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AGENDA
OVERLAY SUBCOMMITTEE
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May 30, 1995
Regular Meeting
2nd Floor Meetinq Room, City Hall
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4:00 I. Roll Call
II. Comm ents (Committee members, Staff and public)
III . New Business
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MEMORANDUM
TO: Overlay Zone District Sub-Committee
FROM: Kim Johnson, Planner
RE: 616 W. Hopkins Special Review
DATE: May 30, 1995
SUMMARY: This project is located in the Shadow Mountain
neighborhood, therefore both the general guidelines (Chapter 1 of
the "Neighborhood Character Guidelines") and the specific
guidelines for Shadow Mountain (Chapter5) will be applied. The
applicant requests approval for demolition and reconstruction of
a single family residence with an attached accessory dwelling unit.
The allowable FAR for this 6,000 sq. ft. lot is 3,240 sq. ft. The
proposed FAR is 3,396 sq. ft., which represents the maximum plus
an additional 156 s.f. "bonus" for an accessory dwelling unit. The
ADU will be processed as a conditional use review by the Planning
and Zoning Commission.
The special review process is mandatory. Because of the lot size,
compliance with any Committee findings is also mandatory.
APPLICANT: Mr. and Mrs. Robert Hirschfield, represented by David
Brown
LOCATION: 616 W. Hopkins Ave. (Lots O and P, Block 25, Townsite
of Aspen)
STAFF COMMENTS: Please refer to the application for the complete
representation of the proposal. Planning staff finds that the
proposed residence is in substantial compliance with the general
and specific neighborhood guidelines.
The existing residence will be demolished except for the fireplace
and a small portion of the west side of the building which
encroaches into the side yard setback. The mature vegetation on
the site provides a substantial amount of screening towards the
street. The new attached garage is accessed from the alley.
The following guidelines apply to this proposal:
1) Architectural features that enhance the pedestrian experience
are encouraged.
Response: In its current design this house has many rectangular
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shapes joined by varying roof gables which really break up the
mass. The entry porch is well scaled to the structure and to the
~'~ street.
2) Use of building forms that are similar to those seen
traditionally in Aspen.
The proposed roof pitches and building forms are compatible with
the neighborhood.
3) Use of natural, indigenous building materials.
The use of stone and wood for siding and wall shingles is different
from the existing building, but are compatible with materials
commonly used in the neighborhood and rest of Aspen.
4) Minimize visual impact of garages.
The new garage will access from the alley and is partially covered
by a second floor deck. Parking is provided in the garage and
apron
5) Yard Areas
The proposed additions maintain all of the current yard areas and
trees along the frontage, which are important on this site.
6) Building Orientation
The entry faces the street, but the southeast corner is oblique to
the street at ground and second levels, and the southwest corner
is oblique to the street on the second floor. This design does not
satisfy the requitement to "reflect the platted grid where it
exists, by orienting building walls such that they reinforce the
perception of the neighborhood grid." The architect should revise
the first floor at the southeast corner for a more rectangular
footprint, reflecting the grid pattern.
RECOMMENDATION: Staff recommends that the Committee approve the
request to exceed 85% of the allowed FAR at 616 W. Hopkins Street
with one condition:
i) The applicant shall redesign the southeast corner of the first
floor for a more rectangular footprint at the street frontage.
