HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.boa.19880818 CITY OF ASPEN
BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS
AUGUST 18 , 1988
MAIN FLOOR COUNCIL CHAMBERS
A G E N D A
I. CALL TO ORDER
II. ROLL CALL
III. MINUTES OF JUNE 9 , 1988
IV. CASE #88-8
LEONARD M. & CHERIE G. OATES
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RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AUGUST 18, 1988
Chairman Remo Lavagnino called meeting to order at 4:00pm.
Answering roll call were Charlie Paterson, Josephine Mann, Rick
Head , Anne Austin, Ron Erickson, Francis Whitaker and Remo
Lavagnino.
MINUTES
JUNE 9, 1988
Rick : I move to table the minutes of June 9 , 1988 to next
meeting.
Josephine seconded the motion with all in favor .
CASE #88-8
LEONARD M. & CHERIE G. OATES
Remo read variance requested. (attached in records)
Leonard Oates: Presented affidavit of posting.
Essentially what we want to do is enclose an existing building
footprint on the property in order to create more room for some
additional bathrooms in the house. The lot is not a square lot.
The shape of it makes it pretty difficult to work with. The
house was built in 1955 and was approved by the Architectural
Control Committee at the time that it was built.
We believe that when the house was built that the frontage that
was used to calculate the set back was not on the cul de sac but
rather on a road that goes off of the park that was called Park
Avenue . In 1955--the plat was signed of f on by Chairman of the
Board of County Commissioners. The house was built in 1955 in
the Spring right after the subdivision was approved.
This lot accesses through the private driveway easement which is
a written easement between Mr. Penning and myself. Mr. Penning
laid claim to the portion of the property that was in front of
his house. We laid claim to ours. Fritz Benedict gave us each
deeds to these portions of the property. We improved ours with a
garage. That has been many years ago.
Our belief is that this is a 25 ft strip of land. If you
measure this area to this area, it is within inches of 25 ft .
The original access to our house is documented to have been right
on this corner here. And we believe that the frontage that was
utilized at that time was Park Avenue as opposed to Riverside
Drive. And that these were treated as side yards at the time.
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Now with the disappearance of Park Avenue-- it doesn ' t go
anywhere other than to service this and Mr. Penning ' s property.
There just is no more frontage left so what you are dealing with
then is only Riverside Drive which makes it extremely difficult
to work with.
It is a 2 ft request for a variance into the side yard.
The development was further encumbered by the existence of the
driveway which Mr. Penning shared with us. There is a lot of
mature and very dense vegetation in the form of Aspens and
Service Berries that we would have to tear down to try and go
anywhere else not to mention the location of the access to
utilities.
The road is paved and traveled and is actually much further away
than the r-o-w as shown on the survey. It appears to us like it
is about 25 ft to the paved portion of the roadway from the
nearest portion of the deck to it and the furthest distance
about 35 ft. There is no potential for any further development
that would increase demands on this road that services only our
subdivision.
Although the property is zoned R-15 I think you are aware from
other variances on setbacks that have been solicited and granted
that the lots are very small in the subdivision and our lot is
only 10 ,700 sqft and that makes it difficult to work with the lot
as well. I would also point out that the 2 immediate adjacent
property owners are here and we believe that they are in support
of the request.
This would be carrying the shed roof line out. Perhaps a slight
change on the angle on that.
Remo: I notice that the house comes down at a slope and then it
has got this configuration at the bottom there is a little flair
out . Is that considered square footage to this house? This is
about 1 ft high. This portion is 1 ft from here to here and this
is about a foot and a half flared out at the bottom onto the
deck.
Lennie: It is included with the variance request because we are
coming up with this wall area and bringing it out. The increase
is only the deck area.
Remo: But you are enclosing this portion of the area.
Lennie: But I have already got that. It is there. It is part
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of my house.
Anne : This deck has 3 different depths to it. What are you
intending to enclose?
