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610 West End (The Gant) — PUD Amendment 2
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Special City Planning & Zoning Meeting—Minutes January 15, 2013
LJ Erspamer opened the regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission
for January 15, 2013 in Sister Cities Meeting Room at 4:30. Commissioners
present were Stan Gibbs, Jasmine Tygre, Cliff Weiss, Bert Myrin, Cliff Weiss,
Ryan Walterscheid, LJ Erspamer and Keith Goode. Jim DeFrancia was not in
attendance. Staff present were Debbie Quinn, Assistant City Attorney; Jennifer
Phelan, Deputy City Community Development Director, Jessica Garrow,
Community Development; Jackie Lothian, Deputy City Clerk.
Comments
Bert Myrin asked about the update to Council and how that was coming. LJ asked
if anyone would like a copy of that list. Bert said the future agendas seem fairly
light. Jennifer said there were some additions.
Jessica said there was a work session scheduled on February 4th with Council
starting at 5 pm; Council will go over their priorities as it relates to the Community
Department work program. Jessica said they would attach P&Z original memo as
part of that packet and the update of things that Community Development is
already working on.
Disclosure of Conflicts of Interest
Cliff stated that his best friend worked at the Gant but didn't feel that had any
influence on him.
Public Hearing:
610 West End Street— The Gant— PUD Amendment
LJ Erspamer opened the public hearing for The Gant. Jessica Garrow presented
the notices to Debbie Quinn. Debbie said that she has reviewed the notice and the
posting did have the correct year. Jessica said this is a public hearing for the Gant
at 610 West End Street with Donnie Lee representing them and Alan Richman and
Sarah Broughton.
Jessica said this was a remodel and to expand the conference facilities. Jessica
used power point to show the area where the Gant was located and meeting spaces.
Jessica said right now the conference facility has 2 kitchens, an exercise area,
meeting room space and office, bar general purpose area, restrooms and a large
interior deck between the site and the conference area. They were also
consolidating the 2 kitchens into one more efficient one, changing the location of
the office, updating/remodeling the restrooms, adding new storage under the
parking area, reconfiguring the conference space and the general purpose area into
a cafe space. The major addition and change is that they are uncovering the
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deck/patio area that is internal to the site and adding a rooftop bar area and deck.
Jessica stated in terms of size it is going from approximately 4500 square feet of
floor area to about 6400 square feet of floor area; in terms of height it is now at 22
feet 11 inches and will go to 25 feet in height. This is in the R-15 zone district
with a lodge and a PUD overlay. This is a non-confirming use and that is why they
have the lodge overlay to allow the short term rental use.
Jessica said that there was a detached trash enclosure that is proposed to become
attached and consolidated into the building. Jessica said the street presence isn't
very good so they talked about adding in some windows, better entry features,
better landscaping and benches. The structure is setback 50 feet from Ute Avenue
for the roof top bar area.
Cliff said that you are looking for additional fenestration on Ute Avenue and he
doesn't see much. Jessica showed the new window element and the entry was
more prominent and landscaping with a bench and an added sidewalk.
Stan asked if this was a renovation of the building or was it going to raze the
building and start over. Jessica replied it was renovation and expansion so the
bones of the building are staying and there is a storage area under the parking lot
and the roof element is an addition.
Bert said the code lets P&Z decide things that aren't decided by the Community
Development Director so what was in the list of things the Community
Development Director couldn't decide so he passed it onto P&Z. Jessica replied
that staff felt that it was a significant change that P&Z should weigh in on. Alan
said the dimensional standard gets varied. Bert said they we going from 4500
square feet to 6400 square feet, roughly 2000 square feet more so in that change is
there any mitigation required. Jessica replied this is one where it doesn't trigger a
growth management review; this is under the Growth Management Section of the
code that is considered non-unit space. Jessica said that the only things that would
go through are lodge pillows, lodge units, residential units and commercial space
and it doesn't fall into those categories. Jessica said it is strictly a PUD review.
Bert wanted to know what was the appropriate square footage, what do we use the
neighborhood and context. Jessica answered in the situation you look at the
building and what is happening on Ute Avenue; most of improvements are
happening in the interior. Jessica said we are not going to have a significant
impact on the neighborhood.
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Jasmine asked when the original PUD was approved wasn't an FAR established.
Jessica replied this is part of the odd history of the Gant and it was originally
approved under the AR-1 Zone District and then there were a series of down
zonings in the early 1980s and this and many other properties were rezoned to R-
15 so they became non-conforming uses and non-conforming structures. The PUD
was not created until the 1980s then it was just kind of added, it didn't outline any
kind of dimensional requirements so over the years they have come in for some
PUD Amendments. Jessica said they need to add an ADA elevator and a check in
area. Alan said that there were not very good documents in the old files.
