HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.council.20010227Continued Meeting Aspen City Council February 27, 2001
Mayor Richards called to order the continued meeting at 5:00 p.m. with
Councilmembers Hershey, McCabe, Markalunas and Paulson present.
ORDINANCE #10, SERIES OF 2001
- Historic Preservation Strategy
Julie Ann Woods, community development department, said the intent of
this ordinance is to allow staff to work with HPC, the public and the
consultant to come up with more clear criteria for evaluating properties to be
placed on or taken off the inventory. Ms. Woods said this will allow time to
develop code amendment and incentives. Councilman Markalunas
questioned the need for an emergency ordinance. Councilman Markalunas
said there are no HPC representatives. If this deals with the HPC process,
Council should have some input from HPC members. Ms. Woods said the
emergency ordinance status is a recommendation from the city attorney to
allow the HPC to go into hearings this week.
Mayor Richards reminded Council they held a work session with HPC and
the new consultant and this was the recommended course. This will give
staff time from reviewing caseload request for delisting from the inventory.
John Worcester, city attorney, said staff's concern is that they would be
spending all their time dealing with appeals when they do not have the right
standards as to what should be on the inventory and what should not.
Worcester said that is why he suggested this be an emergency ordinance.
Councilman Markalunas said he would like to hear from some HPC
members before he votes on this.
Mayor Richards opened the public hearing. There were no comments.
Mayor Richards closed the public hearing.
Councilman McCabe moved to table Ordinance #10, Series of 2001, to the
end of the meeting; seconded by Councilman Paulson. All in favor, motion
carried.
Councilman McCabe moved to continue the meeting to 6:30 p.m.; seconded
by Councilman Markalunas. All in favor, motion carried.
Council reconvened at 6:45 p.m. with Councilmembers McCabe, Paulson,
Markalunas, and Hershey present.
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ORDINANCE #6, SERIES OF 2001
- Conceptual and Final PUD Iselin
Park
Joyce Ohlson, community development department, told Council the growth
management commission recommended approval that Council exempt this
project as an essential public facility. The GM Commission attached
conditions to that recommendation. Ms. Ohlson presented a revised
Ordinance #6 including those conditions agreed upon with the County
Commissioners in section 3.
Staff presented written answers to the questions from last night's meeting
and a pro forma of expenditures and operating costs. Ed Sadler, asset
manager, noted that adequacy of parking was raised by a number of people.
Staff feels the parking is adequate for 90% of the time. Staff feels
enforcement will help promote mass transit. Sadler said Tiehack is available
during the day only for public parking to access public lands. Sadler said
evening parking at Tiehack would necessitate changes to the PUD. Sadler
said the main use for the Tiehack parking will be for ballfield and soccer
games. These are not lit fields and games will not take place at night.
Mayor Richards suggested that the city put into the intergovernmental
agreement that the school will not be able to take their parking away from
the city's use without replacement.
Sadler said moving the Maroon Creek road pedestrian bridge was brought
up. Staff wants the bridge to be at the closest place to the school. Originally
the bridge was located farther down the road towards the roundabout; the
city's consultant recommended it be moved up to eliminate taking shortcuts
across Maroon Creek. The bridge also directs traffic to the front of the
building; it gives better line of sight.
Sadler said the lighting for safety for the pedestrian bridge will come with
approval of the project. Sadler said paid parking is an option to consider by
Council. Councilman Markalunas asked how much the increased
enforcement for the area will cost. Mayor Richards said additional police
protection was taken into account when the city annexed Aspen Highlands.
Councilman Markalunas said if the city is going to enter into an IGA with
the school and county, there has to be some funding for this enforcement.
Tim Ware, parking department, said until it is determined how many entities
are part of the IGA, costs are unknown. Randy Ready, assistant city
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manager, said when cars are ticketed and towed, this will pay for itself. The
desire is to have the degree of non-compliance of parking regulations go
down with enforcement. Councilman Markalunas said public transport
should be convenient and inexpensive and private transport should be
expensive and inconvenient. Steve Barwick, city manager, pointed out the
agreement states that the "city shall be responsible for all parking
enforcement issues that are associated with the newly developed Iselin
recreational facility". Barwick stated the city is not responsible for the
parking problems on the entire road.
