HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.council.20080303Regular Meeting Asnen Citv Council March 3 2008
Mayor Ireland called the special meeting to order at 5:10 with Councilmembers Johnson
and Romero present. Councilman DeVilbiss and Councilman Skadron have been recused
due to a conflict of interest.
ORDINANCE #29, SERIES OF 2007 - 307 S. Spring/625 E. Hyman Subdivision
(Wienerstube)
Mayor Ireland said the applicants have submitted materials outlining their proposed
changes from the January 28`h meeting. Councilmembers indicated they have reviewed
those materials. Jessica Garrow, community development department, reminded Council
at the January 28`h meeting, Council asked the applicant to address 3 aspects of the
project; the long term affordability of the commercial spaces; the height; the amount of
affordable housing in the project. Ms. Garrow noted the applicant addressed two of the
aspects. They have not changed the amount of affordable housing, which is 12 units on
site and acash-in-lieu payment for 2.25 full time equivalent employees.
Ms. Garrow said the most significant change is a commitment to deed restrict commercial
spaces along the alley and mid-block walkway. Ms. Garrow said there is 7,823 square
feet of net leasable and 2,046 square feet will be deed restricted to 50% of the rate for the
remaining net leasable area. The deed restricted space will be separately demised and
cannot be incorporated with spaces fronting the street. These spaces are intended to cater
to different type of businesses. Ms. Garrow noted staff is concerned about insuring there
is vitality in the mid-block walkway and on the alley and there are conditions to try and
address that concern; a detailed lighting plan to create some interest in the space;
elimination of vehicle/pedestrian conflicts; a prohibition on office and storage uses for
these spaces.
Another major change is to the architecture with more articulation of the building.
Exhibit B in Council's packet has a height and roof top analysis showing 1 % of the
building is 42' high, which is the maximum allowed height in the C-1 zone district. 25%
of the building is at 40' to 40'6" and 51% of the building is between 38' and 38'6". Ms.
Garrow said the roof variations add architectural interest to the building and help to meet
the new commercial design guidelines. The application was submitted before the new
commercial design guidelines were adopted and the applicants have made an attempt to
meet some of those guidelines.
Ms. Garrow recommended approval of the subdivision, which is the demising of spaces.
P&Z has reviewed and approved design issues and the AACP discusses these issues but
does not address subdivision of spaces directly.
Stan Clauson, representing the applicants, told Council they worked with staff to try and
come up with a mechanism for affordable retail, which does not currently exist in the
municipal code. Clauson said they felt the best way to do this was to tie it to the
affordability within the context of the building itself. Clauson said it has been difficult to
assemble the data on commercial rents within block or zone districts. The proposal for
affordable commercial is that those spaces which have alley access and access through
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the central comdor will be deed restricted to 50% rent of the going rate of the market rate
rentals for spaces along Hyman avenue. The Wienerstube space is under a separate lease
agreement. Clauson said 30% of the commercial space of this building will have some
restrictions on the rental rates. Clauson pointed out the space for affordable housing
represents 51% of the total residential component of the building. Andy Wisnoski,
architect, went through the drawings showing where commercial and residential spaces
are located within the building.
Clauson reiterated the maximum height in the C-1 zone is 42' and only 1 % of this
building is at 42'. Clauson said 51% of the building is 38' to 38'6". Clauson said there
are parts of the building at 28'8" which is 21 % of the building. Wisnoski noted the
percentages are based on the building, not site coverage. Clauson said 2% of the building
is 9' and 25% of the building is 40' to 41'6". Clauson pointed out on the Hyman fagade,
there was a 30' wide section that went to the full height of the building; this section has
been pulled back 5' so the entire Hyman avenue facade is stepped back on the third level.
Clauson told Council the applicants have discussed with staff putting the entire building
at 38'6", which would eliminate some of the variations of the roof lines. Clauson said
staff felt a variegated roof line was more desirable than 38'6" flatter roof.
Wisnoski noted there is a series of sections through the buildings outlining the
relationships of height and how the different levels work. Clauson pointed out a height
test was done with balloons over the weekend and the applicants feel the representation is
misleading. Clauson reminded Council they previously presented studies showing that
the view of Aspen Mountain will not be totally blocked. Clauson noted there are
protected view planes within the city. In areas where there are not protected view planes,
the zoning provides protection for adjacent properties.
