HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.boa.19850221 RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
Special Meeting Board of Adjustment February 21, 1985
Vice Chairperson Francis Whitaker called the meeting to order at
4 : 05 p.m. with members Charlie Paterson, Josephine Diann, John
Herz, Rick Head, and Anne Austin present.
CASE#85-1/CHATEAU SNOW CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION
Paul Taddune, city attorney, noted this meeting is being held at
his suggestion. He had received a telephone call from Whitaker
after the last meeting. Whitaker had asked him two questions.
First, was the determination by the Board on the Chateau Snow
Condominium Association within the Board' s purview. Second, was
John Herz qualified to be a board member. Herz has a listing in
the Snowmass directory. Whitaker had asked if Herz could sit on
the Board of Adjustment since he had changed his residence from the
City of Aspen to the Town of Snowmass.
Taddune presented his analysis. The Charter requires a person be
a resident-elector of the City of Aspen in order to be a member
of a permanent board or commission. The elements of a resident-
elector are physical presence and an intent to remain in that
location permanently. Applying the elements to the facts is not
always an easy matter. The city has addressed these elements in
prior elections. First, the City of Aspen was challenged for
having a three year residency requirement for electors. Second,
Council member Dick Knecht was challenged. Research was done to
determine what constituted a resident-elector. Defining a
resident-elector is difficult. Living conditions in Aspen are
difficult. Many transients reside in Aspen. Some people live in
Aspen permanently but decide to be resident-electors of other
place for income tax or voting reasons. The law is read and is
applied so that the intent to remain permanently predominates
over physical presence. Someone can leave the area for a couple
of months or a year and still be a resident-elector of a particular
area. A person can only have one residence.
Herz ' s situation was not unknown to Taddune ' s office. Herz had
moved about as a result of dissolution proceedings. Herz had
talked to Taddune some time ago about his status on the Board.
Herz had some difficulty obtaining living accommodations in Aspen.
Herz also had talked with Gary Esary, a past assistant city
attorney. Esary had construed the same requirements as Taddune
and had interjected a reasonable standard of six months. That
six month period has expired. Without addressing the issue
whether or not the Board was properly constituted in the past,
Herz should resign as a member of the Board of Adjustment.
The next question was whether or not the Board was properly
constituted at the last meeting. Herz was not a qualified member
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of the Board of Adjustment at that meeting and Anne Austin was not
present at the meeting . If Austin had been present at that
meeting, and if Austin had acted on the matter, then the Board
would have been properly constituted to make a decision. Under
that scenario, the issue of whether or not the Board was properly
constituted would be moot.
Taddune addressed the query could the Board make a decision on
Chateau Snow as a matter of law. The Board had discretion
in the matter. The Board had acted within the Boards purview.
One could debate whether or not the decision was arbitrary and
capricious. One could debate whether or not the decision was an
abusive discretion. That argument can always be made.
Taddune had instructed Whitaker to move forward and to reconvene
the Board of Adjustment in order to discuss this matter openly.
No one should be offended by this action. It is good to get
problems out on the table.
Whitaker remarked he learned a long time ago that city government
must go by the rules. Once government deviates from the rules,
problems develop. At the end of the previous meeting Whitaker
was in a state of shock. He never had seen the Board fail to
follow its own rules of procedure. Whitaker quoted from a
document that was prepared and based on the state statutes and
the city code:
"The Board must make two separate findings to grant a
variance. First, the Board must find the applicant has
practical difficulties and unnecessary hardships without a
reasonable, legal alternative. Second, even if the Board
finds practical difficulties or unnecessary hardships it
must decide whether to grant the variance on the basis of
the factors found in Section 2-22 (d) (1, 2, 3, 4) of the Aspen
Municipal Code. "
He listed the factors:
"l. That the special conditions and circumstances do not
result from the actions of the applicant . (Whitaker
noted the Board never discussed this during the Chateau
Snow proceedings. Only Whitaker had stated that the
applicant was creating the leakage problem by not
shoveling the snow. )
2. That special or extraordinary circumstances apply to
the subject property that do not apply similarly to
other properties in the same vicinity and zone.
