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TO: Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission
FROM: Planning Office (KS)
RE: Baptist Church - Conditional Use
DATE: August 11, 1977
We enclose, for your consideration, a letter from Mr. Joseph E. Edwards,
Jr. recapping the objections to the Baptist Church expansion he expressed
at your August 2nd public hearing. It has been our opinion all along
that if the parking problem could be worked out, the expansion would
be agreeable. We looked to the sporadic nature of the neighborhood
impact and suggested that shared use of off -site parking facilities
might be a good land use solution. However, Mr. Edwards has pointed
out a legal requirement which we missed, that is, that parking equiv-
alent to handle the expansion must be provided on -site. While you
have latitude to determine the amount of spaces necessary for a
church use, we think it is safe to say that the site cannot handle
anywhere near the number of additional spaces which you might require
and that, therefore, the use cannot meet Code requirements and should
be denied. A Code amendment recognizing shared use of parking might
be the only answer.
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FRG11: Planning Office (KS)
RE: Baptist: Church - Conditional Use
DATE: August 11, 1977
We enclose, foryour consideration, a letter from !ir. Joseph E. Edwards,
Jr. recapping the objections to the Baptist Church expansion he expressed
at your August 2nd public hearing. It Has been our opinion all along
that if the parking probl ern could be a;or• ed out, the expansion would
be agreeable. l•:e looked to the sporadic nature of the neighborhood
impact and suggested that shared use of offf-sit:e parking facilities
might be a good land use solution. ftviever, fir. Fd.rards has pointed
out a legal requitement v-hich we missed, that is, that parking equiv-
alent to handle the expansion must be provided on -site. While you
have latitude to deterinine the amount: of spaces nccessary for a
church use, we think it is safe to say that the site cannot handle
an ,vihere near the nuniber of additional spaces r,fhich you might require
and that, therefore; the use cannot nieet Code requirem nt:s and should
be denied. A Code amendment recognizing shared use of parking might
be the only answer.
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August 3, 1977
Aspen'Planning & Zoning Commission
City Hall
130 South. Galena
Aspen, Colorado 81611
Re: Application for. Expansion of. Baptist Church Conditional
Use at Summit and Francis -
Gentlemen:
This letter is just to recap for the record in writing the
comments that I made at the public hearing of August 2nd.
In behalf of the adjacent property owner immediately to the
East of the proposed expanded conditional use, Ns. Naiomi
Reicher,we would object to the proposed expansion.
As. you know, this use is established under Section 24-3.2
of the Code as a conditional use. The R6 zone is primarily
to provide areas for residential purposes and conditional
uses may be allowed upon certain conditions to exist within
the residential. area so long as it does not substantially
adversely impact the basic residential. use. We would submit
that the proposed expansion vhich doubles the square footage
and which proposes to triple the capacity (from 105 to 300)
as well as convert the parsonage to classrooms would be an
expansion of such a quani.ty as to substantially degrade the
basic resi-dential character of the neighborhood.
Also, we note that under Section 24--3.3 of the Zoning Code
that conditional use approval under Subsection (.B)(1) can
only be granted if the proposed use otherwise complies with
all requirements imposed by the Zoning Code. 1•;e further note
that Section 24-4.1(B) provides that if the structure or uses
is enlarged or expanded there shall be provided additional off
street parking for the increment in at least the number of park-
ing spaces that would be required if the inc.r.cmcnt were a separate,
land use. Further, Section 24-4.3 requires that in a residential
area for a use of this type that the parking "must be located on
the same building site as the principle use." It is conceded
that it is a. with you process for your board to determine the
number of additional off street parking spaces that shall be
required, but Section 24-4.6 requires thrit you consider in
making that determination the projected traffic generation of
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that the on site provision of six additional sp ace.:; does;
not be.p.n to meet the addit. i ona 1 ' dc:•rlland g(:!ner. a t-c.c) by thc,
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to 'dater. mi.nc> wiaat. ZMmocant of 'par}:incf woul.cl },c, r.ec;u.i rodfor achurch with a ci.Irar-lCi Ly of200 and to require t1l at those
sracaces be provided on : ite. Since it does not ap,pear that
there is sufficient space on site to meet a .reasonable parking
requirement that, therefore, the proposed expansion cannot
comply with the provisions of the Zoning Code and, therefore,
the application for expansion of this conditional use should
be denied.
