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REGULAR MEETING HISTORIC RESERVATION COMMISSION DECEMBER 9 2020
Vice Chairperson Thompson opened the special meeting at 4:30 p.m.
Commissioners in attendance: Jeffrey Halferty, Kara Thompson, Scott Kendrick, Roger Moyer,
Sherri Sanzone.
Commissioners not in attendance: Gretchen Greenwood
Staff present:
Amy Simon, Interim Planning Director/Historic Preservation Officer
Sarah Yoon, Historic Preservation Planner
Kate Johnson, Assistant City Attorney
Wes Graham, Deputy City Clerk
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Mr. Halferty moved to approve the minutes; Mr. Kendrick
seconded. All in favor.
PUBLIC COMMENT: None
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS: Mr. Halferty shared his condolences for the passing of Art
Daily.
DISCLOSURE OF CONFLICT: None
PROJECT MONITORING: Ms. Simon stated that there has been a lot of communication
about setting up meetings with the monitors about the 517 E. Hopkins. 105 E. Hallam more
information and updates to come to the monitors.
STAFF COMMENTS: Ms. Simon said that there will be back-to-back HPC meetings due to the
Christmas holiday. She stated the next meeting will be Ms. Greenwoods last meeting since she
will be moving Down Valley and that the election of Chair and Vice-Chair will take place at the
first meeting of January.
CALL UPS: Ms. Simon stated that Council called up 211 West Hopkins. Council passed this
item at first reading and will discuss in more detail about the project in the new year.
OLD BUSINESS: None
NEW BUSINESS: 227 E. Bleeker Street - Conceptual Major Development. Kim Raymond
Architecture + Interiors
Ms. Raymond stated that the historic cabin has been neglected for many years. She said through
the years there have been elements added but there are clues to what is historic and what is not
historic. Ms. Raymond stated that this building has unique features that have not been seen
before, pointing out the flat roof porch that has been enclosed. She showed a survey map that
indicated that the bay window hangs over a bit of the setback line. She indicated that they will be
seeking a variance for this issue. Ms. Raymond stated that the building is slightly squid on the
property and when the new foundation is placed, they will take that opportunity to straighten the
structure. Ms. Raymond showed the floor plan of the resource and pointed the non-historic
additions that were added at some point like the enclosed porch area, a storage closest, and the
deck in the back of the building. Ms. Raymond showed the proposed site plane and stated that
the historic resource will remain in its original footprint with the one-degree correction. She
explained that with a simple shift adjustment to the new addition the transformer will not be in
the way while maintaining the full parking space next to the garage. Ms. Raymond stated that the
historic resource is 1,120 sq. ft. and the new addition will be 694 sq. ft. with a connecting
element of 84 sq. ft. She showed a rendering of the three levels and how they would connect. Ms.
Raymond stated that this lot is allowed 1,800 SF and is hoping with the historic preservation
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efforts they will be awarded the addition of 250 SF bringing the total to 2,050 SF. Ms. Raymond
said that the variance setbacks that are being requested are the bay window in front of the
building, and a deck on the second floor of the new addition that lines up with the garage that is
1.9 ft back from the 5 ft setback however, the deck is 3ft 3in over the living area setback. She
said that the plan is to be as respectful as they can be to keep breathing room in the alley. Ms.
Raymond said that the final variance they are seeking is in the basement to align the basement
foundation to the garage. She explained that this is below grade and will not be visible to anyone.
She stated that they did receive a letter from a neighbor concerned about alley space and that
they feel they have met those concerns. Ms. Raymond pointed out the smaller size of the addition
in relation to the resource. She pointed out that on the back wall of the historic cabin there are 2ft
of historic cabin exposed on the east and 14 ft exposed on the west side, there will be 8 ft taken
for the connecting element. She explained that the new addition is 4 ½ ft smaller in width than
the historic cabin giving more breathing room to the side yard. Ms. Raymond showed the
proposed elevation map showcasing the unknown historic door. She explained that at this point
they don’t know much until they are able to start the careful deconstruction. Ms. Raymond said
that the shape of the new addition is matching the resource with a modern twist. She pointed out
the shallow gable roofline on both buildings and the partial matching ridgeline. Ms. Raymond
said that the window shape of the new addition will match the historic cabin windows, tall and
narrow. Both respecting the form and fenestration. Ms. Raymond stated that the linking element
will be glass on the east side and will slide right under the eve of the historic cabin. Ms.
Raymond showed pictures of the neglected interior and pointed out that the floorboards run in
one direction to a thresh hold then change direction leading them to believe that this once was
the original door that was enclosed.
Mr. Moyer asked if the new addition will be setback further than the Hayes garage which is a
few lots down.
Ms. Raymond stated that yes it will be set back 6ft 9in back from the property line.
Ms. Thompson stated that in the memo there was a comment from the Engineering dept. that the
historic resource will need to change pitch for positive drainage.
Ms. Raymond stated that an updated letter that did not make it into the HPC packet, stated that
their engineer can make the positive drainage work without altering the pitch. She further said
that there will be details presented at the next meeting.
Ms. Thompson asked what the height of the linking element is.
Ms. Raymond stated that it is 8 ½ ft.
Ms. Thompson asked about the height of the rain garden
Ms. Raymond stated that will come at the final review, the engineer is still working out the
details.
Ms. Sanzone asked what is their plan to keep the trees protected while putting in the basement.
Ms. Raymond said that they have not reached that level of design yet. She explained that they
have worked in tight spaces before and know how to work around the trees and roots.
Ms. Sanzone asked what the plan is for the stormwater collection and if it would be subgrade.
Ms. Raymond stated that they have not gotten to those details yet.
Ms. Sanzone stated that from an HPC point of view that the devices or grates should not be
visible from the street.
STAFF COMMENTS: Ms. Yoon stated that there is a lot of preservation potential for this
project. She said that the staff recognizes that there have been additions added towards the front
of the cabin. Ms. Yoon said that the applicant is asking for major development, relocation
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because of the full basement, setback variations, and floor area bonus. Ms. Yoon showed the
Sanborn of the historic cabin and stated that staff believes that the cabin is in its original lot. Ms.
Yoon stated that staff agrees with the applicant about the level of unknow with this project
regarding certain changes that have taken place on the cabin. She said that adding of any non-
historic doors is discouraged especially when dealing with a front façade. Ms. Yoon explained
that there will have to be a lot of exploratory demolition and investigation to fully understand
what that condition was historically. She stated that staff is recommending the door and
secondary walkway be removed until documentation shows more evidence and at this point, it
does not meet Design Guidelines 4.5 and 10.4. Ms. Yoon said that regarding the new addition
staff finds it modest in size. She said the applicant has addressed a staff concern about a full
parking spot with the revised plan. Ms. Yoon stated that the new addition is connected by a one-
story connector and the new addition sits 10ft back from the historic resource meeting Design
Guidelines. Ms. Yoon reviewed the site plan and stated that the stormwater system will need
further study. She reviewed the setback variation request for the rear yard setback reduction of
3’-3” above and below grade and in the front yard setback reduction of the 2’ for the roof
extension above the historic window. Ms. Yoon stated that all the criteria have been met for the
250sf floor area bonus that the primary historic entry is maintained, and the visual integrity is
preserved. Ms. Yoon stated that staff recommends approval with amended conditions attached to
the resolution.
PUBLIC COMMENT: Nora Berko submitted a letter. Letter attached.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS:
Mr. Moyer asked regarding Ms. Berko’s letter and the applicant's garage placement if the
applicant would consider shortening the connector element.
Mr. Kendrick stated that he agrees with Mr. Moyer and that the alley is very constrictive.
Ms. Thompson said that what they are approving is the deck on top of the garage and subgrade
extension. She explained that the garage could be 2ft closer to the alley and still be within code
however, the deck and subgrade are over the livability setback.
Mr. Moyer said he has no problems with the setbacks being requested.
Ms. Thompson stated that she likes the length of the connector element and that it gives a relief
between the two.
Mr. Halferty stated that he echoes the board's comments. Due to technical difficulties, Mr.
Halferty’s comments were inaudible.
Ms. Thompson said that this is an excellent historic preservation project and that the bonus
should be awarded. She stated that she has a concern about the plate height of the new addition.
Ms. Thompson explained that she understands that the project is under the height limit, but given
the resource is so small the plate height should come down a bit to be more appropriate to the
resource.
Mr. Moyer stated he agrees with Ms. Thompson.
Mr. Kendrick said that he agrees with the plate height comment. He said that when there is a
two-story new addition against a one-story resource there is always a situation between livability
and relation.
Mr. Halferty agreed with Ms. Thompson.
Ms. Sanzone stated that she has some concerns about the site's drainage plan and that it does not
work as submitted. She said that there is still a lot of work to do.
Mr. Moyer asked Ms. Sanzone what would be the worst-case scenario if there was a problem
with the drainage.
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Ms. Sanzone stated that there could be alterations to the buildings, could change the location of
the parking spot, and we don’t want to see the stormwater collection placed in the front.
Mr. Moyer asked if the parking spot be a hard surface or premeal pavers.
Ms. Raymond stated that it will be premeal pavers. She addressed Ms. Sanzone’s concerns
stating that there is enough space on the side yards to contain water and there will be no
collection in front.
Ms. Thompson stated that this can be added as a condition.
Ms. Thompson moved to approve Resolution #026-2020 with added conditions; Mr. Moyer
seconded.
ROLL CALL: Mr. Halferty, Yes; Mr. Kendrick, Yes; Mr. Moyer, Yes; Ms. Thompson, Yes;
Ms. Sanzone, Yes. All in favor, Motion carried 5-0.
Mr. Moyer stated HPC needs to be more mindful of what is being approved, regarding rear lot
setbacks, plate height, and massing.
Mr. Kendrick stated he agrees with Mr. Moyer and that some of these masses that sit on the lot
line make it feel impassable.
Mr. Moyer said that the board needs to be self-critical at points. It can be helpful to HPC and the
community.
Ms. Thompson stated that she agrees with Mr. Moyer and said that HPC should be a bit more
thoughtful when approving alley variations. Ms. Thompson stated that she would like to see a bit
more context in relation to the resource so HPC can make better decisions.
ADJOURN: All in favor.