HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.apz.20080520ASPEN PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION MEETING -MINUTES
MAY 20, 2008
COMMENTS ............................................................................................................ 2
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404 PARK AVENUE/4I4 PARK CIRCLE ASPENWALK CONCEPTUAL PUD2
CODE AMENDMENT LANDING TRANSFERABLE DEVELOPMENT
RIGHTS ON LANDMARKS ................................................................................... 9
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ASPEN PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION MEETING -MINUTES
MAY 20, 2008
LJ Erspamer opened the regular meeting at 4:30 pm in the Sister Cities Meeting
Room. Commissioners Jim DeFrancia, Dina Bloom, Michael Wampler, Stan
Gibbs, Cliff Weiss and LJ Erspamer were present. Brian Speck was absent. Staff
in attendance were Chris Bendon, Travis Goggins, Jennifer Phelan, Community
Development; Jackie Lothian, Deputy City Clerk; Jim True, Special Counsel.
COMMENTS
LJ Erspamer noted that he and Stan would be gone for the next meeting, June 3`a
Chris Bendon provided a brief update on the Lift One Master Plan; the group of 28
members met once a week broken up into 4 groups. Bendon said that the mission
and goals will be established through goal buckets; history, accessibility, vitality
and sustainability blend together and help the thought process along with the
dynamic of resort and community. Bendon said the dynamic of the group was
good.
Motion: Jim DeFrancia moved to approve the minutes from May 6`~ with the
corrections as stated by Stan Gibbs; seconded by Stan Gibbs. All in favor,
APPROVED.
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING:
404 PARK AVENUE/414 PARK CIRCLE ASPENWALK CONCEPTUAL
PUD
LJ Erspamer opened the continued public hearing 404 Park Avenue/414 Park
Circle, Aspenwalk. Jennifer Phelan said that this was a conceptual PUD to
demolish both existing buildings on the property on 404 Park Avenue and 414 Park
Circle that has an APCHA owned building on it.
Phelan utilized sketch-up to illustrate the project. Phelan noted. there was one less
unit in the proposal; there were 24 affordable housing units being proposed rather
than 25; there were 14 free-market units being proposed. The garage was modified
and rotated further north with 25 affordable housing spaces and 28 for the 14 free
market units. The applicant worked on lowering the height of the building and the
height was compliant at 32 feet, which was achievable by the relocation of the
parking garage and lowering the building into the ground a bit. Phelan said the
structure was set back from the shared property line from the Tailings
Condominium to the north; above the garage access was a proposed deck for the
use of the residents of the affordable housing units. The location of the elevator
shafts were pulled back and the overall floor area proposed has been reduced just
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under 43,000 square feet of floor area, the initial proposal had just over 51,000
square feet. Phelan said that this project had great benefit with the Housing
Authority getting additional inventory for free. Phelan said the massing of this
project was still too big and needs to be broken up more and the floor area is too
big for the site and the neighborhood.
Michael Wampler asked where the 7,000 square feet went. Jennifer Phelan replied
the sinking of the building reduced some of the exposed wall area on the first floor
so that has reduced some of the floor area calculation.
Cliff Weiss asked if the one big box were two boxes could they still have
underground parking under the two buildings. Phelan responded the applicant
talked about the elimination of lot lines to be able to do this project.
Dina Bloom asked to go over the parking issue. Phelan answered the parking
requirement for this part of town was either one parking space per bedroom or
maximum of two spaces per unit; there was a provision that when a property got
redeveloped the applicant can carry forward a deficit in parking spaces. Phelan
said that they were not carrying over the deficit for the free market units with
regards to parking; they are carrying a deficit over for the 11 existing parking
spaces for the affordable housing units but you can't have a deficit for the new
units.
LJ Erspamer asked if P&Z had the authority to give a variance. Jennifer Phelan
replied that the units had to be 50% above grade. Stan Clauson responded that no
unit is more than 50% subgrade; that is permitted in the code so there was no
variance required.
Stan Clauson said that there was safe pedestrian circulation by providing
infrastructure that currently did not exist; this project will make a leap forward in
solving the current parking deficit that's on the property. Clauson said that
combing the properties allows for an efficient use of the properties. Clauson stated
the Smuggler Mountain Apartments which is also referred to as 414 Park Circle
contains 11 rental units owned by the Aspen/Pitkin Housing Authority and they do
not have the funding source for some immediately necessary repairs; these 11
rental units have 10 on site parking spaces, which generate a parking deficit.
