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HomeMy WebLinkAboutFile Documents.401 Castle Creek Rd.0024.2019 (84).ACBKDetailed, RFIs Grouped by RFI Number Request for Information 048 Aspen Ambulance District Facility FCI Constructors, Inc. - GJProject # 10-17-033 Aspen, CO 81611 Tel: 970-434-9093 Fax: 970-434-7583 RFI #: 048 Date Created: 10/17/2018 Author Company Authored ByAnswer Company Answered By Chamberlin Architects, Inc. Jonathan West FCI Constructors, Inc. - GJ Sam Meeks 437 Main Street Grand Junction, CO 81501 P. O. Box 1767 Grand Junction, CO 81502 Co-Respondent Author RFI Number DisciplineSubject Category ClarificationArchitecturalElevator Call-Out Phone Line Company Name Contact Name Copies NotesCc: Chamberlin Architects, Inc. Daniel Gartner 1 FCI Constructors, Inc. - GJ Brady Blackmer 1 FCI Constructors, Inc. - GJ Brian Young 1 FCI Constructors, Inc. - GJ David Hale 1 Question Date Required: 10/24/2018 Per discussions during the 10/9/2018 OAC meeting, the requirements for the elevator call out line were brought up. The following questions were brought up by the owner: 1. Can the elevator call-out line be through the voice over IP (VOIP) system or is it required to run as a copper landline? 2. Is the call-out line required to be dedicated to the elevator only? Please confirm the questions above for the elevator call-out phone line. Suggestion Answer Date Answered: 10/29/2018 1. The elevator call-out can be through V.O.I.P. 2. The elevator call-out line is not required to be dedicated, however, there must be equipment which will automatically command the line whenever it is needed. 3. See ASME A17.1 2.27.1.1.1 through 2.27.1.1.3 for additional information. WLM 10/29/18 Prolog Manager Printed on: 10/29/2018 FCI_Integration Page 1 ASME A17.1-2013/CSA 840.13 well as the contactors in the brake circuit, are in the de -energized position. After each stop in conformance to 2.26.9.6.1(a)(2), the car shall not respond to a signal to start if current flow exceeding normal leakage current through the other means is detected. 2.26.9.7 Where generator -field control is used, means shall be provided to prevent the generator from building up and applying sufficient current to the eleva- tor driving -machine motor to move the car when the elevator motor control switches are in the "OFF" post. Ban. The means used shall not interfere with mainte- nance of an effective dynamic -braking circuit during stopping and standstill conditions. 2.26.9.6 The control circuits shall be so designed and installed that the car speed in the down direction with rated load in the car, under normal operating conch - tions with the power supply on or off, shall not exceed governor hipping speed, or 125% of rated speed, which- ever is the lesser (see also 216.8). 2.26.10 Absorption of Regenerated Power When a powersource is used that, in itself, is incapable of absorbing the energy generated by an overhauling load, means for absorbing sufficient energy to prevent the elevator from attaining governor hipping speed or a speed in excess of 125% of rated speed, whichever is less, shall be provided on the load side of each elevator power supply line disconnecting means (see 2.16.8). 2.26.11 Car Platform to Hoistway Door Sills Vertical Distance Where ANSI/ICC A117.1 or ADAAG is not applica- ble, the vertical distance between the car platform sill and the hoistway door sill on passenger elevators shall be in accordance with the following: (a) it shall not exceed 13 mm (0.5 in.) on initial stop at a landing Od the car shall relevel if the vertical distance exceeds 25 mm (1 in.) while loading or unloading 2.26.12 Symbols 2.26.12.1 Where reference is made requiring word- ing to designate a specific function, the symbols as shown in Table 2.26.12.1 shall be substituted for, or used in conjunction with, the required wording. 2.26.12.2 The emergency slop switch shall have the "STOP" and -RUN" positions conspicuously and permanently marked as required by 2-26.2.5(c)- 2.26.12.3 Where Braille is provided it shall con- form to the requirements in Table 226.12.1. NOTE(22612) See alio ANSI/ICC A117.1, ADAAG, and BA Appendix E_ 122 SECTION 2.27 EMERGENCY OPERATION AND SIGNALING DEVICES NOTE (2.27). Additional requirements', including Iho for 0m fighters ronunum atiom systems, may be found in the building code. 2.27.1 Car Emergency Signaling Devices 2.27.1.1 Emergency Communications 2.27.1.1.1 A two-way communications means between the car and a location staffed by authorized personnel shall be provided. 2.27.1.1.2 (a) Two-way communications shall be directed to a location(s) staffed by authorized personnel who can take appropriate action. (b) If the call is not acknowledged [2.27.1.1.3(c)] within 45 s, the call shall be automatically directed to an alternate on. or off-site location. 2.27.1.1.3 The two-way communication means (13) within the car shall comply with the following (ED) requirements: (a) tu jurisdictions enforcing NBCC, Appendix E of ASME A17.1 /CSA B44, or in jurisdictions not enforcing NBCC, ICC/ANSI A117.1. (b) A push button toactuate the two-waycommunica- tion means shall be provided in or adjacent to a car operating panel. The push button shall be visible and permanently identified with the "PHONE" symbol (see 2.26.12.1). The identification shall be on or adjacent to the "PHONE" push button. When the push button is actuated, the emergency two-way communication means shall initiate a call for help and establish two- way communications. (c) A visual indication on the same panel as the "PHONE" push button shall be provided, that is acti- vated by authorized personnel, to acknowledge that two-way communications link has been established. The visual indication shall he extinguished when the two- way communication link is terminated. (d) The hvoway communication means shall provide on demand to authorized personnel, information that identifies the building location and elevator number and that assistance is required. (e) After the call acknowledgement signals are sent [2-27.1.1.3(c)], the two-way voice communications shall be available between the car and authorized personnel. (� The two-way communications, once established, shall be disconnected only when authorized personnel outside the car terminate the call or a timed termination occurs. A timed termination by the two-way communi- cation means in the elevator, with the ability to extend the call by authorized personnel, is permitted if voice notification is sent a minimum of min after communi- cation has been established. Upon notification, author- ized personnel shall have the ability to extend the call; C, C ASME A17.1-20131CSA 844-13 Table 2.26.12.1 Symbol Identification 123 Proportions Braille Message (Open Circles Indicate Unused Dots Within Function Tactile Symbol Where ProWded Each Braille CO) typical —= between u • •• II I,if Ar • • • 1 Door Open ' I ' E IB.0 mm OPEN" E Rear/Side ' ' •• �• •• Door Open REAR/SIDE OP"EN" • • • •ME Oaar close ' I ' • • • CLOSE ggR b H N • • • 111 •• Rear/Side ' ' • • • • • • Door close aEARSIDE CLOSE 88 Np gra Main • • MAIN" y"gg$ Alarm •• • AL"AR"M e8 R w H :••• • ME Phone •• PHONE" Po w •• •• •• Emergency © • • • Slap "ST"OP sz eye 123 ASML A17.1-2013/CSA 644-13 automatic disconnection shall be permitted if the means to extend are not enacted within 20 s of the voice notification. (g) The two-way communication means shall not use a handset in the car. (h) The two-way communications shall not be trans- mitted to an automated answering system. The call for help shall be answered by authorized personnel. (i) Operating instructions shall be incorporated with or adjacent to the "PHONE" push button. (131 2.27.1.1.4 Where the elevator rise is 18 m (60 ft) or more, a two-way voice communication means within the building accessible to emergency personnel shall be provided and comply with the following requirements: (n) The means shall enable emergency personnel within the building to establish two-way voice commu- nications to each car individually. Two-way voice com- munication shall be established without any intentional delay and shall not require intervention by a person within the car. The means shall override communica- tions to outside of the building. (b) Two-way voicecommunications, onceestablished, shall be disconnected only when emergency personnel outside the car terminates the call ora timed termination occurs. A timed termination by the hve-way crommuni- cation means in the elevator, with the ability to extend the call by authorized personnel, is permitted if voice notification is sent a minimum of 3 min after communi- cation has been established. Upon notification, author- ized personnel shall have the ability to extend the call; automatic disconnection shall be permitted if the means to extend are not enacted within 20 s of the voice notification. (d Once the two-way voice communication has been established, the visual indication Isee 2.27.1.1.3(c)l within the car shall illuminate. The visual indication shall beextinguished when the two-way communication is terminated. (d) Operating instructions shall be incorporated with or adjacent to the two-way voice communication outside the car. Instructions shall conform to 2.27.7.3. 2.27.1.1.5 If the two-way communications means is normally connected to the building power sup. ply, it shall automatically transfer to a source of standby or emergency power as required by the applicable build- ing code or, where applicable, Standard for Health Care Facilities (ANSI/NFPA-99), after the normal power sup- ply fails. The power source shall be capable of providing for illumination of the visual indication Isee 227.1.1.3(c)] within the car, and the means of two-way communica- tions for at least 4 h; and the audible signaling device (see 2.27.12) for at least 1 h. (13) 2.27.1.1.6 (a) The two-way communications means within the car shall include a means to verify operability of the telephone line, where 124 (7) verification of the telephone line operability shall be automatically performed (2) verification may be continuous or periodic (3) periodic verification shall be at least on a daily basis (4) verification shall not require activation of the two-way communications link(s) If means other than a telephone line (e.g., VOIF, net- work, intercom, etc.) is used for the two-way communi- cations, similar verification of this equivalent means shall be performed. (b) If the verification means in 2.27.1.1.6(a) deter- mines that the telephone line or equivalent means is not functional, an audible and illuminated visual signal shall be activated. A minimum of one visual and one audible signal shall be provided for each group of elevators controlled by a "FIRE RECALL" switch. (1) The visual signal shall (m) be located at the designated landing in the vicinity of the "FIRE RECALL" switch and visible to elevator user(s) (b) be labeled "ELEVATOR COMMUNICA- TIONS FAILURE" in red letters a minimum of 5 mm (0.25 in.) high (c) illuminate intermittently (d) continue illuminating intermittently until the telephone line or equivalent means is functional (2) The audible signal shall (a) be 10 dBA minimum above ambient, but shall not exceed 80 dBA measured at the designated landing "FIRE RECALL" switch (b) sound at least once every 30 s with a mini- mum duration of half a second (c) continue to sound until silenced by author- ized personnel or the telephone lineor equivalent means is functional (3) A means to silence the audible signal shall be provided and shall be accessible only to authorized per- sonnel. The signal when silenced shall remain silent for a period of no less than 12 hr or until activated by the next failed periodic verification Isee 227.1.1.6(a)(3)]. (4) The verification means in 227.1.1b(a)shall con- tinue to monitor the operability of the telephone line or equivalent means while the telephone line or equivalent means isnot functional on a continuous basis or periodi- cally with intervals of not more than 5 min. When the verification determines that the operability of the telephone line or equivalent means has been res coed after being nonfunctional, the audible signal shall be silenced unless the signal has already been silenced in accordance with 2.27.1.1.6(6)(3) and the illu- minated visual signal shall be extinguished. 227.1.2 Emergency Stop Switch Audlble Signal. When an emergency stop switch (2.26.2.5) is provided, �.a 01