Lennie: Only to take a straight line across the longest portion.
Rick: I don' t think the square footage issue is a concern here.
Even if he was asking for 200 sqft it still is within the FAR.
Ron: When did you buy your house?
Lennie: 15 years ago.
Ron: So actually you bought it after the original downzoning and
the big code went into effect in 1973-1974 but prior to the
changes to the side yard and front yard setbacks.
Dorothy Telleher: We have been neighbors there for 15 years. I
was the second one who built there. Where they are going to put
this actually is well screened by trees and it is below the
level of the road. But as a neighbor who would be most likely to
be impacted by this, I have no objection whatsoever .
Russell Penning: I own the lot down below them and share the
driveway. I have got absolutely no problem with this. It is so
close to the driveway where the trees are so thick there that you
can' t see. The grade is below the street level. It virtually
can' t be seen from the road or from the driveway and there is no
impact as far as I am concerned.
Josephine: We are interested in hardships . If there is no
hardship there can't be a variance. You stated that the house
was OK as far as the situation in 1955 when it was built. But
things have happened since then in our zoning. The shape of the
lot being concave in front is difficult to work with. Then you
talked about Park Avenue and that being vacated. We got into
the idea that that was the original front yard and that now you
can' t use that because it is not public access to the street .
Another difficulty is that you share a driveway with your
neighbor. There is a lot of mature vegetation especially around
the front and the east side which, on the front, is what hides
part of what you would propose be built.
Lennie: The lots are small in the subdivision. Even though it
is R-15 all the lots are down around 10 to 11 ,000 sqft.
Remo: I doesn' t matter. You bought it knowing it was a small
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lot. I find it very difficult when somebody has in an R-6 zone
comes in with just 1 lot of 3 ,000 sqft and then uses that as a
basis for a hardship. You can only build with what you have got
to begin with and if you buy a half of a lot, you can' t claim it
as a hardship.
Lennie: It just makes it more difficult to work with because it
is- a-15 ,000 minimum square foot zoning category and in fact they
are putting you in a 15 ,000 square foot category when you are
less than that. And they are applying rules to you which apply
to 15,000 square foot lots.
Fred: A better argument in that respect is that when the house
was built and was zoned R-15 it was placed in such a position as
to make less use of the space you have. So that you had the
zoning superimposed on it, it superimposes setback which makes it
non-conforming. And the house is all centered so that basically
you are denied some of the use of your areas. And that would be
a practical difficulty with respect to the lot.
Dorothy Tellerher: As a neighbor for many years, I know that was
a do-it-yourself house. It was done by a bachelor and didn' t
need many bathrooms or anything like that and I think that he
didn' t build it with an eye to anything that a family might need
to add to it. So it is a difficult house to work with.
Remo: I think the Board has to consider what we have done in the
past. This is a fine line between adding a convenience for the
property' s owner and then having to treat this in general with
every other request for a variance that we get in the same
manner. I don' t see how we can take it out of that realm.
Fred: In respect to that, every case has to be looked at the
same. And then put that into the general parameter of what you
have got with the code. That is how you decide. So you are not
worried about setting precedence.
Remo: But still the argument of convenience is here. That is
prevalent in all these other cases that we have turned down
before.
Fred: There are 2 sets of conditions in the new code. It says
"Special conditions and circumstances which are unique to the
parcel , building or structure" . That is one. The second is that
"Granting a variance will not give the applicant any special
privilege" .
Is there something special about this lot, parcel , building or
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structure which is not applicable to other parcels, structures or
buildings in the same zone. Those are basically the areas and
you are looking under 2 criteria. One is unnecessary hardship,
the other practical difficulty.
Francis: One thing that bothers me--they are making a request to
enclose a space to add some bathrooms. We have no floor plan to
indicate whether there are any other options. I don' t feel we
have complete information.
Lennie: Drueding told me that each of the members would make an
inspection.
Ron: Give us reasons to believe that there isn' t any other place
you can add--that you do have a hardship.
Charlie: You see, the Board is traveling blind. If we had a
sketch of what is going on inside the house--for instance where
the bathroom is located.
Russell: Right now there is one bathroom and it actually forms
the hallway to the master bedroom. There is no access to the
master bedroom or the other kid' s room. You have to go right
through the bathroom.
Anne: So what you have right now is 1 bathroom and 3 bedrooms
because there is an attic bedroom served by 1 bathroom which you
have to walk through in order to get to the bedrooms.
Charlie: This boils down to practical difficulty. Now I can see
where the man has a practical difficulty . This becomes a
hardship in my opinion.
Ron: I agree. But I want to see plans of some kind. I would be
willing to table this application until the proper drawings can
be submitted .
Charlie: We need to know what we are getting a variance for .
That is what it really amounts to. Not just the roof, but what
is inside.
Anne: I would have no problem with granting this if I saw some
plans to this effect.
Ron: I can see where there is a practical hardship based on the
layout of the building plus the fact that there is 1 bath. I may
look at that as a hardship.
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Francis. How long have you lived in the house?
Lennie: 14 years.
Francis: You have lived with this hardship for a long time.
Discussion then was whether to make an on-site inspection or to
table to a date certain to give the applicant time to present
more detailed plans.
MOTION
Francis: I make a motion that we table this to a date certain of
August 25 , 1988 in order to provide time for the applicant to
bring to the Board information on the floor plan and to see if
there are any other options.
Charlie seconded the motion.
Roll call vote : Rick , yes , Josephine, yes , Charlie , yes,
Francis, yes, Remo, yes.
MOTION
Remo: I make a motion to meet at 4: 00pm on August 25, 1988 at
the Oates home and that we have an on-site inspection before the
meeting here at City Hall.
Rick seconded the motion with all in favor.
Meeting was adjourned. Time was 5 : 15pm.
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CASE #88-8
BEFORE THE CITY OF ASPEN BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS AFFECTED BY THE REQUESTED ZONING OR USE
VARIANCE DESCRIBED BELOW:
Pursuant to the Official Code of Aspen of June 25 , 1962 , as
amended, a public hearing will be held in the Council Room, City
Hall, Aspen, Colorado , (or at such other place as the meeting may
be then adjourned) to consider an application filed with the said
Board of Adjustment requesting authority for variance from the
provisions of the Zoning Ordinance, Chapter 24 , Official. Code of
Aspen. All persons affected by the proposed variance are invited
to appear and state their views , protests or objections. If you
cannot appear personally at such meeting , then you are urged to
state your views by letter , particularly if you have objection to
such variance , as the Board of Adjustment will give serious
consideration to the opinions of surrounding property owners and
others affected in deciding whether to grant or deny the request
for variance.
The particulars of the hearing and of the requested variance are
as follows:
Date and Time of Meeting:
Date: August 18 , 1988
Time: 4: 00 pm
Owner for Variance: Appellant f o r
Variance: _
Name: Leonard M. & Cherie G. Oates
Address: 1205 Riverside Drive Leonard & Cherie Oates
Location or description of Property
Location: 1205 Riverside Drive, Aspen , Colorado
Variance Requested : Property is located in the R-15 zoning
category. Front yard setback is 25 ft . Chapter 24 , Sec 5-
202 (D) (4) . Building already encroaches into front yard setback
and thus this area is non-conforming structure. Chapter 24 , Sec
9-103B. No non-conforming structure shall be enlarged that
increases its non-conformities. Applicant appears to be asking
to enlarge a non-conforming structure requesting approximately 5
ft to 20 ft encroachment variance front yard.
Will applicant be represented by counsel: Yes: No: X
The City of Aspen Board of Adjustment
130 South Galena Street, Aspen, Colorado 81611
Remo Lavagnino, Chairman Janice Carney, Deputy City Clerk