Clauson reiterated the affordable housing is being provided on site; it is 12 units; it meets
the code. Clauson said there was a suggestion to locate the affordable housing
somewhere off site. Clauson said that is not supported by the code or by the AACP
which states it is desirable to locate residents close to the commercial core as possible.
Clauson reminded Council the proposal is to meet energy star requirements. Clauson
stated the building is designed to provide benefits to the community; it is not a box; it has
facade variation; the mid-block passage was incorporated from the commercial design
guidelines to break up the building.
Councilman Romero asked about the exclusion of the Wienerstube square footage where
it is subtracted from the other commercial affordable. Clauson said the Wienerstube is
under a separate contract, which agreement was provided to Council. Councilman
Romero asked if there have been any design moves that reduce the overall height of the
building or has the applicant just provided better information in cross sections and
stepped back that one 30' section. Ms. Garrow said it is better information; the stepping
back helps to decrease the perceived mass from the street. Ms. Garrow said the offer to
lower the building to 38'6" was not addressed in the staff memo because it was not a
formal proposal. Ms. Garrow said the heights as presented give variation to the building.
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Councilman Johnson entered into the record e-mails from Lani White, Gail Otte and
letters from Bruce Carlson, Friends for Preserving Aspen's Neighborhoods and Character
and Citizens for Responsible Growth. Councilman Johnson said the Citizens for
Responsible Growth make a claim and have attached addendum A and asked for
comment from special counsel.
Councilman Johnson asked how the applicants devised the proposal for the affordable
commercial area. Clauson said the thought process was that the applicants identified
spaces at the rear of the building with alley access that would be inherently more
affordable. These were spaces without front access. Council questioned whether these
would be affordable spaces, and the applicants felt devising an affordable program would
give some certainty. Clauson said it seemed difficult to peg that affordability to spaces in
the commercial core and that the market rate within this building would provide a metric
for an affordable rate.
Councilman Johnson asked if the applicants have met with the neighbors. Clauson said
they did not have an opportunity to meet with the neighbors. Clauson noted this project
has had a protracted review. Clauson said the neighbors' position is that athree-story
building is incompatible with this area. Clauson said the applicant's cannot provide the
affordable housing and other benefits in a two-story building on this site. Councilman
Johnson asked why the first level commercial space has a floor to floor height of 13'6".
Wisnoski said that has to do with how the space on the back side is divided up. Wisnoski
said there is a commercial guideline noting that commercial spaces should be higher. On
the back there are 2 levels of affordable housing to match the front end and to have one
circulation system.
Ms. Garrow went through the computer sketch up plan illustrating the neighborhood,
existing buildings and their heights.
Mayor Ireland opened the public hearing.
Bill Wiener thanked Council for the appointment to the Historic Task Force and told
Council they have a lot of work to do and urged Council not to approve the Wienerstube
application until all the recommendations come from the Task Force. Raymond Auger
said a height of 42' is vandalism for a community that depends upon its setting. and
anything that obstructs that setting degrades the community.
Mitch Haas questioned the policy for requirement of affordable commercial when there
have been no code amendments, no definitions. This is not in the land use code. Haas
said there should be a public process before something like this is required in
development; there should be scrutiny of the concepts and of the philosophy. Haas
suggested staff look at what affordable commercial could do to existing businesses
paying market rents. Councilman Johnson noted Council is not requiring affordable
commercial; it is a suggestion from the applicants.
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Jessie Boyce said a tall building on the north side of a street provides a solid concrete
canyon. Boyce suggested buildings should have setbacks and be setback from the
sidewalk. Toni Kronberg presented a board of photographs to dispute the assertion that
this building fits in with the character of the existing neighborhood. Ms. Kronberg
pointed out no buildings in the azea are higher than the Wienerstube. Staff noted this is
Kronberg exhibit A.
Chazles Cunniffe noted the provision for 50% of the rental rates for the spaces facing the
street does not necessarily make a space affordable. Cunniffe noted there aze 3 story
buildings in the neighborhood that aze 28' not 38'6". Cunniffe said natural light is
important to this neighborhood. Dave Eggleston, 616 E. Hyman, said affordable
commercial sounds like a good theory; however, these spaces on the alley will probably
be discounted anyway. Eggleston told Council in the 616 E. Hyman building, the spaces
off the alley aze 3 times cheaper than the street front spaces. Eggleston said it is
Council's responsibility to retain the integrity of Aspen and if large projects like are
approved, there will be no character left.
