HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.apz.20080805Aspen Plannin¢ & Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes -August 05, 2008
COMMENTS ............................................................................................................ 2
MINUTES ................................................................................................................. 2
DECLARATION OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST ............................................... 2
332 MAIN STREET, SUBDIVISION REVIEW ..................................................... 3
ASPEN VALLEY HOSPITAL FACILITIES MASTER PLAN, CONCEPTUAL
PUD ........................................................................................................................... 4
Aspen PlanninE & Zonine Commission MeetinE Minutes - August O5, 2008
LJ Erspamer opened the regular meeting of the Aspen Planning & Zoning
Commission in Sister Cities meeting room at 4:30 pm. Mike Wampler, Cliff
Weiss, Stan Gibbs, Jim DeFrancia, Brian Speck, Dina Bloom and LJ Erspamer
were present. Staff in attendance were Jim True, Special Counsel; Amy Guthrie,
Jennifer Phelan, Community Development; Jackie Lothian, Deputy City Clerk.
COMMENTS
Jennifer Phelan distributed the city agendas.
Toni Kronberg spoke about the Civic Master Plan and an update on the ZG Master
Plan.
Stan Gibbs asked about the floor area issue of above grade and garden level for the
Aspenwalk because he did not want this to come up again in the future. Jennifer
Phelan responded that one of the parameters in the affordable housing
requirements was that 50% of the finished floor be at or above grade. Phelan said
that Aspenwalk as it was designed is garden level and that will not count to meet
the 50% requirement so they will have to do some re-designing to meet that
requirement when they come back for final.
LJ Erspamer said that he would email wording for a resolution to the
commissioners and staff.
MINUTES
MOTION.' Stan Gibbs requested corrections to the minutes on page 3 "the rotary
door was or was not in the corner because some drawings indicated that it was"
and "the applicant stated that the double doors are the plan and not the rotary
door "; on page 7 strike ~e and replace with "office space ". Mike
Wampler moved to approve the minutes from July 15`h as corrected; seconded by
Brian Speck, all in favor, APPROVED.
DECLARATION OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST
LJ Erspamer stated that his wife works at Stewart Title and two people have signed
the document from 332 Main Street. Jim True said that would not have an impact
on LJ's authority to participate.
Stan Gibbs said that he lived 2 blocks from 332 Main Street but did not receive a
notice and thought his house was over 300 feet from the 332 Main property. Amy
Guthrie said that he was not on the list.
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PUBLIC HEARING:
332 MAIN STREET. SUBDIVISION REVIEW
LJ Erspamer opened the public hearing for 332 Main Street. Jim True reviewed
the public notice and was in order.
Amy Guthrie stated that 332 Main Street was an 1889 Queen Anne Victorian
house that was in the Main Street historic district. It currently has a one story
addition built in the 1960s that is proposed to be demolished and replaced with a
new addition and this has been through the Historic Preservation Commission for
review. Guthrie said the reason that this was coming before P&Z and Council was
the demolition of the one bedroom or studio apartment that was being replaced and
one more unit was being added and that meets the definition of subdivision.
Guthrie said that this was the creation of a new multifamily residential unit. This
application has been in the process for sometime and they are subject to residential
multifamily housing replacement as it existed in 2005, which is different than the
version on the books today. Because it was a land marked building they were
eligible for a growth management exemption to provide the new unit and that's
how they accumulate the rights to be able to develop the project. Guthrie said that
they were approved for a project approximately 1,000 square feet less than the
maximum; HPC did grant a rear yard setback variance in order to work within the
boundaries that were left when the house was preserved in place.
Guthrie said the staff finding was that it was in compliance with the subdivision
criteria.
Mike Wampler asked if this lot would ever be eligible for a lot split. Guthrie
replied no because it was only 4500 square feet and they would have to have at
least 6,000 square feet.
Cliff Weiss said that 2b stated no more than 1 free market residence is permitted
and asked if this gets over ruled because of historic designation. Guthrie replied no
that they were replacing an existing unit that was already accepted as part of the
development on the site; they were creating one new unit and are able to access
that growth management exemption and this will be the only time that they will be
able to get that exemption.