Very truly yours,
Joseph E., Edwards, Jr.
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TO: Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission
FROM: Planning Office (I:S)
RE: Jacobie Preliminary Plot - Public'Hearing
DATE: : August 11, 1977
At conceptual stage, we recommended approval subject to detailed
technical review at the preliminary stage. The Planning Office has
received comments from several agencies and suSgests your approval of
the plat subject to the correction of the specified conditions. Those
conditions are as specified in the attached memorandum from the City
Engineer with the additional provision that conditions numbers two
and three regarding utilities be resolved among the applicant, the City
Engineer, Fountain Bell, and Holy Cross Electric. Each of the two
utilities expressed slightly different easement requirements. This
can be resolved prior to final plat.
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JOSEPH E. EDWARDS JR.
ATTORNEY AT LAW
THE WHEELER OPERA HOUSE
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August 3, 1977
Aspen Planning & Zoning Commission
City Hall
130 South Galena
Aspen, Colorado 81611
Re: Application for Expansion of Baptist Church Conditional
Use at Summit and Francis
Gentlemen:
This letter is just to recap for the record in writing the
comments that I made at the public hearing of August 2nd.
In behalf of the adjacent property owner immediately to the
East of the proposed expanded conditional use, Ms. Naiomi
Reicher,we would object to the proposed expansion.
As you know, this use is established under Section 24-3.2
of the Code as a conditional use. The R6 zone is primarily
to provide areas for residential purposes and conditional
uses may be allowed upon certain conditions to exist within
the residential area so long as it does not substantially
adversely impact the basic residential use. We would submit
that the proposed expansion which doubles the square footage
and which proposes to triple the capacity (from 105 to 300)
as well as convert the parsonage to classrooms would be an
expansion of such a quanity as to substantially degrade the
basic residential character of the neighborhood.
Also, we note that under Section 24-3.3 of the Zoning Code
that conditional use approval under Subsection (B)(1) can
only be granted if the proposed use otherwise complies with
all requirements imposed by the Zoning Code. We further note
that Section 24-4.1(B) provides that if the structure or uses
is enlarged or expanded there shall be provided additional off
street parking for the increment in at least the number of park-
ing spaces that would be required if the increment were a separate
land use. Further, Section 24-4.3 requires that in a residential
area for a use of this type that the parking "must be located on
the same building site as the principle use." It is conceded
that it is a with you process for your board to determine the
number of additional off street parking spaces that shall be
required, but Section 24-4.6 requires that you consider in
making that determination the projected traffic generation of
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the proposed development, site characteristics, pedestrian
access to the downtown and availability of public transpor-
tation. We would submit that the proposed expansion of
conditional 200 seating in capacity would generate at least
an additional 70 cars (assuming three people per car) and
that the on site provision of six additional spaces does
not begin to meet the additional demand generated by the
expansion. Therefore, it is incumbent upon the Commission
to determine what amount of parking spaces would be required
for a church with a capacity of 200 and to require that those
spaces be provided on site. Since it does not appear that
there is sufficient space on site to meet a reasonable parking
requirement that, therefore, the proposed expansion cannot
comply with the provisions of the Zoning Code and, therefore,
the application for expansion of this conditional use should
be denied.
Very truly yours,
Joseph E.) Edwards, Jr.
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MEMORANDUM
TO: Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission
FROM: Planning Office (KS)
RE: Baptist Church Expansion - Conditional Use Hearing
DATE: July 28, 1977
This is an application by the Baptist Church located at 7th and Hallam
Street to expand the Church facility (by adding seating capacity and
classroom space). A total of about 3,000 square feet, including base-
ment, is to be added. Since churches are a conditional use in R-6,
the expansion requires a conditional use hearing.