Clauson said that 404 Park Avenue, which is privately rented right now as free
market units but represents 3 buildings with a variety of sizes of units with 5 on
site parking spaces; these 3 buildings were also in need of repair. Clauson said that
the current on site parking had a deficit of 21 spaces for the free market and
affordable housing; the land use code says that you can carry forward a deficit and
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the proposal generates a deficit of 10 spaces. Clauson stated the proposed
underground parking garage would provide 25 spaces for the 24 affordable housing
units and 28 garage parking spaces for the free market units, which is a tremendous
improvement in parking.
Clauson stated the bulk and massing for this project was of concern with the staff
and Cliff asked if there could be two buildings with a garage underneath them both
and Clauson stated there could be two buildings but it will not work for this
project. Clauson stated this was the RMF zone district, the most dense zone
district for housing; there were different formulas for the 100% replacement
program for the free market and the affordable housing. Clauson said the intention
is that this redevelopment will be 100% replacement and there is no room for two
separate buildings on the site; they have provided for a substantial amount of green
space. Clauson said the floor area ratio is at 1.42 to 1 and the square footage is at
46,723.
Clauson said they will not need a front setback variance because it would be an
even exchange in property square footage with the City of Aspen with a quit claim
deed. Clauson said the only variance needed would be in the floor area ratio but
allowed in this zone district.
Clauson said the garage entrance was moved up farther on Park Circle and utilized
sketch up to show the project. Ken O'Bryan, Architect for the project, stated that
in pulling back the building 26 feet back from the Tailings (36 feet off the property
line) and the building was dropped down 4 feet minimum. O'Bryan said if they
opened up the stairwells that would provide reliefs that could be open and would
create a negative space that would help to open up the building. Michael Wampler
asked about added expenses opening up the hallways to the outside elements.
O'Bryan responded that the hallways as planned now had insulation anyway for
acoustic reasons; he said that the trade-off would be that they would have to put
exterior siding on it.
Clauson proposed changes to the resolution on page 2 and 3; amend the square
footage to 46,725, the floor area ratio 1.42: l; the 3rd bullet 24 units and the 4"'
bullet added to the end of it , or as accomplished through a land swap with the
City of Aspen with respect to right-of--way. Clauson added to page 3 Section 4:
Affordable Housing a provision of affordable housing shall be such as to provide
100% replacement for the existing free market units and the existing affordable
housing units to be demolished.
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Phelan said the number of employees housed had to remain the same in the
affordable housing replacement program; the free market replacement was chosen
by the applicant to replace 100% of the number of units, 100% of the net leasable
space and 100% of the number of bedrooms.
Jim DeFrancia said there was a deficit of 10 spaces with the garage providing 53
spaces. Clauson stated that was correct. DeFrancia asked of the 11 existing
affordable housing units owned by APCHA would be replaced at no cost to the
government. Clauson replied that was correct. DeFrancia said the only variance
that they were seeking was the FAR. Clauson replied that was correct.
Weiss asked why with Ken's opening up of the stairways why they were seeking
46,725 square feet. Clauson responded that Ken's idea would be an improvement
in floor area but the specific nature of that improvement he can't represent at this
point.
Dina Bloom asked how the community deck came about. Clauson replied that it
was an outgrowth of the redesign of the garage entry that covered the drive.
Bloom asked for clarification on the subgrade issue for the affordable housing at
50%. Phelan responded the standard for the affordable housing was that 50% of
the finished floor area of a unit needs to be at or above finish or natural grade,
whichever is more restrictive. Phelan said this was a review at final with the
growth management review.
Weiss asked if the affordable housing was 50% of the square footage has to be
above ground. Phelan responded that it was the net livable area; the finished floor.
Phelan said this code amendment came about because affordable housing could be
put subgrade; the council did not feel that units below grade were very livable so
that's where the 50% above grade came from. Clauson stated that he's put in 2
projects since this code amendment and one was at garden level; another one had
'h of the unit above grade and '/2 of the unit below grade. Clauson said that was
what was happening here at garden level. Stan Gibbs asked if half of the floor
could not be below grade and the other half had to be above the natural grade; that
doesn't mean walls half above grade don't mean finished floor. Gibbs said the
revised proposal goes from 51,000 down to 46,000; just not as far as what P&Z
wanted. Gibbs asked the total floor area of the free market units was and the
affordable housing was. Clauson replied the free market total is 33,239 and the
affordable housing total is 16,127. Phelan stated that was the calculation of net
livable area; inhabitable living spaces that excludes garages.
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Erspamer asked if they met all of the setbacks. Kevin O'Bryan, architect, replied
that they did.
Jim True stated that the code was clear "each unit provided shall be designed such
the finished floor level of fifty percent or more of the unit's net livable area is at or
above natural or finished grade, whichever is higher". Jennifer Phelan said the
intent was to require fifty percent of a unit's net livable area be at or above grade.
