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Continued Meeting Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission December 2, 1975
Meeting was called to order by Chairman Jack Jenkins at 7:30 p.m. with members
Brian Goodheim, Patrick Dobie, Roger Hunt, Mike Otte, and Chic Collins
present. Also present was City/County Planner Bill Kane and Hal Clark from
the Planning Department. Also City Attorney Stuller
The meeting which was scheduled at 5:00 was cancelled due to a study session
with City Council on the Little Annie Ski Basin.
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Commercial Bakery Hunt^¢ o approve
O-S Zone District wnrdina~Commercial Bakery'~outlined in the Ordinance;
seconded by Otte. All in favor, motion carried.
The amendment was made in Ordinance #84, Series of 1975.
The Title of that Ordinance reads as follows:
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ASPEN ZONING CODE BY
THE ADDITION OF SUBSECTION (bb) TO SECTION
24-3.1 SUCH AS TO PROVIDE FOR THE DEFINITION
PROVIDES FOR PRODUCTION AND WHOLESALING OF
BAKED GOODS BUT PROHIBITS OVER THE COUNTER
SALES THEREOF ON THE PREMISES
The Ordinance is written in full-and is attached to
the minutes.
Trueman Property Hunt mentioned that last week the Planning and Zoning
(Continued from had ~as~ked ~he .T~ueman property developers to givd'`seme-
November 25, 1975 ~'cnk~na ~'o ~Q~~_~~b + the panhandle area in relation to
Meeting) the road that might be relocated in the Red Mountain area
and also asked City Attorney Stuller to do the same thing
and Planner Bill Kane. Jenkins asked that the three
presentations be given at the study session which will
be December 4, 1975 at 5:00 p.m.
Kane submittted the Planning Department comments. Kane
asked that the memorandum be submitted for the record.
The memo is as follows:
After careful review of the Conceptual Subdivision
proposal for the Trueman property we recommend in
general:
1. A reduction in the size of the multi-purpose
commercial building and
2. Clearer provision for a new road alignment
through the site.
SIZE OF COMMERCIAL FACILITIES
The property is currently zoned S.C.I. and N.C., Neigh-
borhood Commercial with a Special Planned Area overlay.
It is our understanding that these zoning catagories
were applied to establish use regulations while in
general deferring to the S.P.A. review process to
determine more detailed matters such as bulk, height,
density, circulation, etc. The applicants are at this
time requesting conceptual approval for a 23,000 square
foot Post Office and an additional 75,000 square feet
for commercial, office and residential purposes. All
of the permitted uses in the N.C. zone are submitted
below along with the respective floor area limitations
now provided for in the Code. Assuming that the Planning
Office recommendation to reduce food store areas from
20,000 square feet to 12,000 square feet is rejected,
it is clear from the list that the total range of
permitted uses in the N.C. zone would require 35,000
square feet.
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FORM W C. F. NOECR EL B. B. G L. C0.
Continued Meeting Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission December 2, 1975
Trueman Property If the scale of the street and is a collector and draws
(Cont'd) upon a traffic service area that is substantially beyond
this development then generally there is a participation
schedule and that is something that has to be worked out.
Kane mentioned that if we are requiring a collector
street and the architectes go through their development
and they aren't generating a need for that street and
there are other requirements then perhaps they should
dedicate in part. Kane felt that both the recommendations
generate alot of debate.
City Attorney Stuller explained that full dedications are
seldoml~i required and when they are they are usually as
a result of internal street systems that service almost
exclusively the project that is being proposed. Off-
site improvements sometimes require a contribution by a
land owner when two circumstances exist; 1) when the
development is participated in whole or part by the
development proposed, 2) and when the development will be
very beneficially enhanced as a result of the improvement.
City Attorney Stuller continued to explain that first
of all to the extent of which the roadway is made
necessary by the proposals and in this particular
proposal, and feels that both the roadway itself will
be necessary for the proper development of the tract;
and in addition thinks the relocation of Mill Street
is going to be percipitated in part by the development
of both sides of the Trueman tract--The Rio Grande and
the Trueman property itself. Secondly, the tract
itself will benefit substantially by the roadway just
by virtue of being there; it's abetter access road
for the development site, etc. City Attorney Stuller
feels that given these two elements that Grueter will
agree that some participation in dedication of the roadway
is necessary or is at least arguable. In addition, the
City has taken the position that Condemnation is also
appropriate here because the roadway is designed to
service Red Mountain, Smuggler, and other aspects of
the City in addition to enhancing the availability of
this tract. What will happen is we will work out a
compromise where some comdemnation occurs and some
dedication occurs and we will work out that formula
in-house. City Attorney Stuller feels that for the time
being the roadway should be shown on the plat.