Additional Comments:
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APPLICANT:
ADDRESS:
LEGAL DESCRIPTION:
ZONE DISTRICT:
LOT SIZE (SQUARE FEET):
EXISTING FAR:
ALLOWABLE FAR:
PROPOSED FAR:
EXISTING NET LEASABLE (COMMERCIAL):
PROPOSED NET LEASABLE (COMMERCIAL):
EXISTING % OF SITE COVERAGE:
PROPOSED % OF SITE COVERAGE:
EXISTING % OF OPEN SPACE (COMMERCIAL):
PROPOSED % OF OPEN SPACE (COMMERCIAL):
EXISTING MAXIMUM HEIGHT:
PROPOSED MAXIMUM HEIGHT:
PROPOSED % OF DEMOLITION:
EXISTING NUMBER OF BEDROOMS:
PROPOSED NUMBER OF BEDROOMS:
EXISTING ON-SITE PARKING SPACES:
ON-SITE PARKING SPACES REQUIRED:
SETBACKS:
EXISTING:
Front:
Rear:
Side:
Combined Front/Rear:
Mr. and Mrs. Robert Hirschfield
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Principal Bldg: ~~''0^°'°a ~°^^~sorv~g:
Principal Bldg: +/ 24' /Accessory B~1 g:
ALLOWABLE:
13.25, Front:
±7' Rear:
12' Side:
20'25' +/- Combined Front/Rear:
EXISTING NONCONFORMITIES/
PROPOSED:
10, Front: 11 S'
10, Rear: 18.5'
15, Side: 15'
30,_ Combined Front/Rear: 30'
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VARIATION REQUESTED (eligible for Landmarks Only: character compatibility finding must be made by HPC):
FAR:
SETBACKS: Front:
Rear:
side:
Combined Front/Rear:
Minimum Distance Between Buildings:
Parking Spaces:
Open Space (commercial): _
Height (Cottage Infill Only): _
Site Coverage (Cottage Infill Only): _
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MEMORANDUM
TO: Overlay Zone District Sub-Committee
FROM: Leslie Lamont, Deputy Director
Amy Amidon, Historic Preservation Officer
RE: 61U West Francis FAR Overlay Review
DATE: May 30, 1995
SUMMARY: This review is based on the General Guidelines found in
the recently adopted Neighborhood Character Guidelines and the
specific guidelines for the West End Neighborhood.. Special Review
and compliance with the review is mandatory because the parcel is
4500 square feet.
Planning staff believes that this project substantially complies
with the General Guidelines and the guidelines for the West End.
APPLICANTS: Dr. Robert Hirschfield represented by Dave Panico
LOCATION: 610 West Francis
ZONING: R-6
STAFF COMMENTS: Please refer to the application for a complete
representation of the proposal. Planning Staff finds that the
project is substantially in compliance with the Neighborhood
Character Guidelines. The steep roof pitches, presence of porches
and other one story elements and placement of the second story
within the roof mass help the structure to appear in scale with the
surrounding neighborhood.
There are many smaller historic structures in the area of this lot,
but none on this blockface or on the opposite blockface.
RECOMMENDATION: Staff recommends approval of the development at
610 W. Francis Street as proposed.
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EXISi1NG FAA:
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PRCPCSEO FAR:
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PRCPCSEO NE L 4SABLE (commerce:
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PRCPCSE7 %CF S(iE COVE9ACE:
EXISTING Y.OFCPEV SPACE (Cammerdaq:
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PRCFdSE~i NUMEER CF EEIRCOMS:
EXISTING ONSiTE PARKING SPACES:
ONSITE PARKING SPACES RECUIRED:
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FAR: ~~~ D"isTance Between Ba7dng5:
SETBACKS: Front: P~n9 Spaces:
Rear. Open Space (Cammerdal):
Side: Heigh (Catlage Infill Only):
Ccmbined FRIRr: Site Coverage (Cottage Infill Only):
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MS KIM JOHNSON
130 S. GALENA ST.
ASPEN, CO.
DEAR KIM,
AS THE REPRESENTATIVE OF MR. & MRS ROBERT HIRSCHFIELD, I
AM SUBMITTING THIS APPLICATION FOR THE F.A.R. OVERLAY REVIEW
FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 601 W. FRANCIS ST.
THE HIRSCHFIELDS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE RENOVATIONS AND ADDITIONS
TO AN EXISTING RESIDENCE PRESENTLY,COMPRISED OF 1974 SQ. FT
IN 2 STORIES ABOVE GRADE AND A 600 SQ. FT. BASEMENT. THE
RESIDENCE IS LOCATED IN THE WEST END NEIGHBORHOOD.
AS TO THIS PROJECT'S COMPLIANCE WITH THE GENERAL GUIDELINES,
I WILL ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS THEM POINT BY POINT.