Sadler said calling this a "pool/ice" facility or a "recreation" facility is a
matter of semantics. Sadler told Council this has been a long public process,
starting before the bond issue. There was a feasibility study done in
preparation for the bond issue. There have been small fundraising meetings,
neighborhood meetings, P&Z meetings and Council meetings.
Sadler said an issue brought up last night was the number of lifeguards
required. The state requirement is 1 lifeguard for 50 swimmers. The pool
staff uses a ratio of 1:25. Staff plans on having 4 to 7 guards on duty.
Sadler said these employee figures were given to the housing authority in
figuring out affordable housing mitigation. Sadler reminded Council staff
visited various facilities to see what works best, what sells best, what people
enjoy, what people would do differently. Sadler said this facility is confined
by money and by space. Staff feels this will please the majority of the
people.
Sadler said there are 275 lockers planned for the pool in addition to the
family changing room. Sadler said staff has given Council letters from
CHSSA, US Swimming and other parties. There are no set requirements.
Staff feels there is adequate space around the pool for the type of meets that
would be held here. There is a 1 meter diving board; there will not be high
diving.
Councilman Markalunas said he was disappointed to learn it is not practical
to take energy from the ice making and apply it to heating the pool.
Paul Anseeuw, Keen Engineering the city's mechanical consultant, told
Council his firm is one of the leaders in sustainable design. Anseeuw said
they have had a number of discussions with CORE on what is appropriate
for this project. Anseeuw said some green issues in this building did not
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come out immediately. One green initiative incorporated in the design is the
high efficiency condensing boilers, which will get the efficiency of a natural
gas boiler up to 95%. This will save 169 tons per year of CO2 reductions.
Anseeuw said there are variable speed drives in the changing rooms to
optimize changing air. This will have a 2.3 year payback High efficiency
motors have been incorporated. Anseeuw said the micro turbine is a way of
creating green power, taking the waste heat off the micro turbine so that it is
reused by the boiler hearing system.
Anseeuw said they included an ozone system for the air and water quality.
Another benefit is that the humidity and temperature can be controlled.
Anseeuw said the waste heat off the compressors will be used as
snowmelting and will also be used to heat the under slab and to pre-heat
water tanks. Anseeuw said his company analyzed heat recovery in the pool
and when used with dry air in this area and the power source in this area, a
refrigerated heat recovery system does save energy, does have a payback;
however, it does not reduce the greenhouse gas emissions so it has not been
included.
Anseeuw said they are still discussing with CORE including solar in this
facility. Mayor Richards asked what it could cost to take advantage of solar
capture. Anseeuw said there is not a payback, but as a statement of green
design and good power, this is being investigated. Councilman Paulson
asked the possibility of including some of these solar things this far into the
process. Anseeuw said there are some possibilities but the cost will have to
be looked at.
Councilman Paulson said if this facility is not paying for itself in the future
and the Council has to go to the electorate to approve a tax increase or has to
pass a rate increase, it will be an injustice to populace. Councilman Paulson
said energy costs will only keep going up. Councilman Paulson said he has
a checklist from LEAD on how sustainable design one's building is.
Councilman Paulson said he would like this building rated by this checklist.
Councilman Paulson said he would like future projects be scored and meet a
minimum requirement on this LEAD checklist. Anseeuw said this is a good
tool as a guide; however, one needs to apply green building standards prior
to starting a project. Anseeuw noted this building is very green for the type
of structure it is.
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Councilman McCabe said the city is doing a study to see how sustainable
design can be integrated into the building codes. Stephen Kanipe, building
official, told Council this does exist for the affordable housing projects.
Anseeuw pointed out the city of Seattle adopted a guideline that all new
civic buildings would target silver standard on the LEAD checklist.
Councilman Paulson said there is no renewable energy in this building.
Councilman Paulson suggested any money saved with green in this building
be earmarked to purchase future renewable energy, like wind power or
hydro, so the city can keep increasing their use of renewable energy.
Anseeuw said some of the initiatives in the building with an X payback, that
money be reinvested in renewable energy. Mayor Richards said this concept
is too vague right now. This should be up to future Councils. Mayor
Richards said money saved should be invested in the building to add energy
saving items to the building.
Mayor Richards asked if there were items taken out of this plan that would
give significant energy savings in the building and that are not too late to
add back in. Anseeuw said two examples are solar panels and refrigerated
heat recovery plant. Anseeuw told Council solar panels in today's market
will never have a life cycle payback; energy is too cheap. Solar power for
a building like this is a 25-year payback. Sadler said because of the
orientation of the building, the solar value is diminished.
Anseeuw said a refrigerated heat recovery system for the pool was not
implemented. That is putting a cooling coil in the return air from the pool
building, takes the moist air out. It's a very efficient cycle. There is a life
cycle payback. The capital cost is $90,000 and the payback is 6 to 7 years;
however, the electricity even at 1 kilowatt compared to doing the same thing
with the efficient boiler shows in the greenhouse gas analysis that there was
no advantage. This would have saved energy and saved some reduction in
operating costs but it is not improving sustainable or green design.
Bossart told Council Anseeuw put together a list of items for staff to analyze
with CORE, looking for the most efficient ways to accomplish the goals of
the project. Bossart said one thing CORE recommended is daylighting in
the ice rink and in the pool. The costs for this are $80,000. Bossart said
there are no skylights that can survive long under freeze/thaw situations.
This also is negative in putting sunlight on the ice surface, which means the
system has to work harder to keep the ice surface. Bossart said staff elected
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to skate under lights. Mayor Richards agreed this project is full of trade offs
on what works well and what is not worth the investment. Bossart noted a
recreation center is one of the hardest buildings to make energy efficient.
Councilman Paulson asked if the janitor is working all night, will this affect
the neighbors. Bossart said the city's lighting consultants, Rising Sun, can
light a work area so that the lighting cannot be seen from outside.
Councilman Paulson asked how physical therapy will work in the pool. Tim
Anderson, recreation director, said the city will be able to schedule physical
therapy. The therapists want to be able to work with the city on specific
types of water therapy.
Councilman Paulson asked the time line for the outside pools. Mayor
Richards noted there is no money for the outside pools. The city has used
general fund extra contributions to this project through 2002. Mayor
Richards said this is a decision for future Councils and whether they want to
use general funds for the swimming pool. Sadler said this is built to deal
with outdoor pool expansion; the space is there, it is stubbed in.
Councilman Paulson asked if the glass is triple pane. Bossart said this glass
is insulated low E value, cold coated, light tint, and controlled spectrum
glass.
Councilman Markalunas asked about the impact of the tower on the view up
towards Pyramid Peak. Councilman Markalunas asked if there is a drawing
of the tower with the mountains in the background. Mayor Richards said the
height of the tower and the additional 10 feet of distance on the lap pool
deck are two outstanding issues Council needs to discuss.
Mayor Richards re-opened the public hearing.
Toni Kronberg said the perception is that she has been against the project.
Ms. Kronberg said she is not against the project and wants to see it built to
meet the needs of the community. Ms. Kronberg said she has 25 years of
swim teaching experience in Aspen. Ms. Kronberg said the only pool she is
requesting is a warm water pool with a deep end, which has not been
addressed. Ms. Kronberg stated that kind of pool will make this facility
succeed. Ms. Kronberg said the warm water pool will only be 4 feet deep.
Ms. Kronberg said adults need a deep warm water pool. Ms. Kronberg said
the project has been pulled together except for deep water.
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Larry Slater asked what happens at this facility in the event of a power
failure at this facility. Mayor Richards said there are emergency backup
lights. Slater asked if the elevator goes all the way to the storage room
below the ice. Mayor Richards said it only goes to where people need to
get; it is 3 levels. Slater said he is very concerned about the energy
efficiency of the building. Slater showed the view that will be eliminated by
the tower.
Ms. Kronberg said there has never been a high school swim team and this is
being designed for a high school team. Ms. Kronberg said she wants to
preserve the right of the team that has already used the pool, and the
Ordinance should be changed to say Colorado swimming. Ms. Kronberg
said if a feasibility study had been done, a deep end in the warm water pool
would be included. Ms. Kronberg encouraged Council to vote for this.
Mayor Richards closed the public
One outstanding issue is the pool deck, the resolution states this will be
changed to a minimum of 10 feet. Mayor Richards said this is beyond what
is needed. Mayor Richards recommended staying with the current design
that meets the current high school meet standards. Bossart said the
regulations between CHSSA and NCAA and US Swimming are almost
identical. Bossart told Council there is 8 feet on the end of the pools from
water to the wall and 10 feet on one side and 12 feet on the other.
Councilman Paulson asked why there is a concern about 10 feet. Ms.
Ohlson said at the P&Z public hearing there was testimony indicating from a
practical perspective there is a stacking of swimmers and P&Z
recommended a little more space be appropriate. Councilmembers all
favored removing #13; condition #14 requires consistency with CHSSA and
will remain in the ordinance.
The next issue is the height of the tower. Mayor Richards suggested keeping
the current design. The tower is a symbol of pride in the building. The city
should not try and make all the public buildings invisible. Councilman
McCabe said a lower tower would be less space to heat and to cool, less
finished material would be needed. Councilman McCabe said there is a
trade off in the energy required as the tower space is useful from heating and
cooling aspects of the building. Anseeuw said more skin is more heat loss;
however, the strategy of the high tower space is that there is no cooling, no
fans. The building is entirely naturally ventilated, squishing the height is
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going in the wrong direction for a green piece of the building. Anseeuw
noted a trade off in projects without mechanical refrigeration is the transfer
of money from mechanical ductwork and refrigeration to building shape and
volume.
Councilman Paulson asked about this in the winter as the chimney will take
all the heat out of the building. Anseeuw said the strategy will be to reverse
the stratified heat that rises and bring it to the lower level with circulating
fans. Councilman Paulson asked if this was a private development with this
amount of glass in a commercial building, how would a developer be
allowed to mitigate the extra glass. Kanipe said it is not just the amount of
glass. Staff looks at the entire function of the building and use DOE's
standards for commercial energy use.
Councilman Hershey agreed this building needs a presence and given that
the tower is also functional, he leans toward the 58 feet height. Councilman
McCabe agreed based on staff input and the research. Mayor Richards said
she feels the daylighting of this structure is very important.
Councilmembers Hershey, McCabe, Markalunas and Mayor Richards favor
the tower as designed; Councilman Paulson opposed.
Mayor Richards said a condition should be added to direct staff to continue
to work with CORE, to look for energy efficiency throughout the building,
particularly the solar power gains versus cost, make this a thorough
investigation including taking the request for the REMP funds to the CORE
board, letting them weigh that against other areas where they might be able
to spend the funds for a greater bang for the buck, or what it would cost the
city to do out of general funds, bring those costs back to Council in a timely
fashion as the foundational work is being done and there still would be the
ability to add solar onto the roof, and that it is Council's direction as a whole
to continue to vigorously pursue what other additional measures can be put
into this. Council agreed with this statement.
Mayor Richards said the last is the is depth or redesign of a warm water pool
with a deep end. Mayor Richards said she has heard from a lot of people on
this project. The facility cannot be all things to all people. There are
therapy pools at other facilities in the community. The city is not trying to
duplicate the existing facilities. Mayor Richards said she is not in favor of
redesigning the pool. Many people took part in this design and
representatives of the swim community have endorsed this plan.
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Councilman McCabe said his original position was that this should be 100%
recreation pool with no lap pools. Councilman McCabe supports the design
as presented. Councilman Markalunas said 4 feet seems a little shallow;
however, he defers to pool experts. Councilman Markalunas said he will go
with the design as presented.
Jackie Broughton told Council she feels the 4 foot depth meets the needs of
the community. Ms. Broughton said a greater depth is difficult for therapy
and if there is too much depth behind the water, it is hard to walk against.
Ms. Broughton said she feels the proposal will be great for everyone.
Councilman Hershey said he is not a pool expert and supports the project as
presented by staff. Councilman Paulson supports the project although he
would have like the diving off to the side. Councilman Paulson said there
are space considerations that not everything everyone wants can fit.
Councilman Paulson said his concern is that this project is something the
city can look back on with pride.
Ms. Ohlson told Council the GM Commission had a resolution with
conditions. The different conditions are (1) a biannual parking review is
conducted. Staff feels this is a good idea and the parking review should be
conducted at the 2 and 4 year points Council agreed to add this condition.
Mayor Richards asked if Council needs to adopt all the conditions the GM
Commission adopted. Worcester said no, their resolution is a
recommendation to Council, who can adopt all or none of the conditions.
Sadler pointed out there is a GM Commission condition stating if the
approval was not passed in total, they rescind their approval. Worcester said
the GM Commission made a recommendation of approval with certain
conditions. Council can accept or reject one, all or none of the
recommendations.
Mayor Richards said she does not want the city to agree to overkill
measures. Worcester suggested #10 read, "the applicant will implement
applicable and reasonable parking and transportation management strategies
outlined in the Charlier report". Councilman McCabe said Council cannot
anticipate problems that may arise, that they cannot solve quickly but could
solve in the long term. Council agreed with that language.
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Barwick pointed out #6, section 3, 2B, "city shall either reach an agreement
with the county for the cost of maintaining Maroon Creek road or annexing
Maroon Creek road". Barwick said Council is not intending to maintain or
to annex all of Maroon Creek road from the roundabout up to Maroon Bells.
Barwick said this should be the section of Maroon creek road from the
roundabout to Iselin. Council agreed to "between the roundabout and Iselin
park parking lot". Worcester said he represented to the GM Committee that
Council agreed to this. Councilman McCabe asked what standard will be
used. Worcester said this will be negotiated with the county. Mayor
Richards suggested the southernmost boundary of Iselin park. Randy
Ready, assistant city manager pointed out this leaves Council the options of
annexing or negotiating on maintenance.
Mayor Richards suggested this go to the end of the city property, the
boundary at the tennis courts. Ready said he was trying to cover the
boundary of the impact, cars will be turning into the parking lot. Council
agreed to southernmost boundary of Iselin Park.
Councilman Hershey said in the future this will be one of the greatest
legacies of this Council.
Councilman Hershey moved to adopt Ordinance #6, Series of 2001, as
reflected by the amendments above, on second reading; seconded by Mayor
Richards.
Councilman Markalunas said auto congestion will be a problem and will
have to be dealt with. The city needs to implement a plan with an IGA.
Councilman McCabe said he is glad the city found money to study the
feasibility of adding ice to this facility and that the private sector has been
working with the city on this facility. The youth center has also been
included in this facility.
Mayor Richards thanked Jackie Broughton and L.J. Erspamer for their help
on this project over the years. Mayor Richards said this will be a fantastic
facility, a place of joy.
Roll call vote; Councilmembers Markalunas, yes; McCabe, yes; Paulson,
yes; Hershey, yes; Mayor Richards, yes. Motion carried.
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ORDINANCE #10, SERIES OF 2001
- Historic Preservation Strategy
Councilman Hershey said staff spoke to Suzannah Reid, Gilbert Sanchez,
Susan Dodington and Melanie Roschko who said they supported this
ordinance. Staff could not reach Jeffrey Halferty, Rally Dupps. Lisa
Markalunas is present at this meeting.
Mayor Richards opened the public hearing.
John Worcester, city attorney, reminded Council the land use code deals
with the inventory. This ordinance suspends the operation of that section;
any actions to put people on the inventory or take people off the inventory is
suspended for six months. The purpose of this action is to allow staff to try
and come up with standards, procedures, and incentives and to look at the
entire historic inventory section of the code. The reason for the emergency
ordinance is if this went through the normal channels, people would get into
the appeals process and staff and Council would be dealing with the appeals
rather than the larger issues. Mayor Richards said she thought the consensus
from Council's meeting with HPC and the consultant was to take time to
refine the code and give the HPC more strength and more objective criteria
and understanding of the community support.
Lisa Markalunas said she does not disagree with Ordinance #10 but does
disagree with the emergency ordinance process. Ms. Markalunas said no
one on the HPC was aware this would be adopted in two nights. Ms.
Markalunas said HPC has asked to speed up the process on some things and
has always been told they need to stick to the process. Ms. Markalunas
noted HPC has taken a lot of pressure for procedural things. Worcester told
Council staff has notified all 17 applicants who are waiting to get off the
inventory. Ms. Markalunas said she does not have a problem with Council
passing this ordinance; however, she wanted to express displeasure at the
process. Councilman McCabe said Council should not do this to HPC again.
Mayor Richards suggested a letter of explanation and apology to the HPC
members go out as soon as possible.
Mayor Richards closed the public hearing.
Councilman Markalunas moved to adopt Ordinance #10, Series of 2001, on
second reading; seconded by Councilman McCabe. Roll call vote;
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Councilmembers Hershey, yes; McCabe, yes; Paulson, yes; Markalunas,
yes; Mayor Richards, yes. Motion carried
Councilman Markalunas moved to adjourn at 9:10 p.m.; seconded by
Councilman Hershey. All in favor, motion carried.
Kathryn S. Koch, City Clerk
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