HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.apz.19840807 RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
Regular Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission August 7, 1984
Chairman Perry Harvey called the meeting to order at 5: 05 n.m. with
commissioners Jasmine T_ygre, Welton Anderson, Lee Pardee , David
White, Roger Hunt, and Mary Peyton present.
COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS
Hunt complained about a storage shed moved east of 506 West Hallam
a few years ago. The shed is dilapidated. flow did the owners
get a permit to move the storage shed? It may now be located on
Lou Deane ' s property. It was moved by Frank Christopher, resident
of 506 Ylest Hallam. Can people just move a shed onto a piece of
property?
(Lee Pardee arrives in the chambers. )
Alan Richman, planning office, answered if the shed is an accessory
structure that meets the setbacks it is allowed by right .
Building regulations treat structures which are uninhabited
differently from those structures which are inhabited. He suggested
talking to Jim Wilson about condemning the shed if the shed is a
public nuisance or a public danger. If the shed is simply ugly
and is uninhabited they, there is little that can be done. Zoning
and building codes are based on public health, safety and welfare.
Aesthetics are only a consideration for an historical question or
sign question.
Hunt said then under the code anyone can move any kind of shack
on any kind of piece of property in town. Richman said that
action is appropriate as long as the shack is an accessory use
that meets the setbacks. Hunt noted the properties are under
different ownerships. How can the shed be an accessory use if it
is the only building on a separately owned piece of property?
Richman asked if the property is part of a larger parcel with a
structure. Hunt replied the parcel is a separately owned parcel.
Richman said the shed should be an accessory use to a residence.
Sunny Vann, planning office, said strict interpretation of the
code does not permit the use. The shed is not accessory. This
raises a question . If one owns a piece of land and wants to
build an allowed garden can he also build an outhouse that is
not adjacent to the house. The question comes down to reason-
ableness. At at a certain scale the structure requires a building
permit to be erected. Hunt will approach Drueding.
(David White arrives in the chambers. )
Hunt asked about the status of the KSPN antennae. Vann replied
that the antennae is to come down this week . There has been
discussion with Joyce Hayton , who has received a show cause
letter to appear before the city attorney.
Hunt asked about the elevator at mill Street Plaza. Vann said he
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is on the plans which the building permit was issued tor . He
will check this.
r7hite addressed the parking lot ne:zt to slacDonalds. Fie is upset
with the amount of debris strewn in front of IlacDonalds and in
the parking lot . He understands that there is two hour timed
parking. Originally it was eight hour tided parking. The lot is
now being used for a narking lot for 11acDonalds in the eariv
morning hours, similar to a drive through. Hunt remarked near bill
Street there is no designated barking. But it is becoming FlacDonalds
parking. Vann noted CCBC charged the time limit to short term.
It originally was being used as a long term parking lot for the
residents. That was not an appropriate use either. The lot was
meant to be a short ter=n parking lot for the downtown area. The
trash problem is certainly an issue. The prohibitive parking on
hill Street is a problem. Peyton said there has been a dumpstcr
sitting in the alley since 11acDon:alds opened. Anderson said he
saw thirty minute parking there t lis morning. Paul Taddune , city
attorney; suggested ToI:? Du:� a =3virolhmental health, be approached
OIh Elie issue off ti-le dumnster . Vann said city engineering acted
on the til:ie Y:)arlking winich a, . _: - uostec:
ii)in:il01, 1 . '.:_'Pere is a concern. `l'h;r-'re lu diScu'1-'!.i1Un aIDOU- :oinn,
a.��'r:zli ir: l'?tion and )ar �i ?g nor the city,. Tile long ter-, of
J.:—o;-1sist nt with t_ie intti:h : t7� t 10 downtown are;? .
TD-tdiune con-1 r`T1icd h L- show cc l -)r OCL C 1 17 s a''1= . e ,-),yen Eai:tn
QIh �lll' J w l ,ii Lit J11. _' r id a ! 1-2 had La conversation -.Tith Joyco
Hayden. JT1unt said the dish wlas still there today. 91 addiunc
reported that -'Hayden said tl at the 4�roblem 's"lad been addressed. Her
electrician was there the day the shot) cause letter was delivered.
A day certain has been scneduled for F:ayden to elxplain ;ally she
has not come into coyoOliance .
),Jhite rer)orted on tine trolley tasiS :force. The task :force talked
jointly with Tore F°lells , Allen 11ovaik , representative for the
Aspen T*lountain Lodge, and John Gilmore. The discussion was about
a link between Rio Grande, Rubey Park, and Litt 1-A; about Lunding;
about districts; and about assistance from the city. It has not
been determined whether to use the trolleys which are sitting
dormant . People favored a small transportation system through
the city. There have been three meetings. The task force will
go to Council after two meetings. Fie solicited Com.missioner ' s
comments. The task force is considering asking Council for an
In depth study Of cost.
Vann informed the Commission that there is a meeting scheduled
mid-September for conceptual trans-Dortation issues . This issue
will be addressed. Fie advised the Commission to postpone comments
until such time the Commission has an opportunity to determine
khow this fits into the overall trans-oortation alternatives.
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Roger Hunt moved to approve the minutes of July 10 , 1984; seconded
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by Jasmine Tygre. Al in favor ; motion carried
PUBLIC HEARING, CONTINUED
SPA CODE AMENDMENTS RESOLUTION
Harvey opened the continued public hearing.
Rlichiman said the resolution is very similar to the annotated
outline presented at the past meeting. The resolution incorporates
more detail and the comments made by the Commission.
Tygre addressed the first "whereas. " "There provisions" should
read "these provisions. " The Commission did not have questions
about the whereas ' s.
Richman continued. The intent section is similar to the draft.
The statement identifies SPA as an overlay. The statement also
provides the purpose of the overlay: to provide design flexibili t-,7,
to provide design integration, and to obtain -precise development
plans on SPA -,)arcels.
Designation of sites is made in the same way as other amendments
to zoning. Specifically suggested is an underlying zone to the
SPA. The zone is to be a guide and not an absolute limitation.
The designation will be a tool to take one into the process .
Designation requires findings about unique characteristics .
There are SPA recommendations for at least two parcels.
Harvey suggested language in the statement of intent referencinq
the fact that this is for the city' s benefit . The parcels are
sizable and important. fie does not want to give developers the
idea that the designation provides flexibility for them as much
as it provides fle.,-,ibilitv for the city.
Harvey addressed the procedure for designation. It states that
the planning commission and city council shall make findings.
The Commission is really making those findings right now and
adding them into the resolution . Richman clarified this. The
Commission is making these findings now on a preliminary basis.
The Commission is identifying wilat parcels actually ought to be-
rezoned SPA. In the formal rezoning resolution the Commission
will make findings as to why SPA was necessary. There are
certain parcels today that need the SPA. If the mountain should
slide there would be a need for planning downtown and a need for
a precise development plan. The Commission might designate
other areas of the city as SPA in the future .
Hunt asked if Richman is placing a new SPA on the places that
are already SPA. Richman responded to an extent that is true.
He perceives this as a fresh start witli a clear intent.
Richman reiterated that the Commission does not want to see a
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precise development plan. The Commission wants to make sure
that the burden of proof is on the applicant to demonstrate
that the rezoning takes place. That burden of proof is indicated
now in a cou-ole of places . Included is also a statement that if
there are multiple owners on a site that consent comes from
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all the Owners.
Richman addressed point three: variations permitted within SPA
overlay. Variations from the zoning requirements of" the under-
lying district_ will be allowed only through the approval oZ
a precise development plan. The language suggests not only will
the variations be permitted with the developer ' s request but
also might be imposed by the Commission and Council . This limits
that which is allowed by right in a zone district. It is noted
specifically that one is not exempt from subdivision requirements
or the growth management quota system.
on page three, 24 .7 . 4 (e) , the word "PUD" will be eliminated. There
is no reason for a SPA to be a PUD . SPA provides the same
flexibility as a PUD. Harvev commented on the phrase "preliminary
and final subdivision stages. " Preliminary is with the Com-i-Assion
and final with Council. Richman said the process is traced with
the a public hearing at the Commission level . It was suggested
there be a public meeting at the Council level. Vann did raise the
point if someone is asking for a variation in underlying use
requirement that makes the action rezoning. To meet the state
legal requirements it would be better to serve that action with a
public hearing as well. Richman suggested that Council convey final
approval at a public meeting unless someone is asking for a
use variation in which case the hearing should be published
at least fifteen days prior to the hearing date . This is addressed
in "d" .
There is one aspect of SPA in the code that is confusing. The
public zone and the academic zone require the same area and bulk
requirements bv a SPA. There is also a SPA process . There is
some confusion as to the difference between a public zoned
property and a SPA zoned property. A property zoned SPA, such as
the institute or the Rio GranAe, contains such a variety of uses
or such potential that it would be appropriate to give the
applicant the opportunity not only to vary the underlying area
and bulk requirements but to come up wit h-a use plan that works
for the site. An opposite example is the water treatment plant.
It is zoned public and the use is one use, public. There will
never be a retail shop or residential development in that zone.
The reason the public zone has its area and bulk requirement set
by SPA is not to vary use but to get a precise development plan.
Examples are the 111arolt property and the water treatment. The
parcels should not be set by PUD because PUD is designed for
clustering . Clustering is not necessarily the answer for Rubey
Park . The parcels cannot be set by special review because
special review is a Commission-only process. Clearly in the case
of Rubey Park the Council would not delegate that authority to
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the Commission. Instead the Commission is a recommending body.
Leave the public and the academic zone as set by a SPA with no
ability to vary uses. PUD is a process in and of itself with a
more limited set of properties zoned SPA whose uses can be
varied. Therefore, many properties do not need the SPA. The
intent is for SPA to be a review process for all publicly zoned
parcels. He did not want to set up something that is terribly
onerous . - That is why he is not requiring a four step - process.
Four steps to make an addition to the water treatment plant would
be terribly onerous and unproductive. When there is a complicated
case, then there is the provision to provide a conceptual SPA
plan.
Richman addressed point five: submission requirements for review
of precise development plan. The requirements are similar as
to preliminary PUT). Since one is not being taken through PUD
in SPA, the one PUD requirement of slope reduction was incor-
porated as a special requirement in the SPA. Slope reduction
would apply to the property and would determine the density as
"x°' . request x Someone could come through SPA and requc that the density
be "x" plus one . Slope reduction is used as a guideline .
The applicant cannot argue that because this is a SPA that slope
reduction does not apply and therefore a right is being denied.
lie was sensitive to the fear that people might see the underlying
zone as a bargaining mechanism. The intent is not to replace
something that is taken away.
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Point Live: criteria for review of the precise development plan
is the same as the prior outline with one deletion. The burden
is placed on the a'pplicant. And in the "be it resolved" it is
clarified that in the municipal code that SPA and PUD are to
be overlays.
(The Commission discusses the rezoning of the SPA designation of
parcels that are currently designated SPA. )
-Richman - could- only justify - that two parcels -absolutely need
a SPA overlay. The city cannot anticipate the uses for the
properties because of the unique circumstances surrounding the
Parcels.
Castle Ridge:
Harvey asked what is the current zoning of the parcels. Is
Castle Ridge R/MF? Richman replied that Castle Ridge is currently
2-15-PUD-SPA. R-15 was the county zoning when it was annexed.
There has been a tradition of carrying the zoning over from the
county to the city during annexation. The SPA in this case is
varying the R-15 zoning up to a R/ IF. Harvey asked if there is
Richman said there would be some
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any buildout potential there. -
buildout potential under MIF within growth managementE. competition.
Harvey asked if the parcel would require competition in growtil
management in employee housing. Richman said if the buildout was
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to increase the employee housing then the competition would not
be required.
Harvey asked if the property is being u-,-)zoned. Richman replied
the parcel is being upzoned within the RZ-15 zoning. 17ith the SPA
that property is P,/ ',F and is not being upzoned. Hunt reasoned
the SPA limited the development of the property. The SPA set the
development of the property. Richman said that would be continued
through SPA adoption. Harvey wanted information on what the
potential was and what the potential will be for the parcels.
Pardee asked what the affect would be if the parcel was R-15 (A) .
Anderson noted there is not anymore developable land left on the
parcel. The parcel was a SPA when it was R-15 (PUD) . A specific
plan was adopted . It was carried through . And it is over .
Designating the parcel R/MF acknowledges the parcel as a residential
multi family. The parcel is not a R-15 kind of use. If someone
argues that there is some potential left then the Commission can
argue that a plan has already been adopted. Harvey said he does
not know if that is the case. Is the owner of the property now a
private owner?
Vann reasoned the parcel was designated SPA because multi family
building could not be built in a R-15 zone district. The applicant
wanted to establish the density according to R-15 standards.
The R/14F district would be in the middle of nowhere. Instead, the
parcel was designated R-15 (SPA) . This was justified because the
project was employee housing.
Richr"lan remarked he will calculate whether the parcel is at its
maximum buildout. He can also evaluate if this action will
upzone the parcel.
Water Treatment Plant:
The Commission addresses the city water treatment plant. The
proposed zoning is public. Richman said the lot is currently
zoned public . The intent is to get the development to come
through the Commission and Council for review. There is no need
for public/SPA. Public requires approval of a plan under SPA.
By granting SPA the Commission insures that no one can return
and request the parcel be used for a store. The intent is to
discourage the variation of uses on the property. On the other
hand SPA accommodates variation. The Commission wants to see a
development plan. It recognizes that a water treatment -plant does
not necessarily 'Lit in the 1 : 1 FAR or standard area and bulk
requirements. The Commission wants to encourage someone to build
the necessary facility.