MASS & SCALE
THE PROJECT AS IT IS PROPOSED, WILL (RELATIVE TO IT'S
IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS) BE PERCEIVED AS RATHER SMALL. THE
RESIDENCE IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST WILL TOWER OVER THIS
PROJECT. THE HOUSES TO THE SOUTH AND DIAGONALLY ACROSS THE
CORNER OF FIFTH AND FRANCIS ARE BOTH QUITE LARGE COMPARED TO
THIS RESIDENCE. DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET TO THE EAST IS AN
OLDER, SMALLER HOUSE PROBABLY BUILT IN THE LATE 1800'S OR
EARLY 1900'S. ACROSS THE STREET TO THE NORTH IS A 1 STORY
PANABODE STRUCTURE TYPICALLY BUILT IN THE 1950'S. BECAUSE IT
IS SURROUNDED BY THESE OPPOSITES IN SIZE, THIS PROJECT WILL
FIT PERFECTLY AS A MEDIAN STRUCTURE.
THE PROPOSED RESIDENCE WILL BE PERCEIVED AS A ONE STORY
STRUCTURE WITH A DORMER ROOF TO TRAFFIC ON 5TH STREET. THE
ROOF VOLUME RISES TO THE WEST SO AS TO HIDE THE LARGER HOUSE
TO THE WEST.
THE MASSING ELEMENTS OF THIS HOUSE ARE IN KEEPING WITH THOSE
SEEN TRADITIONALLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WITH ONLY THE
EXISTING NORTH AND THE PROPOSED WEST WALLS BEING LONGER THAN
20 FT.
THE WINDOWS AND DOORS ON ALL ELEVATIONS, EXCEPT THE SOUTH,
WILL BE OF TRADITIONAL SCALE. THE WINDOWS FACING THE ALLEY
WILL BE TALL ANp WIDE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF VIEWS AND SOLAR
GAIN POTENTIAL.
THE STREET ELEVATION WILL BE TRADITIONAL IN NATURE WITH A
SLIGHTLY RAISED PORCH WRAPPING THE SOUTH EASTERN END OF THE
HOUSE. THE FASCIA AND WINDOW HEAD HEIGHT ARE IN KEEPING WITH
THOSE FOUND ELSEWHERE IN THE WEST END.
THE ENTRANCE WILL BE OF A TRADITIONAL SCALE.
BUILDING FORM
THE BASIC FORM OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT WILL BE RECTANGULAR
WITH A DORMER ELEMENT SKEWED AT 45 TO THE MAIN STRUCTURE. A
ROUNDED 'BOW' ELEMENT ADDS VISUAL INTEREST TO THE FIRST FLOOR
PORCH AREA, BUT THE ROOF FORM IS STILL RECTANGULAR.
THE ROOF FORMS ARE ALL GABLE AND OF A PITCH THAT IS
TRADITIONAL TO THE WEST END. THE PORCH PROVIDES THE DEEP OVER
HANGS DESIRED BY YHE GUIDELINES.
SITE DESIGN
THE MAIN ENTRANCE ADDRESSES FIFTH STREET AND IS LOCATED IN
THE LONGEST AND MOST PROMINENT FACADE OF THE STRUCTURE.
THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, THAT WILL BE RETAINED, SITS CLOSE TO
THE NORTHERN SET BACK. THE RESIDENCE TO THE WEST IS SITUATED
SIMILARLY. THIS SAME HOUSE SITS CLOSE TO OR ON IT'S SETBACK
TO THE SOUTH. THEREFORE THE CONCEPT OF RESPECTING THE
EXISTING SETBACKS SHOULD BE MOOT.
THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE IS ORIENTED SO THAT IT WILL REINFORCE
THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD GRID. THE ENTRANCE WILL BE AT OR
SLIGHTLY ABOVE STREET LEVEL.
THE PROPOSED ADDITION WILL BLOCK EAST LIGHT FROM THE FIRST
FLOOR OF THE ADJACENT RESIDENCE TO THE WEST. THERE ARE TWO
SMALL WINDOWS ON THAT FACADE PRESENTLY BLOCKED BY FENCES AND
TREES.
BUILDING MATERIALS
THE USE OF CLAPBOARD SIDING WILL HELP BRING ANY PERCIEVED
HEIGHT PROBLEMS DOWN. THE USE OF A STONE BASE AND 'WATER
TABLE' BANDING GIVES A TRADITIONAL SCALE TO THE HOUSE AND
SPECIFICALLY THE PORCH.