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3. The granting of a variance is essential to the enjoyment
of a substantial property right enjoyed by other
properties in the same vicinity and zone but denied the
subject property because of the special conditions or
extraordinary circumstances.
4. The granting of the variance will not adversely affect
the general purpose of the Comprehensive General Plan. "
The Board did find a practical difficulty and hardship in the
case of Chateau Snow. The Board granted a variance on that
finding. But, according to the code and to state law that finding
is not sufficient basis to grant a variance. The Board expects
people to follow the rules set by the Board. The Board must also
follow its own rules. The Board did not follow its own rules
during the Chateau Snow proceedings. That is his major concern.
The second concern was the Board did not specify the amount
of square footage to be increased. The Board did not state it
was granting the minimum variance. The Board is required by law
to grant the minimum variance. He questioned whether the Board
acted properly by making only one finding and by granting the
variance on the basis of that one finding.
Austin challenged Whitaker ' s interpretation that the Board has to
apply all four criteria to each case. The Board in the past has
not applied all criteria in granting variances. She understood if
one criteria were to apply to a case, then the Board could grant
a variance.
Austin asked what would not entitle the Board of Adjustment to
make a decision on this case. Taddune clarified the two issues.
First, if the Board had been properly constituted at the last
meeting what would have the decision been. Second, what is the
Board of Adjustment ' s authority under the circumstances. The
rules and regulations set forth in the code are subject to
interpretation. The Board of Adjustment is the body that applies
the law to the facts. Under the Municipal Code, the Board is
granted a certain amount of discretion to accomplish its purpose.
Taddune quoted the code:
"Where there are practical difficulties or unnecessary
hardships in the way of caring out the strict letter of the
zoning laws, passing upon appear- , modify the
application of these regulations and provisions relating to
the use, construction, or alteration of buildings or structures
or use of land, so that the spirit of the ordinance will be
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observed, public safety and welfare secured, and substantial
justice done. "
The Board should apply the standards that Whitaker listed in
varying strict application of the zoning laws. It is prudent for
the Board of Adjustment to be conservative. Conservative analysis
means apply all criteria. However, as a matter of law, the Board
has a certain amount of discretion.
Bob Hughes, counsel for the applicant, understood the Board
functioned to adjust equities when strict application of the
zoning code to a specific piece of property was wrong. The Board
is invested with discretion to adjust those equities . The
standards provide a good barometer for the Board. But , the
standards are not the only barometer. He quoted the code:
"The following shall be considered valid reasons for granting
a variance. "
If the statement were to support Whitaker ' s interpretation, the
statement would have been constructed to say "and no others. "
Other reasons are valid. Many of the standards were met at the
previous meeting. An argument could be made that the special
circumstances did result from the actions of the applicant. But,
the Board did not accept that argument. His client has tried for
ten years to solve his problem. His client has failed. Substantial
evidence had been introduced that shoveling the snow did not
solve the problem. The problem is just as bad in the summertime.
Both rain and snow aggravate the problem. The record of the
proceedings indicated that evidence was introduced for each of
the four points. Those four criteria are not the only criteria
to be considered, are good barometers, and are to be observed in
most cases. The four criteria are not the absolute benchmarks.
Even if the Board does not find evidence of those standards and
does not find practical difficulties and unnecessary hardships, the
Board can grant the variance.
Whitaker articulated his concerns. What happens if the proposed
construction does not work? Second, this action sets a precedent
that faulty design and construction are bases for granting a
variance. The Board usually grants variances on setbacks, on
heights, on side yards , etc. Anyone could come forward with
the request to enclose a leaky deck. Considering precedent is
important . The Board has to adhere to the rules. Whitaker
cited again:
"Even if the Board finds practical difficulty or unnecessary
hardship it must decided whether to grant the variance on
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the basis of the factors in Section 2-22 (d) (1, 2, 3, 4) . "
Hughes challenged that statement. That statement is not in the
municipal code. Whitaker explained the Board drafted this
document which represented the Board ' s guidelines and rules.
