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REGULAR MEETING HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION JUNE 24, 2002
Chairperson Greenwood opened the meeting at 4:30 p.m.
Commissioners in attendance: Gretchen Greenwood, Nora Berko
Roger Moyer, Scott Kendrick, Sheri Sanzone
Commissioners not in attendance: Kara Thompson, Bob Blaich, Jeffrey Halferty
Staff present:
Amy Simon, Interim Planning Director/Historic Preservation Officer
Sarah Yoon, Historic Preservation Planner
Andrea Bryan, Assistant City Attorney
Wes Graham, Deputy City Clerk
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Ms. Berko motioned to approve the minutes of May 27th; Mr.
Kendrick seconded. All in Favor, Motion carried.
Mr. Kendrick motioned to approve the minutes of June 10th; Ms. Berko seconded. All in Favor,
Motion carried.
PUBLIC COMMENT: None.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS: Mr. Moyer stated that he would like to see a requirement
for applicants to come in with a model of the project. Mr. Moyer requested that HPC take a bike
trip around some of these projects. Mr. Moyer stated that he feels that some of the projects are
too large in scale and encroach on the historic resource.
Ms. Berko asks about the construction that is taking place on Hallam St. between 3rd and 4th.
Ms. Simon stated that the owners came in and were approved at the staff level. They will be
adding an at grade patio and does not affect the historic resource.
Ms. Berko stated that this will be her last meeting after 12 years. Ms. Berko stated that it is time
to pass the torch and it has been a great 12 years.
Ms. Greenwood stated that she would like to see the applicants for HPC come to a few meetings
and see how the meeting flows.
Mike Siedenburg stated that models should be digital. Mr. Siedenburg further explained that in
this day and age there is no need for physical models and that physical models can restrict the
audience.
Ms. Greenwood stated that she agrees with Mr. Siedenburg and would not want to add additional
work on to the applicant.
CONFLICTS: Ms. Thompson has a conflict of interest on 110 Neal ave.
STAFF COMMENTS: Ms. Simon stated that 1020 E. Cooper ave will be continued to August
12th. Ms. Simon requested that there be a motion for the continuance.
Mr. Moyer motioned to continue 1020 E. Cooper ave to August 12th. Mr. Kendrick seconded,
All in favor. Motion carried.
Ms. Simon stated that she was in support of a bike tour later in July.
CALL UPS: None
OLD BUSINESS: 500 W. Main
Mr. Moyer motioned to continue 500 W. Main St to July 22nd. Mr. Kendrick seconded, All in
favor. Motion carried.
REGULAR MEETING HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION JUNE 24, 2002
NEW BUSINESS: 110 Neale Avenue, Conceptual Major Development Review. Steve Wilson
from Forum Phi Architecture, LLC Representing owner.
Mr. Wilson stated that 110 Neale av. was apart of a historic property lot split, the historic
resource was moved to the lot above. Mr. Wilson described the project as a simple cross-shaped
gable and a T shaped construction. Mr. Wilson stated that the property was developed at a lower
grade to accommodate the historic resource on the lot above. Mr. Wilson pointed out the lager
gable form that connects the master bedroom to the dining and living area. Mr. Wilson stated that
there is a simple gable and pended porch in place now, he further explained that the intended
project will redesign the gable and porch to simplify the plan to echo the T shape plan and
adding a wrap-around porch while adding a secondary entrance off Queen St. Mr. Wilson stated
that there will be an eighty-foot separation for the proposed project to the historic resource. Mr.
Wilson pointed out that this lot is unique in the fact that there is this much space between the two
lots. Mr. Wilson stated that one of the goals will be to simplify the facade into a more unified
look while suppressing the massing to the street. Mr. Wilson stated with the massing being
pushed back will give the opportunities for a front porch. Mr. Wilson stated that the project will
not be extending into the view corridor of the historic resource. Mr. Wilson referred to
viewpoints to showcase how dense the trees are surrounding the property. Mr. Wilson stated that
the main gable will be cut back from the street creating a separation of mass and scale. Mr.
Wilson reiterated that will keep any additions or realignment of the view corridor of the historic
resource. Mr. Wilson stated that this triggers chapter 11.3 and typically involves a connector of a
new addition to a historic resource. Mr. Wilson further explained that there is no connector on
this project but looking at the mass and scale of this building to the historic resource. Mr. Wilson
stated that the project will be using simple shapes rather than the complex shapes that are in
place now. Mr. Wilson stated that the porch element will have a depth change from six-feet to
seven-feet and a length over 18-feet.
STAFF COMMENTS: Ms. Yoon showed an aerial photo of the split lot of the proposed project
and the historic resource. Ms. Yoon stated that staff reviewed and approved the RVF standards
and does not need any more additional variances. Ms. Yoon stated that this project triggers
chapter 11.3, how a detached structure should appear in scale in proportion to the historic
resource. Ms. Yoon stated that staff had lengthy conversations about the scale and making sure it
fits in size-wise with the historic cabin. Ms. Yoon stated that staff did not feel that the project
met the fulfillment of chapter 11.3. Ms. Yoon stated that staff recommends that the applicant do
a restudy on the mass most visible from the northwest elevation to meet design guideline 11.3.
PUBLIC COMMENTS: Ms. Yoon stated Ann Short owner and neighbor submitted a written
letter attached to these minutes.
Ms. Short called in and stated that the reason for her participation is to educate herself and that
her family was not notified. Ms. Short stated that due to COVID-19 mail could have been
disrupted.
Mike Siedenburg neighbor. Mr. Siedenburg stated that this project looks great and the architects
have done a great job.
Ms. Sanzone asked if they should be concerned about mail being disrupted and challenge the
determination.
Ms. Bryan stated that HPC should not be worried, the applicant signed an affidavit that notices
went out.
REGULAR MEETING HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION JUNE 24, 2002
Mr. Wilson stated that he wanted to show what the massing would look like. Mr. Wilson showed
a photo that was taken from the historic rescores master bedroom and a photoshop image of the
massing in place.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS: Ms. Greenwood stated that the architects have done a great
job with the presentation, communication with neighbors, and no further study is needed. Ms.
Greenwood stated that she would like to see this move forward.
Ms. Berko stated that the mass is enormous, and that tree cover only cuts it for a few months out
of the year. Ms. Berko said that she agrees with staff and would like a restudy on 11.3.
Mr. Moyer stated that the reduction of the entry is a good starting point. Mr. Moyer further stated
that he is in support of staff’s recommendations. Mr. Moyer pointed out maybe story poles
would be helpful.
Mr. Kendrick stated that he agrees with making it a more unified project but reads as a larger
façade. Mr. Kendrick said he would like to see this broken up a bit more.
Ms. Sanzone stated that she is in support of a restudy. Ms. Sanzone stated that the trees that help
hide the project will be impacted by development and create more of an impact on public
walking by on Neal.
Ms. Berko motioned to continue 110 Neale Avenue to July 22, 2020, Mr. Moyer seconded, All
in favor 4 yay, Opposed 1, Motion passes.
Ms. Berko motioned to adjourn, Mr. Moyer seconded, All in favor.