THE ROOF WILL BE WOOD SHINGLES STAINED BLACK OR COMPOSITION
SHINGLES. METAL ROOFING MAY BE USED ON THE PORCH.
ARCHITECTUAL FEATURES
WINDOWS WILL BE A COMBINATION OF TRADITIONAL DOUBLE HUNGS IN
COMBINATION WITH FIXED GLAZING AND WILL BE OF PEDESTRIAN
SCALE.
THE PORCH COLUMN WILL HAVE A NON TRADITIONAL FLAVOR TO BREAK
FROM TRADITIONAL ARCHITECTURE. THE MAIN ENTRANCE WILL BE
CLEARLY DEFINED. SKYLIGHTS WILL BE LOCATED IN AREAS THAT CAN
NOT BE SEEN FROM THE STREET.
GARAGES
THE GARAGE IS TO BE LOCATED AT THE REAR OF THE HOUSE AND IS
TO BE ACCESSED FROM THE ALLEY. THE DRIVEWAY SLOPE WILL MEET
THE MUNICIPAL CODE.
PARKING AND DRIVEWAYS
(SEE ABOVE)
PARKING WILL BE ALONG ALLEY. (SEE SITE PLAN)
SERVICE AREAS
SERVICE AREAS WILL BE LOCATED ON THE ALLEY (SEE SITE PLAN)
IMPACT ON HISTORIC STRUCTURES
THE EXISTING RESIDENCE IS NOT A HISTORIC STRUCTURE.
DESIGN GOALS FOR THE WEST END NEIGHBORHOOD
DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE RESIDENCE IS LOCATED ON A 4500 SQ.
FT. LOT AND THEREFORE CAN BE COMPRISED OF ONLY 2820 SQ. FT.
OF F.A.R., THE PROPOSED RESIDENCE ATTAINS GOAL ONE BY
PRESERVING THE SCALE OF TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
STRUCTURES.
THE ENTRY FACADE ADDRESSES THE STREET AND IT'S MOST PROMINENT
FEATURE IS A LONG PORCH WITH A PEDESTRIAN SCALE. THE5E
ELEMENTS HELP ATTAIN GOAL TWO.
THE DESIGN INCORPORATES BOTH PORCHES, DORMERS AND VERTICALLY
PROPORTIONED WINDOWS AND THEREFORE ATTAINS GOAL THREE BY
PROMOTING THE DESIRED VISUAL INTEGRATION.
DUE TO THE SMALL SIZE OF THE LOT AND THE NEED TO INTERGRATE
INTO THE DESIGN AN EXISTING STRUCTURE, IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT
TO INCORPORATE THE DESIRED ELEMENTS OF GOAL FOUR.
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TO: Overlay Zone District Sub-ICommittee /
FROM: Kim Johnson, Planner `~/ ~~~( ~~
RE: Allen Residence Special Review /
DATE: May 30, 1995
SUMMARY: This project is outside of the identified neighborhoods
in the Design Guidelines, so the review will be limited to the
general guidelines (Chapter 1). The applicant requests approval
for a new residence. The proposed FAR for this 6,691 sq. ft.
AH zoned lot is 2,839 sq. ft. or 97% of the maximum allowed FAR.
Compliance with the Committee's findings is mandatory.
The Planning Office recommends tabling of the review so that the
entry can be lowered to be closer to street level.
APPLICANT: Doug Allen, represented by Stan Mathis
LOCATION: Lot 4 LaCet Subdivision (F.K.A. East Cooper Affordable
Housing Subdivision)
STAFF COMMENTS: Please refer to the application for the complete
representation of the proposal. Planning staff finds that this
project does not meet the general guideline specific to street
level entries. We recognize that the driveway and garage solutions
are problematic given the lot size, slope, and configuration of the
lot and irrigation ditch. One condition is recommended for
approval.
STAFF EVALUATION: The proposed home is a three level structure
with the garage facing the private road (Barb's Way). The entry
to the home is on the top floor, accessed by two flights of covered
exterior stairs. According to the application, the height to the
tallest ridge will be 30 feet.