Phelan said if it were a two story apartment or unit you could do one floor above
grade and one floor below.
Tom McCabe said as a partner in the project specific to this discussion (finished
floor grade) he was on Council when this change was made; he said the idea was
for half of the unit to be above grade not half of the floor and you can mix and
match that so that we talked in terms of volume but they said area, which gets at
the same thing. McCabe said so if half of your unit was above grade and half was
below grade that was what they were looking for; some sunlight and it's more like
a garden apartment concept, but they did not get that specific. Weiss asked if all of
the rooms had light would that satisfy your original intent. McCabe replied that
was right.
Public Comments:
1. Jennifer Phelan entered into the record a letter from Shael Johnson and Mike
McCollum; they were concerned for the parking provided and did not feel that it
was adequate.
2. Jay Maytin lived at the Tailings; he showed a rendition from Nina
Merzbach, which was done prior to this latest rendition of this project. Maytin said
his wife does not agree with the mass and scale and he did not believe the mass and
scale was in the character of the neighborhood. Maytin said that a zero lot line
would be required between the two properties (the two lots) and there was a
required setback between the two lots, which would need a variance. Maytin said
that when a building gets sunk into the ground the FAR is reduced but the actual
livable square footage of the building is calculated in a different way because some
of the building is subgrade; he said the sinking helps out his personal situation.
Maytin pointed out that housing was important but it should not be the deciding
fact for this property. Maytin asked P&Z not to allow the FAR variance, the lot
line variance to protect the scale and mass of this property, honor the neighbors
that have spoken and follow the staff recommendations. Maytin said that this
APCHA property was a gold mine and was sure that there was a way to finance
renovation of that building.
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3. Mary Ellen Sheridan said that she was the property manager of 404 Park
Avenue and agreed that this building was an eyesore; she said that this was a
mixed character neighborhood.
4. Roger Moyer asked how many parking spaces were they requesting that
were not on site now. Phelan replied that the existing 14 free market units should
have 22 spaces and they have 5 according to what the design specs are so there is a
deficit of 17 right now. Phelan stated the redevelopment would actually require 26
spaces but they are proposing 28 so they were satisfying their requirement for the
free market. Phelan said the there was a deficit of 4 spaces currently for the
affordable housing. Moyer said that if you have so many bedrooms and so many
people in units that every person will have a car; there was not adequate parking in
the entire neighborhood. Moyer cited examples of neighbors having more than one
car.
5. Shael Johnson agreed with what Roger Moyer said about the parking.
Johnson said one of the things that she liked about the neighborhood was that the
streets were not to code and there weren't curbs and gutters because it adds some
of the charm.
6. Marsha Goshorn said that she was on the housing board and one of the
things that will change with this were the 2 current building that were there have so
many people crammed into those units and there will be actually fewer people on
site with the new development. Goshorn said there would be 24 new affordable
units that would not cost one dime of public subsidy. Goshom said that the new
development would actually clean up the neighborhood.
7. Mike McCollum asked where the overflow parking goes. McCollum agreed
with Roger Moyer about the huge problem with parking.
Stan Gibbs asked staff to respond to the parking issue; he asked if 39 units and 53
spaces are adequate according to the code. Jennifer Phelan replied the way that she
did the calculations was that they were short 5 parking spaces for the affordable
housing units. Phelan explained that an applicant was allowed to carry over a
shortfall of parking; currently there were 11 affordable housing units that would
require 14 spaces with 10 provided with a deficit of 4. Phelan said in the
redevelopment they are providing 25 spaces for 24 units. Jim DeFrancia asked as
presently configured how many parking spaces are there on site and off site.
Phelan responded currently there are 15 parking spaces. DeFrancia said if this
project were to advance there would be 53 spaces. DeFrancia asked how many
units exist today and how many will exist with the new project. Phelan replied
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there were 25 units existing and there were 38 proposed. Stan Clauson said that
clearly shows how much the situation is being corrected and addressed by the
provision of an entire floor of parking.
Clauson said that there were requesting a subdivision which essentially creates
unified property and there are no internal setbacks in a unified property.
Cliff Weiss said the free market units were roughly 2500 square feet and asked
who would buy these units. Clauson replied it was unclear from a market
standpoint. Weiss asked why the parking spaces were not reapportioned for the
affordable housing units because the free market units would probably not need as
many spaces for second home owners, which would satisfy a lot of the neighbors
concerns.
Gibbs asked if P&Z would be voting on a subdivision. Phelan answered the
subdivision would be part of the final PUD application; it would be a
recommendation from the planning commission to city council.
