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NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
Case No. 84-2
BEFORE THE CITY OF ASPEN BOARD OF ADJUSTHENT
TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS AFFECTED BY THE REQUESTED ZONING OR USE VARIANCE
DESCRIBED BELOW:
Pursuant to the Official Code of Aspen of June 25, 1962, as amended, a
public hearing will be held in the Council Room, City Hall, Aspen, Colo-
rado, (or at such other place as the meeting may be then adjourned) to
consider an application filed with the said Board of Adjustment requesting
authority for variance from the provisions of the Zoning Ordinance, Chapter
24, Official Code of Aspen. All persons affected by the proposed variance
are invited to appear and state their views, protests or objections. If
you cannot appear personally at such meeting, then you are urged to state.
yo~views by letter, particularly if you have objection to such variance,
as the Board of Adjustment will give serious consideration to the opinions
of surrounding property owners and others affected in deciding whether to
grant or deny the request for variance.
The particulars of the hearing and of the requested variance are as follows:
Date and Time of Meeting:
Date:
Time:
Thursday, February 9, 1984
'4:00 p.m.
Name and address of Applicant for Variance:
Name:
Address:
Abetone Ristorante
Dan Sur in and Ermano Masini represented
620 East Hyman, Aspen, Colorado 81611
description of property:
by Paul Rubin, architect
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Abetone Ristorante
620 East Hyman
Aspen, Colorado 81611,
Variance Requested: The building is a non-conforming structure as it
exceeds the F.A.R. requirement in the C-l zone category. Section 24-3.4,
(area and bulk requirements). Section 24-13.3 (a)-no non-conforming structure
may be enlarged or altered in a way which increases its nonconformity.
Applicant appears to also need a variance to reduce open space. Section
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THE CITY OF ASPEN BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
BY Remo Lavaqnino, Chairman
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Buildin1 Permit' Application and prints or any other pertinent
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ABETONE RISTORANTE
620 E. Hyman
ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS
638 E. Hyman - Patio Building
Jack S. & Gesine Crandall
PO Box 1066
Aspen, CO 81612
307 S. Spring St
Mountain States Communications Inc.
PO Box 2238
Aspen, CO 81612
633 E. Hyman
Boris M. & Dora L. Lemos and
Donald M. & Jeannie M. Lemos
PO Box 321
Aspen, CO 81612
616 E. Hyman
E. Norris Taylor & Goodrich H. Taylor
# 1 602 E. Hyman
Aspen, CO 81611
610 E. Hyman
Patricia Moore
610 E. Hyman
Aspen, CO 81611
E. Hopkins - Lots D&E - Vacant
Leslie Jean Smith
PO Box 1645
Aspen, CO 81612
623 E. Hopkins
Ann E. Chapman
PO Box 3150
Aspen, CO 81612
629 E. Hopkins
W. R. Walton
PO Box 665
Aspen, CO 81612
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MEMO
Attention: Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission
The Board of Adjustment on February 9, 1984, de-
liberated case #84-2/Abetone Ristorante. The Board
moved to distribute copies of the minutes of that
case to the planning and zoning commission after
lengthy discussion of the case and after the appli-
cant requested to withdraw the application.
Attached please find a copy of those minutes.
Thank you,
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Barbara Norris
Deputy City Clerk
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I am representing Mr. Dan Surin and' Mr. ,ErIlllUlO Ma'Bi~~' ~ners' e~"AQet~~ ': 1
Ristorante located at 620 E. lf7man St. Thel have 1'equelt.6d the right to ' \
enclose an existing outdoor dining area with aperl1ll1hent structure. 'Arecap
of the process leading to a request for a variance t6llows: .,'
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The government process to secure the right to do so was officially, , ,
commenced on October 20, 1983 at the City Planning & Zoning Co~ission,meet~4
The Planning Office's original recommendation for approval was met b,y questiBns
as to the existing FAR for the 620 HYman Building. These questions pointed out
confusion regarding the legality of such approval. The attached Memorandum
dated October 18 from Colette Penne. Planning Office. and the minutes of the
above mentioned Planning & Zoning meeting; Oct 2O~ 1983. are attached fBr you:r
perusal and background information. '
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question a~ resub~itted my client's request with documetl. ,tati.on of 1111. .' ii. '.ndiDe.., '.Il....ri.. ,j;'\.j;.'.'1}."
Please renew subm1ttal letter dated November 17. 1983 to Alan Rlc~,~~ic~: ,;\ 'i,.l':1'\::t,\,
can serve to explain my findings regarding the question of F~ arid ii;t.,;;,U "', \",', :,:\r:,
ramifications for my client's request. 'I 8JI inclUding'inthis;'lNbmitta!.'-tbil :':\"(\;"':,:t;';'
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P & Z meeting, both dated December 20, 1983 aabackground' infOl'lllatij)J4 . :, ; , ",,~~.,
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Mr. Sur in and Mr. Masini are requesting a variance r~laf.lng tp', the zoiling'
laws of the City of Aspen under Sect. 2-2.2 of. the Aspen City Code' which will,' \.
permi t the Planning & Zoning Commission to grant an exemption' fioom GMP' and allow.
the enclosure of the existing outdoor dining area. ' , \\
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The attached conceptual plans and documentation referred to above clearly
point out the negligible impect regarding the general purPose. cOdes and
general plan that the granting of such a variance would affect. The reasons for
this request are:
As pointed out b,y Mr. Gary Esary, City of Aspen AttQ1'neYi members
of the City P & Z; and Colette Penne of the Aspen, Pitkin County
Planning Office. no one has been able to prove or INbstantiate
whether the area in question was FAR or not. " The unanimous agreement
that the enclosure presents negligible impacts and the fact that, no ,
other building, to my knowledge. was approved under Ordinance 19 and '
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therefore the question of FAR and its ramifications became
later clouded and confused, are spelled out clearly in the
attached documentation.
This hardship and the conditions surrounding it are not the
result of my client's actions. The granting of such a
variance is essential to my clients for several reasons.
The existing commercial dining space in question not only
cannot be used a large portion of the year, but creates a
snow and trash catchment during much of the year. The
addition would alleviate this situation as well as eliminating
a spring standing water and resultant drainage surge b,r
handling runoff and drainage in a more timely fashion.
The area in question as exists represents a visible greens pace
amenity in the summer months. This amenity as pointed out b,r
the conceptual plans, would be extended to a year round
situation by the glass enclosure.
This hardship further impacts my clients and their customer's
use of this existing commercial space through their inability
to enhance the thermal properties of the space in question.
The only access to the outdoor dining area is through large
glass doors. The ability to correct this situation through the
addition of the enclosures would not only add to the thermal
comfort of my clients and their patrons but a variance would
afford them the opportunity to passively solar heat not only
the addition but would add between 95,000 to 230,000 BTU's/per
day to the existing space, depending on the economic realities
of moveable insulation.
The following is intended to summarize the fact that the granting of
such a variance will not adversely effect the general purpose of the City
codes, and comprehensive plans. The Planning Office addressed such in their
Memo, October 18, 1983, which is attached.
a) Visual impact, if any, would be a positive element as pointed
out above. The addition is on the lower level and will be
virtually unseen from the existing street grade.
b) No new employees are to be generated. The 'addition will only
replace the serving of meals in the existing bar, thus alleviating
a congested and negative current situation. I have submitted
changes in the seating at Abetone Ristorante with this request
which have been undertaken since the commencement of this
government process. In their desire to present a quality experience
these seating changes have already diminished the number of seats
within the restaurant. A large portion of the dining courtyard is
to remain landscaped.
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c) Given no increase in customer load or employees coupled with
evening service only, parking will not be impacted.
d) The addition will not effect levels of service and as pointed
out, will have a positive effect on the runoff situation.
This addition can only enhance the experience of OUT citizens and
visitors, both from within and outside.
Should you have any questions regarding this request, please feel free
to contact me.
Thank you for your consideration.
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MEMORANDUM
T.: Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission
FR.M: Colette Penne, Planning Office
RE: Abetone - GMP Exemption
.ATE: October 18, 1983
LOCATION: Garden Level, 620 East Hyman Avenue
ZONING: C-l
APPLICANT'S
REQUEST:
Approval of a GMP exemption per Section 24-ll.2(p)
for an expansion of Abetone Ristorante of less than
500 sq. ft.
REFERRAL
COMMENTS:
The Engineering Department made the following state-
ments:
"1. It would appear that the proposed room will
enclose the existing drain inlet in the outside
area. Some further detail regarding how drainage
and snowmelt in the lower level will be handled
would be appropriate.
2. Some additional evening parking need will be
generated by the enclosure of the outside area
but it should not be significant and will not
conflict with the daytime activity of most
surrounding businesses."
PLANNING
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REVIEW:
The development activity which may1be exempted from
complying with GMP allotment procedures by the
Planning and zoning Commission per Section 24-l1.2(h)
is "the expansion of an existing commercial or office,
use in a builidng by not more than five hundred (500)
square feet, excluding employee housing, for the pur-
poses of providing a small addition of space which can
be shown to have minimal or manageable impact upon
the community and can be justified by the benefit
which will accrue to the Community." The determination
of minimal or manageable impact on the community should
consider the following:
(1) A minimal number of additional employees will
be generated by the expansion or the applicant
will provide additional employee housing.
(2) A minimal amount of additional parking demand will
be created or that parking can be accommodated
on-site.
(3) That there will be minimal visual impact on the
neighborhood due to the project.
(4) Minimal new demand is placed on services available
at the site such as water, sewer, roads, drainage
and fire protection.
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MENDATIONS:
The applicant submits that no new employees will be
needed as a result of this expansion. Presently,
meals are being served in the bar area and this will
be eliminated. Also, of the 445 square feet of
area, 115 sq. ft. will be landscaping and 330 sq.
ft. dining area. ,This, same space has historically
been used for a summer season outdoor eating ar~a,
The space accommodates approximately four tables.
Considering that this space has been used for dining
and waiters have been serving meals in the bar area
and will not be serving in the bar area when this
new space is available for winter use, we believe
the case for no new employees is justified.
The Engineering Department agrees with the applicant
concerning parking and considers that any new generated
parking need is not significant. Also, because of
operation only in the evening, there is no conflict
with the daytime activity of most of the surrounding
area.
The question of visual impact is not a consideration
in this case. First of all, the restauran~is on
the lower level and this roof will not be vlsible at
street level. Secondly, if the addition is visible,
it is considered by this office to be a positive
element and not one that would be a negative neighbor-
hood impact.
This incremental addition will have no effect on
existing levels of services. It will have a positive
effect on the runoff situation at the site, and will
add a passive solar element for the heating and
cooling of the interior space. The project architect
will be present at the meeting, to discuss the
operation of the glazed roof in site drainage and
to answer the concerns of the Engineering Department.
The limitation of Section 24-ll.2(h) that the maximum
cumulative additions within any building can be only
500 sq. ft. is not an issue in this case, since this
building has not expanded in this manner previously.
The Planning Office recommends approval of a GMP
exemption per Section 24-11.2(h) for the proposed
expansion of Abetone Ristorante of 445 square feet.
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MEMORANDUM
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Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission
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Colette Penne, Planning Office
RE:
Abetone - GMP Exemption
DATE:
December 20, 1983
BACKGROUND
Application was made pursuant to Section 24-11.2(h) for an exemption
from Growth Management Competition procedures to enclose the space
which Abetone now uses for outside dining. The Planning Office evaluated
the request in light of the exemption criteria and recommended that
you find there to be "minimal or manageable impact on the community."
Upon receipt of comments from the Building Department, we discovered
that the 620 Hyman Building (which houses Abetone) is in excess of the
allowed floor area. This information would lead us to the conclusion
that the application should never have been accepted.
The architect for the project, Paul Rubin, feels that the location of
this dining area and the history of approvals for the 620 Hyman Building
should lead us to conclude that this area not be counted as additional
floor area if the proposed enclosure occurs.
PLANNING OFFICE REVIEW
Some of the concerns you expressed when we briefly discussed this
request at your regular meeting on October 18, 1983, were whether this
area was included as FAR when the building permit was issued; if this
area was intended to be open space; and whether it is considered
additional floor area if enclosed now. The C-l zone allows a 1:1 FAR
and the Building Department calculates the build-out at 1.83:1, and
therefore, non~conforming.
This building was exempted from Ordinance 11 (Series of 1975) by
Ordinance 25 (Series of 1975) and Ordinance 50 (Series of 1974). This
exemption allowed a building to proceed to construction which would
not have complied with some provisions of Ordinance 11. Because of
this exemption, or possibly because FAR calculations were not explicit,
the record is unclear as to whether or not this dining area was included
in the floor area calculations. There is evidence that the area was
included in occupancy load calculations and it has always been part of
the commercial lease space of the restaurant.
The Municipal Code requirements in effect prior to Ordinance 11 (Series
of 1975) allowed a 2:1 FAR with provisions for additional square
footage when a project offered public arcade space at ground level or
open space in excess of that required.
The evidence submitted by Paul Rubin indicates the possibility that
this area was part of the floor area calculation. There is a statement
made by Commissioner Johnson at the Planning and Zoning Commission
meeting of May 7, 1974, that he "felt the garden level should be
included in the floor area ratio." It is not specific to this particular
patio space, nor was any action taken on the statement.
Ordinance 11 (Series of 1975) states that "in measuring floor area for
the purpose of calculating floor area ratio, there shall be included
that area within the surrounding exterior walls . The floor area
of a building or portion thereof not surrounded by exterior walls
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shall include any usable area under a horizontal projection of a roof
or floor above." The interpretation of these statements could lead
to the conclusion that this area was counted if the wall at the
sidewalk was considered to be the exterior wall (even though the
space was not roofed).
Further, the Ordinance states that "for purposes of calculated floor
area ratio, there shall be included basement (but not sub-basement)
areas except any such basement area devoted to underground off-street
parking." Since this area could be considered to be surrounded by
exterior walls and does not qualify as open space, it may have been
calculated as floor area by being included in the basement (or garden)
level. '
The answer to the question of this space being classified as open
space is more clear cut. The area is not open space for two reasons:
1. Open space cannot be more than ten (10) feet below the
existing grade of the street which abuts said open space.
(This space is 10.3 feet below grade.)
2. The open space must be continuous and not obstructed with
building appurtenances and appendages. Stairways will be
considered obstructions. (This space is accessed by a
stairway from the sidewalk.)
The current floor area ratio ordinance (Ordinance 11, Series of 1982)
includes any area under a horizontal projection of a roof and any
question of the inclusion of this space is answered once the roof is
placed over it. Since the area is subgrade and the roof is glass,
the evaluation of the impact of additional bulk is less than a solid
roof above grade, however, an open area will be closed in.
PLANNING OFFICE RECOMMENDATION
We feel that the record is inconclusive concerning the inclusion of
this space in FAR at the time of building permit issuance. We are
convinced that any growth or service impact which may result would be
very minimal. If you feel the arguments made by the applicant are
strong enough to justify issuance of a building permit, you could
make the finding that this area should have been originally included
in the floor area and direct the Building Department to issue a
permit.
We are unable to reach this conclusion based on the evidence presented.
We find that under today's regulations, the enclosure of the space
will increase the degree of non-conformity of the building in terms
of F.A.R. Therefore, we recommend that you move to table this appli-
cation until such time as a variance from the F.A.R. limitations is
obtained from the Board of Adjustments.
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MEMO TO:
Alan Richman
Aspen, Pitkin Planning Office
Aspen, Colorado
Dear Ala~,
The following will delineate the research I have completed and which we
discussed at our meeting of November 15 regarding the Application of Abetone
Ristorante. It should serve the Aspen Planning & Zoning Commission's request
that I document the reasoning and circumstance which leads to ~ conclusion
that my client be eligible for the granting of a building permit ~ the
appropriate department when they receive the required plans and materials for
enclosing the existing outdoor dining patio.
The real property in question was approved as part of the construction
project known as the 620 Hyman Building. The approval process included the
granting of an ordinance No. 25 series of 1975 which provided that said building
was extended an exemption from Ordinance 11 series 1975. See copy of ordinance
25 attached herein. The intent and result of such was that the 620 Hyman
Building did not comply with the Floor Area Ratio requirements of Ordinance 11.
In reviewing the minutes of meetings of the Aspen Planning & Zoning
Commission and of the City Coun~il in conjunction with'the perusal of granted
permits both prior to and since the construction of the 620 Hyman Building, it
is my contention that the outdoor dining patio has at no time been clearly
calculated as either being included or exempted from a FAR calculation.
I hope the following will provide you with the information necessary to
conclude that the real property in que3tion should have been part of the FAR.
1. Ordinance 11 (e) #1 states that measuring should include floor
area within the surrounding exterior walls exclusive of vents,
shafts and courts.
The area in question is not a court or shaft. (support follows)
The same paragraph goes on to require inclusion of areas such as
grade deck, balconies, et~. when such areas are necessary for the
function of the building.
Support for such finding can be provided ~ the fact that Ordinance 11
series 1975 which defines Open Space clearly shows the property in
question not to be Ii "court" or open space element in Sect D #2
Open space cannot be more than 10 feet below grade
Dining patio is 10.3 feet below grade
and even more clearly in Number 4, Sect. D where
Open space must be continuous and not obstructed with
building appurtenances and appendages.
The dining area has always been enclosed with access solely
from within the private leased commercial space.
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Such conclusion is further supported qy the intent of calculated
commercial floor area provided qy the building department on 7-7-75 which
recognizes the area in question as being included for the occupancy loads.
Due to the exemption from Ordinance 11, nowhere within the documents and
permits is the area in question not counted as FAR since such a calculation
was not required.
The fact that the area couldn't be open space and was in fact enclosed
by walls and a necessary functioning portion can further be supported qy
Ordinance 11, Sect. E # 2
that for calculated floor area ratio there shall be included
basement areas accessory to the principal use of the building.
The dining area clearly fits this description of meeting the
"minimum requirements for natural light, ventilation and
emergency exit for the applicable occupancy group."
Not only was the use and intent of the space in question recognized qy
the building department but further support for such can be found in the
following minutes:
The Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission recognized the intent
of plans and use of space on May 7, 1974 when Commission member
Johnson stated that patio should be included in FAR (see att~ched).
At City Council meeting April 14, 1975 the owner wanted to change
use to a theater but discussion pointed to retaining Restaurant
use.
Such use recognition is consistent throughout the meetings and can be
supported qy the designed enclosure and access doors clearly recognized qy
the Building Department.
My clients lease as previous leases have shown such area as part of
the rented c01l1llercial space. It has been reiterated as such qy the inclusion
of area in the Colorado State Liquor License.
In summation, I should point out that the intent of the laws and objectives
of the City of Aspen are in no way impacted by your granting of such a request.
I therefore would welcome your recommendation that the Building Department,
at the appropriate time, grant my clients a permit to enclose the outdoor
dining room.
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ordinance Gary will ask that the application be tabled for
five additional months. He is asking that it be tabled
for cne month now because applications have to be tabled
to a "date certain" and it is not known for sure if council
will pass the moratorium ordinance. Gary also said that
tabling the application for five months is not definite,
though he anticipates that it will be tabled for five months;
at the end of the one month period he may only ask that it
be tabled for an additional month depending on Councils'
decision.
Perry Harvey opened the public hearing. Roger Hunt moved
to continue the public hearing and to table action on the
Shadow Mountain timeshare project to November 22, 1983 at
the request and effect of the City Council on the basis of
their action on a resolution for a six month moratorium.
Jasmine Tygre seconded the motion. All in favor. Motion
carried.
Colette Penne of the Planning office informed the Commission
that Paul Ruben, representative for the applicant, had come
to her at pre-application stage and asked if Abetone Restaurant
would be able to put a glass atrium roof over the space now
used for outside dining. Colette told Mr. Ruben that it was
possible to get an exemption from GMP for a small (under 500
square feet) expansion of floor area ratio(FAR}. The exemption
criteria were reviewed and it was thought that the applicant
could meet those criteria. Mr. Ruben made the application
and after reviewing the application Colette stated in her
memo to the Commission dated october 18, 1983, that the
applicant did substantially meet the criteria for a GMP
exemption. After the memo was written, produced and sent
out to Commission members in the packets, Colette Penne
recieved a memo from the Building Department indicating that
the building was over FAR and therefore non-conforming.
Thus, the building cannot be expanded. Colette stated that
she should have checked this out in the pre-application stage
and that it was an oversight on her part. Colette informed
the applicant of the situation saying that the application
should not have been accepted in the first place and offered
to return the application fee. Colette also offered to
explain the situation to the Commission and remove the
application from the adgenda. The applicant is unhappy with
this because he feels that the solution is not detrimental
and has some questions as to whether it is in fact an
increase in floor area ratio. The applicant was at the meetinc
to address the commission. There is "a light at the end
of the tunnel" from the applicants point of view in that the
Board of Adjustment, last week, took action at the Red Onion
in a case that is not exactly analogous but one in which
the Board allowed some space on the addition to be glassed
over, However the space was not to be used for commercial
square footage.
Paul Ruben told the Commission that he felt that he could
make a compelling case to rebut the fact that it does
extend the floor area ratios. Mr. Ruben told the Commission
that the plans had changed some and pointed out that he had
gone over the FAR with the planning office and was led to
believe that it would not be a problem. Paul Ruben then read
from the Municipal Code section 24-11.2 A. Mr. Ruben said
that if he went back to measuring the floor area ratio under
section 24-3.7 ordinance 11 it, states that ventilating
shafts and courtyardS are areas that don't count as FAR.
It is Mr. Rubens' contention that the part of the property
in question which has been leased to Abetone since they have
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been there is not in fact a courtyard, a courtyard being
an architectural element of open space. According to
City Code open space can not be more than ten feet below
grade and the property in question is 10.3 feet below grade.
Mr. Ruben said that the property in question is an area that
is enclosed on all sides, the roof is currently open and it
has been used historically as commercial floor area. It
should have been included in FAR to this point. Paul Ruben
pointed out that there were several discrepancies in the
code as in the non-conforming structure portion of the
code and is allowed from the stand point that
it does not add to the non-conformity if in fact it is an
existing commercial, retail area. As far as the project
itself (the FAR) is concerned Mr. Ruben said he could make
a case and show the Commission drawings and data that show
that it will alleviate problems of standing water and snow.
Mr. Ruben said that it will be kept virtually the way it is no\
with movable glazing. The area in question will not only
meet its own needs passivly, with a passive solar system,
but it will either add 95,000 BTU's a day to the existing
structure or 230,000 BTU's a day depending on whether
movable insulation is desirable on an economic basis.
The resaurant, which is being remodeled on the inside, will
have 60 fewer seats in the winter when this proposed ~tQjeQt~,
is in place. Thus, according to Mr. Ruben, the impact on
parking and the impact of employees is less with the new
design of the resaurant. Mr. Ruben thought that including his
argument in the FAR would save the applicant the money, time
and heartache of going to the Board of Adjustment.
Mr. Ruben reiterated that there were a number of discrpancies
in the code as to what commercial floor area i~~anct~~h~t
floor area ratio. is" .Io!,o:the.r!:wo):'d.in if0th?!;,appiica:n;t'dbilill:,.
part of the project :L under a horizantal protrusion the
applicant would not even have to face the Commission. There
are, accorcing to Paul Ruben, large portions of the building
under horizantal protrusions that could never be expandeded
but which legally could be expanded. Mr. Ruben felt that
in a number of ways the Commission had the legal grounds
to grant an exemption from the GMP and that it is a compelling
argument for the applicant to get the right to do the project.
Perry Harvey asked if the patio was classified as open space
in the original approval of the building. Colette Penne
said that it didn't qualify as the definition of open space
states that open space can not be more than 10 feet below
grade. Colette explained that ordinance #19,building,
required 25% (percent) open space in the C-l zone thus
the courtyard under discussion could not be "counted" because
it is farther below grade than the definition allows.
The original plan did not include the courtyard as open space.
Perry then asked if the courtyard was counted as part of
the FAR. Colette said that she didn't know how it could
have counted as Fl\R because there is no roof over the area
and it has been leased as commercial footage. Colette
also pointed out that the C-l zone allows a 1:1 Fl\R and the
current FAR on this building ~s 1,83:1. Perry then pointed out
th~t buildings~built_before~1977_can..remodel and reconstruct
if there is no expansion of the commercial FAR. Perry said
that he was trying to determine what that space was catalogycJ
as originally. If it was not open space and it was not part
of the buildillf) what was it? If the space was originally
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then there are grounds for exemption but if it was originally
part of the 25% open space thclI it is questionable whether
or not there are grounds for exemption.
Jim Wilson of the Building Department told the Commission
that there are some areas in the zoning code which are not
clear. Mr. Wilson informed the Commission that it doesn't
have to be either FAR or open space. "This is not an either
or situation" said Mr. Wilson.
Bill Drueding also of the Building Department told the
Commission that they would have to go back to the original
building plans and see what information they could come up
with. There is nothing in the plans that show there is
still a maintenance of the 25% open space requirement. If
the area is still regarded as open space than the roof over
the area defeats the word "deck". Mr. Dreuding said that
he would do his best to determine what they can from the
original plans as soon as possible.
Roger Hunt thought that there was a contractual agreement
between Don Flicsher and the City Council. Roger suggested
going back to those agreements.
Perry Harvey stated that the on-site plan had to show
building footprint, and the open space that was figured to
arrive at the 25% requirement. Perry said that he didn't
know whether the Commission could make a deci!,jon on taking
an action. Perry said that the Commission had three choices;
they could act on it, they could table it, or they could
table it pending Board of Adjustment review.
Paul Ruben stated that the courtyard was tied to the
teasable space of the restaurant and was a dining courtyard.
, said that the Commission cannot increase
the FAR, rather the Commission must determine if the
area was originally zoned FAR, not open space.
Paul Ruben felt that even if, whenever they figured FAR,
the area wasn't included in FAR then the fact that they
didn't include the area in FAR was a mistake.
Lee Pardee thought the question would be determined by
the agreement with the City, on what square footage of
commercial space was allowed, "taking with it plans".
If there is the square footage of the building plus
the courtyard then the Commission knows that it was originally
included as commercial space and "we have a simple answer".
Colette Penne said that if in fact research shows that
the area was part of the FAR then there is no reason to
go through the procedure.
Paur Rubpn said that he would like to point out one other
thing. It seemed to Mr. Ruben that there should be
mechanism that deals with criteria regardless of FAR.
Perry Harvey sai6 that the Commission was not empowered
to give varicnccs to the code.
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Exemption
Planning and Zoning commission
December 20, 1983
presented a geological report showing where the majority of
the flooding would happen. Harvey asked about the report
on the utility and icing problem. Crews told P & Z the
applicant would like to extend the awning on the building, it
would be a pcrmanent awning and would eliminate icing on
utility meters.
Assistant City Attorney Gary Esary said he has interpreted
this exemption provision of the Code to be a per building
exemption. Esary said if the Commission interprets it the
same way, he would request a condition to make it clear this
274.25 square foot exemption out of the 500 square feet
alloted for this building. Harvey agreed it was on a per
building basis so that people do not keep coming in for
exemptions. Harvey asked what the existing FAR on this
building is. Ms. Penne said the staff is not sure as there
is a discrepancy in the ownership ship line. Ms. Penne said
if the P & Z grants approval, they should condition all other
calculations will have to be done by the building department
to make sure they are in compliance.
Hunt moved to grant approval of the stream margin review and
GMP excmption of approximately 274.25 square feet for the
Andrews/Pletts building with conditions 1 and 2 in the plan-
ning office memorandum dated 20 December 1983, condition 3 -
the project shall comply \~ith zoning and building regulations
irrespective of this approval; condition 4 this is a granting
of a GMP exemption on a per building basis; seconded by
Anderson. All in favor, motion carried.
Ms. Penne, planning office, said the P & Z had raised concerns
at their October 18th meeting on how this area was counted on
the original plans; was it open space, was it counted in the
FAR, would it be additional FAR if it were to be roofed over
as in this application. Ms. Penne pointed out the C-l zone
allows a 1:1 FAR; this building is 1.83:1, therefore, it is
non-conforming.
This building was exempt from the FAR in 1975, Ordinance 11,
by Ordinance #25, 1975 and Oxdinance #50, 1974. This
exemption allowed the building to proceed with construction
although it would not have complied with earlier ordinances.
Ms. Pennc said either because of the exemption or the FAR
calculations are not as clear as today, the record is not
clear whether the dining area is included in FAR calculations.
Ms. Penne said there is evidence the area was included in
occupancy load calculations. Ms. Penne said she has not seen
plans that conclusively include it or not include it in the
calculations.
Ms. Penne said the Municipal Code requirements in effect
prior to Ordinance 11, 1975, allowed a 2:1 FAR with
provisions for additional square footage when a project
provided public arcade space at ground level or 'open space
in excess of that required. Ms. Penne told P & Z, the
applicant Paul Rubin, has submitted evidence this may be
part of the floor area calculation in minutes of May 7, 1974
P & Z minutes. P & Z membe:r Johnson stated he "felt that
garden level should be included in the floor area ration".
This is unclear as no acti~n was taken and it was just part
of the minutes.
Ms. Penne said Ordina~ce 11, 1975, states "in measuring floor
area for the purpose of calculating floor area ratio, there
shall be included that area within the surrounding exterior
wall", 1 1 1 the floor area Ofl building or portion thereof
not surrounded by ext:erior walls shall include any usable
area under a horizontal projection of a roof or floor above".
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Ms. Penne said on interpretation, one could conclude this
area was counted if the wall at the sidewalk was considered
to be the exterior wall even when the space was not roofed.
Ordinance 11, 1975, also states "for purposes of calculated
floor area ratio, there shall be included basement (but not
sub basement) areas except any such basement area devoted to
underground off street parking". This area could be consid-
ered to be surrounded by exterior walls and it does not
qualify as open space, it may have been calculated as floor
area by being included in the basement - garden level.
Ms. Penne said the area cannot be open space for two reasons
it cannot be more than 10 feet below the abutting street.
This space is 10.3 feet below the street. Ms. Penne said
the open space must be continuous and not obstructed with
building appurtenances and appendages. stairways are
considered obstructions. The space is accessed by a stair
way which divides it from the sidewalk.
Ms. Penne told P & z the current floor area ordinance
includes any area under a horizontal projection of a roof
and any question of the inclusion of this space is answered
once the roof is placed over it. This area is subgrade; the
proposed roof is glass. Ms. Penne said the evaluation of th,
impact of additional bulk is less than a solid roof above
grade. However, there is an open area that is proposed to
be closed in. Ms. Penne said based on the present FAR
ordinance, the area qould be counted in FAR; however, the
past record is inconclusive as to whether this space was
included in the FAR.
Ms. Penne said the staff feels any growth or servicing
impact resulting from glassing in this area would be minimal
Ms. Penne told the Board if they feel the applicant's
arguments are strong enouch to justify issuance of a buildin,
permit, they could find that this area should have been
originally included in the floor area and request issuance
of a permit. Ms. Penne said the planning office is reluc-
tant to reach that conclusion based on the evidence presente'
Under today's regulations, the enclosure of the space would
increase the FAR and will increase the non-conformity in
terms of the FAR.
Ms. Penne recommended P & Z table the applicant and send
the applicant to the Board of Adjustment for a variance for
this space in the FAR. Ms. Penne said if P & Z feels it
is good idea to have this project done, they may send on
a recommendation to the Board of Adjustment.
Harvey recapped this is not open space, it is an open area;
it is not clear that it was included in FAR but was
mentioned garden level should be included in the FAR. Ms.
Penne questioncd if it was not open space and was not FAR,
what was it.
Paul Rubin pointed out not only is this area obstructed by
the stairway, but one has to go into the restaurant and
through the sliding glass door to get to this area. Rubin
said it was always clear this was intended to be used as a
restaurant. Rubin pointed out a copy of the building permit
and in the calculation for occupancy load, this area was
counted. Rubin said the recognition of this-being used as
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dining space was very clear. Rubin said at no time is there
any evident to show that this was not counted as FAR, and
it clearly cannot be open space.
Hunt asked if this open area is within the walls of the
buidling, what would be the FAR. Rubin said there are
various ways to calculate the FAR because of planters, over
hangs, elevators, etc. Ms. Penne said the issues of GMP .
exemption and the impacts of using this as commecial space
were outlined in an earlier memorandum to P & z. Rubin said
they are rearranging the rest8urant and there will be less
seats than there are now.
Hunt said if the walls of the open area are included in the
FAR and that comes out to 2:1, that could be an indication
it was included in the FAR, which at the time for the zone
district was 2:1. Paul Sheldon said when he walks by the
building, all he sees is the edge. Sheldon said the addition
of a glass roof will not make any impact on the public and
he does not oppose it. White agreed with Sheldon.
Anderson pointed out this stairway is not covered and is
going down into this space. This is not like stairways that
are covered and go up on a building. Anderson said he feels
this was definitely open space in the beginning and should
stay open space. Rubin pointed out that the open space
should be continues and not obstructed with building appur-
tenances, this area is obstructed and always has been.
Ms. Tygre said no one, at this time, can say conclusively
what this space is or is not. Ms. Tygre said this request
is to cover space that was not previously enclosed and there
will be tables there. Ms. Tygre said the applicant should
go get a variance. Esary said the Board of Adjustment can
smooth out the rough edges of the zoning code, and this is
within their jurisdiction. Esary said no one can prove
whether this is open space or FAR, the record is not clear.
Harvey, White and Sheldon feel the request from the applicant
should be approved. Andersen, Ms. Tygre and Hunt feel it
should remain open space. Hunt pointed out the building is
already over the FAR.
Anderson moved to table this application until such time as
a variance on floor area limitation is obtained from the
Board of Adjustment with no additional comments from P & Z;
seconded by Ms. Tygre.
Harvey asked the Commission if the applicant does get a
variance, would the Commission be willing to short circuit
the process and approve a growth management exemption. The
Commission said no; the applicant should go to the variance
first.
All in favor, with the exception of White and Sheldon.
Motion carried.
Aspen Mountain
Lodge - Additional
Review Sunny Vann, planning director, said there are some issues on
Requirements this project still outstanding. One of these are the
conditions of the conceptual PUD/subdivision. The rezoning
issues have either been tabled or denied. The employee
housing on Ute avenue has been deferred. The change in use
for employee housing should have some conditions attached.
The P & Z has dealt with the multi year allocation and
decided on 464 units. Vann said he would like to go through
the conditions so that the staff can prepare a resolution.
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