Mass and Scale
Guideline #2. New buildings should appear to be similar in scale
to those in the established neighborhood, or to the scale that is
desired for the neighborhood.
Response: The LaCet Subdivision will contain homes in the 2,500
s.f. range. Surrounding properties include multi-family
structures, lodges and single family units. The proposed structure
is set into the hillside. Portions of the lowest level are exposed
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Aspen, Colorado 81611
May 8, 1995
Neighborhood Character
Design Committee
City of Aspen
130 South Galena Street
Aspen, Colorado 81611
Re: Allen Residence--Lot 4, East Cooper Affordable Housing Subdivision
Dear Committee Members:
The above-referenced lot is in a newly created subdivision scheduled to have mix of
4,000-5,000 square foot single family residences and multi-family employee housing units. The
subdivision is located between Highway 82 and Riverside Subdivision and between the
Crestahaus Lodge and two story apartments. The character of the neighborhood is varied with
no particular design style or material usage. The lot is small with the Riverside Irrigation Ditch
running on two sides of the lot and the centerline of the Lacet Court as one of the property
boundaries. The site slopes to the Northeast and has heavy vegetation along the Southwest side
of the lot. Thank you.
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ASPEN NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER
DESIGN COMMITTEE
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CITY OF ASPEN
130 SOUTH GALENA STREET
ASPEN, COLORADO 81611
STAN
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ATTN: KIM JOHNSON
RE: DOUG ALLEN: LOT 4 EAST COOPER AFFORDABLE HOUSING
COMMITTEE MEMBERS;
THE FOLLDWING IS A DESCRIPITION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER IN
WHICH THE PROPOSED RESIDENCE IS TO BE LOCATED.
THERE ARE A VARIETY OF USES IN THIS PART OF ASPEN. THEY RANGE FROM
SMALL MOTELS {CRESTAHAUS}; LARGE HOMES AT THE ASPEN CLUB SUB-
DI~rISION; THE ASPEN ATHLETIC CLUB; A THREE STOREY EMPLOYEE HOUSING
COMPLE;{; AND A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION THAT DEFIES ANY
DESCRIPTION OF CONTINUITY.
THE DIVERSE DE'~IELOPMENT OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD IMPLIES
THE PROPOSED RESIDENCE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORING USES,
ST'~LE, SCALE AND MATERIALS-
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THE PROPOSED SITE IS BORDERED ON THE N.E. BY A 3 STOREY EMPLOYEE
HOUSING COMPLEX; ON THE SOUTH BY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES OF
4,000 S.F., ON THE NORTH BY AN OPEN SPACE AREA BORDERED BY
APARTMENTS AND ON THE WEST BY MEDIUM DENSE ASPENS AND A 1 112
STOREY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND BARN ON THE WEST. THE SITE IS
HIDDEN FROM HIGHWAY 82 BY THE EMPLOYEE HOUSING PROJECT. IT IS
ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO RELATE THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE TO ANY
EXISTING RESIDENCE IN THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE RIVERSIDE
ADDITION. THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE IS 3 STOREYS WITH THE ENTIRE
FLOOR AREA LOCATED WITHIN ONE STRUCTURE. THE SIZE OF THE BUILD-
ING ENVELOPE DOES NOT ALLOW SECONDARY STRUCTURES A5 SUGGESTED
OPENINGS IN THE EXTERIOR WALLS OF THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE ARE 2
TO 3 TIMES TALLER THAN WIDE. THE NUMBER AND SIZE OF WINDOWS DO
NOT OVER POWER THE EXTERIOR WALL SURFACE OF THE PROPOSED
STRUCTURE.
3} THIS GUIDELINE IS DIFFICULT AND PERHAPS INAPPROPIATE FOR THIS
SITE WITH AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE CONFIGURATION OF THE LOT IE.
IS NOT RECTANGULAR AND NOT A STANDARD ASPEN TOWNSHIP LOT
{BASED ON 30', 45', OR 60' WIDE X 100' DEEP}.
4} THE ELEVATIONS INDICATE NO GRAND ENTRY
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STRUCTURE.