City Attorney Stuller felt that the only way that Planning
and Zoning will be able to protect themselves is to
state up front that conditional approval will not
constitute any type of preliminary approval to any
conditional uses that each will be argued on those
merits and if there is going to be empty space he will
have to assume that hardship. At this point, it will
be a self-inflicted hardship and you will have to take
a hard stand on that.
City Attorney Stul er made a statement for the record
stating that; the posture that every conditional
use application will have to be proven on its merits
and that you don't waive any objection to it by making
this conceptual. It is inherent in the process and it
should be inherent to you if you want to state it to
make it more clear to you for purposes.
Grueter felt that basically he and City Attorney Stuller
had no disagreement on this. City Attorney Stuller
mentioned that the theory they agree, but the facts will
be argued later.
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Continued Meeting Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission December 2, 1975
Trueman Property Collins moved to table any action on this application
(Cont'd) until the Planning and Zoning has had a chance to
review the proposed dowhzoning.S<t~,,~L~( ,Q,~ ,~,>~-~.-L~
Otte suggested that Thursday, December 4, 1975 they have
a study session on the downzoning and Tuesday, December
9, 1975 they discuss the Trueman Property.
All in favor, of the motion were Goodheim, Dobie, Otte,
and Collins. Opposed were Jenkins and Hunt.
Wedum-Hyman Jenkins opened the public hearing; and closed the public
hearing and tabled it.
Ordinance #66 Jenkins opened the public hearing and closed the public
67 hearing.
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Hunt moved to table Ordinance #66, 67, 71, Series of
1975; and Wedum-Hyman preliminary subdivision; seconded
by Otte. All in favor, motion carried.
Callahan Subdivision Jenkins opened the public hearing on the Callahan
Subdivision, preliminary plat, and three rezoning
applicants.
Clark presented the Callahan Subdivision. Clark passed
out an engineering analysis which Dave Ellis of the
engineering department prepared and was on the preliminary
plat. Conclusion is on page 4 and theconclusion stated
that all of the above comments and requirements appear
to have workable solutions. The applicant has submitted
extra working drawings on utilities and circulation.
The Engineering Department recommended that conditional
preliminary approval be granted. However, due to the
extent of the conditions which are from the engineering
department and are as follows: An additional 10 foot
set back in case there should ever be a request to
make this a public road, Planning Department agrees with
that. They are talking about extending a water system
up Highway 82 to also cover Mountain Valley area; the
engineering department is requiring 8 inch line rather
than a 6 inch line. All of the conditions in the memo
have been met. We have discussed the water right with
the applicant and they are in agreement with the Planning
Department. The preliminary plat has been sent out to
20 different referral agencies and getting comments back
from referral agencies and incorporating them into the
engineering comments such as the ditch companies,
water and electrical departments, gas companies we
are incorporating all their information on this pre-
liminary plat. We want them to show access off interior
road system rather than highway 82, certain sites
require pumping for sewage, lot 9, for example should
be aware of that also lot 9, riverside ditch goes above
the building site such that we are recommending that
ditch be culvert on lined above that building site so will
not affect the house. Talking about series of easements
gas line etc., talking about sewer easement going
through the Ute Park to the East that has to be coordin-
ated with City Drainage plans off to the mountains which
the applicant is aware of. Talking about putting
hydrants in along interior road system, talking about
bike path that has just been resurveyed as of yesterday
by the County and has not reflected on this preliminary
plat. The applicant has agreed to do that and has no
problem with location.
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RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves
FORM 50 C. F. NOf CK EL B. B.8 1., CO.
Continued Meeting Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission December 2, 1975
Callahan Subdivision Hunt amended his motion to exclude any concern with
(cont'd) water leaving that at the option of the City Council;
seconded by Dobie. All in favor, motion carried.
Hunt moved to adjourn; seconded by Otte. Meeting
adjourned at 9:00 p.m.
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Eliz e h M."Klym,~~ eputy City Clerk