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Regular Meeting Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission September 5, 1978
The Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission held a regular meeting on September 5,
1978, at 5: 00 PM in the City Council Chambers. Members present were Charles
Collins, Ellen Anderson, Welton Anderson, Donald Ensign and Olaf Hedstrom.
Also present were City Attorney Ron Stock and City Manager Mick Mahoney.
Approval of Minutes Ms. Anderson moved to approve the minutes of August 15,
1978, as amended, Ensign seconded. All in favor, motion
approved.
Goldsmith - Grice introduced the application. He noted that the duplex
Subdivision is located at 793 & 795 Cemetary Lane, zoned R-15. The
Exemption City Engineer has no problems with the application. The
present tenants of one side indicate that they are leaving
the area and the Goldsmith' s intend to sell that unit to
their son. The Goldsmiths occupy the other side.
Danielsen recommends approval subject to a six month mini-
mum lease. The Planning Office recommends approval.
Hedstrom moved to recommend exemption of _-the _.Goldsmith
condominiumization from strict application of the subdivi-
sion regulations inasmuch as their intent and purpose has
been accomplished and it appears there will be no reduction
in the supply of Low and Moderate Income Housing and sub-
ject to the six month minimum lease restriction of Ordinance
53, Ensign seconded, All in favor, motion approved.
A & L Development - Grice introduced the application. He noted an existing
Subdivision duplex half completed. The zoning is R-15 with 30, 000 sqft.
Exemption The existing unit has only been rented once short term.
The second unit has never been occupied and will be sold
for $175, 000 which is out of the employee market. Danielsen
recommends approval with the six month minimum lease re-
striction. The Engineering Department recommends approval
without condition, The Planning Office recommends approval
with the provisions of Ordinance 53.
Hedstrom moved to recommend exemption of the A & L Develop-
ment condominiumization .inasmuch as the intent and purposes
of the subdivision regulations have been met and it appears
there will be no reductions in the supply of Low and Moder-
ate Income Housing and subject to the six month minimum
lease restriction of Ordinance 53, Ensign seconded. All
in favor, motion approved.
430 E. Hopkins - Grice introduced the application. The unit is located on
Subdivision West Hopkins Avenue and South Fourth Street. The zoning
Exemption is R-6 with 9000 sqft. The Engineering Department recom-
mends approval without condition. Danielsen notes that
one side is vacant and the other is occupied by a person
who is not a Low or Moderate Income employee. He recommends
approval subject to the 90 day notification and the right
of first refusal option with six month minimum lease re-
striction.
Hedstrom moved to recommend exemption of the 430 W. Hopkins
condominiumization inasmuch as the intent and purposes of
the regulations have been met and there appears to be no
reduction of Low and Moderate Income Housing and subject
to the six month minimum lease restriction of Ordinance 53,
Ensign seconded. All in favor, motion approved.
Hunter Square - Reents introduced the application. He noted ths,t there
Preliminary Plat is a conflict in the written notification of the public
hearing. Stock suggested they open and table the public
hearing to the next regular meeting.
Collins opened the public hearing.
Jeffrey Sachs Sachs noted that he is a tenant in the Hunter Square Complex.
He stated that condominiumization often affects the taxes
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because of the increase in value. Many leases in town
contain tax escalation clauses which fall on the tenant.
He does not feel this will affect him since there is no
such clause in his lease.
Ensign moved to continue the public hearing and table
action on this item to September 19 , 1978, Ms. Anderson
seconded. All in favor, motion approved.
Golf Course Lots - Reents introduced the application. He submitted a map of
Rezoning the property, Lots 12 & 13, West Aspen Subdivision. It
is currently zoned P-Park and is part of the golf course
property. He submitted copies of letters from out-of-
state property owners. He noted that this is a rezoning
request initiated by the City Council. They request to
rezone to R-15. This will facilitate a land trade for the
Aspen One property adjacent to the Rio Grande site. The
land trade will be two developable lots in the West Aspen
Subdivision of 30, 000 sqft. total for 59, 000 sqft on the
Aspen One site. The Aspen One property will then be re-
zoned P-Park as open recreational space with the Rio Grande
property. This land is planned to become the Riverside
Park Area. Without this acquisition, the proposal be-
comes a park surrounding an incompatible use. This pro-
perty is currently used to house a lumberyard operation .
which is a legal non-conforming use in the zone. He noted
6 advantages and two disadvantages to the trade-off as
itemized in the Planning Office' s memo of August 31, 1978 .