The proposal involves structural modification of an existing church building
connecting it with the parsonage and converting its use to classroom
space. The proposal therefore allows the church not only to accommodate
the overflow of persons attending church services, but also affords
more meeting space for ongoing activities such as Sunday classes,
Pioneer Girls, expectant mothers, and weight -watchers.
Because of the residential nature of the surrounding area, parking
becomes a key issue of potentially great impact. The proposal here
adds 6 parking spaces in the back off the alley and about 10 spaces
on City land on 7th and Hallam Street if cars are parked perpendicularly,
(14,18 cars were previously accommodated) twenty five cars are accom-
modated on U.S.F.S. property. While the parking is still insufficient
to meet the demand at peak times on Sunday morning, ov.erflow onto the
neighborhood streets is acceptable if it only occurs at the infrequent
interval of once a week.
What would be unacceptable in terms of parking impact, would be increas-
ing use of the Church for meetings with a hundred or so people in
attendance throughout the week. We do not belive that is the case at
the current time and suggest that the applicant provide information
concerning typical existing and projected daily use.
Given assurances that the church will not become a daily high activity
facility, we recommend approval of the Conditional Use subject to the
Church's commitment to organize its parking in the manner shown on the
attached plans and subject to the Cicy Engineer's approval of same.
The Church does not exceed the 1:1 floor area or maximum height limits
and therefore complies with those relevant portions of the Code.
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RE: First Baptist Church
NEEDS
The present church building was constructed in 1957 at 7th and
Francis Streets and has a sanctuary pew seating capacity of 102.
During 1976 average attendance at a single service was 117, with
twice that number on special occasions. (See page LAB.) 1977 has
been somewhat higher. Therefore an expanded building has become
an urgent need.
PROPOSAL
Phase I. Expand basement classroom and main floor sanctuary 32
feet northward toward alley, increasing sanctuary seating to 210
and giving an enlarged fellowship hall below. The 5775 sq. ft.
existing church and parsonage plus new Phase I of about 2760 sq. ft.
gives a net of 8535 sq. ft. We anticipate this to be adequate for
5-10 years. (See page iLA.)
Phase II. If the church continues to grow, expand sanctuary
westward to present limits of parsonage (removing parsonage). This
would give an "L" shaped sanctuary with a capacity of 354 and
increased basement classroom area. The new, larger west wing has
the ability to convert to a half-court'tymnatorium" by closing a
partition in front of the chancel. Net increase of about 1100 sq. ft.
gives 9635 sq. ft. total +.
SITE CONSIDERATIONS
By building close to the alley and in an "L" shape we leave the
corner as open space,as a public amenity,and as a gesture of invita-
tion to the street. The main entrance would be at the corner of
the "L" and facing the intersection.
Area and bulk requirements in the R-6 zone are F.A.R. 1:1 and
maximum height 25.' A church may exceed one, but not both, of these
limits. Our Phase 11 contemplates exceeding the F.A.R. by about 7%.
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Presently parking is pull -off parking on the 20-foot strip of
graveled land between street and lot line on City property. In
this fashion 14-18 cars are accommodated with about 25 additional
cars in the same pull -off fashion across 7th Street, adjacent
to U.S. Forest Service land. The remainder of cars park parallel
on 7th and Francis Streets. (The Baptist Church, like Aspen's two
largest churches, St. Mary's and the Community Church, has no
off-street parking.)
On Sunday morning peak useage occurs,with a secondary peak on
Sunday evening. Happily, both of these are at times of low city
traffic. Also, the U.S. Forest Service land which occupies half
of Blocks 9 and 10 to the west is an open space and storage/pasture
area which presently generates no weekend traffic or parking.
NEIGHBORS AND USERS
The church is interdenominational in nature with people of varied
Protestant, Catholic and Jewish backgrounds. The name 'Baptist'
is in some ways an anachronism, but no satisfactory new name has
been found. Besides Sunday and Wednesday services, the fellowship
hall is used on a regular basis for small community groups such
as expectant mothers, weight -watchers, etc.
The half -court ''gymatorium'' would provide a needed community
facility and this is an idea which the church likes. However, it
would also increase weeknight trafficand activity in the area,
which some residents may object to. Therefore, we invite comment
and response on this optional feature of our plan.
