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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.20200422 REGULAR MEETING HISTORICAL PRESERVATION COMMITY APRIL 22, 2020 Chairperson Greenwood opened the meeting at 4:30 p.m. Commissioners in attendance: Gretchen Greenwood, Nora Berko Roger Moyer, Jeffrey Halferty, Scott Kendrick, Sheri Sanzone Commissioners not in attendance: Kara Thompson, Bob Blaich Staff present: Amy Simon, Interim Planning Director/Historic Preservation Officer Sarah Yoon, Historic Preservation Planner Andrea Bryan, Assistant City Attorney Wes Graham, Deputy City Clerk APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Mr. Moyer motioned to approve the minutes of April 8th, Ms. Sanzone seconded. All in Favor, Motion carried. PUBLIC COMMENT: None. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS: None CONFLICTS: Ms. Berko and Ms. Sanzone stated that they both have a conflict with 134 E. Bleeker. STAFF COMMENTS: Ms. Bryan stated that there was a memo and resolution attached to the HPC packets outlining Code of Conduct. Ms. Bryan stated that this was not in response to anything that happened with HPC however with another board. Ms. Bryan said that this was an outline of rules and conduct that both the board and public must follow. Ms. Bryan stated that there wasn’t anything controversial in this resolution but can answer any question one might have. Ms. Greenwood asked if everyone took the time to read the resolution. Ms. Sanzone asked if HPC should hold board members to this standard as well. Ms. Bryan stated in a way we already do. She further explained how it was written it can be applied to public and commissioners. Mr. Moyer motioned to approve code of conduct resolution Ms. Berko seconded. Roll Call Vote Ms. Greenwood, YES, Ms. Berko, YES, Mr. Halferty, YES, Mr. Moyer, YES, all in favor motion carries. Note Ms. Simons internet went down and HPC had to go out of order on the agenda until Ms. Simon could rejoin. CERTIFICATES OF NO NEGATIVE EFFECT: Ms. Yoon stated that a Certificate of No Negative Effect was issued for 419 E. Hyman Avenue to replace all non-historic windows for the residential unit on the second floor. CALL UPS: Ms. Yoon stated that 125 W. Main St. did not get called up. REGULAR MEETING HISTORICAL PRESERVATION COMMITY APRIL 22, 2020 PROJECT MONITORING: 109 N. 2nd Street. Ashley Satterfield from Charles Cunniffe Architects. Owner Dennis Chookaszian Ms. Satterfield stated the first change she wanted to propose was to keep the ramp that services the front entry. Ms. Satterfield stated that the ramp blends in with the landscape and is inconspicuous. Ms. Satterfield pointed out that the handrail is very minimal. Ms. Satterfield showed visual aids of the ramp and lack of impact to the aesthetic. Ms. Satterfield stated that there will be minor upgrades to the ramp, including plank replacement and handrail reinforcement. Ms. Satterfield stated that the second item that they are proposing for a change is to replace the windows currently in the log cabin with energy efficient ones. Ms. Satterfield stated their intent was to replicate the window design. Ms. Satterfield stated that the windows currently very difficult to open and even if refurbished in an emergency they would be a hinderance. Ms. Satterfield showed visual aids showing the deterioration of windows. Ms. Satterfield stated that the current storm windows detract from the historic resource. Ms. Satterfield reiterated the proposal to replace all the windows and have them look identical to what is there now. Mr. Chookaszian stated that when he acquired the building that there were only a few original windows left and that many have broken of the years. Mr. Chookaszian stated that the windows that are there are damaged and stuck. Mr. Chookaszian said if anyone tries to remove them the windows, they would end up breaking in the process. Mr. Chookaszian reiterated that the windows are not safe and in case of an emergency they could not open. Mr. Chookaszian pointed out that the windows are also real energy inefficient. STAFF COMMENTS: Ms. Simon stated that she went and looked at the windows with owner’s permission and she did not see the dire situation that was presented. Ms. Simon stated that the windows look in fair conditions and that restoration is more appropriate for historic windows. Ms. Simon pointed out in photos that the cabin indeed had storm windows back in the 1960s. Ms. Simon stated that she does not recommend replacement of the windows without further site visits by monitor. Ms. Simon stated that the ramp is inconspicuous and a useful feature and is in support of keeping in place. Ms. Berko asked what bonus was granted to this project. Ms. Simon stated that it was very small, about 30 feet. Mr. Chookaszian stated that the ramp is needed for handicap accessibility. Ms. Sanzone asked has the current ramp design been reviewed by the Building Dept. Mr. Chookaszian stated that the Building Dept has not reviewed the ramp. Mr. Chookaszian said he would be happy to work with them on any design. Ms. Greenwood asked if the windows were true divided light and what will the detail be if you replace. Ms. Satterfield stated that she believes that they are not true divided light. REGULAR MEETING HISTORICAL PRESERVATION COMMITY APRIL 22, 2020 Ms. Simon stated that they are true divided light and they show the characteristics an older style window. Mr. Greenwood asked if you were going to replace the windows what company and materials will be used. Ms. Satterfield stated that they would use a Kolbe product. She further explained that in this case the window would not be a true divided light. Ms. Greenwood stated that it is pretty clear that staff is not in favor of replacing the windows, would rather see a restoration. Ms. Greenwood said that staff is in favor of keeping the ramp and that the Building Dept will need to be involved. She further stated any changes will need to be brought to the monitor. Ms. Berko asked if the Building Dept was going to make any changes that HPC be involved. Ms. Greenwood asked who is the monitor on this project. Ms. Simon stated that it is Mr. Moyer. COMMISSIONER COMENTS: Mr. Moyer stated that he is in favor of the ramp and restoration of the windows. Ms. Berko stated that she is in totally agreement with staff and would like to see restoration. Mr. Kendrick stated that he agrees with staff’s comments. Mr. Kendrick stated without further information he is in favor of restoration of the windows. Ms. Sanzone stated that she supports staff’s recommendations for both. Mr. Halferty stated that he agrees with staff’s recommendation for the ramp and restoration of windows. Ms. Greenwood stated that she is sympathetic to the argument of energy efficiency and operation of the windows. Ms. Greenwood asked for more information about the window’s and if it’s really realistic to restore. The contractor stated he can get samples of replacement windows, and also bringing in a professional to discuss restoration of these windows. Ms. Greenwood stated that she is not a fan of Kolbe and Kolbe windows. Ms. Greenwood said she understands why one would pick Kolbe and Kolbe but they look so obviously new. Ms. Greenwood stated that she agrees with staff and fellow commissioners. Mr. Chookaszian stated that he is not opposed to paying more for divided light windows. Ms. Greenwood stated she wants to take a vote to show support for staff’s recommendation. All commissioners agreed. REGULAR MEETING HISTORICAL PRESERVATION COMMITY APRIL 22, 2020 Ms. Berko and Ms. Sanzone left the meeting. NEW BUSINESS: 134 East Bleeker, Minor Development Review, Relocation, and Setback Variations. Representative Sara Adams from BendonAdams Ms. Adams stated that the project that was last presented was much bigger in scope and she took HPC comments to heart and now has a revised project. Ms. Adams reviewed the history of the historic cabin and barn. Ms. Adams pointed out that there was a large remodel in the 90s and all the siding was removed from the barn and cabin. Ms. Adams further explained that there was a curb cut and direct access to the garage from Aspen St. Ms. Adams stated that the new plan is a minor HP review, and would include landscape touch ups, replacement of nonhistorical fence, addition of trees on Aspen St., adding of sidewalks. Ms. Adams stated that there will be an update to the historic porch that faces Aspen St. Ms. Adams stated that the asphalt roof will be replaced with wood shingles. Ms. Adams said that they are required to remove the curb cut and replace the current garage door with windows. Ms. Adams stated that they were able to create two onsite parking spaces. Ms. Adams stated that they will be keeping the walkways the same however providing new hardscape. Ms. Adams showed the main entrance walkway being slightly moved from the dripline of the silver maple tree. Ms. Adams stated that the secondary walkway from Aspen St. will be skinner and detached from the patio. Ms. Adams showed the flower beds and vegetation being pulled away from the building. Ms. Adams stated that the fence is not original referencing photos. Ms. Adams points out that part of the fence does not meet code and is more of a privacy fence. Ms. Adams proposed the removal of both fences and replaces them with white picket fence. Ms. Adams recommended replacing the light fixture on the front main entrance and secondary entrance with a gooseneck fixture. Ms. Adams showed the proposed elevation changes from each side. Ms. Adams stated the only thing happening to the landmark are minor repairs. Ms. Adams showed the alley view elevation change and pointed out in the new proposed plan the garage door now is twenty-one inches long. Ms. Adams explained with extra inches given to the garage, a car could parallel park with more ease. Ms. Adams pointed out that HPC has the new renderings in their packets for references. STAFF COMMENTS: Ms. Yoon pointed out that this project has gone from a major to a minor review. Ms. Yoon stated that there is relocation being triggered due to the under pinning under the historic cabin. Ms. Yoon stated that the guidelines are very specific in making the front walkway the true primary walkway and maintained as such. Ms. Yoon stated that staff was concerned with the secondary walkway, she further explains that the applicant has address this concern by making that path more narrow and detached. Ms. Yoon stated that staff was concerned about the landscaping and vegetation to close to the historic building. Ms. Yoon pointed out that the applicant addressed this by removing the shrubs closest to the historic home. Ms. Yoon stated that the existing fence is not historic and the revised fence proposal meets the design guidelines. Ms. Yoon stated that the light fixture detail is a new and staff would like to further discuss appropriate scale as a condition for staff and monitor. Ms. Yoon stated that the two new windows on the east facing side of the barn addition need to be distinguishable from the historic windows as a feature of its own time. Ms. Yoon stated that staff recommends HPC further discuss the details pertaining to the garage door and if possible, reduce the length of the REGULAR MEETING HISTORICAL PRESERVATION COMMITY APRIL 22, 2020 door to reveal the corners of the structure. Ms. Yoon outlined the conditions that are attached that staff would like to see. Mr. Moyer asked how old is the iron fence and what is staff asking for with the garage. Ms. Yoon stated that staff is not sure how old the fence is but it is not original to the site. Mr. Moyer asked when was the house relocated to the current site. Ms. Yoon stated it was relocated in the 1960s. Project Architect Cristof Eigelberger stated the garage is determined by a larger car turning radius. He pointed out that the door tracks that point inward take up a few inches. Mr. Kendrick stated that he is in support of the garage parking being fully utilized. He asked if anyone has done a mockup of the garage with a real car to see how tight it can be and if the door itself will be matching the siding. Ms. Yoon stated the garage door will match the siding. Ms. Greenwood asked why they don’t have to meet the residential design standards. Ms. Yoon stated that all historic land properties are exempt from residential design standards. Mr. Halferty asked how does the garage door open. Mr. Eigelberger stated that it opens overhead, five panel. PUBLIC COMMENTS: Ms. Yoon stated that three letters were sent in. Ms. Yoon summarized each letter. Community Church support of changes that have been made. Denise Diers does not have further abjections but had comments related to the construction management plan and other topics related to Engineering. Howey Mallory echoes support in parking on site, but objects to the removal of the existing fence. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS: Ms. Greenwood stated that this is a really good project and commended the applicants for their hard work. Ms. Greenwood said that the architect has handled the garage door beautifully. Ms. Greenwood stated that she is favor this project with conditions and add lighting for staff and monitor approval. Mr. Moyer stated that he is ok with the conditions. Mr. Moyer added imagine if you were walking in the west end and you see the iron fence, you will know this house is a historic. Mr. REGULAR MEETING HISTORICAL PRESERVATION COMMITY APRIL 22, 2020 Moyer stated that he is adamantly opposes the white picket fence. Mr. Moyer asked if it is possible to remove the frame from garage door to make it flush. Mr. Halferty stated support moving this project forward. Mr. Halferty stated that he agrees with Mr. Moyer about the fence. Mr. Halferty said he would like to see staff and monitor review. Mr. Kendrick stated that he is in favor of revised staff comments. Ms. Greenwood stated that a new fence is appropriate and needed. Also, an iron fence is not historically appropriate for a miner’s cabin. Ms. Yoon requested that HPC add a new condition requesting a financial insurance of $30,000 for the historic home. Mr. Moyer asked if there is any way they could deny the picket fence. Ms. Yoon stated that there is nothing in the guidelines saying we can say they have to keep the iron fence since it is not historic to the site. MOTION: Mr. Halferty motioned to approve resolution #11 with conditions attached, Mr. Kendrick seconded. Roll Call Vote: Ms. Greenwood, YES; Mr. Halferty, YES; Mr. Kendrick, YES; Mr. Moyer, YES. All in favor motion carries. Mr. Halferty will be the monitor. ANNUAL AWARDS: Ms. Simon presented the annual HPC award nominees and categories. The commissioners agreed to review offline and send Ms. Simon their picks. Presentation of winners will be held first in person city council meeting. Ms. Simon announced that there will be no meeting May 13th. Mr. Moyer moved to adjourn Mr. Kendrick seconded, ALL in favor, Motion carried. __________________________ Wes Graham, Deputy Clerk