LJ asked if we were going to make the non-conforming a conforming use now.
Jessica replied that it was made conforming when the lodge and PUD overlay was
added. LJ asked if it was lodge or multi-family. Jessica answered it was
residential multi-family with the ability to short term; it is truly a hybrid.
Stan asked if there was a change in use because of the roof top bar. Jessica replied
yes, there is an existing bar there now and Donnie can speak more to this on how it
changes their operation and the added storage. Stan asked if there has been any
concern for that roof top facility from any neighbors. Jessica answered that one of
the reasons that staff is supportive of this is really a 2 foot increase in height of
what is there now; it was a very minimal increase and so far setback and does not
encroach into a view plane in this area. Stan said but you wouldn't currently have
a group of 50 people on the roof on the conference center. Jessica replied that they
would be on the interior deck.
Cliff said that if conference facilities were expanding they would have more part-
time employees but that doesn't trigger. Jessica responded that it does not; it
wasn't under staff or P&Z purview.
Alan Richman introduced himself and stated that he represented the Gant
Homeowners Association and there were several folks present Donnie Lee, the
general manager of the Gant, Sarah Broughton of Rowland Broughton Architects
and Scott McCale of Rowland Broughton Architects. Alan said they have
reviewed the staff report and are very pleased with their approach and
recommendation. Alan said the Gant is a 143 unit project located between Waters
Avenue and Ute; the neighborhood around the Gant was very similar that it was a
mix of uses that includes single family and multi-family residential units. Alan
said 120 units were rented all the time and the conference center has that dual
character; it is accessory to and it supports both sides of the Gant, the residential
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and lodging activities. Alan said they have done an enhanced public notice and
outreach with the neighbors and there was no one here objecting tonight.
Donnie said this conversation began a couple of years ago with the Board and
some homeowners and accelerated once we brought on Rowland & Broughton and
talked about concepts and to a presentation to the entire ownership at the annual
meeting this past year in June of 2012. Additional conversations continued
through the summer and a vote this fall of 75% of the ownership supported this
project. Donnie said the Conference Center had a remodel 15 years ago but really
didn't address a lot of other issues so the context of the conversations were what
does the Conference Center need to be for the Gant and well into the future. The
Conference Center supports the rental operation of the Gant and most of the
owners participate in it so they are intimate with that understanding. Donnie stated
that it houses the bathrooms for the pools and houses our recreational area so there
is a lot of day use of the Conference Center and have had to be cognizant of the
units that are adjacent to the Conference Center. The "J" building is the closest to
the Conference Center and closer than any neighbors; they did send out
information to the Clarendon, the Ute Place Homeowners Association, and the
owners up and down Ute Avenue.
Sarah utilized power point to show the existing and what is proposed that were in
the drawing section Exhibit B. Sarah said there was an elevator added 15 years
ago which does not meet any code and that is one of the things that they are trying
to amend working with the building department. There are currently non-
compliant ADA bathrooms for the pool and Conference Center. Sarah said the
proposal was to push the ground level out to keep up with the market studies.
Sarah said the proposal was a central stair and elevator, a cafe to be used for people
who use the Gant and the current lobby of the Gant is not really a lobby with no
welcome area so that is what the cafe space is meant to be. The lodge room
remains the same; the kitchen is getting enlarged and the downstairs kitchen is
being consolidated with the upstairs kitchen, the mechanical and walk-ins are
being added and the trash enclosure is being revised. The subgrade exercise room
is being revised and the bathrooms are being reworked so one half functions for the
pool and the other half could function to the conference area. Sarah said the
elevator will go all the way up to the deck level and it is not a public bar it is really
a reception room and restricted hours will be placed on it.
Cliff asked if there was a lodge room inside the conference center. Sarah replied
that it was just called that it was a reception area. LJ asked to describe where the
deck is located. Sarah replied that currently there was a deck facing the pool and
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half the size it currently is and a deck on the roof. Donnie said the existing deck
faces the pool into the property.
Sarah said that they are keeping the big spruce tree and some glacial boulders on
the Ute Avenue side adding some low landscaping, a bench, window, refining the
doorway and a wider sidewalk. Sarah said the existing pool and spas and deck are
being kept and adding that cafe area.
Alan said the proposal needs to be an enhancement of existing conditions; the
conference facilities that exist today do not meet the expectations of conference
attendees nor do they function well in today's market. The rooms are dated in
terms of styling, they don't offer break out capabilities and the kitchen becomes
one efficient facility. Currently there are no ADA facilities and the accessibility is
an enhancement in itself. Alan asked the commission to support the proposal.
