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HomeMy WebLinkAboutcoa.cclc.min.021809COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 18.2009 Chairperson Terry Butler called the meeting to order at 8:30 a.m. Commissioner in attendance: Don Sheeley, Andrew Kole, Mark Goodman and Roger Haneman. Fred Ayarza, Bill Dinsmoor and John Starr were excused. Staff: Kathy Strickland, Chief Deputy City Clerk Aaron Reed, Engineering Department Jim True, Special Counsel Outside dining: Jim True, special counsel for the City of Aspen: The Engineering Dept. has to approve encroachments. Several issues came up on outside dining. The idea was to be a little less redundant and consolidate. The liquor board has to approve everything because of serving alcohol. The Engineering Dept. will be at the liquor board hearing. It would be most sufficient to take things to the liquor board. The goal would be to advise everyone and they would address the liquor board and the board would approve the area of serving alcohol. Engineering would participate. The desire is to consolidate it. If CCLC wants to make recommendations for the mall leases we can discuss that. Terry said 9 years ago we almost had no mall leases. We took it on as one of our projects and encouraged businesses to do outside dining. We have worked well through the years on this. Jim said from the liquor board's standpoint they want to see everyone who is selling alcohol. Andrew said we have tough economics and there will be more confusion on how they are going to make money. Between Terry, Bill and myself we are here and watch the malls. Creating a complicated process this year could be a mistake. Andrew suggested that someone from the Engineering Dept. and Liquor come to the CCLC. You have Junk opening up and Dish will probably be gone. You need someone available on an easier basis through the summer. COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 18, 2009 Terry said issues in the past have been overhangs, sandwich boards, chairs and tables. Jim said with the mall leases I understand that but if you look outside that Gusto etc. you look into different groups that are involved. Andrew said from apro- restaurant situation it is easier to find the CCLC to get over there for a problem at a restaurant. Jim asked Engineering what problems they had last year. Aaron said with regards to Bruno's, from an engineering standpoint how far they should go out was an issue. It was an encroachment issue. Andrew and Terry said they wander around the core nightly. Terry said it is easier for me to tell the restaurant that they are in violation or will lose their lease. Jim said there isn't a fine pulling an encroachment license. Andrew said he sees this summer more tense and engineering hasn't been that effective. Don pointed out that this organization wants to keep the mall leases. One reason is because people like our organization and we all go around and they trust us. One of my main issues is if it isn't broken don't fix it. Andrew said he doesn't understand why we were excluded from the meetings. Jim said last summer we had different entities doing different things. Terry said Tricia from Engineering said they were overloaded and said they would prefer not to do the enforcements. The problems are easily solved. Jim said he would like to figure out something that doesn't get council involved. Jim said the enforcement would come through the liquor authority or engineering department. Terry said we have solved things without enforcement. COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 18, 2009 Aaron said his concern is that traveling public are safe. That is our concern. The movement of the public is important. Aaron said his ultimate goal is to see that everyone is meeting the general requirement we have set forth. Andrew said we walk everyday through the malls. It is easy for us to do that. Don asked if Aaron pull the encroachment permit. Aaron said no because we don't want to discourage outside dining. Andrew said if you have volunteer boards you need to give them something to do. Aaron said when we have complaints down the street we have to respond. Andrew said Aaron could call one of the CCLC members instead of the liquor board when there is an issue and we could talk to the restaurant owner. Terry pointed out that this is one of the simplest things we do. Motion: Don made the motion that the CCLC take over the mall leases and all outside dining in the commercial core. We will work out a process with the liquor board and engineering dept.; second by Andrew. All in favor, motion carried. Terry said the goal is to solve the problem with less problems. Market food: Don made the motion to allow food in the park for the Saturday Market; second by Andrew. Mark said we are going against our policies. Roger said he feels we need something in the line of food in the park. Andrew said food generate bodies in the market. Don said if it doesn't work we won't do it the following year. 3 COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 18.2009 Motion carried 4-1. Mark opposed. Discussion on the ACRA booth. Mark recommended that no non-profits be in the ACRA booth. They can register with the non-profit booth. Don said he will talk to Debbie and Erik about the contract. Mark said the spirit of the contract was for businesses. Terry said the contract doesn't say anything about non-profits. 4 Kathleen J. Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk