HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.20130213 ASPEN HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 13, 2013
Chairperson, Ann Mullins called the meeting to order at 5:00 p.m.
Commissioners in attendance: Willis Pember, Jay Maytin, Jamie McLeod,
Sallie Golden and Patrick Sagal. Nora Berko and Jane Hills were absent.
Staff present:
Deborah Quinn, Assistant City Attorney
Amy Guthrie, Historic Preservation Officer
Kathy Strickland, Chief Deputy City Clerk
MOTION: Jay moved to approve the minutes of January 9t" and 23rd
second by Ann. All in favor, motion carried.
Willis will recuse himself on 110 W. Main Street
110 W. Main Street, Conceptual Major Development, Conceptual
Commercial Design, Demolition, Public Amenity— Cont'd Public
Hearing
Amy said staff feels that the revisions do not address the concern in a
meaningful way and the main concerns are the free market units that face
Bleeker Street. This is an unusual property because it stretches from Main
Street to Bleeker Street and encompasses an old alley and has multiple
layers of zoning and part of it is in the historic district. All along our
concerns are the four units and their relationship to the neighborhood. The
applicant has provided more accurate information about the size of the
neighboring buildings which is helpful. They have also increased the public
amenity space with outdoor dining which doesn't exist now and they have
revised the head in parking along Garmisch Street. The height, footprint and
massing of these buildings is not sympathetic to the adjacent structures. We
still think more work is needed. There are a few minor issues that need to be
worked out that would affect the massing of the project. The affordable
housing units proposed are undersized and that would change their shape.
One of them doesn't have proper access from the street and that might
change the site plan and the Fire Department has concerns about fire fighting
between the buildings. We feel these issues should be resolved at the HPC
level.
Amy said we need to know that the affordable housing units are an
acceptable dimension. The fair housing issue is that the units need to be
approached from a public street and not through the alley.
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Stan Clauson, Clauson and Associates
Kim Weil, Poss & Associates
Michael Brown, Applicant
Stan did a power point on the revisions made to the project. The lodge
increased from 53 to 54 units. The average lodge unit size is 292 square
feet. The amount of affordable housing has been increased 1456 square feet
to 1829 square feet and all the units are conforming to the affordable
housing guidelines. We reduced the height of the free market units to 32 feet
which is difficult to do with a three story element. The code is not clear that
it prohibits access from the alley and I am not sure this is an issue for the
HPC. Regarding the fire fighting area between the units that is something
that can be easily addressed through materials. All of these things will be
addressed through the Building Department at the appropriate time. The
sewer main line will have to be relocated for the underground parking. The
other key change is the increase in the public amenity space. A third of the
block is parallel parking with the loss of spaces and if that is what the
Engineering Department prefers this would be our plan. We would remove
a section of the fence which allows visible access for outside dining and
access to the public amenity space. By doing this we increased the public
amenity space by 400 square feet which brings it back up to 15%. The trash
facility off the alley will have a trash compaction. We are requesting a
reduction of 5 linear feet. The code is clear if a trash compaction is used it
can be the basis for a reduction in the overall size. The free market units
have been reduced to 32 feet which is a significant reduction for a three
story building and the desire to still allow for ceiling heights for a three
story. This is a small moderately priced lodge. Stan went over the different
heights of buildings within the neighborhood. At 30 feet we are consistent
with the overall heights of the area. Under the small lodge character there is
a section 5.9 which talks about the 45% angle. The front fagade is 23 feet
high, 28 feet on the hotel facility and 32 on the free market. The 32 feet is
set back 145 feet. Along Bleeker the 32 foot element is setback 10.5 feet.
In summary we have 54 lodging units.
Andy Wisnosky said the project is bordering the transition of town. We
want to keep the context in relationship to the other buildings around. Andy
did a power point on the context of the project with other buildings in that
area of town. We are relating to the other buildings on the street with mass
and scale and a more modern mass. It is our contention that we are not
emulating Victorian architecture.
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Jay said you can drive a car through the alley.
Jamie inquired about the reduction in the trash area.
Stan said the land use code says you can request a reduction in the size of
the trash area if you have a trash compactor.
Kim Weil said the trash area is 15 x 10.
Amy commented that the reduction in the trash area has not been approved
by the Environmental Health Department. They are asking them to meet the
minimum size. As far as the affordable housing the units are smaller about
100 square feet than the minimum required. Units cannot be accessed from
the alley.
Debbie said the state also has requirements and standards for accessibility
which are referenced in our building code. We are not certain the Building
Department would accept an access from this alley.
Kim said one unit has an elevator.
Ann said it is difficult when we have so many contradictions to move
forward.
Jay said the applicant has detailed drawings.
Amy said the comment from the housing authority is that the referral agency
has not signed off. The planning office is concerned about the free market
units.
Patrick said he also feels the issues should be resolved at HPC.
Chairperson, Ann Mullins opened the public hearing.
Julie Ann Steele 121 Bleeker Street. We are an 1888 house and we are 31
feet tall. Our setback is much greater than the units that they are selling on
Bleeker. We are being surrounded by townhomes and blocking our view of
Aspen Mountain and Smuggler. We are being swallowed up by this three
story building. I realize they have to sell the townhouses to make this
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project viable but it will devalue our property. We have been here since
1985 and this is our third house in Aspen.
Chairperson, Ann Mullins closed the public comment section of the agenda
item.
Ann said the primary issue is the potential change in mass and form of the
project depending how the sewer, trash and affordable housing are resolved.
Are we comfortable here knowing that it might shift around.
Patrick said the height issue is trying to keep the hotel and free market units
compatible and similar. The fact is that the commercial and residential are
separate. I would find it more in keeping if the free market units were
compatible with the neighborhood.
Jay asked if we could give an approval with the condition that any site plan
changes trigger the restudy of the entire project.
Debbie said with the reading of the code it talks about conceptual that is
binding on location and form of all the envelopes of all the structures
including height scale massing and proportions. If there is a chance any of
those might change in one respect it is a question whether you have
sufficient information to agree with the locations proposed and second if you
approve it as is and the applicant has to change it the applicant can come
back and have it changed but HPC can't change it. If the applicant can't do
what he asked for he would have to come back for a different approval. We
have had a situation where there was an approval of something that was
contrary to the building code by another department that has created
significant problems and I would advise you not to approve residence on an
alley until you have an answer because it could create problems for the City
in the future.
Jamie said we have five issues that are of a concern and I would suggest we
move forward and continue this until we get comments from the other
departments. The mass and scale of the free market on the back the
transitional one if it did relate to the neighborhood a little bit more like
stepping down it might be a little more amendable to HPC.
Ann said she would like to see the mass broken up a little or brought down
on the free market units.
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MOTION: Ann moved to continue 110 W. Main until March 13th; second
by Patrick.
Jay thanked the applicant for bringing the roof down on the residential. Jay
pointed out that we are preserving the streetscape on the Main Street side.
The idea of the cafe is great. On the parking I think it is strange having two
different kinds of parking on one street. I feel the project is great and wish
there weren't so many unanswered questions.
Sallie said this looks like it will be continued and we need the answers
resolved at the next meeting. On the Bleeker Street side there is too much
mass and it should be stepped back a little. The parking plan is a good
resolution.
Motion carried 4-1. Jay voted no.
208 E. Main Street, Conceptual Major Development, Demolition,
Special Review and Variances — Public hearing
Debbie said the photograph and addresses are not attached to the public
notice.
Michael Giordano, owner said he did the publication and will bring them in
tomorrow for the record. The board agreed to continue without the
addresses and photographs.