Fred Martel said when this building is built, the street will be dazk and there will be no
views of the mountain. Building owners across the street will then want to rebuild a
higher building. Charles McCartney, Chateau Aspen, requested this application for
redevelopment of the Wienerstube be denied as proposed. McCartney said the proposed
height and size will overwhelm the existing neighborhood and block the natural light.
The AACP requires height, scale and new development to be within context of the
existing neighborhood and this project does not conform.
W. R. Walton, 635 E. Hopkins, stated this has been presented as a 3-story building;
however, it appears to him a 4-story building. Walton asked about mechanical equipment
on the roof and how much height this will add. Walton said the cash-in-lieu offered is
less than would be required. Sean Gooding said the top floor should be set back more.
Roine St. Andre said there has been no mention of the environment and the building of
this will cause pollution and noise. Ms. St. Andre said there are laws against noise and
idling, which laws aze not complied with. Ms. St. Andre said she loves the open space
and the natural beauty of Aspen and everyone wants to preserve what they love.
Junee Kirk said the context of the neighborhood along Hyman avenue is 2-story buildings
with setbacks and patios. This proposed building is 38' high and is massive and boxy
and inappropriate for the neighborhood. Ms. Kirk said there is a letter with 60 signatures
concerned that the AACP is not being adhered to. Jordie Gerberg asked why this
building is not on the list of potential historic properties, it is almost 50 years old and is
significant.
Shazon Wright, Chateau Aspen, said there has been an attempt to lower the building on
the Hyman avenue side; however, Chateau Aspen's condominiums will face a 42' wall
and will be in darkness. Steve Stevens said it is not Council's responsibility to make
decisions so that developments can make money. Stevens said this building is too large.
Bob Baum, 704 E. Hyman, said the construction going on in Aspen is out of line. Baum
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said they wanted to put up wood so that neighbors could see what 42' would look like.
Baum said the developers have not worked with the neighbors. Annalee Lucas suggested
the 12 affordable housing units make this building large. Christine Crandall reminded
everyone, the community and Council just went through a long discussion about
Ordinance #48 and what is historic in this community. Ms. Crandall said there has been
almost no redevelopment in this neighborhood and it is important to look at the historic
values and there are properties on this block that are on the list of potentially historic
properties. If this project is approved, it will set a new tenor for this neighborhood. Lani
White said she agrees with the comments from the public.
Mayor Ireland closed the public hearing.
Clauson said there are comments from people who feel disenfranchised by development
occurring in Aspen. Clauson said there is a zoning code with rules which is intended to
quantify and express the AACP in metric terms. Clauson said the AACP does not
suggest that the zone districts are optional in considering development. Clauson noted
the applicants have asked for nothing outside of the existing land use codes. Clauson said
other developments that have been referred to have come through the PUD process and
have asked for variances in height or density. Clauson stated the city's commercial
design guidelines require that buildings be right on the street and do not permit patios to
set buildings back. Clauson pointed out the corner of the building at Hyman and Spring
is only 30' high, which is only 3' increase over the ridgeline of the current Wienerstube.
Clauson said the applicants felt that alley space would be more affordable commercial
space. Clauson said in initial discussions with applicants, they are told if they adhere to
the existing land use code and offer some additional community benefits, they should not
have trouble going through the land use approval process. Clauson said this applicant has
gone out of his way to offer community benefits. Clauson pointed out RMI has stated
that new buildings provide an opportunity for a comprehensive approach to an
environmental benefit.
Councilman Romero asked if, in fact, the applicants offered a 38'6" high building.
Clauson said the applicants could accept a condition the maximum height of the building
would be 38'6". Staff did not feel that was an advantage. Councilman Romero said this
application was filed under the old land use codes and during its review, the applicant
attempted to adhere to some of the concepts in the new commercial design guidelines
Councilman Romero said he feels the Wienerstube space be either part of the deed
restricted space or part of the free market denominator to come to that 50%. Councilman
Romero said what is internally consistent with the AACP then and now, it addresses fit,
scale, context and neighborhood and how design and the built environment should aspire
and conform to that. Councilman Romero noted Council requested the applicants meet
with the neighbors and try and work on fit, context, scale and appropriateness.
Councilman Romero said that is not part of the land use code; however, it is in character
and in community plan, and he is troubled the applicants have not met with the
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Councilman Romero said in the last 24 months, the city has accelerated impacts from
development and Council's awareness has been heightened. Councilman Romero said he
is dismayed by people using affordable housing as a negative in an application.
Councilman Romero noted affordable housing in the commercial core preserves a
working class in town and it also takes cars off the road. This project is proposing 12
affordable housing units in town. Councilman Romero noted energy efficiencies
standards aze built into the ordinance.