David F. Gibson, Architect
520 E. Cooper Avenue
Aspen, Colorado 81611
July 14, 1977
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RE: Baptist Church Expansion --Conditional Use Permit
HISTORY
The present building was constructed in 1957. The
sanctuary holds 17 pews, each 10 ft. long, which seat
102 people. Attendance at a single service usually
surpasses this number, resulting in crowded and
unsafe conditions. Average attendance during 1976
was 117. Average attendance to date in 1977 has been
145. The church urgently needs to expand.
PROPOSAL
Expand the existing building north toward the alley
and along the sides, connecting it with the parsonage
which will be used for classrooms. About 3000 sq. ft.
increase, including basement.
SITE CONSIDERATIONS
The 90' X 100' site, containing the church and
parsonage is a corner lot at 7th and Francis. To
the west is land owned by the Forest Service which
is mostly open space, including a pasture, equip-
ment building, and Forest Service Office. This land
occupies most of two blocks and is not likely to be
developed in the near or distant future. The remaining
surroundings blocks are residential detached frame
dwellings.
Area and bulk requirements in the R-6 zone are F.A.R.
1:1 and maximum height 25 feet. A church may exceed
one, but not both of these. However, the proposed
expansion will exceed neither.
The corner facing the intersection will remain open as
open space.
PARKING
The site is one block north of Highway 82, a main artery.
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RE: Baptist Church
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Presently cars park in a pull -off fashion on the 20-foot
strip of city property between the street and lot lines.
Twenty-eight cars can be accommodated. In addition, 25
cars park in the same pull -off fashion on the west side
of 7th Street adjacent to Forest Service land. The
Forest Service has consented to this arrangement provided
that access is maintained at the gate for fire vehicles.
The expansion will create 6 new spaces on church property
along the alley. Spill -over parking is on surrounding
streets. Fortunately, peak use occurs Sunday morning when
traffic is light.
SM. P4ARY
The church is a vital, healthy, and growing part of
our community. It is interdemoninational in spirit,
with members who are mostly young, single and of varied
Judaeo-Christian backgrounds. Besides Wednesday and
Sunday services, the fellowship hall is used regularly
by such groups as Pioneer Girls, expectant mothers,
weight -watchers, etc. The church is an asset to the
neighborhood and community and should be allowed to
expand.
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M E M O R A N D U M
TO: Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission
FROM: Planning Office (KS)
RE: Baptist Church Expansion - Conditional Use Hearing
DATE: July 28, 1977
This is an application by the Baptist Church located at 7th and Hallam
Street to expand the Church facility (by adding seating capacity and
classroom space). A total of about 3,000 square feet, including base-
ment, is to be added. Since churches are a conditional use in R-6,
the expansion requires a conditional use hearing.
The proposal involves structural modification of an existing church building
connecting it with the parsonage and converting its use to classroom
space. The proposal therefore allows the church not only to accommodate
the overflow of persons attending church services, but also affords
more meeting space for ongoing activities such as Sunday classes,
Pioneer Girls, expectant mothers, and weight -watchers.
Because of the residential nature of the surrounding area, parking
becomes a key issue of potentially great impact. The proposal here
adds 6 parking spaces in the back off the alley and about 10 spaces
on City land on 7th and Hallam Street if cars are parked perpendicularly,
(14.�18 cars were previously accommodated) twenty five cars are accom-
modated on U.S.F.S. property. While the parking is still insufficient
to meet the demand at peak times on Sunday morning, overflow onto the
neighborhood streets is acceptable if it only occurs at the infrequent
interval of once a week.
What would be unacceptable in terms of parking impact, would be increas-
ing use of the Church for meetings with a hundred or so people in
attendance throughout the week. We do not belive that is the case at
the current time and suggest that the applicant provide information
concerning typical existing and projected daily use.
Given assurances that the church will not become a daily high activity
facility, we recommend approval of the Conditional Use subject to the
Church's commitment to organize its parking in the manner shown on the
attached plans and subject to the City Engineer's approval of same.
The Church does not exceed the 1:1 floor area or maximum height limits
and therefore complies with those relevant portions of the Code.