The Planning Office feels the advantages outweigh the
disadvantages. He noted that these are previously sub-
divided lots on the golf course, The Planning Office
recommends approval. Stock felt it an advantageous and
appropriate trade-off, all aspects considered. Reents
noted that all response from surrounding property owners
has been negative. The Open Space Council also opposes it.
He noted a letter from Aaron Sherman who felt he was mis-
lead by the Planning Office who represented the area would
remain open space which affected his decision to purchase
his property.
Collins asked the exact location of the two subdivided
lots. Reents stated they are located on Homestake Drive.
He noted that Lots 6-11 are also zoned P-Park. The City
Engineer' s Office feels that Lots 6-9 are involved within
the Fairway. They do not feel Lots 10-13 are in that Fair-
way.
Ms. Anderson questioned the legality of the proposal..
Stock noted that they are considering rezoning of the
property. The Council will consider the legality and
public interest in the land trade. Stock' s legal opinion
is that it is legal to trade this property.. He noted that
this property was purchased with sixth penny money which
has dedicated uses for the use of this money. If the
people decided by vote to sell the property, the obtained
money would have to go to the sixth penny fund. Similarly,
any trade would necessitate dedication of the property to
the use for which that money was originally envisioned.
Ms. Anderson read the section of the code with which she
was concerned. Stock noted that the property may be traded
but the property obtained must be dedicated to the same use.
Any other type of trade would necessitate a vote.
Ensign asked how many Lots are owned by the City. Stock
said Lots 6-13 are owned by the City and zoned P-Park.
Ensign asked if this would have to go through full sub-
division procedures. Stock said no. He noted that the
development potential for the Aspen One property is
greater under the GMP than that for these two lots. He
noted the complaints from surrounding property owners are
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from two standpoints. The first is the effect on them
of the rezoning and the second is the appropriateness of
the trade.
Mayor Standley was present to offer a presentation.
The Council is asking P&Z to rezone this property. If
they do rezone, they can only sell after a public vote.
They choose to trade for the Aspen One- property. He noted-
that they have been attempting to acquire this property
for at least five years. They have downzoned it twice,
from commercial zoning to R-6 to R-15. It is presently
possible to construct 5 duplexes on this property as zoned.
They have considered several possible uses for this pro-
perty. He noted that the two lots acquired on the golf
course would represent a 1% increase in the lots in the
Snowbunny area. It also represents a less than z% de-
crease in open space. He asked them to weigh the many
advantages against the disadvantages.
Collins asked why these two golf course lots are allowed
duplexes. Reents noted that there are alot of duplexes
in the area.
Collins opened the public hearing.
Chuck Lyons Lyons noted that he is a resident in that area. He pre-
sented a petition with 250 signatures opposing the re-
zoning. He submitted a map showing the location of those
who signed the petition. He noted that there were as
many signatures from downtown people than those who live
in this subdivision. He also noted that there are no
duplexes in that loop. He noted that this land was bought
for open space. They want to retain it for that use.
The City said they did not want shopping centers, etc.
Now they want to develop it. He noted that not one per-
son on the petition is opposed to the Aspen One Property
but they don' t want to lose this open space. Ensign
asked why the people in town were opposed to this. Lyons
said because they feel it should remain open space since
this is what it was bought for. He felt they will sell
lots 6-11 eventually. He noted that they receive
$700, 000 per year from the sixth penny and the golf course
takes $400, 000 per year. Collins asked how many filings
there were on this. Lyons said three. Collins asked if
these properties could have duplexes on them. Lyons said
no, they are all single family. He noted that Lots 16 and
17 are vacant. He feels the residents are complaining
about the method they are using to acquire open space.
