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REGULAR MEETING COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION JULY 3, 2019
Chairperson Jeb Ball opened the meeting at 8:40 a.m.
Commissioners in attendance: Jeb Ball, Kiki Raj, Bill Dinsmoor, Angi Wang, Steve Fante, Amanda Tanaka.
Absent were Charles Cunniffe and Terry Butler.
Staff present:
Nicole Henning, Deputy City Clerk
Mitch Osur, Parking Services Director
Other attendees: Councilman Ward Hauenstein
MOTION: Ms. Wang moved to approve the minutes of June 19th, Mr. Fante seconded. All in favor,
motion carried.
PUBLIC COMMENT: None.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS: None.
NEW BUSINESS: Pure Barre
Mr. Ball recapped the meeting with Jordan Bullock of Pure Barre from the last meeting for Mr. Dinsmoor
who was absent. He walked with Ms. Strickland after the last meeting and they both agreed there isn’t
enough room to add another booth. Ms. Bullock said she’s not on good enough terms with Ms. Gottlieb
to share her booth, so we want to be helpful but play within the rules. What he and Ms. Strickland
noticed is that Rossignol put up a tent right in front of their retail store and she could possibly do the
same thing or put up a sandwich board to attract attention. She will not be open until sometime in July.
They walked the adjacent street and there is a small 4 ft space where she could put a cycle bar bike or
something, but it’s away from her space and wouldn’t make much sense. Mr. Ball said he will go back to
Ms. Bullock to report the findings and suggest that she can have a sandwich board or set up a presence
in the foyer or perhaps approach Ms. Gottlieb about sharing her booth space.
Mr. Dinsmoor asked if Mr. Osur had spoken to Mr. True about the change for next year regarding the
retail spaces. Mr. Osur said yes, and he is ok with this and suggested the board go to city council in
Sept/Oct and get their support. Everyone is happy with the plan so far, so we just need council to agree
that this is ok.
Ms. Raj entered the meeting.
Mr. Ball asked Mr. Hauenstein what his impression is of what the board is proposing. Mr. Hauenstein
said he thinks CCLC’s best defense is to have procedure and protocol for ranking and entry. The rules
apply to all of us.
Mr. Osur said we can easily defend our Colorado made and grown products and we want to keep it that
way.
Mr. Hauenstein said he is inclined to support it.
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Mr. Dinsmoor said it is our job to present dynamic ideas to council and sometimes they approve it. Mr.
Fante said we need to be careful and not bite off more than we can chew and that is what he has seen
happen so far.
Ms. Wang asked how many people applied for the market in total and Mr. Ball said 130 or so and we
accepted 60 some. Mr. Osur said it’s a wash by moving forward with the new retail idea. We don’t lose
booth space and it’s a win-win for the market.
Mr. Ball said he will take Ms. Tanaka with him to speak with Ms. Bullock and that will be settled.
Ms. Henning updated them about the board interviews next Tuesday. She told them John Starr is the
only candidate to apply so far. Mr. Fante said he does not want to reapply, and resigning doesn’t feel
good.
Mr. Ball mentioned Wendy at Meat & Cheese and said he will go speak with her.
Mr. Dinsmoor said they had a national restaurant association here previously. They felt like they were
doing their duty and representing. The problem with restaurants is that they have late nights, so it’s
hard to recruit. They are definitely under represented through ACRA and here. It’s really sad. The
retailers are not much better. We tried many times to form a retail association and it was very difficult
to do. It will be an ongoing issue for a long time.
Ms. Wang mentioned Candace with Locals and said she would speak with her.
Mr. Hauenstein suggested Bob Morris with Aspen Bed & Breakfast. He’s also an attorney.
Ms. Raj said she still thinks they should have a weed person. It’s an enormous part of the business
community. Mr. Hauenstein said there was one who also applied for APCHA and he can find out who.
CCLC’s relationship with ACRA:
Mr. Ball said there are two silos and there’s got to be a way to bridge that gap. We have a similar
objective and some overlap. We are two organizations that should work together with a common
vision. Having a repaired relationship would benefit both. Mr. Fante agreed and said the issue he ran
into, when he approached them, is that they had no desire to have a relationship with us. He tried to
talk to Debbie Braun and suggested they talk to Ms. Braun again. Mr. Ball said he has a good
relationship with her and so does Ms. Wang. He doesn’t see any harm in trying again and he is also on
their marketing board.