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TO: Planning Office
RE: Baptist Church Expansion --Conditional Use Permit
HISTORY
The present building was constructed in 1957. The
sanctuary holds 17 pews, each 10 ft. long, which seat
102 people. Attendance at a single service usually
surpasses this number, resulting in crowded and
unsafe conditions. Average attendance during 1976
was 117. Average attendance to date in 1977 has been
145. The church urgently needs to expand.
DpnPnCA T.
Expand the existing building north toward the alley
and along the sides, connecting it with the parsonage
which will be used for classrooms. About 3000 sq. ft.
increase, including basement.
SITE CONSIDERATIONS
The 90' X 100' site, containing the church and
parsonage is a corner lot at 7th and Francis. To
the west is land owned by the Forest Service which
is mostly open space, including a pasture, equip-
ment building, and Forest Service Office. This land
occupies most of two blocks and is not likely to be
developed in the near or distant future. The remaining
surroundings blocks are residential detached frame
dwellings.
Area and bulk requirements in the R-6 zone are F.A.R.
1:1 and maximum height 25 feet. A church may exceed
one, but not both of these. However, the proposed
expansion will exceed neither.
The corner facing the intersection will remain open as
open space.
PARKING
The site is one block north of Highway 82, a main artery.
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RE: Baptist Church
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Presently cars park in a pull -off fashion on the 20-foot
strip of city property between the street and lot lines.
Twenty-eight cars can be accommodated. In addition, 25
cars park in the same pull -off fashion on the west side
of 7th Street adjacent to Forest Service land. The
Forest Service has consented to this arrangement provided
that access is maintained at the gate for fire vehicles.
The expansion will create 6 new spaces on church property
along the alley. Spill -over parking is on surrounding
streets. Fortunately, peak use occurs Sunday morning when
traffic is light.
ST, PIARY
The church is a vital, healthy, and growing part of
our community. It is interdemoninational in spirit,
with members who are mostly young, single and of varied
Judaeo-Christian backgrounds. Besides Wednesday and
Sunday services, the fellowship hall is used regularly
by such groups as Pioneer Girls, expectant mothers,
weight -watchers, etc. The church is an asset to the
neighborhood and community and should be allowed to
expand.
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PUBLIC NOTICE
Public Notice is hereby given that a public hearing will
be held before the Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission on August 2, 1977,
in the City Council Chambers at a meeting beginning at 5:00 PM to
consider the application of the Baptist Church for conditional use
approval. The proposal of the Baptist Church is to expand the church
basement and sanctuary by about 3000 square feet. Copies of the appli-
cation may be reviewed at the Planning Office in City Hall, 925-2020.
Published in the Aspen Times Thursday, July 28, 1977.
/s/ Kathryn S. Hauter
City Clerk
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Regular Meeting
Planning and
Zoning
Commission August 16, 1977
The Planning and Zoning Commission held a regular meeting on August 16, 1977,
at 5:20 PM in the City Council Chambers. Members present were Chic Collins,
Olaf Hedstrom, Donald Ensign, Joan Klar, Frank Baranko and Tom Isaac. Also
present from the Planning Office were Karen Smith, Bill Kane and John Stanford.
Frank Baranko moved to approve the minutes of 9 August 1977,
seconded by Ensign. All in favor; minutes passed.
Baptist Church Karen Smith discussed the Baptist Church conditional use.
conditional The biggest question is about parking. Additional parking
use must be located on the original property. The only latitude
is in the amount of additional parking.
David Gibson, architect for the Baptist Church project, said
that the purpose of expanding the church is to handle the
existing problem of overcrowding. If the parking problem
only occurs for 2 hours one day a week, then this is not
really a problem. This parking requirement would eliminate
churches from downtown Aspen. Churches should not be put in
a class with commercial enterprises. The normal use is one
minister, one secretary and one assistant minister and
one or two visitors which would be 5 or 6 cars at the most.
This deserves your support since churches are a healthy part
of a community.