Stan Gibbs inquired if either or both units were going to be deed restricted.
Guthrie responded neither; the existing is not deed restricted but because they are
demolishing and replacing they do have to provide affordable housing mitigation
but the units on site will both be free market. The mitigation will be cash-in-lieu.
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No public comments.
An email from Christine Quinn was submitted with a concern about parking.
LJ Erspamer asked if any fences were encroaching. Guthrie said that parking will
come off of the alley and the curb cit will be removed.
Weiss asked if there were any variances from code. Guthrie said that HPC granted
a setback variance from the mixed use zone district on the east side reducing from
5 feet to 2 feet and the rear yard setback was waived. John Muir recalled a 3 foot
setback. Weiss asked if the house on the east side was setback at all from the lot
line.
Gibbs said that if housing continues to allow people to pay cash-in-lieu for housing
we will see a lot of housing disappear and will continue to whittle away housing
units; this application adheres to the code. Weiss said that there was not an
affordable housing unit on site. Phelan said that the code has changed to have the
cash-in-lieu allow for payment. DeFrancia agreed with Stan. Muir responded that
the unit has not been occupied since Alice Brien has owned the property and it had
been partly occupied for 5 years prior to that and it was in terrible shape.
MOTION: Jim DeFrancia moved to approve Resolution #28, series 2008
recommending City Council approve fhe subdivision at 332 West Main; seconded
by Brian Speck. Roll call vote: Bloom, yes; Gibbs, yes; Weiss, yes; Speck, yes;
DeFrancia, yes; Erspamer, yes; Wampler, yes; APPROVED 7-0.
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING (07/01/08; 07/15/08):
ASPEN VALLEY HOSPITAL FACILITIES MASTER PLAN
CONCEPTUAL PUD
LJ Erspamer opened the continued public hearing on Aspen Valley Hospital
Conceptual PUD. Jennifer Phelan noted this was the third hearing reviewing the
proposed master plan for the remodel and expansion of the hospital site. Phelan
said that the meeting will include site access and traffic analysis submitted in the
conceptual application along with parking and easement issues. Phelan said that at
the next meeting on August 19`h there would be a resolution drafted.
Phelan said that the site access to the property was currently through the main
access at Castle Creek and Doolittle Drive; the master plan proposes a secondary
service access, a looped service road, that will have an entry point at Whitcomb
Terrace and loop around the hospital to take some of the traffic from the main
access and split up some of the traffic generated by the hospital. Phelan said that
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Castle Creek Road would have to be raised if this is accessed at Whitcomb
Terrace. Phelan said that there were improvements for the main entry to maintain
the current level of service for Castle Creek and to maintain that over time. Phelan
recommended between conceptual and final the applicant look at possibly a
different location for the service road or how to mitigate some of the impacts; is it
necessary to raise Castle Creek Road; is there an alternate solution that meets the
needs of the hospital; the recommendations of the traffic engineer to include a
larger area of improvements on the main entry and a detailed traffic impact
analysis be submitted at final and work with the city engineer.
Mike Wampler said that he did not understand raising the road; why can't the road
be approached from the other side instead of having to raise the road. Phelan
stated there was a concern about raising the road and grade and visual
requirements. Staff asked for an alternative solution that isn't as impactful and
look at that between conceptual and final. Leslie Lamont said that the proposal
that was in the application was at Whitcomb Terrace that does not work from a
safety perspective engineering standard because it was too steep coming down to
Castle Creek Road. Lamont said that there was concern from Parks and
Engineering for the dumping of snow in the first pond submitted in the first
proposal for the use of the trail to haul the snow to the first pond. Lamont said that
the neighbors and staff wanted Doolittle Drive improvements looked at as well
with regards to safety issues. LJ Erspamer asked if traffic flow was going to be
one way with one entrance and one exit. Gideon Kaufman asked that the drawings
be utilized to show the proposed entrance and existing entrance.