SITE DESIGN
THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE IS ORIENTED TO THE STREET.
7} THE BUILDING ENTRY IS ON THE UPPER FLOOR. THERE IS A MIX OF
RESIDENCES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HA`dE ENTRANCES EITHER AT
GRADE OR 1 STOREY ABOVE GRADE.
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Douglas P. Alla-
223 Narth Mill Stmt, Suite 210
Aspen, Colorado 81611
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The An:hitectural Control Comatittee has approved the plans for your homc to be
coastruated oa Lot 4. A oopp of these plans is attached to this kttcr end lttitlaled for
idendflcation purposes.
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Meeting was called to order by chairman Jake Vickery with Bruce
Kerr, Roger Moyer and Steve Buettow present. Excused were
Donnelley Erdman and Robert Blaich.
LOT 4 EAST COOPER AFFORDABLE HOUSING SUB
Amy: While staff recognizes that there are constraints on this
lot due to topography and it is a non-conforming lot for the zone
district. The concern with the project is that the entrance to
the house does not come in at grade or the first floor level, a
staircase runs up the side of the house and you enter at the
second or third level. There is a lot of exposure of below grade
space. With resolution of these issue we would recommend approval
but we ask for restudy.
Stan Mathis, architect: The site is small and for a resident
occupied unit. When we started we were under the 85a rule for
your review but when we take out the 20 foot right-of-way that
goes from the center line of this property in and we have deduct
that from purposes of density calculation then that throws us just
into your review process. I have brought a full set of drawings.
Since the envelope is so small we have no other place to park
cars other than under the house so therefore we have the two car
garage and a storage area on the lowest level and the only way we
can access that is off Barb's Way. The garage doors are recessed
back from the face of the building. There is a family entry at
the lowest level. We chose to put the bedrooms above the garage
and it is a three bedroom house. The overall dimensions are 44 by
40 feet to the outside of the stairs. That causes us to put the
living room, dining room space on the upper floor causing a three
story structure. I thought the stair was better on the outside
to cut up that massive wall. There are a potpourri of housing
styles in the neighborhood that have all different kind of
materials. Barb's Way is a 12 to 13% grade.
Stan: I have presented a letter from the homeowners architectural
committee which gives approval of the plans.
COMMITTEE MEMBER QUESTIONS
Steve: Do you have a larger plan that shows the other lots in
this subdivision or cul-de-sac.
Stan: At the time we submitted that was not a requirement and I
am sorry I don't.
Steve: Along side the ditch did you consider putting the driveway
and come in at that level. It seems natural to me.
Stan: The riverside ditch there is an easement. The envelope
goes toward town in a triangle. In order to get a driveway that
started at the riverside ditch easement go 12 feet and have enough
room to pull a car in it has to be at least 24 feet to swing in
and out we are pushed so far down into lot four towards town that
the triangular area is not usable. The riverside ditch is five
feet on the property and the building envelope is another five
feet.
Stan: We have a 30 foot front yard setback that is imposed by the
PUD.
COMMITTEE MEMBER COMMENTS
Bruce: Who is going to live in the house?
Doug Allen: I am.
Bruce: Is the house on cemetery lane sold as I thought you were
moving in there.
Steve: When I looked at the site and plans having the garage down
below makes your overall house plan and form awkward and it is not
resolved very well in relationship to the site and neighborhood.
having the driveway up above allows you to incorporate the sun and
do a better design in relationship to the slope.
Stan: We are still going to have a three story aspect on the
downhill side of the house whether there is a garage there or not
because we will have to put some part of the house down there. In
my view putting a garage at a lower elevation did a couple of
things for us one it kept the cars from the neighbors view and I
feel we can landscape the roadcut far better here than if it were
above.
Doug Allen, owner: The garage is in the most hidden place now.
Roger: Since the neighborhood committee approved and since it is
only 2600 sgft. and you almost have to search out this house I
concur with staff that it basically works. I agree with Steve
that there are much better approaches to this instead of putting
the garage on the street. They are really here because of an
easement I would let it go the way it is. I would also prefer to
see the entry on the second floor but support Stan's method that
the steps do break up the wall. That entire area was lost before
it came to us. You have the rock facing on the ground and there
is a stucco wall down to it and I would recommend that maybe the
whole bottom level be rock. You break up that linear verticality
and also from a maintenance standpoint you would have a lot less
hassle than using stucco. It would soften it.
