HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.apz.19760817RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
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Regular Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission August 17, 1976
Chairman Chic Collins called the meeting to order at 5:13 PM with members
Dick Kienast, Roger Bunt, Olaf Hedstrom present. Danny Abbott was excused.
John Schuhmacher was absent. Also present were Bill Kane, John Stanford, and
Hal Clark of the Planning Office, and City Attorney Sandra Stuller.
The minutes from the July 27th meeting were approved with
Approval of Pflinutes the following corrections: Page 2,para.4, line 2,typo;
Page 3, Para 4, line 9, change "these" to "lease"; Page 4
para.4, line 12, strike "getting some sort" and add "that
a savings and loan would be an appropriate ", Page 5, para.
2, line 3, add "any square footage excess of dedication
feeshould be compensated by the City, or any square foot-
age remainder to be paid by the applicant, Pge 5, para.8
line 3, typo, Page 6, pare 2, line 8, typo. Hunt moved
to approve the minutes with these corrections. Kienast
seconded. All in favor, motion carried.
Chairman Collins suggested that a resolution be drafted
Old Business in recognition of the fine service rendered by Allison Dowr
ing to P&Z. Kienast so moved, seconded by Hunt. All in
favor, motion carried.
Bill Kane said he would like to set up a weekly work ses-
6dork Session Sion to study the projects at hand. It was decided that
the session would be held at noon on Tuesday preceding the
5:00 meeting.
Public Hearing--
Public Hearing---O-Office District
0-Office District John Stanford explained the proposed amendment to the O-
Office Zone. It is to clear up the recent zoning changes
in the historic district.The major changes are divided
into three areas: first, the change in permitted and con-
ditional uses; second, the area and bulk requirements;
third the off-street parking requirements. Business apgd
professional offices were changed from conditional use to
permitted uses. Restaurants, fraternal lodges, boarding
houses and shop craft industries were added to the list of
conditional uses.
The parking requirements are such that 3/1000 sq. ft. are
required, and fewer spaces can be permitted by special re-
view by the Planning and Zoning Commission but no less than
1.5 spaces per 1000 sq. ft.
Elizabeth Paepcke agreed with the planning office in its
Public Comments recommendation, but proposed that it would be a better
idea if it were made economically feasible for the owners
to maintain their houses, either through a tax adjustment
or some kind of break frerri the City.
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Therese David questioned the criteria used in determining
which uses were appropriate and which were not. I".s. David
asked why a music store was more acceptable than a small
shop in her home.
xarry Shaw, representing Shaw Properties, asked what kind
~f guarantee the Planning and Zonina Commission could
give him that the same kind of process would not happen
again in 6 months or a year.
Stanford responded to t4s.David by explaining that shops
and boutiques generate traffic, but -chat the Planning Of-
fice has no objections to what she wants to do. Flanning
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FOgM N G F. XO FLN EL B. B. B L [0.
Regular Meeting Planning and Zonin Commission Aug. 17, 1976
Public Hearing for Diain Street Historic District
Public Hearing--
Main St. Historic John Stanford stated that all buildings in the historic
District district would come under review of the HPC for any ex-
terior remodeling or reconstruction of an existing struc-
ture, and the demolition or moving of an historic struc-
ture. The procedure an owner would go through to accomp-
lish any of the above is (1) submit preliminary plans
to the building inspector, (2) Present the plans to HPC
for review in regard to compatability with the surround-
ing structures, (3) HPC either gives approval or disap-
proval, (4)applicant has recourse to appeal to City Council
within 60 days from the decision of the HPC.
The justification of the historic district is that it is
Justification one way of preserving the historic structures of Aspen,
makes Main St. more attractive to tourists, protects the
views of Independence Pass and Aspen Mountain, and is com-
patible with the general plan. Stanford submitted several
documents to the record, including maps, proofs of publi-
cation, letters from property owners, and notices of pub-
lic hearings.