Cliff asked if they having group check-in at the conference area. Alan said the
reception area was still the check-in but if someone has their bags and doesn't want
to wait in the check-in area there is a room planned to log onto their computers, get
a snack and wait for their bus or whatever. Donnie said that it was a 40 year old
design that has served well for a number of things but they wanted to have a
reception at night and it doesn't allow the Gant to do 2 things simultaneously with
this you can sit down.
Bert said from the application package 4.1 showed the proposed elevator but not
the elevator overrun on the roof. Sarah stated that it was up in this flat roof area.
Bert asked if there was an overrun for that flat elevator. Sarah replied no. Jessica
said it was all interior to the bar area; one of the things staff likes is they have done
a good job of consolidating all this stuff that happens on the roof. Jessica said
there is the bar area and the elevator to access that space is enclosed within the
same structure so there is no additional overrun, that is separate. Bert said every
other building has had another overrun. Jessica said this is a 2 story building and
they have incorporated a bar area into the elevator overrun and all done within the
25 foot height limit of the zone district. Sarah said she spoke to Scott and said the
elevator would cost more money but one does not come above the building limit.
Donnie said the other elevators do not go above that deck. U asked if that was a
hydraulic elevator that you are putting in here. Sarah replied yes and right now
they are between 2 elevators; one is $30,000.00 less that does poke up 2 feet above
the roof and then there is one that is $30,000.00 more that keeps it within the roof
height. Sarah said if we go with the negative $30,000.00 elevator there is a 2 foot
pop up. Bert asked if that would happen at building permit and not P&Z. Jessica
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replied that it would happen at building permit because the code allows up to 5 feet
or 10 feet depending upon the different mechanical.
Bert asked about the glass panel on the roof. Sarah replied that is in the guard rail
surrounding the deck. Bert asked about the roof not being canopied or tented and
leave it up all winter. Jessica replied no, they could have a 7 day tent that is
allowed in our code for a private event but they could not tent over it on a seasonal
basis because that would trigger an additional review. Bert asked if that review
would be P&Z or just staff. Jessica answered it depends on the duration of that
which would be a temporary use review that would go to city council or it would
be a PUD Amendment that would go to P&Z or P&Z and Council.
LJ asked if there were hot tubs going up on that deck. Donnie replied no. LJ
asked if there were limited hours of operation to the top deck. Donnie replied yes,
they were in a residential area and they don't allow anything past 10 o'clock unless
it is interior. LJ asked if the kitchen facilities would be leased to somebody else.
Donnie said no they have always had a catering style kitchen with a full time chef
along with our conference director and they cater all the meals and will support
this new structure.
Keith asked if the parking was accessible through Ute Avenue. Donnie answered
it is only accessible from Ute Avenue.
No public comments.
Commissioner Comments:
Bert said that he struggles with this because the criteria is that it must be consistent
with or an enhancement which is extremely vague. Bert said he didn't know if
should be 2000 square feet bigger or 6000 square feet bigger but he is willing to
support this.
Cliff said that he has always been a proponent to conference space, meeting space
for groups. Cliff said he was all for this; there were no complaints from neighbors
and the 25 foot height is only in one spot it is not the whole building.
Jasmine stated concern for the large tree and was worried that it would get
damaged during construction and the only condition we have is any tree removal
shall be reviewed by the Parks Department building permit application but it
doesn't say how that is going to be addressed.
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Jessica said that the applicant is intending to keep the tree and there is a process
that the Parks Department uses if a tree does need to be removed and what needs to
replace it. Donnie said in 2008 when they did their significant exterior work they
dealt with this and worked very hard to keep all of the trees. Donnie said the
boulder and the tree from removing them and we have every intention of
preserving the tree.
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LJ said the presentation was good and the elevator over run was good. Cliff said
this was a well thought out design but he heard $30,000.00 or not $30,000.00; are
they going to maintain those scruples.once P&Z is out of the picture.
Ryan said that he liked the outdoor deck and at 25 feet; he was fine with the 2 foot
overrun with the elevator.
MOTION: Jasmine Tygre moved to approve Resolution 4, series of 2013
approving a PUD amendment for the Gant Conference Facility and expansion;
seconded by Cliff Weiss. Roll call vote: Ryan Walterscheid, yes; Keith Goode, yes;
Jasmine Tygre, yes; Bert Myrin, yes; Stan Gibbs, yes; Cliff Weiss, yes; LJ
Erspamer. APPROVED 7-0.
Meeting adjourned at 5:45 pm.
/ ckie Lothian, Deputy City Clerk
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