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Home My WebLink Aboutminutes.apz.19760316RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves FORM W C. F, MOELI(EL R. 0. B L CO. Regular Meeting Aspen Planning and Zonin Commission March 16, 1976 Meeting was called to order by Chairman Chic Collins at 5:15 p.m. with members Roger Hunt, John Schuhmaker, Pat Dobie, and Danny Abbott. Excused was Allison Dowining. Also present was City/County Planner Bill Kane; Hal Clark and John Stanford of the planning office and City Attorney Stuller. Approval of Minutes Hunt moved to approve the minutes of the iiarch 9, 1976 meeting with the following correction: Page 1, paragraph 3, line one, "erros" should be "errors"; page 4, para- graph three, line eleven, the word "needs" should be deleted; page 4, paragraph three, line fifteen, the word "covenance" should be "covenants"; page 5, para- graph 4, line five, delete "I agree with only". The motion was seconded by Dobie. All in favor, motion carried. Old Business Collins questioned if the Burrows application was an Subdivision exemption from subdivision regulations and the exemption Exemption be granted outside of the technical requirements of the Burrows subdivision ordinance. City Attorney Stuller responded that it is a legislative determination; the commission has to determine if there are any objectives of the Chapter 20 review going to be obviated by not having full compliance with the review requirement of that chapter. Hunt asked to have City Attorney Stuller re-write the proposed resolution. Hunt would prefer limiting the extensions to bedrooms and bathrooms because those rooms would identify an increase of people on the property. Hunt wouldn't like to see a continued increase of the impact of the nonconforming use on the three lots. Collins questioned if the Burrows application was a nonconfroming structure or a nonconforming use of structure. City Attorney Stuller explained that it would be classified as a nonconforming use. A nonconforming structure is limited because it doesn't appear too often. It is concerned with structures themselves which violate setback requirements and height requirements. A nonconforming structure is used when talking about densities and types of uses. The structure itself is not nonconforming, the use is nonconforming. By extending a non-conforming use doesn't mean an extension to a building, it means extending or enlarging a nonconformity. Kane explained the applicant can add a bedroom to the building because the building itself is not nonconforming. It is reasonable to regulate certain applications and unreasonable to regulate others. If the Commission is going to start to allocate density in other dwelling units; Cit;~ Attorney Stuller suggested that it be put in the Code right away. City Attorney Stuller suggested the Commission to grant conditional approval on not enlarging the structure. Motion Hunt moved to recommend exemption of subdivision regula- tions on the Burrows property, Block 20, Lots Q,R,S as the purposes of those regulations have been met, conditioned upon the following: 1) the City Engineer's memo dated February 26, 1976, comments 3 and 4 only; 2) the property is either condominiumized or covered by a use maintenance agreement; 3) because the owner benefits from a nonconforming use of the property, significant additions to the size of either building is not allowed; 4) and for the purposes of redevelopment of this property the three lots must be considered as a unit. 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TT~Z •uo?gout auq oq zd auq zapun steal oMg u? aug ueatu qou saop quaunuoo 9L6T '9T gozEgs uo~ss?unuo~ bu?uoZ puE bu?uuETd RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves PoRM b C. F. NO E[K EL B. B. B L CO. Regular Meeting Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission March 16, 1976 height. Commission members didn't like the idea of cutting the height; because when the limits are set every- thing has a tendency to come to the same level. A variety of short and squat buildings and tall skinny ones would give more open space and the building could be of a more unique design. Collins would like to see the residential bonus be extended out to the C-1 district. The consensus of the Board is to keep it at 1.5:1 but keept it at 1:1 by right for commercial space and an additional .5 for residents. c) Commercial Lodge (CL) - Reduce the existing external FAR from 2:1 to 1.5:1. The rationale is the only area available for commercial lodge development is the parcel towards the mountain from Rubey Park and part of that is already developed. The other two commercial lodge areas are the North of Nell Building and the Aspen Square. This will prevent a 40 foot structure from being built on the area at the base of the mountain. Hunt would like to see more open space; therefore suggested to have a tall thin building rather than a short massive building. The consensus was to agree with the proposal. d) Neighborhood Commercial PUD (NC/PUD) - Reduce the existing external FAR from 1:1 to 0.5:1. There were no objections by the Board. e) Service Commercial/Industrial (SC/I) - Reduce the existing FAR from 2:1 to 1:1. The commission agreed. f) Office (O) - Reduce the FAR from 1:1 to 0.75 - By right; Special Review 0.25 - Residential when coordinated with Housing Authority. Stanford explained at present there are two office districts and would like to combine the two office districts into one. Gramiger, who was in attendance of the meeting, questioned how that would affect a person if he wanted to go half-and-half; half office and half residential. Gramiger felt it wasn't really clarified in the proposal. Gramiger questioned if the person would get the benefit of 1:1 if he did half-and-half. Kane responded a person would be entitled to a full 1:1 FAR with a half-to-half mix. It was suggested to make that more clear. The Commission agreed with the proposal. g) Commercial One (C1) - reduce 40 foot height limit to 32 feet. The same feelings about the size and width of buildings was discussed. The consensus of the Board was to leave it at 40 feet; but if the planning department can come up with more flexible technique they would listen to the proposal. Perhaps something with a more flexible technique; because maybe something could be incorporated to preserve the historic buildings. h) Commercial Lodge (CL) - reduce 40 foot height limit to 28 feet (same as Lodge One and Lodge Two Districts). The rationale is because there are particular locations that are predominately residential and there are still a good number of victorian structures. This would be trying to preserve the existing character of the neighborhood. The commission agreed with the proposal. 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