HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.apz.19780706 BRADFORD PUBLISHING CO.,DENVER R E C O R D OF P R O C E E D I N G S
Regular Meeting As en Planning and Zoning Commission
___jRLy 6, 1978
The Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission held a regular meeting on July 6, 1978 ,
at 5: 00 PM in the City Council Chambers. Members present were Charles Collins,
Welton Anderson, Donald Ensign, Olaf Hedstrom and Joan Klar. Also present were
Karen Smith and Richard Grice of the Planning Office, City Attorney Ronald Stock,
and City Engineer Dave Ellis.
Approval of Minutes Ensign moved to table action on the minutes, Hedstrom
seconded. All in favor, motion approved.
FAR Collins noted that the Planning Office tabled this item.
Report of Hedstrom noted that Ensign wrote a memo of the committee ' s
Transportation findings. He submitted the report. Collins asked the
Committee status of the parking structure. Ensign stated that the
parking structure has been tabled until completion of the
Transportation Study by the City and County. Collins
asked Grice to get an update on the status of the Trans-
portation Committee. Collins accepted the report of the
P&Z Transportation Committee,
Environetics Grice introduced the application. Environetics is a local
Use Determination interior design firm. The applicants wish to relocate to
Conditional Use the Trueman Commercial Center. The uses listed on the
final plat of the Trueman Commercial Center are the same
as the N/C and S/C/I zone. The uses include a builders
supply store, paint and wallpaper store, carpet, flooring,
drapery, etc. The intent of the N/C zone is to encourage
one stop shopping. Grice questioned the percentage of
business from their services and the percentage from
their supplies. The use is inappropriate if their inter-
ior design services outweigh their supplies.
Larry Yaw, architect for the Trueman Center, introduced
Jerry Toole of Environetics. Yaw noted that the uses of
Environetics are listed in the code as conditional uses.
He noted that their main emphasis in their present location
is design because of the size. Their emphasis in their
new location will be their furnishings. Toole said they
are primarily a furniture outlet. He noted that this is
not an every day item store but it does serve local needs.
Grice noted that this zone is for every day uses , He noted
the Commercial Core is appropriate for uses such as this.
Yaw noted that this is a conditional use. He stated that
there is no space in Aspen to accomodate this size of a
display floor. He feels it is an appropriate use for this
zone.
Collins asked the size of their two stores , Vail and Aspen.
Toole noted that there is also a store in Breckenridge.
The sizes are Vail, 3, 000 sqft. ; Breckenridge, 1, 000 sqft. ;
Aspen, 350 sqft. Collins asked for an inventory of the
items in their stores. Toole said they represent over
120 lines of furniture, they stock part of this on site.
They are sold off the floor and out of a warehouses The
items include contemporary dining room and living room
furniture, carpet, drapes, etc. They estimate 90% sales
from their products and 10% from their services. Collins
asked how much of the 90% would be sold off the floor.
Toole estimated 75% .
Collins opened the public hearing. There were no comments
from the public. Collins closed the public hearing.
Collins noted his concern with the percentage of retail
versus design services. Yaw stated that the design ser-
vices would use 150 of the 1700 sqft, The displays, which
are primarily two dimensional, would use 300 sqft. The
remaining would be the floor displays of the furniture,
Hedstrom felt that 75% of the 90% sold off the floor was
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high. He felt they would need to order and deliver alot
of their merchandise. Yaw said this is an alternative to
driving to Denver for such specialized needs. Ensign asked
the price per square foot of the space. Yaw said $11/sqft.
Collins felt they needed more information on the operation
and the layout. He did not find this like a paint store.
He felt it important to meet the demands of a convenience
center which is the intent of the NC zone antedta
floor plan and documents showing the types and
of the items and services .
Joan Klar entered the meeting.
Hedstrom did not feel the requested information would
affect the substance of the application, He did not feel
this is in the intent of the NC zone. Anderson asked if
there are any similar operations in Aspen to compare with
this application. Yaw offered that Aspen Furniture is
similar. Ensign read the conditional uses in the NC zone.
He felt the uses are similar with those listed in the code.
Grice noted that conditional uses are not permitted uses.
Smith felt that people will go to this store exclusively
instead of stopping by while grocery shopping, etc.
Ensign felt that this is a personalized service, not a
high volume supplier. He felt the professional office
an added extra. Hedstrom did not feel this would generate
substantially more traffic but could not justify this with
the code. Collins felt that mixing uses of the NC and CC
zones will cause both to malfunction. He also noted the
convenience of parkin g there if one buys ten gallons
paint.