Alex Ariniello, LSC Transportation Consultants, said that he has been working on
this since the summer of 2006 with an employee survey. Ariniello utilized a power
point for the traffic study procedures, data collection, existing traffic, alternate
mode use, trip generation, trip distribution, trip assignment, project background
traffic, tota12030 traffic, roadway level of service, roadway level of service 2008,
roadway level of service 2030, site access improvements, parking demand, travel
demand management and Aspen Valley Hospital study update. Ariniello said the
traffic study includes an "A" to "F" grading; "A" being the best and "F" the worst
and it was based on the delay at the intersection. Cliff Weiss asked if there was a
mitigation plan for ambulances through the round about. Ariniello said that a two
lane round about would allow for cars to pull over to the right for an ambulance to
get through. Erspamer asked if Rich Walker could attend the next meeting on the
ambulance issue. Weiss said that he wanted to hear from city streets department;
he asked if the round about was city. Phelan replied that it was a state highway.
Ariniello said that the intersection was operating at level "B".
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Ariniello said that they were still working on the new access point would have
good levels of service as well as the existing access. Ariniello said there would be
aright tum lane at the new access; they were looking at the Doolittle and Castle
Creek intersection for the bus stop and passenger loading area.
Ariniello said that they surveyed the employees and staff on parking and projected
the demand into the future. Ariniello said that the typical parking demand rate is
3.5 parked vehicles per 1,000 square feet; they estimated patient stations parking
spaces at .75 parked vehicles per each patient station. Stan Gibbs asked where the
numbers for medical office come from. Ariniello replied it comes from national
rates for medical office. Weiss asked if the number included guests and supplies.
Ariniello replied yes. Gibbs asked if this report takes into account winter
conditions. Ariniello answered there were traffic counters throughout the year on
State Highway 82.
Wampler asked if they weren't increasing the services at the hospital except for the
medical offices why were the traffic numbers increasing; where were these
numbers coming from. Ariniello responded they were increasing the square
footage for the current offices, check-in area and hospital rooms. Lamont said that
the medical office spaces are calculated from what traffic count is generated,
parking demand and employee generation perspective. Lamont said that Ariniello
looked at straight engineering manual standards that say for "x" square feet of
patient stations that are added they generate "x" much traffic and they haven't gone
back in and factored in the decompression argument with parking and traffic
generation. John Sarpa said that this was pretty conservative even with the traffic
issues in this city. Gideon Kaufinan agreed that these numbers were calculated at a
higher rate.
Erspamer asked if the bus ridership would improve if there was a direct bus route
to the hospital and back. Ariniello replied that from the survey a direct route
would improve bus ridership.
Bobbie Berkley, public, said that as it is now you go to the doctors office and then
to the hospital and then back to the doctor's office; the medical offices in the
hospital would remove cars from coming into town.
Erspamer complimented Alex Ariniello as being the best traffic consultant that he
has encountered and the complimented the hospital for using him.
Erspamer asked for an explanation on the numbers that exceeded the noise level of
the helicopter from Tom Dunlop's report and the touchdowns.
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Phelan said that parking was the next item; currently there were 175 surface at
grade parking spaces in the two general areas on the site and the applicant was
proposing a total of 339 parking spaces in a parking garage with two accesses and
surface parking. The parking garage took advantage of the typography that slips
away and should fit into the site better and not protrude out of the site with the
parking structure. Phelan said that the parking estimate was based on an old
proposal of 29,000 square feet and the current proposal was 17,000 square feet.
Staff requested that the parking be re-evaluated at the final application so that there
wasn't more parking provided than necessary. Lamont said that the MLS space
was still shifting around. Weiss said that he had not seen much in the way of
diagrams of the parking structure; he asked if that would be seen only at final.
Richard Wolfe replied that he had elevations to address that; it was shown on the
elevations and they would have a better presentation at final. Wolfe stated that the
parking structure was half buried as the grade falls away it reveals itself to the
north for the full two stories that it is and they were proposing to drape it in a metal
skin to erase the typical standard precast beam and column appearance. Sarpa said
that you will only see the parking structure for a split second driving up to the
hospital.