He noted that they will not be gaining any open space in
this manner.
Francis Whitaker Whitaker noted that he was not speaking against the ac-
quisition of the Aspen One property. He also noted that
there is no member of City Council or the Planning Com-
mission present that served on those commissions when the
acquisition took place. He stated that Texas International
Petroleum wanted to develop a center on this property. He
served on Council during this action.. They purchased this
212 acres in one package to prevent this development. He
feels it very dangerous to take action against a previous
acquisition that was overwhelmingly supported by the pub-
lic. He read a letter from the Pitkin County Parks Asso-
ciation against the rezoning of this property. He noted
that he was on the Charter Commission that drew up the
Charter. He disagrees with the City Attorney' s interpre-
tation. He urged the P&Z to retain the status of open
space on this property. He also noted that the Council
was in favor of selling the Plum Tree after the acquisi-
tion of this property. The voters turned it down.
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Josephine Mann She read a letter opposing this rezoning.
Jon Mulford Mulford is the Chairman of the Aspen/Pitkin County Open
Space Advisory Board. He read a resolution from the Board
supporting the acquisition of the Aspen One property for
the purpose of open space. They ask that the terms of
settlement be referred to this board for their recommenda-
tion. He feels that the information provided is not ade-
quate for a recommendation to City Council.
Jeff Sachs Sachs spoke in relation to the City Charter. Fie read
Section 13. 4 from the Charter which states that this
question must go to a public vote. He questioned the
method by which Council was introducing this application.
He felt they should table this until Council presents it
in a legal manner.
Bill Dunaway Dunaway, Editor of the Aspen Times, noted that he attended
the Charter meetings and feels the key word in this Charter
section is "held in public use" . He felt this land is not
in public use.
Jeff Sachs Sachs felt that the City Attorney' s interpretation did
not address whether this land is for public use.
Collins noted that the P&3 will follow the ,City Attorney' s
interpretations.
Francis Whitaker Whitaker noted that that land was bought for open space
and has been used by the public ever since.
Aaron Sherman Sherman owns the house directly across from this property.
He purchased it on April 1, 1978 , and was pleased with. the
location and the unobstructed view. He checked with the
Planning Office before purchasing and they assured that
this land was dedicated park and would not be changed to
residential or commercial. He feels he was mislead. He
feels this is a dangerous precedent to set. They do not
object to acquiring the Aspen One property. They dis-
agree with the methods used to acquire it.. They do not
feel this is a trade. He feels there must be other con-
siderations in this trade, be it money or land.
Mayor Standley stated that the City has
maintain no comment on land acquisition
the Charter. He confirmed that this is
noted that there will be a boot for the
balance the trade. He stated that they
written agreement to purchase or trade
the right to
in that manner by
a land trade. He
City to pay to
do not have a
at this point.
Aaron Sherman Sherman noted that the distance from the lot line to
the middle of the tee is 35 feet. He feels the proper
method of acquiring property is through condemnation.
They also have the right of bonding. He noted $325, 000
from the sixth penny that could be used. He said there
are other parcels on the golf course land that could be
traded.
Reents noted land on Cemetary Lane owned by the City and
zoned R-15. However, this property is contiguous with the
larger golf course property and would fall under subdivi-
sion regulations .
Aaron Sherman Sherman stated that he does not object to acquiring the
Aspen One property. He does object to the method of this
acquisition. He could not address the legal side of this .
He felt the City has better methods to acquire this. He
feels they are setting a dangerous precedent and viola-
ting property owners rights .
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Reents noted that although Sherman stated that it is 35
feet to the property line from the tee, that it is
measured to the corner of the lot. He questioned the
possibility of hooking the golf ball onto the property.
He reiterated that the other suggested property would
have to go through full subdivision procedures and is
not being considered.
?anonymous She noted a large line of trees separating the two lots
on Cemetary Lane and there are houses on either side.
