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BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
JUNE 26,1986
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
4:00 P.M.
A G E N D A
I. CALL TO ORDER
II. NEW BUSINESS
Case # 86-13 / John Star
III. ADJOURNAMENT
Regul-aT Meeting Board of Adjustment June 26 , 1986
Chairman Remo Lavagnino called the meeting to order at 4:10 p.m.
with members Francis Whitaker, Josephine Mann, Charles Paterson,
and Ron Erickson present.
CASE 86-13 JOHN STAR
Lavagnino read the requested variance, "The property is located
in the RMF zoning category. Section 24-3 .4 area and bulk
requires 25 foot maximum height. Proposed construction will
exceed this height maximum, therefore, this request for a height
variance".
Gideon Kaufman , representing the applicant, presented the
affidavit of posting and photograph of same. Kaufman said the
variance request is for 18 inches, and there is an aesthetic
problem if this is denied. Kaufman told the Board this is not a
non-conforming use, it is a residential use in an RMF zone. The
applicant needs to tie into a structural beam in order to enjoy a
substantial property right. This will also enable the applicant
to prevent creating a community hardship. Kaufman said this is
not increasing FAR nor increasing the number of units. This
request is to make space that is presently in existence habitable
by creating a space one can stand up in. Kaufman told the Boards
when this building was built, the height limit in the RMF zone
was 28 feet.
The applicant is proposing to match the existing roof line and
not create an aesthetic unpleasing situation. Kaufman reminded
the Board he appeared for a variance in the floodplain, and the
Board granted the variance based upon a community hardship
feeling it was more appropriate to relocate the building because
of community concerns. Lavagnino said the Board does not
consider aesthetics; it is not one of the criteria. Kaufman told
the Board when the building was built, a structural beam was
installed at 28 feet, and they would like to tie into that beam.
Kaufman said this is not increasing FAR. Kaufman told the Board
he has meetings with neighbors to explain the requested variance.
Kaufman showed pictures of views of the building, the existing
roof line, the beam they would like to tie into. The board
discussed tying under the beam, looked at the condominium map.
Paterson pointed out depending the way this is measured, it could
be only 15 inch variance. Lavagnino asked if there are side
elevations of the existing dormer. Kaufman said the proposed
dormer is in a different unit and a different location .
Lavagnino said if the applicant is discussing property rights
being denied, if the other unit with a dormer has this property
right, he would like to see the width of the existing unit. The
Board should not approve more than the existing unit. Lavagnino
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said the Board grants the minimum variances to allow applicants
to enjoy a property right someone else has.
Erickson asked what is the existing use of this space. Kaufman
said it is dead space, a person cannot up stand up in this space.
Erickson asked the size of the unit. Kaufman said this is a
studio unit. Erickson asked if this dormer space would form
another room. Kaufman said it would not create another room.
Erickson said he would like to know if the other dormer was
constructed when the building was constructed. Kaufman pointed
out the recorded condominium plat, showing the dormer. Whitaker
asked if this is a non-conforming building because it is over the
present height limit. Kaufman said this is a non-conforming
building, not a non-conforming use. The Codes does not allow
changes to a non-conforming use but does allow changes to a non-
conforming building.
Whitaker said he feels it would be possible to lower the roof
pitch and the applicant would not have to ask for a variance.
The applicant could structurally tie down. Kaufman said the
structural beam does not affect just this unit; this is not a
practical solution because it would effect the whole building.
Lavagnino suggested to minimize the variance, the applicant could
bring another beam in under the existing beam. Whitaker said the
applicant could run straps down to support the ridge of the new
addition at a lower level and bring it to a conforming height.
Ms. Mann asked what the ceiling height would be if the applicant
did receive a variance . Dennis Cyrus , representing the
applicant, said the ceiling would be 7-1/2 feet. Whitaker
illustrated how the side walls could be left the same, drop the
pitch and support the beam. Kaufman said solutions can be
created that have aesthetic concerns that are not appealing to
the neighborhood. The Board should take into account pedestrians
having to look at the solution.
Lavagnino opened the public hearing.
Lee Pardee, owner of condominium unit in the building, asked if
there would be an increase in the FAR of the building by adding
this dormer . Pardee said there may be FAR available to the
building that this applicant may be taking. Paterson said if
they are not adding to the floor plan, there is no increase in
FAR. Whitaker asked if the floor runs out to the existing line
of the building and how high is it at that point. Kaufman said
it is less than 1 foot at the edge of the building. Pardee said
if there is no increase in FAR, and the applicant has the option
of doing the same height, but through the interpretation of the
Code would make a longer roof , he would be in favor of the
variance request. Pardee said this can be built, and he would
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prefer to have it done with the same roof pitch and as
attractively as possible.
Suzanne Caskey, representing Margaret Pace Wilson, said Ms.
Wilson is concerned because of the scale of the neighborhood has
gotten too big. Ms. Caskey said these objections are a matter of
principle. Ms. Caskey told the Board she has been to the site,
and if the applicant can add this space anyway, they would prefer
the option of the variance with less apparent bulk . Carol
Blomquist, adjacent neighbor, told the Board she was a member of
the committee that got the height limit lowered in this
neighborhood. Ms. Blomquist said her problem is with the Code
adding balconies and dormers. Irma Prodinger, Hearthstone House,
said all that can be seen from these neighborhood is bulk.
Alan Bush, Park Central West condominiums, told the Board this
variance will be a visual impact from some of the units. Bush
said he tried to see the plans before the meeting, but was unable
to locate any. Bush said he feels the bulk of the neighborhood
is too high and the visual impact of any extension will be
significant to some property owners. Bush said if they are
allowed to do an extension without a variance, he would like to
see drawings of the extension and the extension with a variance.
Bush said if they can do it anyway, it should be done so that it
looks better than worse. There should be comparisons of the two
alternatives. Kaufman showed sketches of the two alternatives,
one built to Code, one built with a variance. Kaufman said the
issue is measurement of the height based on what type of roof
there is.
The Board looked at drawings of the two alternatives. Lavagnino
said what is allowed seems like it defeats the Board's purpose.
What is allowed by Code extends the roof line and gives greater
bulk. Rob Weien, building department, said the Code states when
height is measured you start at the existing ground elevation.
On a flat roof you measure the top of the roof. When you have a
pitched roof, you measure to the mid point between the peak and
the ridge, that is the height of the roof. The exception is if
the distance from the mid point to the peak is greater than 5
feet, then the maximum height becomes 30 feet. This is to keep
buildings from having a large sloped roof and still measuring the
height to the mid point. - Weien pointed- out- in this- application
the difference between the eave and the ridge elevation is 6
feet. If you design to the maximum of the Code, you would design
for a difference of 10 feet from the eave to the peak, and the
mid point would be 5 feet. The distance from the mid point to
the ridge wold be 5 feet maximum. Weien told the Boards that is
what the "allowable " drawing shows . Lavagnino said the
"allowable" drawing appears to be bulkier.
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Paul Anderson, 210 Cooper , said there may have been some
conditions when this remodel was done. Erickson asked if the
applicant needs or has approval from the condominium association
for this addition. Kaufman said the condominium association has
approved the change. Pardee said he is not sure this was
mentioned in the proxys ; however , that is not the Boards '
problem. Pardee asked if the Board granted the variance, would
the applicant have to construct what they have presented.
Lavagnino said the Board has the plans on file, and the applicant
is to build to the evidence presented to the Board. Pardee said
if the applicant- receives a variance,- they can build a smaller
dormer with a balcony; if they don't get the variance it is the
same height with a broader dormer and no balcony. Pardee said in
that case, he would be in favor of the variance.
Lavagnino closed the public hearing.
Whitaker said the argument about the structural problem is
something that can be solved. The argument about the pitch of
the roof is invalid because the south elevation and east
elevation have different pitches anyway. Whitaker said he
considers the two presented drawings a form of blackmail .
Whitaker said the pitch of the roof can be reduced to that of the
other elevations and no variance would be required. Paterson
agreed this can be built 18 inches lower; however, he does not
feel it is a good solution for the neighbors. Paterson said he
would vote in favor of the variance based on these drawings.
Whitaker said with this suggestion, you are creating exactly the
same conditions at either end of the roof line that you are
trying to get away from.
Paterson pointed out the variance solution creates more
ventilation and a healthier environment. Paterson said there are
enough circumstances that make this case a practical difficulty.
Erickson said he feels the applicant has illustrated that
following the Code does not always produce the best solution.
Erickson said he feels the drawings give the Board a strong
reason for granting a variance. Ms. Mann agreed with Paterson' s
arguments. Ms. Mann said the 18 inches asked to be granted may
in effect by 15 inches if measured precisely. Ms. Mann said this
seems a small request. Ms. Mann said she does not want to be in
a situation to create more bulk , but this request seems
practical. Lavagnino said he would like to put a covenant on
this request so that the structure is built the way it is
proposed to the Board.
Whitaker asked if there is a 7-1/2 foot requirement on the
ceiling, and could this be avoided by running the roof down to 2
feet . Weien told the Boards the plans presented were not
complete enough to determine what the build out of the building
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is. Weien said he cannot tell the Board how much of the parcel
has been used up. Lavagnino asked if the Board should be
concerned in a condominium building about the division of FAR
between units in a complex. Kaufman said there is a question of
whether the deck area will count in the FAR. Weien said
generally going from non-habitable to habitable space adds area
to be counted in the FAR calculation. Whitaker said the Board
should know what the FAR ratio is and what has been used up on
this parcel. Whitaker said if there is a possibility that this
would put the building over the limit, he would like to know
that. Lavagnino said the variance could be conditioned upon this
addition not go over the FAR requirements. Lavagnino said this
application does not address FAR. Cyrus said if the variance is
granted and they apply for a building permit, and it is over FAR,
the permit will be rejected. Alan Bush agreed some covenant
should be put on this restricting any future changes to extend
the bulk. Lavagnino said the Board is assuming the application
meets all other requirements.
Erickson read a letter from Hotel Lenado supporting the request,
that it has no negative impact on the neighborhood generally.
The letter states that the highest point of the building will not
be increased, and the variance request is minimal. Paterson read
a letter into the record from Kathleen Daily, resident of the
Aspen Townhouses West, expressing opposition to any further
expansion of the Good Thunder building, particularly a height
variance.
Lavagnino moved that based on the evidenced presented at this
meeting the Board grants this variance with the stipulation that
no extensions of the pitch of the proposed new dormer be extended
at any future date
Whitaker said he does not feel the criteria to grant a variance
has been met. The City Attorney has told the Board this does
not have to be stated in the motion but it must be brought up in
the discussion.
Lavagnino amended his motion to add that practical difficulties
have been established; seconded by Erickson. Roll call vote; Ms.
Mann, yes; Paterson, yes; Whitaker, no; Erickson, yes; Lavagnino,
yes. Motion carried.
Lavagnino asked that the problems caused by this measurement of
the roof be conveyed to staff. Kaufman said this case points out
a hypocrisy in the Code, and the reason they appealed to the
Board is that they were caught in an unfortunate situation.
Erickson said the Board is sorry Kim Wilhoit left and that she
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did a very good job. The Board requested a commendation
resolution be drawn up.
Erickson moved to adjourn at 5:35 p.m. ; seconded by Paterson.
All in favor, motion carried.
Kathryn S. , och, City Clerk
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