Erspamer asked the floor heights and the heights of the building. Rich Wolfe said
that when the building was constructed in the 1970s it was about 70,000 square
feet and has resided in this growing residential neighborhood. Wolfe said there
were screens of trees and shrubbery and the two story addition to the east will
continue to benefit from the screening of that cottonwood stand along Castle Creek
Road. Wolfe utilized the elevation drawings to show the building itself and the
material palette of red brick, buff and red sandstone. Wolfe showed the new
service road curving around and the basement level is exposed, which has the
greatest dimension. Erspamer asked if the mechanical would be on the side of the
building. John Schied replied there would be some rooftop air handling units with
a screen of these units. Leslie Lamont said the 2 story element was 30 feet 6
inches to the top of the parapet and the 3 story height was at 49 feet 6 inches and
the height of the parking structure at the north end was 29 feet and the stair tower
was 34 feet. Lamont said that the heights were the maximum.
Jennifer Phelan noted on page 7 of the memo was a portion of the site plan to show
the easements that were currently on the site; there was a 100 foot easement
paralleling Castle Creek Road from the property line when the plat was originally
recorded. The Nordic Trail has its own separate easement and so do the utilities
and the pedestrian trail. Phelan said the parking garage structure would encroach
into this existing easement so the easement needs to be removed and she would go
to other departments for review.
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Lamont said that in 1992 the hospital sought an amendment to their 1989 Master
Plan that was approved as part of this amendment the hospital proposed three 2
story townhomes for hospital housing and they did not comply with the housing
guidelines so therefore would not count towards the mitigation. Lamont said that
was why this parcel shows up platted and the county had a setback requirement of
100 feet from all significant roads and that 100 foot easement did not get platted
until 1996. Lamont said that they think that this 100 foot easement was a mistake
and they wanted a bike trail easement and the PMH parcel was required in 1992.
Lamont said that when they re-plat the property they will clean up the plat.
Kaufman said that one of the reasons that the hospital was doing the overall Master
Plan was to plan the whole property and not piecemeal.
Wolfe using slides reviewed the new OB addition and where the service road will
be coming through; the new patient wing of phase 2 and the parking structure.
Wolfe showed the view from across Meadowwood Drive to where the Nordic Trail
crosses over. Weiss voiced concern about the parking structure.
Chuck Frias, public, said that he was involved with the community advisory
committee and they have done a great job addressing issues and the applicants
have met with Measdowwood. Frias said that lighting was an important issue to be
addressed and the landscape screen would help. Frias supported everything.
Bobbie Berkley, public, said that they have done a good job involving the entire
neighborhood with site plans and site tours throughout the process.
Phelan recapped the last three meetings for the resolution; conceptually the size,
architecture, design and use were okay. The parking garage needed more detail
for the final review and so did the lighting for the parking garage. The parameters
were okay for the growth management with regard to employee generation to
include what the hospital will generate with volume, support services,
decompression and increased efficiency. For the medical office space staff
recommended an audit of other offices and the use of credits was okay; work with
Parks Department and the neighbors with regards to the finalization of the Nordic
Trail location. Staff recommended further review/study on the detention ponds be
required for snow storage, in particular vehicular use was not permitted on trails,
so an alternative solution for access or snow storage needs to be considered.
MOTION: Stan Gibbs moved to extend the meeting until 7.•10; seconded by Brian
Speck. All in favor, APPROVED.
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Phelan continued that reconsideration of the service road be undertaken to look at
the raising of Castle Creek with a less impactful solution. Include a greater study
area for improvements to the main access including the RFTA bus stop, the
crossing and the pedestrian trail to be brought in for final. There needs to be a
detailed transportation impact analysis with a broader scope and re-evaluate the
parking needs with further study with more information at final. Work with other
departments on the 100 foot easement to mitigate any potential impacts to the trail
and more history on the affordable housing parcel to remove that from the final
plat.
Alica Miller, public, works for the hospital stated that there were car pools for the
employees and they continue to look at that.
Jim Timberlin, public, employee of the hospital, stated that he worked with the
transportation committee and said the van would be running 7 days a week
beginning in Glenwood Springs to the hospital.
MOTION.• Mike Wampler moved to continue the meeting for the Aspen Valley
Hospital Master Plan Conceptual PUD to August 19`"; seconded by Brian Speck.
All in favor, APPROVED.
Adjourned at 7:10 pm.
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ckie Lothian, Deputy City Clerk
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