Yaw felt this serves more needs since it fills 4 or 5 of
the conditional uses in one use. Klar felt this meets a
neighborhood need. Yaw stated that there is 42000 sgft,
of commercial space in this center including the grocery.
Grice asked if this would set a precedent for conditional
uses. Collins noted that each case is taken separately
on its own merits. Klar asked if there is any more space it
available in ose toubeingCfullrciae n.otedrthata d
there are
was pretty cl
enough applicants for all the space..
Ensign moved to find Environetics a use permitted con„
ditionally in the NC zone under the catagories of wall-
paper store, carpet, flooring, drapery shop, business
and professional office, Klar seconded, Roll call vote:
Klar, aye; Anderson, aye; Ensign, aye; He
Collins, nay; motion approved.
Ensign moved to approve the use proposed by Environetics
conditionally, Klar seconded. Roll call vote: Klar, aye;
Anderson, aye; Ensign, aye; Hedstrom, nay; Collins , nay;
motion approved.
Aspen Club Smith noted that Recreation Clubs are a conditional use
Conditional Use in the Rural Residential District, Any expansion to the
conditional use must be approved by P&Z . She noted the
PUD Plat Amendment that was approved a few weeks ago.
The criteria to determine a conditional use expansion are,
1) the proposed use complies with the requirements in the
code (area and bulk requirements, etc. ) f 2) the proposed
use is consistent with the objectives and purposes of the
zone district, 3) the proposed use is compatible with
surrounding land uses and uses in the area. Smith read
the intents and purposes of the Rural Residential District.
She noted the adjacent land uses are the Benedict office
Building, single family residences and condominiums, The
club was originally intended to serve the needs of the
Callahan Subdivision. Conditions have changed since that
original application and the club now serves the commu-
nity. Smith did not feel it continues to be compatible
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with surrounding land uses. She noted a traffic problem.
She felt compatibility with adjacent land uses is affected
by the location of the building improvements on the west
side of the building and the proposed tennis court to the
west of the existing tennis courts. The new court is at
the property line. It will cut out a major buffer ridge
which would be replaced by a retaining wall. The existing
building is massive but was camoflaged by the natural
ridge. She noted the Planning Office memos of June 30,
June 16, 1978 and the application dated May 24 , 1978 .
Jim Reents of the Planning Office noted that the proposed
bubble over the proposed tennis court will cut into a
ridge line and will be visible above the ridge line. He
asked if they propose artificial lighting for the courts.
Anderson said there will be lighting in the bubble. He
noted that the bubble is tan. Huss noted that the lights
will be about 12-14 ' high and the hours will be 7AM-10PM.
Huss noted that the bubble will be removed in April and
replaced when the weather necessitates it.
Ashley Anderson, representing the applicant, noted a land-
scaping plan. He noted that they are moving the ridge.
He showed the plans on a map. He noted that the tennis
bubble would not be visible from grade. He stated that
the fire access has been moved next to the building.
Smith noted that the zoning is Rural Residential with a
PUD overlay. The setbacks are set through the PUD. She
felt the landscape plan unrealistic since they must re-
move all the natural vegetation. The landscape architect
stated that their landscape plan would restore the natural
vegetation within 2-3 years. They propose trees with a
12-2" caliper which is about 15 ' tall. Klar asked if
they intend to save the trees they will remove, The ar-
chitect said it is possible with the aid of an expert.
Another architect noted that the trees and vegetation that
they will install will not be all the same height or type.
Hedstrom asked how far they would have to cut into this
ridge. The architect said they are moving the entire
ridge. Huss stated that they have a real concern for this
and they intend to replace all the trees and vegetation..
Anderson stated that the Aspen trees are 2" in diameter
and the evergreens are 4" . He said they will attempt
to transplant as many trees as possible.
Collins opened the public hearing,
Gideon Kaufman Kaufman's office has been in the Benedict Building for
three and one half years. He is also a member of the
club. His office is the closest to the proposed tennis
court. He feels it is too close to the building even
with the proposed landscape. He can hear people playing
on the other courts at present,. He feels it is incom-
patible with the uses of the office building. Anderson
asked if he had any objections to the building expansion.
Kaufman said no.