Collins said he had reviewed the zone requirements for off
street parking. Parking is determined by review by this
commission for this use. On Sunday Collins inspected the
area during the time of the 8:00 and 11:00 service. The
parking was moderate to heavy. There was plenty of parking
on the street and across 7th Avenue. Isaac said that he
inspected at the 11:00 service. The parking was heavy.
Isaac was against the approach taken by the Church. A trans-
portation plan could be presented which would alleviate the
problem. People could be bused.
Spalding, from the church, said they had just bought a
bus. Holloway, from the church, wondered if the parishioners
could park near the duck pond on Cemetery Lane and be picked
up there. The Institute has offered a sympathetic reply, but
not a definite yes. Then there is City parking. Isaac told
them to make a plan and bring it back.
Smith said that a clarification of required parking is
needed. Shared use should be encouraged since it is a better
land use. The code does not recognize this problem.
Collins said it is such a low use frequency that the abundance
of on street parking could be used on nearby streets. It
is not a strong impact.
Klar suggested that the expanded size of the church might
increase the use of the church. Spalding said that it was
unlikely.
Baranko and Ensign felt that the Baptist Church should submit
a transportation proposal. Smith said that any motion to
approve their conditional sue should state that there would
be no additional parking requirements. Dave Ellis is against
parallel parking on 7th Street. It was decided to make a
motion and not bring it back to the Commission and let the
Planning Office handle the parking problem.
Hedstrom moved to approve the conditional use expansion of
the Baptist Church as proposed on 28 July 1977 for an addition
of 3,000 square feet in view of the opinion of this commission
that the proposed on site parking will be adequate and subject
Regular Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission August 16, 1977
to the condition that transportation for church attendance
will be provided so that parking in the neighborhood will
not be aggrevated by future growth and that the transportation
plan will be acceptable to the Planning Office and the City
Engineer. Ensign seconded the motion. All in favor; motion
passed.
Condominiumi- Bill Kane capsulized the condominiumization policy for the
zation Policy new members. City Council requested that P&Z make a policy.
Brian Goodheim prepared a lengthy report based on rental
units which were condominiumized. The conclusion was that
the buyers were local residents. Condominiumization does
displace a certain number of people who are only able to
rent. Goodheim's memo suggests a list of guidelines.
Goodheim said that the bad effects of condominiumization
are inflation and displacement. The City should guard against
destruction of the rental market. 40-60 percent of rental
housing is rented to employees. The lack of substantial
growth due to the GMP will increase pressure on the rental
market. There should be a generalized long term policy like
sell a certain number of condominiums to employers for rental
to employees.
Ensign wondered what kind of guarantees there would be that
the price of the condominium would not go up if it was sold
to an employer. Goodheim suggested a deed covenant. The
condition of the load if the condominium is sold within a
certain amount of time could be to return a certain amount
of money to the housing authority. It would be nice to see
more creative solutions established by the condominiumizer.
Price controls would leave no incentive for someone to buy
the unit. Baranko said that the right of first refusal does
not mean anything.
Leonard Oates, attorney, said that the P&Z does not have the
right to be concerned with controlling effects. There is
no authority. If P&Z monkies around with the market value
of property, then they are in effect condemning the property
and would have to pay the owner the market value. Collins
said that the possibilities are just being explored. Oates
said that P&Z was starting at the wrong end. Gideon Kauffman,
attorney, said that practicality is the first concern. The
implementation of these ideas is far in the future. There is
no formula, no housing authority. People are being kept
waiting while these ideas are being discussed. When you come
up with proposals which are legal, then we will implement
them. Smith said that there were two multi family condominiums
awaiting approval now.
Ensign wondered what the present policy was. Kane said for
a multi family condominiumization there must be a six month
minimum lease requirement, the right of first refusal and
a review of the proposed sale price.
Oates said that the question is whether or not anything should
be done as opposed to what should be done.
Alan Shaffer, landowner, stated he hated any price control
on land. It creates less than a free market. An artificial
shortage has been created, now P&Z wants to tell people
what to do with their property. It is a terrible thing. There
are other ways to create needed housing. There are too many
variables in controlling housing. There is nothing wrong
with maximizing profits. The community has to pay for housing
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