Mr. Osur said he’s been working with Ms. Braun recently. At the next meeting, we need to brainstorm,
and it would be great for CCLC to start doing more outreach and communication. We should help frame
conversations. Ms. Raj said they need a way in that won’t be met with resistance. Mr. Ball said we need
to figure out what we can bring to the table. It’s easier to take something to bite off and take a trojan
horse approach. Mr. Osur suggested that he, Mr. Ball and Ms. Wang should all go speak with Ms. Braun
in person.
Mr. Dinsmoor thinks that small potatoes is small potatoes and asked how it advances the ball. He asked
for an example of starting out small. Mr. Osur said Food & Wine, Saturday market, outdoor dining, etc.
Those were all really small things that grew. We’re in this together and better together. That’s the
message we’re trying to come to.
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Mr. Osur exited the meeting.
Ms. Tanaka exited the meeting.
Mr. Dinsmoor asked Mr. Hauenstein if there are alarm bells going off with council to only represent high
end chains and asked how one ever reels it back and said this won’t end well. Mr. Hauenstein said to
have a philanthropic person buy a building would be better to keep these funky businesses in town. Ms.
Wang agreed and said she has pitched this idea but doesn’t know how to get it going. They can’t have
too many people involved and there needs to be a feel-good value for them.
Ms. Raj said that high end isn’t necessarily hitting a home run either. We’ve had a lot leave town
recently too. Mr. Fante said he thinks San Francisco is a good model and they have really protected
their neighborhoods.
Mr. Dinsmoor asked how much of an impact could we have by having a compactor in each alley because
it cuts down on trash truck time going back and forth and frees up having dumpster containers, etc.
Mr. Ball said the Environmental Health department said no way and the cats outta the bag on that topic.
MOTION: Ms. Raj motioned to adjourn, Mr. Fante seconded. All in favor, motion carried.
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Nicole Henning, Deputy City Clerk
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NEW BUSINESS: Kathy Strickland - Update on the market
Ms. Strickland said Shaun’s Towing has been very effective and everyone was off the street before she
got there. The first market was very successful and there were a lot of people who said it was their best
market ever. She brought up the electrical bills she received from Linda Chi and she verified for Mr.
Osur that she did not ask for any of the new outlets. Mr. Ball said there was obviously a communication
snafu. Ms. Strickland noted that the rest of the money is allocated to music for the market. Mr. Osur
said he and Mr. Ball will go speak with Andy Rossello today. The board agreed that it is better to have
music.
Mr. Osur also mentioned us getting on the calendar and going to speak with council.
Mr. Cunniffe gave Ms. Strickland a couple of contacts for music in the market.
PRESENTATION: Jeff Pendarvis of Asset and Jess Robison of Concept One Group
Mr. Pendarvis said they want to make sure to have as much public outreach on this project as possible.
They want to make sure this project is transparent. We’ve had numerous interactions and feel like we
have been engaging. He went on to show the project highlights on screen and walked through it with
the board.
The board agreed that they found the presentation very helpful and answered a lot of questions.
NEW BUSINESS: Newsletter
Mr. Ball took the last newsletter that they did and stripped it down to create the next one. He said he
needs Ms. Wang’s help on page 1 and will keep page 2 as the interview. He needs Ms. Tanaka’s help
with this and page 3 will be dedicated to engagement zones. He would like to interview Mr. Osur for
this. He said the goal is to have this out by the first of next week. We have created a database and we
need to go talk someone about getting more email addresses. These will go out via email this time.
Ms. Tanaka moved the conversation back to the Saturday Market and suggested having an event to
celebrate the retailers and say, we know you can’t be in it, but here’s what we can do. Something along
these lines to support the businesses, so it offsets all the negativity.
Mr. Osur liked that idea and also suggested doing a lady’s night the first Tuesday in December and do a
men’s night the following Tuesday. Ms. Wang said we could mention this in the next newsletter as well.
We could serve wine, cheese and drinks.
Mr. Osur said he spoke with Sara Ott and she wants to come up with rules/regs of what is expected
regarding alleyways. She wants to bring in 5-6 dumpsters and have an alleyway cleaning day in October
or so. This will be a good starting place to have a dumpster day of sorts. He said we should put this idea
on the agenda for the next couple of times and think about a date for October.
MOTION: Ms. Wang motioned to adjourn, Mr. Ball seconded.
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MOTION: Mr. Fante moved to adjourn, Mr. Ball seconded. All in favor, motion carried at 10:58 a.m.
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Nicole Henning, Deputy City Clerk