Fritz Benedict Benedict showed the expansion on a map. He stated that
he has no objections to the expansion, He noted that
the downtown area requires 250 open space. He objected
to the south side of the building where a water line was
installed and there have been no attempts to manicure
the disturbance to the land, He provided a sketch of
what the area may look like after the expansion.
He noted that Aspen trees are extremely difficult to
transplant. He did not feel the area could be revegetated
in 2-3 years. One of the architects asked the height
of the viewpoint in the picture. Benedict estimated it
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was from the second floor.
One of the architects noted 20 ' of natural plant material
that would not be disturbed. Benedict noted his objection
was to the tennis court, not the expansion.
Michael Teschner Teschner noted that it is difficult to
get a tennis court. He thought it would be nice to have
one more.
Welton Anderson asked if they would be willing to have
only 4 new racquet ball courts instead of 6. Huss said
they have researched their needs and determined the
exact amounts for the best operation of the club. Welton
noted that he would be in favor of the proposal if they
deleted the tennis court in question. Ashley Anderson
noted that their racquet ball courts are more important
than their tennis court.
Huss noted that many people that come to the club are
amazed at how the building is incorporated into the
natural surroundings. Smith said that is what they are
attempting to preserve. Huss said they intend to pre-
serve this effect with their landscape plan.
Hedstrom did not feel tennis courts are open space. He
felt that the whole project benefits from the Benedict
property and its open space. He questioned whether this
expansion was a benefit to the community. Collins felt
the impact on the area was important. He noted that this
was originally intended to serve the residents of the
Callahan subdivision and has evolved into a sports arena.
He noted that the zoning is still Rural Residential.
lie had reservations that a facility of that scope in that
zone should be allowed to expand. He agreed with the
Planning Office' s concerns about traffic , open space and
the destruction of the buffer ridge. Ensign was con-
cerned with the tennis court. Klar noted that there are
no objections from adjacent property owners to the expan-
sion, other than Benedict who objects to the tennis court.
She felt the whole city needs more tennis courts but that
this one court has many objectionable points. She felt
they had done a good job of massing in the building ex-
pansion plan. Welton Anderson asked Benedict's opinion
of the total expansion.
Fritz Benedict Benedict asked that they remove the tennis court and
consider changing the proposed entrance.
Welton Anderson objected to tearing up the natural berm.
He felt this is the only protection for the Benedict
Building. He felt they could achieve their goal by re-
designing it. He objected to the tennis court, Hedstrom
objected to the tennis court and the destruction of the
natural ridge. He felt it would take many years to re-
store the ridge to its natural vegetation.
Ashley Anderson deleted the tennis court from the appli-
cation. He noted that the vegetation that was disturbed
from the water line would be restored,. He stated that
the berm will be saved.
Collins closed the public hearing.
Hedstrom moved to approve the conditional use of the
Aspen Club expansion under the following conditions:
1) West additional tennis court adjacent to the Benedict
Office property be deleted, 2) the footprint of the
additional court building be changed to conform to the
suggestions of Mr. Benedict, 3) the landscaping of the
property adjacent to the Benedict property that has not
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been completed be pushed to early completion, 4) the
potential traffic increases caused by the expansion
be minimized as described in the PUD Subdivision amend-
ment recommended for approval by the Planning and Zoning
Commission on June 20, 1978 , Anderson seconded. Roll
call vote: Klar, aye; Anderson, aye; Ensign, aye;
Hedstrom, aye; Collins, nay; motion approved.
Manor House
Preliminary Plat Smith introduced the application. The applicant wishes
to condominiumize nine units in the Lodge-1 District.
She submitted the Planning Office memo of June 30, 1978 ,
Dave Ellis' memo of June 28 , 1978 , letter from Lyle
Reeder, a copy of the preliminary plat, for the record.
She noted the conditions of clarifying road easements,
maximizing the parking, committing one studio unit to
employee housing under the conditions stated in the
letter from Marty Kahn of February 28 , 1978 , and 90 day
right of first refusal. The change from the conceptual
plan is a reduction in three bedroom units. Smith noted
that Ellis ' concerns could be satisfied prior to the
final plat. Ellis also wants an updated title commit-
ment.
Collins opened the public hearing.
Ensign moved to continue the public hearing and table
action on this condominium application until the next
regular meeting, Hedstrom seconded. All in favor,
motion approved.
Ensign moved to adjourn the meeting, Klar seconded.
All in favor, motion approved. Meeting adjourned at
7 : 30 PM.
ery Simmen, Deputy City Clerk