Councilman Romero said the AACP, land use code and zoning regulations fit together as
one big system and the community has a responsibility not to pick and chose which piece
to follow or not. Councilman Romero stated this application came under a different set
of rules than those in effect now. Councilman Romero said there are issues azound
affordable commercial, and it has not had a public process; however, for this application
it is a creative way to put energy into alleyway retail. Councilman Romero said there are
commitments to affordable housing on site, to a lower height, to the additional cash-in-
lieu For affordable housing, to alleyway retail and to the Wienerstube to come together
with the AACP and the zoning regulations.
Councilman Johnson said he does not feel this conforms to the land use code.
Councilman Johnson said there are no guarantees in the land use code. Councilman
Johnson stated Council did not change the criteria under which land use applications are
reviewed and those criteria are the same for the earlier review of the Wienerstube as this
current review. Councilman Johnson said attacking the amount of affordable housing in
the project when the community needs affordable housing seems hypocritical.
Councilman Johnson agreed about undertaking a public process around affordable
commercial. Councilman Johnson said this is the best example of an infill project
Council has seen. Councilman Johnson said one criterion he looks at is to what degree is
this project in opposition to the existing land uses in the area and to what degree does it
place pressure on existing buildings to redevelop.
Councilman Romero moved to adopt Ordinance #29, Series of 2007, on second reading;
seconded by Councilman Johnson.
Councilman Johnson pointed out the review criteria state "the proposed subdivision shall
be consistent with the Aspen Area Community Plan". Councilman Johnson said in ways
this application does; however, the public testimony is that the project fails to meet
neighborhood context and compatibility. Councilman Johnson noted public hearing said
the subdivision will be inconsistent with the chazacter of the existing land uses in the
area. Councilman Johnson said he understands how this application will adversely affect
the future development of surrounding areas and will place too much pressure on the
buildings across Hyman Avenue.
Councilman Romero cited the design quality of the AACP, "insure the chazacter of the
built environment is maintained through public outreach and education about design
quality, historical context and the influence of the existing built natural environment",
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which touches on 3 core components of the community plan. Councilman Romero said
the design quality and public outreach elements are his biggest concern.
Mayor Ireland said his decision is not based on the affordable housing component even
though the infill code creates a shortage of affordable housing which the community can
no longer meet. Mayor Ireland agreed not much maybe gained with this affordable
commercial proposal. Mayor Ireland said his decision is whether or not the land use code
makes the public hearing process moot. Mayor Ireland stated it is Council's
responsibility to review land use applications in the context of the entire code, not just
dimensional criterion, but also the relationship to the AACP as provided in the code.
Mayor Ireland said it was specific by the people who created the AACP to require a
review of the relationship.
Mayor Ireland said he would have liked data on the average and mean height of buildings
surrounding this application. Mayor Ireland noted this will be the tallest structure in this
neighborhood and will create a demand for other buildings to be high also. Mayor
Ireland said 38' or 40' buildings are appropriate for Aspen in the commercial core.
Mayor Ireland noted the applicants argue for adherence to a not yet adopted design
guidelines that suggest 14' ceilings, which are driving the scale of the building. Mayor
Ireland said the issues are is this consistent with the Aspen Area Community Plan, will it
have adverse effect, is there public outreach, and the answer is it is not consistent with the
AACP in context with its surroundings.
Clauson said the applicants have worked consistently to meet the Council's concerns.
There are categories of projects that receive no review at all. This project has received
every approval required except that of subdivision which is required by the building is
being condominiumized. Clauson said Aspen is a community that must more forward.
Clauson said Aspen will not get affordable housing in town without buildings that
include all the components of infill. Clauson said Council has extended itself beyond the
land use code.
Mayor Ireland stated he supports the principles of infill but this structure as embodied in
the code does not serve the purpose of infill, which is to create a balance. This proposed
building creates an imbalance because it is out of character with the neighborhood.
Roll call vote; Councilmembers Johnson, no; Romero, no; Mayor Ireland, no. Motion
NOT carried.
Mayor Ireland moved to deny Ordinance #29, Series of 2007; seconded by Councilman
Johnson. Roll call vote; Councilmembers Romero, yes; Johnson, yes; Mayor Ireland,
yes. Motion carried.
Councilman Romero moved to adjourn at 7:35 p.m.; seconded by Councilman Johnson.
All in favor, motion carried.