Doug Allen: It is only a question of money. I would prefer to
have stone there also.
Bruce: What is the square footage of the house on cemetery lane?
Doug: 4400 plus garage including the ADU. It has three bedrooms
not including the ADU. There are 3 1/2 baths. It is a free
market.
it was a free market and not for a local.
Roger: We have learned in HPC that everyone that comes in can
Jake: I do not have a problem with the west and south elevations
as they are straight forward. I do have a problem with the east
and north. I don't have much of a problem with the
Bruce: We approved a good size house at P&Z knowing full well
that it was free market and not for a local.
Jake: It is odd putting a deck up there with the stairway. I
agree with staffs recommendation.
Roger: This has the feel of a swiss chalet and if it were the
deck would extend all the way out and also out over the stairway.
What that would do is change the impression from the street and
would bring it down a little. Secondly you might achieve a little
different feel rather than having the chopped off overhang.
Stan: On the east elevation we do extend it over the walkway.
Doug Allen: It is intended to be a chalet and with the height
limit we have you can't keep extending the eave because it gets
too low. We put a roof over the stairs to protect it from snow.
Stan: The stair does not hang out from the house.
Roger: There is a wall that projects out and the stair goes onto
that.
Stan: If you have enough floor area you can come in with an entry
on the entry level and go upstairs.
Doug Allen: Chalets have exterior stairs that comes upstairs
because the living area up stairs and the bedrooms downstairs.
Stan: In the west end all the entries are at street level and
over here there are different entries some one story down and some
one story up.
Jake: It is our job to make a finding based on the guidelines.
Roger: The stairway as drawn is an open stairway wit a handrail.
Suppose the stairway were enclosed the lower portion and it was a
little less tall.
Amy: I do not know what that does to the FAR.
Stan: We have a right-of-way that is being taken out of our lot
that puts us above the 85%. It is a drive to go up to the cul-de-
sac.
Jake: I don't have a problem with the style of architecture.
Jake: The railing is solid and that makes it look heavy.
Stan: I would be willing to make that an open hand rail.
Roger: The stucco handrail would be less massive if it were open.
Steve: If you are having the driveway down here and the public
parking is in front of the garage on the driveway and your main
entry to the house is a full story above that how are you going to
get the people who park their car down below up to the house.
Stan: We will have to have some kind of landscapped stairway.
Doug: They will walk out on the street and go up. I do not want
a landscaped stairway.
Steve: I would have to walk three flights of stairs to get to the
living room.
MOTION: Jake moved to table the request to exceed the 85°s
allowable FAR at Lot 4 Lacet Subdivision with the direction to
restudy the entry so that it is closer to the street level and
address other concerns about how one would enter the building and
how one gets to the building having parked in the parking area
from the garage. Further the use of materials to break down the
vertical as there is a lot of stucco surface on all three layers
and I would like to see a material study break down that mass.
Regarding the handrail it needs restudied and more transparent,
possibly the use of wood with openings. We have meetings on the
7th and 27th of June; second by Steve. Motion fails 2 -2.
DISCUSSION
Jake: I would like the entry defined even though it is an
external entry, punched out a little so that it has presence.
Stan: More expression on the front and we could agree with all
three conditions.
Steve: Someone visiting onsite should not have to walk out on the
street so there should be a landscaped stone stairway to the
entry.
Bruce: I feel they have done the best they could dealing with the
site.
MOTION: Roger moved to approve the application for special review
of Lot 4 Lacet Sub. with the condition that the lower level, north
and east side have rock around to break up the mass and that the
second story railing would be wood or a different material to make
it softer and lighter and that there would be spaces involved.
The wood lentils and ceils as drawn are wood to show the
definition between the stucco. The entry to the second floor be
more defined, more in scale with the other openies of the house
and show that it is an entry. A landscaped path be installed from
the garage platform to the entry; second by Bruce. Motion carries
3 -1. Steve opposed.