DeFrancia said that we have to accept change; he said the public benefit was the
affordable housing at no public cost. DeFrancia said that he was supportive of the
project.
Erspamer said all too often we don't listen to the neighborhoods; the setbacks were
met with the combining of the lots. Erspamer said that the size of the building was
too big.
MOTION.• Cliff Weiss moved to extend the meeting until 7:30, seconded by Jim
DeFrancia. All in favor, APPROVED.
Weiss stated that he has been in favor of this infill housing and private/public
projects. Weiss said that he can not oppose something like this and the applicant
has followed the suggestions of this commission. Weiss said there were probably
better ways to mitigate the parking, the mass and scale and since this was
conceptual he could live with this. Weiss said that if this satisfies what housing
put in place with no dark bedrooms then he will go with the project.
Dina Bloom said that the employee housing was great.
Stan Gibbs said that with this discussion of the 50% floor area it was not clear and
he would like to continue this hearing for that clarification on floor area. Gibbs
said that if that building has to be raised up or the units reconfigured to provide
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more above grade area then the FAR would change as well and he wanted to know
the affect of that number as well. Clauson stated that if it was necessary to have a
finished floor 50% above grade then they would just organize those units
vertically.
Jim True stated that he met with the City Attorney, John Worcester, and Stan
Clauson about the exchange that they talked about and the City Attorney was of
the opinion that as a vacation of aright-of--way it can't be done as an exchange, it
was really a different type of process. True said it was different than a land
exchange; it's a vacation process. Erspamer stated that the portion of the
resolution should be amended to state "it's a process to be formulated by an
agreement between the city attorney and the applicant."
MOTION: Jim DeFrancia moved to approve the conceptual Resolution #1,
Aspenwalk, with the changes as described by the applicant and a correction to the
affordable housing count, and a clarification to the process of vacation. Seconded
by Cliff Weiss; roll call vote: Wampler, yes; Bloom, yes; Gibbs, no; Weiss, yes;
DeFrancia, yes; Erspamer, no. APPROVED 4-2.
Discussion: Gibbs stated the applicant has been very responsive to P&Z and the
neighbors to reduce the mass and scale of the building toward the Tailings; he
agreed with Mr. DeFrancia about the parking that it will actually result in a parking
benefit overall with a parking enforcement issue. Gibbs said that he wanted to see
the affordable housing built but had a hard time with the current wording being
based on something that we don't really know. Erspamer stated that he went along
with the staff recommendations.
PUBLIC HEARING:
CODE AMENDMENT LANDING TRANSFERABLE DEVELOPMENT
RIGHTS ON LANDMARKS
LJ Erspamer opened the public hearing on TDRs. Jennifer Phelan presented the
request for the code amendment and stated as part of the larger moratorium code
amendment a year ago a TDR was allowed to be severed from a historic property
and landed elsewhere. Phelan said the existing program (up to this point) was that
you severed 250 square foot increments from a historic property and landed them
as 250 square feet of floor area on certain multifamily and mixed use projects
within the city. Phelan said to create additional landing sites and potential
opportunity towards this transferable development right program to work the code
changes allowed these units that were capped at certain sizes (for example a unit
could be only 2,000 square feet of net livable area) the purchase of a TDR allowed
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a TDR the addition of 500 square feet of net livable area. This landing was
allowed in the Commercial Core, Lodge Zone District, Neighborhood Commercial
and Commercial Lodge but not on a historic property.
Jim DeFrancia asked if a building like the Crystal Palace Building had 10,000
square feet and wanted to divide into four 2,500 square feet units that couldn't do
that without this code amendment. Phelan replied that was correct there was no
allowed increase in the actual floor area allowed for the site, the 10,000 square
feet, but it allows a unit to go from 2,000 to 2,500 square feet of net livable area.
Stan Gibbs said this was for multifamily and would not apply to a single family
historic building. Phelan responded that it was allowed for multifamily units.
Public Comments:
Jay Maytin said that he understands the TDR program much better now and asked
P&Z to amend this code because the TDR program was essential for historic
preservation in Aspen.
MOTION.• Jim DeFrancia moved to adopt Resolution #017, series 2008,
recommending that Council approve amendments to the Municipal Code related to
Transferable Development Rights, seconded by Mike Wampler. Roll call vote:
Weiss, yes; DeFrancia, yes; Wampler, yes; Bloom, yes; Gibbs, yes; Erspamer, yes.
APPROVED 6-0.
MOTION: Michael Wampler moved to adjourn the meeting at 7.•30 pm seconded
by Jim DeFrancia. All in favor, APPROVED 6-0.
ckie Lothian, Deputy City Clerk
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