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'Special Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission July 26, 1977
A special meeting was held by the Planning and Zoning Commission on 26 July
1977 at 5:00 p.m. in the City Council Chambers in City Hall. Commission
members Chic Collins, Roaer Hunt, Olaf Hedstrom, Tom Isaac, John Schuhmacher,
and Dick Kienast were present. Also present was Mayor Stacy Standley,
County Attorney Sandy Stuller, Planners Bill Kane and Karen Smith,
Nelson Owen from the Parks Department, and City Manager Mick Mahoney.
Collins brought the meeting to order at 5:15 p.m. The
first item was the Triangle Park public hearing.
Triangle Park Bill Kane presented the facts about Triangle Park. The
Public Hearing code requires that a public hearing beheld for parks in
the R-6 zone since it is a conditional use. The notic e
was in the Aspen Times on 7 July 1977. The application is
for a master plan for Triangle Park. It is an open site
of about 6000 square feet on which a few pieces of play
equipment are located. The City acquired the site this
year. City Council minutes authorizing the purchase of
the land, discussing the conditions, sale prices, etc.
were submitted for the record. They include 13 December
1976, 10 January 1977, and 27 June 1977. They may be
viewed in the City Clerk's office. Fonda Paterson
engaged Georgianne Waggaman to draw plans for the Triangle
Park. The central issue is to determine proposed plans
to see if the use complies with the zoning code (R-6),
if it is consistent with the zoning code, or if it is
consistent with the surrounding land uses. There are
3 plans for the park: the original plan, the amended plan
and the proposed plan presented by the neighborhood. Kane
presented a West End Home Owner's Association petition
signed by 53 people against the City proposal for the park
for the record. There were also 17 letters in opposition
to the park. Another petition writen by Fonda Paterson
supporting the park plan signed by 70 people was entered
into the record. 16 letters supporting the park were
included.
Georgianne Waggaman with the aid of drawings discussed
the original plan and amended plan for Triangle Park.
The amended plan left more open space, no paved areas,
2 lowered play areas and heavy shrubbery in the play areas.
Collins asked if there was a use study of the parks. Kane
said that in January 1974, Armstrong presented a
comprehensive plan for the park system. There are presently
3 active parks. There is a need for an active park in
the west end. Hunt felt the park would be too intensive
a use as presented. He questioned the Parks Department
rationale for choosing this location. Nelson Owen said
that it would be the only park in a central location in
town the other three are more outside of town. Hunt
reiterated his doubts. Isaac did not want the point
belaboured. Who wants kids playing in the street. Hunt
then said it might be underused. Why spend $20,000 on
something which might not be used. Kand said that the
basic issue is whether it can be in a residential area
or not. The elementary school does not have a grass play
area. It is in the center of town. It is an informal
use of the property. The facility can be used at any
time.
Ann Salter Ann Salter presented the design proposed by the West
End Home Owner's Association. There would only be a
16 foot sunken sandbox which could be flooded in the winter
to skate on. In the City plan the play areas cannot be
used all year round.
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Special Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission July 26, ].977
Fonda Paterson said that the sand area in the city's plan
is an active area, in the West End plan it is inactive.
Ann Salter wondered why a public hearing notice did not
come out until after the play structures were delivered.
Paterson said that there was an article in the paper
about the city adopting plans for the park in April.
There was no response to that article.
Waggaman described the play materials to be installed in
the park and their scale within the park. Lundy felt
that the equipment crowded the play area too much.
Hun± wondered which plan was approved for. the park. Standley
said that City Council does not care which plan is used.
The amended would not cost as much. Kane said ±hat P&Z
should be voting on the amended plan.
Jennifer Pedersen Jennifer Pedersen said that she was responsible for making
the motion to purchase Traingle Park. First to utilize
it as a passive park would be to overload the west end
with passive parks which would be a mistake. Secondly,
this was once a mining community and not a Victorian
community, thus massive would is a ridiculous argument.
Thirdly, there is a large auto disincentive. Children
can ride their bikes or walk to the Bark. If you objec±
to the squeeking of tennis shoes, then you can drive your
car to one of the other Barks. Fourthly, there is a need
for a children's park in this residential neighborhood.
Are children not residents? Fifthly, perhaps it is easier
for many of the residents in the West End to have a passive
park to look at. Children represent growth and charge
which is not passive.
Fonda Paterson Fonda Paterson said that for thirty years this land has been
in private ownership. There was equipment there for kids.
For some reason now that it is an official park, people
do not want it to be developed for children.
Collins closed the public hearing..
Collins said that the park should be compatible and low
key. The intensity of_ the use with the City plan is
questionable. A children's park is appropriate. To
dig a pit to hide something which is heavy for that park is
a bit much. Could deal with smaller children only. There
are other places for larger children. A structure as large
as planned does not stand out as much at Waggoner's Park.
Action on this req~!est should be tabled until there is a
site inspection.
Hunt concurred with Collins. Hunt had seen the park used
for larger activities like baseball and frisbee. The plan
cuts ou± mur_.h of the usable area. Collins didn't think
that frisbee and baseball were appropriate for a children's
park.
Hedstrom thought. that a children's park was appropriate.
It would be nicer as a children-adult park. It should be
designed to discourage older park activities. Activities
for all ages cannot be combined successfully in one park.
Schuhmacher said it should be a children's park. He wanted
a site inspection to see what open space would be left.
It seems to be heavy gear going into a small si*_e.
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BRADFORD PUBLIBHIN6 CO., DENVER R E C O R D O F P R O C E E D I N G S
Special Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission July 26, 1977
Hunt moved to approve the expansion of conditional use
for the Copper House boarding house specifically
recognizing the addi+_ion of two windows for existing
employee units on the basis of the units being employee
type housing once and the history of signifi..cantly lower
auto usage than normal. It is the Commission's
determination that auto parking need not be expanded.
Kienast seconded the motion. All in favor; motion
passed.
Kienast moved to adjourn at 7:15 p.m., seconded by Isaac.
All in favor; meeting adjourned.
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Elisabeth Sherrill, Deputy City Clerk