Forest Service•
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Harvey asked what is the point of zoning forest service land
public. Richman said at one time the area was zoned R-G, .•,7hich
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allowed multi family units to be built. The city did not support
this zone . R/1.11F zoning was also discouraged. Therefore,, the
city imposed the SPA on the property. There will never be a
SPA plan. Public zoning works. Richman reasoned that Zone allows
the currently existing public building and allows necessary
attendant accessory facilities . It can be reasoned that the
housing for the forest service employees is a necessary facility.
The facility is then a conforming use . The forest service is not
a candidate for SPA at all. Vann commented the forest service
agreed to come through the city processes for the purpose of
being consistent with the city policy. The planing office has
reviewed the application, has made substantive comments, and has
made the land more in compliance with the city' s standards.
Hunt asked about the postal department.
Richman said the jail has been separated from the SPA. It was
given approval under the public zone .
Little Nell:
Richman said Little Nell is zoned cc/SPA. Only the cc portion
of the Little Nell property has the SPA designation on it. The cc
allows a combination of commercial uses and hotels as a conditional
use. He cannot come up with a reason why this portion needs a
use variation. The city will want to see a plan for the entire
site.
Hunt said if the ownership includes other zones in the immediate
area, then an overall plan is desire(]. It is difficult to do this
with this mechanism. Vann interjected the owners can come in
under a PUD and request a rezoning. The ability to change the
use already exists with the SPA. JJ i th the present proposal, the
owners will not be able to extend. the SPA as proposed before .
Instead of extending the SPA over the entire property it would be
better for the applicant to submit a request to rezone portions
of the property.
Hunt reasoned the commercial and lodge zoning relates to a
geographical area. How is an area handled that does not have the
identifiable geographic boundaries but should enjoy certain of
those zone uses? Vann replied that Hunt is arguing for an extension
of the existing SPA designation. That did not receive favorable
support before. If the commercial areas are zoned commercial
there is no reason to apply an SPA. If the entire i
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considered and uses other than conservation are contemplated then
the SPA should be extended to include more of the entire pro-
perty. Given the controversial nature of the proposal , he suggested
remove tile SPA. SPA is not required on the commercial area.
In the event the ski company comes forward with an application
that envisions commercial type uses in c-conservation that is
consistent with their PUT) application then they can submit a
request to rezone.
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T-'ichman suggcsteC-1 that the areas zoned L-1 be part c- --t,lified
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C!-/PUD. TT.unt asked what part of the cc oucji-it to Dart of: conser-
vation. Ric l'iy-.-Lan said he T.-,,oulu like to review that on a site
rgued ti-ic SPA does not accomp-1111sh
specific basi.-j. !:I,-
�7-0 -ierc. That JElexibility
under the t, -, e.- o 1: p r o c e ss, jo-ing envisioned 1
is not needed. The SPA -..-)rocess may in fact take something away
from the owner, for exai,.iple, some underlying rights. Little Nell
does not need the SPA. It is not to tile owner ' s benefit to have a
SPA under the present circumstances. If the circumstances change
substantially then a rezoning can take --)lace.
Vann said the action that achieves ultimate fle:xibility is to
leave the underlying zoning there, and overlay the entire property
with SPA. Then anything can be dealt with. In order to do that
the extension of the SPA designation needs to be processed as a
rezoning. The extension would be recommended to Council but with
the absence of a plan Council will not approve the expansion of
the SPA zone. The attempt now is somewhat more pragmatic. The
same results can be achieved through a request to rezone and to
develop under a PUD. A plan would be provided at the time of
rezoning.
Hunt asked what the other zones are in the cc zone that are not
accommodated in the c zone. Vann replied only those uses wIllic-In
are allowed in the c-conservation. But those uses are not going
to be built at the base of the mountain. Fie warned the Commission
that the Council that would not c,,-tend the SPA designation
because somehow it granted or created ulozoning which did not
exist is the present Council.
Richman clarified that for the parcel now zoned cc/SPA, those
kinds of cc uses represent a reasonable zoning designation. There
is no reason to look at variation in the cc unless there is a
desire to build a residential project in the cc zone. He cannot
justify at this point a hotel or commercial use for the c zoned
parcel without a plan. If a plan is presented it might demonstrate
a basis for a SPA designation. The site is not that complex that
multiple uses cannot fit under one zone . The cc allows both
commercial and hotel. Those are the only uses proposed to date
that make sense. The cc/PUT) is a barrier to a residential project.
Vann reivarlked Little Nell is very different from the Rio Grande
or institute property. The later parcels have multiple uses
which already exist on the site and which cannot be accommodated
under any generic zone. The institute' s uses exist in such a way
that one cannot outline discreet parcels for specific zoning.
Richman said he cannot accommodate Cap' s, a parking structure, a
performing arts center, and transit terminal in any one zone that
exists today. But, he can accommodate the tourist development at
the base of Little dell in the cc/PUB zone.
Pardee asked if the c, whicn is part of the Little Hell property,
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will be able to handle a rezoning request with specific plans .
Richman said there is no reason to increase the flexibility on
that parcel. Vann said the parcel was zoned c for a purpose.
The mechanism to determine the appropriateness of uses is through
a rezoning not through SPA. The Commission already knows the uses
of the institute property. There are problems. The problems
cannot be dealt with through specific rezoning of pieces of the
property.
Richman commented that only two parcels are designated SPA.
The process is not used much. SPA is a tool for future redevelop-
ment. SPA is important for those two parcels.
Marolt•
Richman commented on the Harolt property. It is currently zoned
R-15 . The city owns the property. The public zone allows a
whole series of institutional type buildings . If the 11arolt
property is developed it would be for recreational use not for
a transit facility. The Marolt property is there for park
purposes. Park does not require a SPA -plan. Vann noted there is
no plan because there is no specific develoiDriient.
Harvey asked if someone is sponsoring the rezoning. Richman
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answered. The Commission is only recommending that twelve sites
be rezoned subsequent to the adoption of the code amendments .
After the SPA is rewritten, he will come back to the Commission with
a class action rezoning on the twelve parcels. The Commission
is not rezoning now. Vann said this action is to illustrate
to Council the reasons for the SPA amendments.
Hunt- asked if park zone is so limited in development then how can
there be a plan unit development. Richman cited the golf course.
The reason for the PUD on the golf course was to get a good
landscaping plan and to make any development that comes through
PUD to comply with the intent of the property. If there is
not a PUD then the Commission cannot review what happens .
The alternative is set park by SPA. Hunt said park is a public
type use. Why not keep the processes consistent for park and
public? Harvey responded that public allows jails and parking
lots. Richman said the alternative is to have the park zone ' s
area and bulk requirements set by SPA just like the public zone.
Vann said establishing a consistent review mechanism regardless
of the underlying zone is a good point. Richman will change park
from park/PUD to simply park. lie will change the langauge also
to list the area and bulk requirements set by SPA plan.
Rubey Park:
The proposed zone for Rubey Park is public. Hunt asked if public
includes commercial uses, snack bars, etc. Richman replied if the
uses are accessory. If the uses are principal then the answer is
no. Vann noted it will be difficult to zone Rubey Park because
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everyone wants to see it zoned park . There is a common mis-
perception about Rubey Park. The fact is that it is not a park
but a well landscaped public facility. Richman reviewed the use
tables before he recommended the public designation . He is
comfortable with the variety of uses that that designation
accommodates. Harvey directed Richman to check out the range of
uses. Excluded uses might be desirable , for example , visitor
services. Hunt said SPA does not allow a variation in use.
Smuggler Trailer Park:
Harvey asked the same question about Smuggler as he did with
Castle Ridge. Richman explained nothing is changed. The underlying
zones are identified on the plat. Smuggler has an adopted SPA
plan. The adopted SPA plan sets the three zones . People are
having problems in the new park . In order to make any minor
addition repetition of the entire SPA is required , ordinance
adoption, etc. The proposal is to put Smuggler into a PUD. This
deals with the fact the area and bulk requirements cannot be met
to the nth degree in the park. This allows amendments to take
place easierly. Harvey asked if the designation of the mobile
home park as a PUD eliminates some of the nonconformities .
Richman said yes especially for the pre-existing park . The new
park is conforming. Vann said the pre-existing park is not in
compliance.
Trueman:
Harvey asked if anything is being ci-langed on lot one, Clark ' s,
(:TIC/SCI/PUD) or the Trueman property. Richman replied the only
change is that PUD replaces the SPA designation. Hunt asked if
this gives the owner any development rights. Harvey said no .
Richman said the only case where there is a concern about develop-
ment rights is Castle Ridge. In that case R/MF replaces R-15 .
Vann noted the Trueman property is at or above FAR. Richman said
this action takes away the ability to vary uses.
Hunt asked if the city will be able to administer that parcel as
it has under a SPA. Richman responded not only does the rezoning
process and the elimination of the SPA need to be addressed, but
the approved SPA' s need to be cleaned up. Plans need to be pre-
sented._ In the case of Trueman the error is identifying the
building as NC/SCI. A subscript class action is needed. He needs
to sit down with the city attorney to determine the proper
mechanism. Subdivision, PUD, or SPA documents are needed as
the case may be. Vann said there may be a problem. It is an after
the fact case. There is no previous record. The cases have only
been addressed administratively.
Harvey asked if the change in uses comes before the Commission.
Vann answered the approved SPA plan says NC/SCI . The Commission
has always administered this along certain guidelines. Technically
speaking, under the approved plat the Commission cannot preclude
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one from the other. Hunt reminded the Commission what happened
under the approved plat. Anderson asked if most approvals for
this parcel are use determination approvals . Vann said yes .
Someone who wants to occupy the space designated NIC may ask for
NC use for the space. Regardless of the SPA, the Commission has
the authority to review it under the use determination.
Hunt asked for the breakdown in percentages of uses in the
Trueman building . The building was to be mixed use . Vann
reiterated the legal problems. The Commission is coming back and
asking for something it did not write down. Hunt said it was
written down as a result of someone else ' s action. Vann said to
the extent the city can clean up the approved SPA' s the city will
do so. The ability to do so will be difficult. Richman noted in
some cases it may have to wait for a development request .
There is a lack of approved plans in many of the cases . Hunt
suggested approaching the landowners . Explain that the city
wants to eliminate the SPA but the city needs a plan indicating the
mix of SCI and NC uses.
Harvey asked if the PUD should be removed from lot three (city
purchase) of the Trueman property. Where is lot four? Richman
answered it is the undeveloped strip that travels up the trail on
the hillside, the back side of ACES. Vann said the flat area on
the back side of ACES is zoned R-15 . The hillside, near the
residential area, is zoned R-6. Richman clarified that lot one
of the Trueman property is currently zoned !TC/SCl/SPA and the
other three lots are zoned SCl/SPA. The proposal substantially
downzones. Vann said this recommendation is consistent with the
plans for ACES.
Institute:
Richman addressed the paragraph of intent for the institute
land. He looked at what the zone district was in the case of
academic and in the case of public. fie looked at the language on
the zone district. He reviewed the resolution that Council
adopted when it established the institute advisory committee
in 1980 . The resolution included flowery language as to the
historic nature of the site and as to why the property is unique.
He lifted that language for the intent of this resolution.
In the case of the Rio Grande he went back to the ordinance
that adopted a preliminary SPA plan. The language provides very
broad guidelines.
Harvey thought the reasons for the SPA should be described more
in terms of what actually happens at the institute property.
There is an academic-cultural environment with attendant housing
and administrative facilities. There is short term lodging.
There is food service . Employee housing is desirable . Is
the intent of the property to preserve what has existed , for
example, the Aspen Institute? It is not clear what academic
zoning allows. The property will have to be redeveloped. Harvey
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recommends a statement of intent which describes the city' s attitude
about the use of that land . Vann said that is difficult to
answer given the present Council . The principal use of the
property can be more specific or more generic. It can deal with
other considerations as Dart of a specific proposal. How does
the Commission want to handle this? Harvey said consider someone
who purchases the property. The buyer will see a multiplicity of
uses (short term housing, lodging, restaurants, etc. ) . Harvey
does not want to see a transient hotel facility. Ile favors
something that has existed to date, a situation in which people
come in for one or two weeks. flaintain the character associated
with a conference center or meeting place. The 1• est End Association
will want to make sure that the people using the facility are
using the facility for specific meetings and not for a one or two
night lodging.
7ohn Doremus said it is difficult to put a single zone on a property
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which has several different existing uses . There is also the
potential of creating more uses. Historically there has been
academic use and institutional use. The only zoning classification
for this is academic . The academic site is composed of 24
undeveloped acres. That site includes the three institutional
uses, parking lots, and most of Anderson Park. There is also the
old Meadows . The Meadows was built as a lodging facility.
falter Paepckels dream was never fully completed. There was to be
a few more major housing units. There are dwelling units .
There is the trustee house which has been occupied on a short term
and long term basis. There is a restaurant which can be inter-
preted either as an accessory use or non accessory use. The
health center also could be either an accessory or non accessor-',7
use . The restaurant and the health center have served the
community for a number or years. Finally, there is vacant land
or open space. The open space designation may be inappropriate
because it is surrounded by the R-6 and R-15 residential zoning
classification. There are also 27 acres of Meadows 85 acres that
remains zoned conservation; 24 acres are academic use, 16 acres
are the Neadows , and 15-20 acres are undeveloped. It is very
difficult to determine the right zoning classification if the
Commission follows the procedure that Richman is suggesting. One
-one designation may not be appropriate. There is mixed use on
the -property. It is wrong to assume that the entire 85 acres are
purely academic. Richman responded that nothing precludes the
multiple zones, the procedure does allow it.
Doremus commented on the process. The risk of rezoning is not
worth it. No one understands what the word "variation" means in a
PUD or SPA. There is an incredible amount of confusion. Other
boards do not understand the meaning of "variation. " The developer
is penalized for this. Any kind of reliance on the flexibility
of the PUD or SPA is risky.
Pardee commented that the flexibility that is envisioned in SPA and
PUD and is desired to create better projects Council does not
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understand nor allows. The process creates a situation that the
developer will not build that which is in the best interest of
the city. The process tries to anticipate what the developer
will build. The Comrnission should not place an appropriate
underlying zone on a property it is not familiar with. At the
same time there is not one zone which picks up the multiplicity of
uses. SPA is the answer.
Doremus said there is no reason to assume that 85 acres should
be zoned with one zone. Can this parcel have three zones?
Gideon Kaufman requested that no specific action be taken on
the SPA amendments as they relate to Little ?Jell. Richman
assured him that action would not be taken for another two
.weeks.
Hunt said a developer likes numbers to put into a computer. The
developer wants to maximize his quantity. The developer wants to
come up with an approach. The developer probably wants to see so
many square feet for commercial use , so many square feet for
lodge use, so many square feet for institutional use . That is an
easy way out for the developer. Richman said that detail should
be deleted from the SPA plan . There should only be a broad
statement of intent. At some point there will be a rezoning on the
:nap. I�otizir�g is being finalized here. The purpose of the SPA
plan is to remove that level of detail. However, if it is too
general, be more specific to the extent this can be done. The
property should not be planned in the next two to three weeks in
anticipation of a SPA. Harvey concurred.
White said the word "variance" solicits different interpretations
than what the Commission wants. Harvey said "variance" receives
a different meaning as it applies to the Boari ot" Adjustment. The
sword is really "variations. "
Doremus said only two )ar being r +-a ,r,'iended for SPA
designation. 1e wonders what would have happened if the process
Richrnan is suggesting had been in effect for the Ashen Nou.l�ai
project. Tio�w would v .e Aspen 'iountain project have �c :n treated
with a SPA designation? Does SPA iily ; any use for future redeve-
lo_ment in the city? vYill the SPA prows: be more understandable,
or will there be less confusion with a PUD process? Ratner than
attempting to pick a zoning classif ication initially why not
write a paragraph that picks up the history of the ileadows and
the desires of the developer in broad terms . Recognize , for
e.,ample, that there might be a residential use in addition to the
academic use. Realize the institute wants short term accommoda-
tions. Expand the academic use.
Tygre questioned the statement of intent. It evades the problem
of what to do with a multi use type situation like the institute.
People ' s perception of the history of the institute is very
different depending how long one has been in town . PerhaE?s
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extend the institute' s statement of intent. The historical aspect
of the parcel is one of the reasons why it is such an important
site. The shear size of the parcel makes the parcel critical .
She opposed an insertion as part of the intent of what the
city might want to do. It is wrong for the Commission to anticipate
that and take that away from the developer . If there is going to
be a wish list there should be a general public list . Do not
create reliance. Realize the wish list may be opposed. In this
instance, the Commission needs to take an adversary position in
terms of what the Commission wants to see on the parcel as
opposed to what a developer might want to see. She suggested in
this case specify what the Cor:imission wants to see developed
at the institute parcel.
Richi-iian asked if the Commission wants to move away from the
underlying zone . The Commission responded no. Harvey said
the point is that the SPA process allows for variations in the
use from strict application of the zone. Peyton asked if there
is not an underlying zone what are the variations from. Harvey
remarked there has to be a zone because SPA is a process not
a zone . There cannot be simply a SPA designation without an
underlying zone.
Paul Taddune, city attorney, remarked that a SPA allows the city
to defer to its own staff and imagination. That is where the
resistance is. The community does not trust deferring to the
city staff. He interpreted SPA to be a free zone . Anything
designated SPA gives the city absolute control and also gives the
city the ability to master plan the parcel and to come up with
what the city and the developer can agree to a site specific
solution.
Pardee concurred with Taddune. Council has said that SPA was a
Pandora' s box because there were so many parcels designated SPA.
But parcels with the SPA designation have been reduced to two.
Those two parcels are very critical. He does not want to give
any reliance . He wants to discourage residential development.
Because these parcels are so critical to the city and its residents
the Commission will accept review within the criteria of SPA.
That takes into account adjoining uses , adjoining zones , etc.
It will not create reliance. Let the developer come through the
process with a plan with no reliance. One problem with the
procedure through which the Aspen Hountain Lodge project is going
through is reliance with all the underlying zones and the Council ' s
misunderstanding of PUD or SPA. lie does not want an underlying
zone on these critical parcels and does not want any reliance.
Harvey suggested a statement of intent which indicates why the
institute property is being designated SPA. List the historical
uses that have occurred on the property. Deal with the academic,
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with the institutional, with the Paepcke area, with the restaurant,
with the health club, and wit'i-I the long and short term residential
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these areas are historically SPA. There should not be reliance.
Richman said the statement is not an explanation of what the
Commission wants to see developed there. It is an explanation why
the Commission is designating the parcel with SPA. Harvey also
suggested language about the impact on the west end neighborhood.
Indicate the impact has been restricted because there has not
been public lodging. The restaurant needs to be talked about in
the statement of intent . Include how the restaurant has been
used.
Pardee discouraged the designation academic/SPA. He encouraged
simply SPA. lie discouraged an underlying zone. There are only
two parcels with that designation . He reasoned that if the
academic portion is retained it becomes a bargaining chip. Use
historical as the underlying zone. Use the language that SPA
is the zone for those areas that do not easily fall within an
underlying zone classification.
Richman noted the city attorney would not be comfortable with
SPA as an underlying zone . PUU has an underlying zone . SPA
should also have an underlying zone. Pardee argued the underlying
zone is the historical uses. Harvey remarked that zone designation
does not exist.
Joe Wells , consultant for the Aspen Nountain Lodge project,
said the institute property has never been zoned academic.
Harvey read a definition of academic use :
"The intent is to establish areas used for education and
cultural activities with attendant research housing and
administrative facilities. All development is to proceed
according to a site plan approved pursuant to the provisions
of article on special planned areas. Permitted uses are
private school or universities, teaching hospital, research
facilities , and testing laboratory, provided that such
facilities are enclosed and that there are no adverse noise
or environmental affects, auditorium and other facilities
for performances and lectures, galleries, museums, library,
and administrative offices. Conditional uses are boarding
house and dormitory for housing students and faculties,
student health care facilities, student and faculty dining
hall, satellite dish antennae. "
Harvey said his concern with academic is it does not address the
11eadows Restaurant . The only reference to food is a dining
facility for students and faculty. Does the academic zone
qualify the restaurant as a nonconforming use? Is a use permit
required? Richman said he did not Snow if there would be problems
for existing operations without an approved SPA. Harvey noted the
definition refers to :health care facilities not a health
club. Hoarding housing and dormitories are conditional uses for
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students and faculty. In reality, there exist lodge rooms and
condominiums for participants in the seminars . Richman said
clearly there is not a zone that encompasses what is there .
That is the reason for the SPA. Harvey did not want to create
nonconforming uses.
Wells expressed surprise at moving away so drastically from t1--he
approach which has been used for ten years to try to find a way
to preserve the use of the institute. Ten years ago a decision
was made not to apply academic zoning to the site simply because
it was so inconsistent with a program that was to accommodate the
use there. For the Commission to apply an academic zone district
does create a series of nonconforming uses on the site. The zone
classification should indicate a clear direction as to what the
community feels is appropriate. The academic designation is not
a clear guide as to what might be achieved with the retention of
the institute.
Harvey asked if anything else is zoned academic. Wells said
nothing is zoned academic. Tygre said the academic classification
is not all that bad. The fact is the academic zone may not
include all the current uses, but as a general intent zone the
academic designation is appropriate. Perhaps create a variation
on the academic zone to include the current uses. The academic
designation does address the intent the Commission wants to see
there although it precludes some of the existing uses.
Hunt said one way to eliminate the nonconforming status of the
academic zone is to approve a SPA plan. That is the inducement
to get a SPA plan . He reported that people voted against the
the performing arts center because they did not want the building
located on the Rio Grande property. Could a performing arts
center be considered for the institute property? Richman said
under the comprehensive plan the institute property is a place
to be considered.
Richman will put the history into the statement of intent for
both the institute and the Rio Grande property.
1�7 e 1 public hearing on August ton Anderson moved to continue the p
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PUBLIC HEARING
THE NUGGET LODGE CONDOMINIUMIZATION-ZONING CORRECTION
Colette Penne, planning office , introduced the case. There
are two requests . One is to condom iniumize the lodge and the
second is to correct zoning which the Commission is sponsoring.
Harvey rioted the Commission does not have a problem with the
zoning.
Penne continued. The 1'iugget is zoned L-3 . It is conforming in
terms of FAR; in fact the lodge is below tine FAR. The allowed
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FAR is 1: 1 , it is . 53:1 . The applicant is providing the required
employee housing. The applicant has presented an affidavit of what
services have been provided for the past few years. The applicant
is meeting all those services. Transportation services will not
be provided since none has been provided before. The applicant is
committing to retain membership in the Aspen Resort Association,
is committing to advertise in the yellow pages, and to stay open
for tourist use . (Bob 11orris, applicant , called himself the
.Hotel Aspen, Limited . ) Common areas are being maintained or
enhanced. The lodge will have to be physically upgraded with
condominiumization.
A city ordinance reads that at least 30% of the assessed value
of the condominiumization has to be put into the project. The
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tax assessor ' s office determines the assessed value. is might T.
be a moot point because the applicant is remodelling the entire
lodge. The assessor adds 20% to the assessed value. That is the
value after condominiumization. It is not a very specific science.
That valuation after condominiumization is $163,000 . 3000 of that
is $48, 900 . The applicant has committed to spend $350 , 000 on
improvements. There is no problem in this case .
There could be a problem in the future with this. Harvey inter-
jected that one issue could be that an applicant states that
they are going to spend a half million dollars on improvements
to influence the Commission for the upgrading and condominiumization
approval and turn around and spend much less. Penne said that
cannot happen in this case, there are promissory notes.
The engineering department did note that the applicant requests a
vacation of the alley . There are some requirements . Penne
attached a memo stating this is not a request for alley vacation.
Harvey understood something is encroaching onto the alley.
Anderson said 'historically the alley takes a left hand turn
on to Bleeker Street. It is a dead end. Harvey' s concern is if
something currently exists in the alley and the Commission
approves condominiumization then is there a problem. Penne
commented on the retention of utility easements through the
alley. Harvey pointed out item two of Barry Edward ' s memo:
"viewing the plat I see that engineering may have some comments
regarding encroachment licenses required. . . the alley that appears
to run through a used portion of the project. . . " Penne commented
that Edwards is simply stating that if engineering determines
that encroachment licenses are required, Edwards wants to review
the language. Penne has not asked about this specifically, but
she can. Hunt said the reference may be to the walkways in the
alleys. The alley is landscaped. Harvey said if the Commission
authorizes the area as common area as part of the condominiumization
then the city does not have any review ability to say that it
will not vacate the alley. Penne said the condominiumization and
vacation are not dependent on each other. If the city does not
want to vacate the alley because it wants to retain it as an
right-of'-way use then the improvements have to be made.
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Taunt said this brings up an issue with �Irtilur ' s Restaurant .
The trucks back up to the dock and cross the street. The alley
is effectively blocked off. Dunaway said the city gave Arthur ' s
permission before the city blocked the alley off. That should be
in the record. Hunt asked if the agreement was that the alley be
upgraded for truck use. Dunaway did not recall the specifics.
Penne recommended the rezoning of the east half of lots H and 0
to L-3 and that subdivision exception be recommended for the
-ourpose of condominiumization of the Hotel aspen, formally the
Nugget, with the conditions that the applicant submit and record
a condominium map, that the applicant and the future condominium
association is subject to special improvement districts, that
the condominium declaration documents be approved by the city
attorney following approval and prior to being recorded, that
-)lans be submitted to upgrade the lodge by a value of $350 , 000
to the building department from nine months of this approval,
that the work has to be completed within twelve months of the
issuance of the permit, that the applicant will have to execute
a promissory note payable to the city secured by a trustee deed
encumbering the lodge property to insure the physical upgrading
will be accomplished according to Section 20-23 (a) (6) (c) of the
code, and that a deed restriction has to be approved by the city
attorney and must be filed restricting unit ;x100 to employee
Dousing. (Note in condition sir, county attorney should read city
attorney. )
Penne assured the Commission that Gideon raufman has supplied
the appropriate information in item one of the memo by Edwards.
Harvey asked if the condominiumization runs with the land.
Someone said yes.
Hunt asked who reviews the $350 ,000 upgrading. Penne responded
that HPC has reviewed the exterior upgrading. Hunt noted that if
the plumbing is not addressed there will be problems. He knows
the plumbing is composed of galvanized pipe and concrete slabs.
I,7ithout a plumbing upgrade the project is not worth anything.
Bob rlorris , applicant , said he will replace the plumbing
systems. That is in the plans.
Harvey opened the public hearing.
Penne explained there was an incorrect legal description of
the zoning. The action by the Commission is to correct the
error. Harvey in response to a query by Peyton said the intention
is to zone the entire parcel L-3 , a portion of the parcel was
deleted in the legal description.
Anderson reminded the Commission of a case a feet years ago, the
Black Swan condominiums on Ute Avenue. The original name was too
close to the Cottonwood condominiums. In the subdivision process
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the Black Swan was required to change its name because the name
was causing confusion. To date there has been before the Commission
the Aspen Ski Lodge , the Aspen Nountain Lodge , the Lodge of
Aspen, the Aspen, the Hotel Aspen, and the Inn at Aspen. This is
confusing to tourists in partic;u3 -ar.
,orris explained the purpose of the name. He started with the
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Nugget . e talked to marketing -1c . The na.L.- — Ot
rei-And-ed many people oJ: Las Vegas. T11e wanted sometilling t1l cat was
a little differs i and yet not totally different . There are
only three hotels in As)en: Hotel Jeroiniie, Hot-L'l Aspen, and 1110te1
Lenado. This project is not a lodge, inn, or motel. The logo
has - en c big word on tle logo.
s be lesigned. "I'llotel" is a I I'A
2inde r son thought- there is something in the codie which addresses
,.,iai.-,ing one subdivision or one condominiu,,Azation similar in
name to another all(], that it confuses the tourists. Morris agreed
the original proposal was the "Lodge of Aspen" but it was decided
that was too confusing. .,orris re-minded the Commission there
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is the Aspen Ski Lodge and Aspen Ski Lodge Two. The word "hotel "
is used in only two other names. That is why "Hotel Aspen" was
chosen. "Hotel " is prominent on the stationary and the logo.
The lodging is listed in the telephone book as "Hotel Aspen. "
Norris noted one-third of the listings in the phone book, incorporate
the word "Aspen" in their name.
Anderson read from the municipal code, page 121�, Section 20-
12 (b) :
"Proposed name of the subdivision which shall not be the
same or similar to any name used on a recorded plat in
Pit-kin County, Colorado. "
That was the justification used by Council for the condominiums
on Ute Avenue.
Hunt suggested including a recomr,.tendation that Council enforce
that ordinance. It is becoming very confusing among commercial
lodging facilities that are using the name "Aspen. " Harvey said
convey this with this particular application and cite the section
in the code .
'.!orris asked if under the same argument the Aspen 11ountain
Lodge should be denied its use of that name. Harvey said he
is trying to make Council aware that there are many pending
projects in the planning stage which are using the name "Aspen. "
There will be a substantial problem.
Penne asked how the Commission wants to write this condition.
Pardee said include this as a condition of approval . Harvey
suggested language that Council consider the -particular section
of the code and then consider a request for a name change because
of the great confusion with the number of similar names.
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T the applicant, noted the first
,)avid EisensCein, attorney for
affect on the applicant a name change is economic. Also, consider
the purpose of the provision in the code that one should not name
something deceptively similar to something else . The idea
is consumer protection . If someone subdivided a small , poor
piece of land and named it Starwood East the consumer is protected
from the deceptively similar name as Starwood and would be
protected from buying into the project the consumer thought
was the quality of Starwood. This project is different. This is
not raw land that is being subdivided into building sites. This
project is the condominiumization of a lodge. In many cities
businesses are named after the city. In this case the name is
the Hotel Aspen. The name is a modification which takes out any
similarity. Consider that in the recommendation.
rLnaddune noted there are state regulations which address this .
This is not necessarily a land use planning issue. Harvey informed
Taddune this is in the municipal code . The code states that
no subdivision shall be named similarly to another.
Harvey said the Commission' s intent is not so much to -,put the
onus on the applicant to change the name as it is to put Council.
on notice of the fact that the Commission is concerned about the
number of names which incorporates the word "Aspen" and that
Council does have the mechanism to act on this.
Hunt ' s concern is identifying this project as hotel. The concept
of "hotel " is being stretched. Morris said on the plat the
legal description will be "'Hotel Aspen, condominiumized lot . "
Pardee concurred with Hunt. Hotel is deceptive. Hotel Aspen
sounds like a full service hotel . Pardee suggested that the
project not be called "Hotel Aspen. " The name is not only con-'using
but it is also deceptive. The project should not be called a
hotel unless in fact the project is delivering hotel services .
This deception will hurt not only the applicant but also all the
accommodations in Aspen.
Eisenstein mentioned that it is a requirement the name be followed
by the words a lodge condominium or condominiunized lodge on the
plat and the condominium document . Morris responded to the
argument of name deception. This project will have the highest
level of service in comparison to any other place in this
town. There is not the ability to have a restaurant on site now.
The rooms will include wool carpeting, jacuzzi ' s , enclosed
solariums, wet bars, etc. There will be a variety of services.
Therc is the expectation to go through a GMP application in the
future for expansion. The level of services is planned to be high.
Harvey read the recommendation : "The Commission recommends
Council consider the choice of the name "Hotel Aspen" under
the criteria of Section because of the confusion of so
Zany similar lodge names in town. Further the use of hotel
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is deceptive. " Harvey suggested adding : "given the oroposed
amenities and service. " Pardee added: "as compared to the general
conception held by the public of services provided by a hotel. "
Harvey closed the public hearing.
Lee Pardee moved to recommend rezoning of the east one half
of lots E and 0 to L-3 and subdivision exception for the purpose
of condominiumization of the Hotel Aspen, formally the Nugget
Lodge with the -following conditions (extracted from the planning
office memo dated August 7 , 1904) :
1 . Submission and recordation of a condominium map.
2. The applicant and future condominium association is
subject to participation in future improvement districts
by covenant pursuant to the city' s standard language .
3 . The condominium declaration and associated documents
must be approved by the city attorney following approval
and prior to recordation.
4. Submission of plans to upgrade the lodge by a value
of $350 , 000 to the building department within nine
(9) months of this approval and the work must be completed
within twelve (12) months of the issuance of the building
permit.
5. Execution of a promissory note payable to the city
secured by a trust deed encumbering the lodge property
to assure that the physical upgrading will be accom-
plished. The terms of the note shall be as set out
in Section 20-23 (a) (6) (c) of the code.
A deed restriction approved by the city attorney must
be f iled with the clerk and recorder of Pitkin County,
Colorado , restricting unit 1,U00 to employee housing
guidelines.
I-7ith an additional condition:
7 . Council should consider the choice of the name "Hotel
Aspen" under the criteria of Section 20-12 (b) because
of the so many similar lodge names in town and, further-
more, the use of the term "hotel " is deceptive considering
the perception of term by the general public.
The motion is seconded by Mary Peyton.
Discussion. Hunt requested a minor amendment to the basic motion.
Indicate that the rezoning of these half lots is to correct
a surveying error . Pardee moved to amend his motion to include
the rezoning is to correct an error , it is an administrative
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rezoning; seconded by Mary Peyton. Anderson requested strengthening
condition seven to make a condition of approval that the name
"Hotel Aspen" be changed not to include the word "Aspen. " Pardee
moved to amend his motion again to include Anderson' s suggestion;
seconded by Mary Peyton.
The final motion read:
The Commission moved to recommend rezoning of the east one half
of lots E and 0 to L-3 to correct an error in administrative
rezoning and subdivision exception for the purpose of condominiu-
mization of the Hotel Aspen , formally the Nugget Lodge with
the following conditions (extracted from the planning office
memo dated August 7, 1984) :
1. Submission and recordation of a condominium map.
2. The applicant and future condominium association is
subject to participation in future improvement districts
by covenant pursuant to the city ' s standard language.
3 . The condominium declaration and associated documents
must be approved by the city attorney following approval
and prior to recordation.
4. Submission of plans to upgrade the lodge by a value
of $350 , 000 to the building department within nine
(9) months of this approval and the work must be completed
within twelve (12) months of the issuance of the building
permit.
5. Execution of a promissory note payable to the city
secured by a trust deed encumbering the lodge property
to assure that the physical upgrading will be accom-
plished. The terms of the note shall be as set out
in Section 20-23 (a) (6) (c) of the code.
6 . A deed restriction approved by the city attorney must
be filed with the clerk and recorder of Pitkin County,
Colorado, restricting unit k 100 to em-
ployee housing
guidelines.
"Jith an additional condition:
7 . Council should consider the choice of the name "Hotel
Aspen" under the criteria of Section 20-12 (b ) and
that as a condition of approval that the the name
"Hotel Aspen" be changed not to include "Aspen" because
of so many similar lodge names in town and, further-
more, the use of the term "hotel" is deceptive considering
the perception of term by the general public.
Lee Pardee moved to approve the motion; seconded by liary Peyton.
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All in favor ; motion carried with Jasmine Tygre opposed.
THE ASPEN
AMENDMENT TO GMP SUBMISSION/FAR SPECIAL REVIEW
Penne said the lodge is L-3 . It went through GMP last year .
The applicant asked for three units to be placed on stilts in
the parking lot. 17hen the applicant came back through special
review a-,pproval to increase the maximum FAR of 1 : 1 the Commission
directed the applicant to redesign the rooms in some way that
the rooms would not be in the parking lot on stilts.
The germaine issue now is whether the Commission has to rescore
this or can the Commission go through without a formal rescoring
to determine if the application meets threshold. There is a big
change in design. The applicant is not saying post-GNP that he
wants a major change in the design. Instead the applicant was
directed by the Commission based on the planning office ' s recom-
mendation to change the design.
The lodge units fit into the growth management criteria and
do not affect growth negatively. The new design does meet the
threshold score . There are no changes which would alter the
scoring of the amenities provided for the guest or the conformance
of public policy goals . In category one , public facilities
and services, there will be no changed scores for water, sewer,
storm drainage, or roads. However, one fire hydrant is elimi-
nated. An extra fire hydrant is needed because of the extra
building location. One point is subtracted for the removal
of the hydrant. Category one totals 5 . 85 points rather than
6. 85 points.
There are scoring changes in all areas of category two. In the
memo, she outlined the previous scores by the commissioners .
in terms of architectural design , most commissioners scored
the application low; the average was 1 . 5. In site design, the
average was one because of circulation problems in the parking
lot. Energy conservation scored high and there are not many
changes in the new application. Parking and circulation are improved
by removing the structure and stilts from the parkling lot . The
visual impact witil the new design has been minimized. All those
points are increased. T,lith the multipliers , the score is in-
creased . Unless the Commission disagrees then the scores are
increased in the categories of architectural design, site design,
parking, visual impact, etc. The new project has a much higher
score than earlier. The score is above the threshold.
Harvey asked LE anyone disagrees in principal that the categories
are improved with the new design.
Penne came up wit hl a recommended score of 706 .27 .
The Commission specifically required. 20 parking spaces . Those
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spaces have been paved and delineated. Dave Gibson, applicant, said
the twentieth space will be installed when the addition is
made. Penne noted one drywell will be removed, but there will
be a new roof with a new structure. Site drainage will be retained
on site.
Penne concluded the new solution is much better than the stilt
structure. The design is of minimal visual impact. The Commission
has already evaluated the project as sufficiently scored. She
recommended that the applicant be allowed to increase the FAR to
a maximum of 1 : 1 in the proposed configuration with three roof-
topped penthouse units with four conditions 'Listed in the planning
office memo dated August 7, 1984 . Condition three and four are
carried over from the earlier approval.
I.Tarvey asked if the traffic flow was a prior condition. P c n,,i e
responded that Jay Hammond wanted to male sure that the cars
did not exit on Idain Street , he wanted to make sure that the
alley is used.
Dave Gibson Dresented plans , elevations , and perspectives of
the project. He indicated the old design and compared it to the
new proposal . The new design includes a roof structure with
penthouse units. Pardee asked if the new design complies with
height restrictions in the zone . Gibson answered the ridge
limit is observed. The structure masses toward the southwest
corner , away from the area of most visibility. He indicated
the parking plan and the area Hammond is concerned about . He
confirmed that the parking spaces are regulation spaces.
Harvey said, the original design includes solar devices on the
Stilts. Gibson indicated how the solar assist for hot water
systems will be accommodated in the new design.
Dunaway asked about the height . Gibson replied that 25 feet
to the top of the roof with additional five feet to the ridgeline
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is allowed in the L-3 zone . The thirty foot ridge height is
being observed.
Jasmine Tygre moved to grant special review approval to allow
the Aspen to increase their floor area ratio as proposed and
not to e-.,-ceed the L-3 zone ' s maximum of 1 : 1 by the addition
of three new roof-top units with the following conditions. :
1 . On site water accumulation must be retained and dealt
with on site.
2. A new sidewalk along the west side of Second Street
from 11-lain Street to the alley must be provided.
3 . All lodge traffic shall be required to exit the site
I
via the alley. This eliminates a --Ad-block conflict
on Main Street.
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A . Installation of clearly visible signing to indicate
'"No Exit" on to Main Street. Signing also to indicate
the parking lot exit to the alley.
(Conditions extracted from the planning office memo dated August
7, 1984 . )
The motion is seconded by Lee Pardee .
,,jiscussion. Anderson asked if this is also an amendment to
the GHP submission . Penne e,:plained this is not an amendment
to the 1314P solution but it is a subsequent review. The Commission
does not need to take action to amend a G"P submission. I I u 1 it
as'K.ed if the motion should indicate that the changed that occur. rc-,-.,
was at the Commission' s request. to
the mot-ion: the %'-'o.m-,,,,ission gives the special review ap,, roval --ind
sc
e C D
t`ie Commission allows t"Ie af..-ier cl,.ient o--'L 4 sul ,.,iission bec u- -
It WZ'Is at tIie Commission' s, recluost.
I
Jas lino Tlycfrc, movec] to f)r,'iend IC-lic -,lotion to include : t-nis chang,-%
,7a, s in accordance the -,,')rlor reciuest by the Co-in-mission ;
s°cond',ed 'bv Lee Parcuee . All in `L�avor ; motion carriedi.
I T 1- the Yieeting a- 7 :1 -
�.Iarvev adjourne` �L:
ty City Clerk
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