Exhibit I - affidavit of public notice
Exhibit II — 5 new elevations
Amy said 208 E. Main Street is a 3,000 square foot lot that was part of an
historic lot split. It is a landmarked building in the historic district and there
is a Victorian miner's cottage on the front of the property with a small
addition in the back and a shed on the alley. The proposal is to demolish a
portion of the non-historic addition at the back of the property, excavate a
basement and lift the shed and place it on the new basement and build a new
residential unit at the back of the site. There just is not a lot of room to work
with on this lot. The applicant has the right to a 1,500 square foot residential
unit and that is what they are trying to achieve. The design guidelines say
that an addition to a gabled roof building should not be a flat roof and that is
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what is on the table. In this particular situation staff can get behind the flat
roof because it does a lot to limit the profile of the new construction popping
up above the historic building. It will have some presence on the alley. At
this point a gabled roof would not benefit anything but the flat roof does
conflict with the guidelines. The new construction does not have the
separation from the historic resource. The guidelines call for a connector to
separate new from old and that isn't happening. The new and old are
basically touching each other both the historic house and shed. Staff is
concerned that they are crowded. The applicant is requesting to pick up the
shed and put it back down in the approximate location. Staff has no
concerns with that. The setback variances along the west side of the
property there is already an encroachment by the existing construction and
that will be made worse by the two story element. The new elevation has a
jog which reducers the setback somewhat but HPC still is being asked to
grant a portion of it allowing the new project to come very close to the lot
line which shares the adjacent Victorian home. Regarding the utility and
trash the normal length is 15 feet parallel to the alley. In this case it has
been rotated. The Environmental Health Dept. is OK with the plan here.
You are asking to grant an exception but it has the endorsement of the
Health Dept. The applicant is requesting not to pay the cash in lieu. There
is no room for parking. Staff is recommending continuance. There is a deck
proposed on top of the addition which has an enclosed staircase. Staff is
concerned about the relationship of the stair to the historic house. The
minimum setback is five feet. HPC has the power to waive the entire
setback but then you create another set of problems. Amy said more than
half the property is occupied by one story historic resources. This is a mixed
use zone district and incentives are important and I would recommend HPC
waive the fee.
Sarah Upton represented the applicant. It is essentially a zero lot line
condition. Sarah talked about the proposed stair. Possibly we could do a
stair enclosure with a high percentage of a glass enclosure.
Chairperson, Ann Mullins opened the public comment section of the agenda
item.
Exhibit III — letter from Jake Vickery read by Della Pegolotti
Fire protection and maintenance issues exist and the lot split was approved
by HPC. Jake owns the structure next door and is opposed to the variance.
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Mary Hayes lives at 209 E. Bleeker and her concern is the trash.
Amy said this will be an improvement and they are being asked to build a
wild proof container surrounding the trash bins etc.
Chairperson, Ann Mullins closed the public comment section of the agenda
item.
Ann identified the issues:
Side yard variance west side
Separation of the shed to the historic building
Flat roof
Enclosed stair case and deck
Utility and trash which has been approved by the Environmental Health
Dept.
Parking variance and fee waiver.
Jay said he supports the cash-in-lieu on the parking and you wouldn't be
able to see a connector. I do not support the roof deck enclosure but support
the side yard setback. The property is extremely constrictive and I feel this
is a good solution and it accentuates the historic house in the front and saves
the little cool shed in the back.
Patrick said he appreciates saving the historic resource. Possibly the shed
could be moved off site and move the addition back so that there could be a
connector. The two story needs restudied.
Sallie said she agrees with everything Jay mentioned. Sallie said she is in
favor of incentives and supports the cash-in -lieu waiver.
Willis said he is in favor of the on-site relocation of the shed. Regarding the
separation it seems a little crowded in the back. There will be a lot of issues
to resolve with the separation and what the Fire Department requires.
Jamie said the new addition is a two story addition all the way around which
is somewhat of a concern. Typically the addition is somewhat subordinate.
I would not increase the variance on the west side and keep the three feet.
Ann said she feels there is too much crammed on this lot. The cabin is
jammed into the house and I don't feel you need a connector. The cabin
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needs some more breathing room. The flat roof is fine. I am in favor of
waiving the cash-in-lieu. Overall it is too large on the site.
Amy said you could sacrifice the shed and create the breathing room. There
is an issue when you are on the lot line how the spaces are going to be
maintained.
Motion: Patrick moved to continue 110 W. Main Street to March 20th per
staff's recommendation. Restudy of the staircase, deck, west wall two story
aspect and the stepping down into the historic resource. Restudy the
massing in its relationship to the shed. Restudy the west side yard setback.
Motion second by Jamie.
Jay asked the board if they are willing to have the applicant demolish the
shed. Willis said it is a great little shed.
Michael said they embraced the shed and we didn't' cantilever over the
shed. The connector to the shed is basically a doorway.
Vote: Jamie, yes; Willis, yes; Patrick, yes; Ann, yes; Sallie, yes; Jay, no.
Motion carried 5-1.