The trade of this land would not obstruct views or dis-
turb the residents .
Pat Detweiler She lives on Cemetary Lane. She noted that the residents
always assumed that the two golf course lots were single
family lots. Ensign asked if this was covenanted. She
did not know.
Michael Gassman He feels acquiring the Aspen One property is very worth-
while. He did not feel this is the appropriate way to do
it. He did not feel they should compare the value of
different parcels of open space. He noted the importance
of growth management and its link to open space, He
stressed the meaning of "open" space. He felt they are
contributing to the problem they are trying to solve. He
agrees it is a very small parcel but it is important, He
urged them to support the current zoning.
Stock noted the Charter requires that this acquired land
must be the same use as the original use for the traded ,
property because of the funds used. He asked the P&Z to
consider the affect on the public and surrounding property.
He felt the citizens present should voice their opinions
on whether the property should be traded to the Council.
Edeltroude Lyons She noted that, in circulating the petition, only one
person was in favor, three had no opinion, and the rest
were happy to sign the petition opposing the rezoning,.
She felt the public wants to leave the property at the
present zoning.
Mayor Standley noted that the only party that. voiced their
opinion in this that did not have a vested interest in
this property was the Open Space Advisory Board. He noted
that the Council and the County Commissioners established
the OSAB to determine mechanisms to acquire open space,
to rank and evaluate the relative importance of various
pieces of open space and to recommend trades when neces-
sary. The Board supports this approach although they do
not specifically recommend this trade. He noted that there
have been land trades without the vote of the people. He
felt the people should come to the Council meeting and
voice their opinions on the trade.
Chuck Lyons Lyons asked if they had ever sold park property before.
Standley could not answer.
Edeltroude Lyons Lyons asked if they had ever rezoned to trade property.
Smith said the Creektree property required rezoning.
Lyons asked if the people voiced their opinions. Standley
said the people of Oklahoma Flats objected.
Chuck Lyons Lyons said the reasoning has been "in. the best interest
of the city" and most people present are in objection.
He questioned who is "the city" .
Bill Dunaway Dunaway noted that he does not own property in the area
in question but felt this acquisition is in the best in-
terest of the city. He supported the trade.
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Chuck Lyons Lyons noted that the petition contains 250 signatures
from all over town and felt they should recognize it.
Edeltroude Lyons Lyons asked if they recently bought land for public use.
Mayor Standley noted that the city purchased Triangle Park
last year for about $90, 000.
Collins closed the public hearing.
Collins noted that this is not a legal discussion of the
trading of this property, they must decide on the rezoning.
He did not feel they should consider the possible prece-
dent they would set since it has been previously set.
They must consider the impact of the rezoning. Hedstrom
asked if Collins felt they should consider the rezoning
only as part of the trade and the benefits gained by the
acquisition of the Aspen One Property. Collins said the
City Attorney advised them to consider it in terms of the
overall community. Hedstrom agreed that the acquisition
of the Aspen One property is desirous but felt it pre-
judices the merit of the rezoning. He did not agree with
the rezoning because it violates the original intent of
open space and sets a bad precedent.
Stock did not feel they should consider the merits or
demerits of the trade itself, they should look only at
the rezoning, its consistency with the neighborhood, its
impacts and its consistency with the Master Plan. He noted
that they can condition approval upon deed restricting the
remaining lots for park purposes. He asked that they do
not base their decision on the acquisition of the Aspen
One property. Ensign asked the reasons for not rezoning.
Stock said they must consider the property owners and the
impact on them. Ensign did not feel the viewplane impact
on the property owners a legitimate argument but he felt
the city had represented that this would always remain
open space and this is a crucial point. Stock felt they
were informed that in the past city property has not been
developed. Hedstrom felt that developing on this property
will detract from the city.
Ensign asked if the ballot suggested that this will never
be developed. Stock said the ballot question established
sixth penny sales tax and limited its use. He felt the
Council used this property as an example. Ensign felt
this should be a matter for a referendum. He felt they
should approve the rezoning in order for Council to con-
sider the bigger question of the trade. He felt they
should recommend a referendum to determine the use of this
property with their rezoning approval. W. Anderson could
not see a good reason for rezoning except for the trade.
Hedstrom agreed with this . He noted that it had not been
shown that failure to rezone would make acquisition of the
Aspen One impossible. He felt there are larger elements
in this than property acquisition.
Collins did not feel they should include the referendum
recommendation since the Council will determine whether
this is legally necessary. Ms. Anderson asked if they
had any guarantee on the use of the golf course property
if rezoned. Stock said the limitation on the use of the
property is through the funds originally used to acquire
the property. Ensign asked if the lots on Chatfield were
sold. Reents said half of them are developed and most
are sold.
recommend
Ensign moved that the P&ZAto Council rezoning of Lots
12 & 13, Filing #2, West Aspen Subdivision, inasmuch as
it conforms to the intents and purposes of the zoning
ordinance and with the provision that Lots 6 - 11 be per-
manently deed restricted to their current use,
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Ms. Anderson seconded. Hedstrom could not find any reason
to rezone these lots. Ensign felt it is for the public
good. W. Anderson felt that open space should stay open
space and opposed the rezoning.
Roll call vote: Hedstrom, nay; Ensign, aye; W. Anderson,
nay; Ms. Anderson, aye; Collins, aye; motion approved.
Aspen Club Rezoning Reents introduced the application. He indicated the lo-
cation on a map. He stated that this is an application
for zoning of a parcel of land within the Callahan Sub-
division which, by resolution, has been recommended for
annexation. Part 4 of the resolution charges the P&Z to
zone the parcel R-R with a PUD overlay. The Planning
Office supports the zoning. The Engineering Department
wishes to work out a public road right-of-way as opposed
to an easement. Ensign asked what is the minimum lot size
of Rural Residential. Reents said two acres minimum.
Collins opened the public hearing. There were no comments
from the public. Collins closed the public hearing.
Ensign moved to rezone the Aspen Club property to RR/PUD
inasmuch as it conforms to the intents and purposes of
the zoning ordinance with the provision that the road
right-of-way be worked out with the City Engineer prior
to rezoning, Hedstrom seconded. All in favor, motion
approved.
Alpine Hardware and Grice introduced the application. He stated that the
Pitkin Appliance, applicants wish to relocate the Alpine Hardware and
Conditional Use the Pitkin Appliance Company into space located in the
Trueman Commercial Project. The Trueman Commercial is
under an SPA plan. The uses allowed are the same as in
the SCI and NC zone. The Planning Office recommends
approval.
Hedstrom moved to approve the Alpine Hardware and Pitkin
Appliance application for conditional use determination
for an appliance and hardware store in the Trueman Com-
mercial Project inasmuch as those uses are defined as
conditional and within the intent of the N/C zone, Ensign
seconded. All in favor, motion approved.
Slope Reduction Joe Wells of the Planning Office felt the present slope
Revision reduction formula is totally uninterpretable. He dis-
cussed several problems with the present formula. The
Planning Office proposes a calculation based on the per-
centage of slope. They propose that 0-20% would get full
density credit, 20-30 would receive 50% credit, 30-400
would receive 25% credit and anything over 40% would not
receive any credit. He gave two examples of property and
what they would be allowed to build under the new formula.
Ensign asked if this new formula is as restrictive as the
old. Wells said it is equally restrictive assuming that
steep slopes are less developable than flatter ones.
Collins opened the public hearing. Collins continued the
public hearing.
Definition of Collins opened the public hearing. Collins continued the
Subgrade public hearing to the next meeting, September 19, 1978 .
Ensign moved to continue the public hearing on the Slope
Reduction Revision and the Definition of Subgrade,
Ms . Anderson seconded. All in favor, motion approved.
W. Anderson moved to adjourn the meeting, Ensign seconded.
All in favor, motion approved. Meeting adjourned at
7 : 45 PM,
Sher Simmen, Deputy City Clerk