The public hearing was opened•
Barry Shaw said that the plan was an excellent one, but
that he wants a written guarantee that the uses allowed
will be the same for approximately the next 10 years.
Hans Gramiger stated that the guidelines of the HPC are
HPC review built-in safeguards for the owners as well as for the
Committee. He further stated that since architectural
review is illegal in Colorado, the HPC is the closest
that we can come to it.
Larry Groen pointed out that the HPC, in considering a
new structure, prefers to see a contemporary one rather
than a fake Victorian. He said the quality and compati-
bility is more important than the attempt to make a
stab at creating 'Victoriana'.
Shaw said that he wanted to go on record as being against
Historic designation, and wanted his letter to Groen en-
tered into the public record.
Olaf Hedstrom moved to approve the joint resolution of the
HPC and P & 'L to establish a Main Street historic district.
Motion to approve Kienast seconded.
Shaw brought up the point that several letters were re-
Letters from turned from property owners who were not in favor of his-
property owners toric designation. 6 letters were returned undeliverable,
11 letters in favor, 1S against. Approximately 60 letters
were sent out. Collins asked i£ any of the property own-
ers against were present. Besides Shaw, none were present.
Bob Conner stated that his notice was sent to the previous
owner.
Therese David asked if the property taxes would go down
if historic district plans were approved. There was no
rebuttal.
Hunt suggested tabling action until more of the property
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Regular Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission August 17 1476
Kane said he would review the proposal for rezoning for
the Commission. Kane proposed to give the Institute's
planners an idea of what to expect in terms of what the
Planning and Zoning Commission will require of them.
Collins said he would rather continue the meeting to next
week. However, he allowed that Kane should go ahead with
the description of the proposal.
Description of Kane said that he thought it was appropriate to proceed
proposal without a master plan, but it would not be reasonable
to assume that the zoning could be accomplished without
additional plans. The application could be summarized
in the following way: (1) a proposal for increased ac-
{~commodations in the area. The proposal calls for a total
nT €e-356 rooms, broken down as follows: conversion of 8
trustee houses into 16 lodging rooms; 282 lodging rooms
in a new structure; construction of 20 new executive
suites; conversion of the Kresge Bldg. into 56 units to be
used for employee housing and subsidized accommodations;
(2) a propsal to change the zoning of the riding ring to
R15 or have adequate compensation,(3) the area across
Castle Creek to be reserved for future lots. In addition
to these physical improvements, the application carries
with it a request to give speedy treatment to a convey-
ance of 30 acres to Denver University (DU), and consider-
ation to the conveyance of 20 to 30 acres for construction
fo the conference facility.
The existing health club would be upgraded and integrated
with the proposed new buildings. The concern of the Plan-
ning Office is that hotel rooms will create less in the
Impact of hotel way of auto impact if the planning is such that the area
rooms be car-free, and totally shuttle supported. Planning
recommends that whatever plan is settled on, that it be
a plan which takes into consideration th~transfer of den-
sity from the surrounding areas. Planning feels that fur-
ther subdivision in the area would be an impact on the
residential area, and that there was no guarantee that the
housing would not be used as a hotel, however Planning
has voiced support of the preliminary plans.
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quirec~pecifically on how the units are to be used. On
a conceptual level, given that density would be trans-
fered from the riding ring to Castle Creek, there is no
problem with the number of units. Kane suggested that
perhaps some of the needs of the community could be served.
As an example, some of the MAA housing needs, Ballet YVest,
Housing needs and various performing arts groups could be dealt with in
this setting. The application is practically devoid of
any mention of winter use, and the actual role of DU.
Fritz Benedict is the architect on the project, and pa3-r~a•
to use natural materials. flans
Donald McKinley, a trustee of the Institute, stated the
position of the AIHS. He expressed appreciation to the
Planning Offiee for the work they have done. His point
was that the Institute is interested in using the confer-
ence center for its conferences in the summer, and DU wouYl
carry on in the winter. There is no interest in using the
center for tourists. There is no way that this can be
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