204 S. Galena, Substantial Amendment to Major Development— Public
Hearing
Justin Barker, planner
Exhibit I— elevations
Justin said this project received final approval in December which allowed
for the demolition of the existing building and replacing it with a new
commercial building that will occupy the entire lot and a portion of the
second story. The original proposal did not propose an increase in the net
leasable. Over the past few months there have been more specific tenants
that have stepped forward and so the program has increased in size. It is
adding about 5,000 square feet of retail space in the basement as well as
1,700 square feet addition to the restaurant on the second floor which will be
achieved by moving the west wall of the restaurant toward Galena Street and
also adding some restrooms to the restaurant. The only exterior changes are
on the second story of the restaurant. There is an elevator overrun. The
firewall is not necessary. One of the conditions from final is that there
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should not be any mechanical placed on top of the second floor mass and to
keep that roof top clean. Some of the mechanical will be in the basement
but the rest has to go on the roof to serve the restaurant. Due to building
codes there is a limited space where it can go on the roof. Staff
recommends approval with condition. All the conditions from final will be
carried over with two additional conditions added. They would have to
apply and receive growth management allotments for the increase of the net
leasable space that is being added as well as eliminating the fire wall on the
east property line.
Conditions:
Lighting plan.
Amend the plans to include an airlock entry for each tenant space.
Provide a plan for all rooftop mechanical and screening for review and
approval by staff and monitor. No mechanical or vents placed on the top of
the second floor mass.
The applicant has represented that the requirement to provide 10% of the lot
area dedicated to public amenity will be satisfied by an upper floor
restaurant deck. If the restaurant use is removed, compliance with the Public
Amenity requirements in effect at that time will be required.
Replacement of the 7 on-site parking spaces shall be by cash-in-lieu
payment.
The applicant has represented that the project is below the Courthouse View
Plane as it crosses the property.
Verify net leasable commercial and non-unit calculations with the City
Zoning Officer prior to building permit application.
Prior to building permit application apply for and receive growth
management allocations for proposed net leasable increase.
Eliminate the firewall depicted in this application along the east property
line.
Charles Cunniffe said the below grade space is being requested because we
want to be prepared if we need it. On the upper floor of the restaurant we
have been working with a Dutch designer which is requesting the additional
1,700 square feet. The equipment is consolidated to the back corner and not
visible from the street. Mechanical equipment is allowed to be five feet
above. It would be in the south east corner of the building and contained
and painted to match the color of the stone. We have also eliminated the fire
wall.
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Ann asked about the airlocks and how they would be accommodated.
Charles said with the airlocks you won't see anything inside the shop with a
five foot wide door. With the airlocks the entrance is set back ten feet from
the street fagade. We would like a dispensation from that requirement.
Charles pointed out that airlocks are required for stores over 3,000 square
feet.
Amy said the airlocks are being required on all new buildings in town. This
is slightly different with the small tenant spaces. You could reword it so that
it can be discussed if there is another mechanical option that serves the same
function. Energy efficiency is an important issue. It was added because we
were constantly seeing buildings retrofitting for airlocks because they
needed the cold air blocked out.
Chairperson, Ann Mullins opened the public comments. There were no
public comments. The public comment section of the agenda item was
closed.
Willis commented that the corral is innocuous and a minor issue and the air
lock issue should be restudied.
Jay said he supports the project and restudying the airlocks. If we can
accomplish the energy goal with something more advanced we should look
into that.
Jamie said the Building Department should make the determination on the
air locks not the HPC.
Charles said the Building Department would not require the airlocks.
Debbie said the issue is who determines whether or not what they come up
with is comparable for an airlock system. It is not an issue that HPC should
be deciding. Change condition #2 - Prior to final design submission amend
the floor plans to include an airlock entry or comparable measure for heat
loss prevention acceptable to the Building Department.
MOTION: Jay moved to approve 204 S. Galena Street as represented and
strike #3 condition and change condition #2 - Prior to final design
submission amend the floor plans to include an airlock entry or comparable
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measure for heat loss prevention acceptable to the Building Department.
Motion second by Ann. All in favor, motion carried 6-0.
MOTION: Jamie moved to adjourn second by Jay. All in favor, motion
carried.
Meeting adjourned at 7:45 p.m.
Kathleen J. Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk
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