Hughes argued the lay public follows the municipal code.
Hughes addressed the issue of precedent. Granted the Board must
be mindful of establishing precedents. But , -each individual
application must be judged on its own merits. His client demon-
strated a compelling case for a variance. His client demonstrated
ten years of futility to correct the problem. If another applicant
were to demonstrate a similar case, then the Board should grant
that variance also. Do not grant a variance to someone who does
not try to correct his problem. Try to identify those points of
distinction between precedent-setting cases and non-precedent-
setting cases. His client has a compelling case, has a track
record of good faith effort to solve the problem without the
Board' s assistance, and has come to the Board as a last resort.
Granting the variance in this case is prudent and fair. Turn the
next applicant down if he cannot demonstrate a compelling case.
The Board can deny the next applicant a variance and can argue
that the new applicant has not demonstrated the same effort
as the Chateau Snow.
Whitaker understood Haberman presented a reasonable alternative
to the problem. The reasonable alternative was why he denied the
variance. Austin argued Haberman would not guarantee his work.
Whitaker noted Haberman guaranteed that the flashing would not
leak . Hughes interjected Haberman would not guarantee the
elimination of water leakage.
Mann commented on the four standards. The Board had discussed
the standards generally, not specifically, at the February 14th
meeting . The important phrase is have substantial justice
done. " The Board' s action last week had represented substantial
justice. - The- Board had not talked specifically about the four
criteria. The Board had failed to state a minimum variance in
the motion. Granting a variance without a minimum is her concern.
Mann recalled a dialogue several months ago about the specificity
of the Board ' s motions. She understood the representations in
the record of the proceedings would support the motion, even if
the motion were not specific. Whitaker clarified that counsel
had directed the Board not to state the reasons to deny or grant
a variance in the motion. The minutes document the reasons for
the motion. Taddune advised resolutions of approval . The
resolution of approval is based on the findings, states the
exact variance, and delineates the extent of the variance.
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Whitaker requested Taddune draft a model resolution. Taddune
recommended from now on that a resolution of approval be imple-
mented.
Mann repeated the Board last week had granted substantial justice
for this particular case. The Board last week did not set a
precedent. She evaluates each case individually and each on the
material presented in the packet and at the meeting.
Austin commented she had read and reviewed the same section on
standards that Whitaker had. She interpreted it differently.
The special conditions and circumstances do not result from the
actions of the applicant. The architectural design is beyond the
control of the applicant. The building is architecturally
faulty. She quoted: "special or extraordinary circumstances
applied to subject property that do not apply similarly to other
properties. " This building is unique. Decks are built over
living space, that design is not common. Approval of the variance
will not set a precedent. The applicant is being denied a
property right . The engineer has stated let the situation
continue as is and the building will rot and collapse. The
applicant has the right to preserve his property. The drawing is
not very attractive. But, the Board does not evaluate design and
aesthetics. The applicant has tried for eleven years to remedy the
situation with various improvements. The Board should not deny
the applicant an entitled right. The structure is nonconforming,
but the building was built before the FAR was enacted. The
enactment of the FAR regulations was beyond the applicant ' s
control also. She would vote to grant the variance.
Taddune advised the members to articulate their position on the
case as presented today. Have any members changed their February
14th vote.
Taddune addressed a query on minimum variance. Taddune understood
the Board assumes the minimum variance is implied in the application
and in the motion. Austin said that is her interpretation. The
applicant is only enclosing existing decks. Head noted the
Board was never presented figures to include in the motion.
Hughes argued the request is the minimum ; the applicant is
enclosing finite, existing space.
Bill Drueding, building inspector, understood when the applicant
applies for a building permit he will not be allowed FAR beyond
the existing deck. The ground level is the problem. How should
Drueding handle the ground level ? Enclosing the lower level
increases the FAR. The ground level is not a deck area. Taddune
asked is the first floor intended to be a living space. Erin
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Hazen, applicant, explained the ground level patio is equivalent
to the upstairs decks. She referred to a lengthy discussion in
the February 14th minutes about the ground level. The first
floor is three feet below ground level. A basement is below the
first floor. welling water is a potential problem. Austin
asked does the concrete patio extend beyond the decks above.
Hazen answered yes. Austin asked does the applicant intend to
enclose the concrete area and extend the enclosure beyond the
decks above. will trees be cut down? Hazen said the applicant
and owners like the 23 trees. The building is not large. The
drawing is deceptive.
Paterson noted currently snow and water accumulate in the well.
The snow and water appear to be draining on their own. The
concern is cascading melting snow from two floors above. The
snow and water build-up in the well could increase 100% . That is
the argument for enclosing the lower floor. He preferred a
drainage solution over an enclosure solution. If the Board wants
a minimum variance, do not enclose the lower floor. Hughes
asked was there substantial discussion at the last meeting about
the need to enclose the first floor. Austin noted the minutes
indicated a discussion about the drainage problem. Paterson
recalled he had asked at the last meeting whether the lower
floor could or could not be enclosed. He recalled the answer had
been drainage was a problem, the door sill was only 1/2 inch above
the concrete, and the well was three feet deep.
Whitaker asked how will the applicant solve the problem of the
entrance and drainage at ground level. The Board and applicant
discussed this.
Mann asked were the variance to include the word "minimum" would
that assist the building department. Drueding replied yes. But,
the Board is granting the variance based on the representations
of the perspective rendering. Drueding understood he has to
implement the rendering. He understood the variance covers the
two decks on the upper floors and the patio of the first floor.
The patio protrudes beyond the upper decks. The applicant could
have presented the exact square footage and a plan of the first
floor . The applicant could have been more specific. But, the
applicant only presented the rendering. The rendering is part of
the record. The Board has accepted the rendering . If the
applicant fails to present a similar plan for the building
permit he will direct the applicant back to the Board of Adjustment
for further clarification.
Hughes asked would the applicant have to return to the Board if
he were to present to the building department a building plan
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less intense than the original plan. Could the building department
issue a building permit for a less intensive building plan without
the Board' s approval? Drueding answered if the plan were less
intense he would issue the permit. Hughes emphasized the applicant
will try to produce a less intense design. Everyone has agreed
the rendered design is offensive. The applicant wants to subdue
the design. If the Board were to grant a variance for the
proposal presented in the perspective drawing, the applicant
would not have to return to the Board for approval, Drueding
would simply grant the building permit outright.
Taddune reported a telephone call with E. Hazen on the day
following February 14th meeting. During that phone call E. Hazen
had expressed that she was to meet with the architect and to
discuss the best way to render the solution. She had mentioned
that rendering was only the first attempt. E. Hazen repeated she
does not like the design presented in the rendering. The construc-
tion company drafted the drawing. No one likes the design. The
rendering does not delineate trees. The building as rendered
appears as a skyscraper. The building really is very small.
Austin noted no one will see the lower floor, the lower floor is
obscured by trees. whether the lower floor is glassed in is not
important . The real consideration is the snow build-up. She
believed if the lower floor were not glassed in there would be
substantial snow accumulation in front of the door.
Mann again asked would square footage assist the building inspec-
tor. Drueding replied square footage and elevations to scale
would be helpful.
Austin asked what will the applicant do with the outside stairs.
The stairs terminate at an unopened, enclosed glass structure.
Paterson mentioned the stairs lead no where. The fire regulations
may require the stairs for a fire exit. The steps are located on
either side of the building. Austin suggested a glass door.
Hughes directed his client to supply the building inspector
the square footage of the enclosed area. Enclosing the decks in-
creases the floor area ratio. He advised the Board grant the
variance with a statement that defines the square footage not be
greater than the extension of glass from the existing balconies.
The building inspector can then double check the square footage
for the building permit. Taddune argued the building inspector
would check the square footage any way. Austin asked why does
the Board need the square footage to grant the variance, the
Board is only granting a variance to cover the existing deck.
Drueding said he cannot determine the exact square footage from
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the rendering. The information on the rendering is minimal. He
needs the square footage of the existing upper deck, the second
deck, and first floor patio. Is he only to allow the enclosure
of the first floor to extend as far as the upper decks? The
rendering illustrates the first floor extending beyond the upper
decks. Head noted all this information would be on the condominium
plat. Drueding emphasized the Board approved the variance at the
last meeting based on the representations in the rendering.
Paterson argued the first floor enclosure has to extend to the
existing concrete wall. Drueding asked is the Board using this
rendering to determine its variance. This rendering was part of
the record. The Board did approve earlier the variance as
defined by the rendering. He requested specifics. Hughes said
the applicant can provide the calculations. Drueding again asked
for clarification, is the lower level being enclosed and how far
is the enclosure to extend. Hughes remarked the enclosure will
probably follow the contours of the existing footprint of the
building.
Taddune summarized the minimum variance is implied. The existing
decks are intended to be enclosed. If there is a problem of
extension beyond the existing decks, Drueding can return to the
Board for clarification of intent. Mann argued the variance
approved at the previous meeting stated "enclosing decks. " The
variance did not say anything about the patio. Hazen clarified
"deck" is the same as "pat-io. "' Taddune explained under the code
the Board has to grant the minimum. Minimum variance is a
commandment for the Board, whether or not the Board states the
minimum variance in the motion. The Board has no authority to grant
anything but a minimum variance.
Whitaker asked is it necessary to enclose the first floor in
order to solve the drainage problem. Hughes replied the record
of proceedings from the earlier meeting had supported the contention
it was important to enclose z.,. st floor. The structural
engineer should answer this question. Whitaker requested this
question be answered. Hughes replied the question had been
sufficiently answered in the previous meeting. Whitaker asked is
the well below grade. Paterson answered yes. The well is 2-1/2
feet below grade. Review page seven of the February 14th minutes.
Head asked what if the Board overturns the previous decision.
Taddune answered it is premature to answer that question. He
needs to poll the Board first for a new determination. The
questions, such as minimum variance, have been answered and the
Board can make a clearer decision at this time. Taddune asked
has anyone changed his position from last week . The Board
members did not change their positions. Taddune summarized the
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Board' s accomplishments today: the Board delineated the decision,
the Board learned about the proper qualifications of Board
members, the meeting was productive, and he commended everyone
for attending and working through the problem. He directed Herz
to tender his resignation.
Herz apologized for the problems he had caused. He tried to be
upfront with everyone. This is his sixth year on the Board. He
did approach Esary and Taddune on the residency issue. He has
respected Whitaker for years. He is a customer of Whitaker ' s,
he has asked Whitaker to speak at the Rotary, and he has invited
Whitaker to his house for dinner. He was upset with the manner
in which this entire situation came about. Clearly, Whitaker had
been upset with the decision. He hoped Whitaker had not used
Herz ' s residency as a tool to challenge the Chateau Snow decision.
Whitaker replied that was not the case. He had tried to call
Herz after the last meeting and then had discovered Herz ' s Snowmass
listing in the telephone book.
Taddune clarified the official vote affirms the earlier decision
on Chateau Snow; only Whitaker opposes the motion. The variance
is granted along the lines discussed in this meeting.
Whitaker adjourned the meeting at 5:00 p.m.
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Barbara Norris, Deputy City Clerk
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