire someone to run the cart. This idea
would have to be approved by the City and Environmental Health because
presently it is not an allowed use. The board had much discussion about the
portable cart.
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MOTION.' Bill made the motion that the cart idea not be pursued; second
by Fred. 3-2 approved. Bill, Fred and Mark voted yes. Terry and Shae
voted no. Roger abstained.
Bill said as part of the restaurant community we agreed that we would try
not to infringe on the restaurants.
Terry said she visited various markets and they have much more food.
People would hang around the market longer if food was provided. Fred
also said people congregate where food is.
MOTION: Fred made the motion to explore the opportunity of expanded
food, snack food to include a cooking demonstration; second by Shae. All in
favor, motion carried 6-0.
MOTION: Terry moved to adjourn; second by Shae. All in favor, motion
carried.
Commissioner Comments:
Mark said the City council has dropped the ball and we are not marketing to
our tourists. We need tourist coming to town. Shae suggested we contact
the ACRA to find out what they are doing to promote tourism in Aspen.
Me~eti~ng adjourned at 11:00 a.m.
Kathleen J. Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk