HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.boa.19890615 CITY OF ASPEN
BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
JUNE 15, 1989
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
4'00 P.M.
A G E N D A
I. CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
II. MINUTES
MARCH 23, 1989
MARCH 301 1989
III. CASE #89-9
GEORGE SHAW
IV. CASE #89-11
TERRI SCHIFF
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT JUNE 15, 1989
Vice Chairman Charles Paterson called meeting to order at 4: 00pm.
Answering roll call were Ron Erickson, Anne Austin, Rick Head,
Josephine Mann and Charlie Paterson. Remo Lavagnino arrived in
time to answer roll call.
MINUTES
MARCH 23, 1989
MARCH 30, 1989
Rick made a motion to approve minutes of March 23 and 30, 1989.
Anne seconded the motion with all in favor.
CASE #89-9
GEORGE SHAW
Remo read the variance request. (attached in record)
George Shaw: Presented affidavit of posting and pictures.
(attached in record)
What I am trying to do is build back to the roof overhang. I am
trying to do this for several reasons. I have a growing family.
I don't have a lot of money. If I have to go any other way, I
would have to gut the interior and do the whole thing over.
Our master bedroom is 100sgft and is really tight. If I did have
this 1ft6in encroachment this would allow me to do my master
bedroom in a different area of the house.
There is a letter from the only person who would see the
construction, the Johnsons. (attached in record) In the letter
they are very much in favor of it because it will clean that area
up back there a lot and make it look a lot more presentable. They
are literally the only ones that will have a view of what I am
doing.
Basically it is a question of not having enough money to do it in
a more extensive way and try to accommodate my growing family.
The last thing I could say to you is that I think it makes a lot
of common sense to do it . this way--and not spend 3 or 4 times
more money in doing it any other way. I don't have the money in
the first place and I really need this help from you folks.
Remo: The growing family and not having any money are not
considerations for this board as a reason for granting you a
variance. We have specific guidelines that address practical
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George: No money is a practical difficulty.
Remo: Unfortunately those are not our criteria for granting you
a variance.
George: For my neighbor's purposes, there is a real ugly looking
large brown storage shed in this end of the property. If I can
go ahead and build over this overhang, I can put in a wonderful
outdoor storage shed here that would make his view out of his
back a lot more palatable for him.
At this point I don't have the money to do the whole interior in
order to make the children's bedrooms bigger--they are really
tiny. I would like to come out that extra space.
The calculation of the exact amount of footage in the variance is
15 square feet.
Remo then asked for comments from the public.
There were none.
Remo then asked for comment from the staff on this case.
Bill Drueding: There is no problem with the zoning. This area a
year ago was a 5ft side yard setback. Now it is 10. That was
changed May a year ago.
Remo then closed the public portion of the meeting.
Josephine: This is really a very small request. We have to
establish a hardship or a practical difficulty. This is such a
little request in an area that is definitely not crowded. There
is lots of space around there. So it seems to me that we can
figure out some legitimate way of granting this.
Rick: This is so minuscule that if we could come up with some
kind of legitimate practical difficulty or hardship, I don't see
a problem with it especially in light of the change in the zoning
in regard to the side yard setback.
Anne: I agree with especially that last comment that Rick just
made regarding the change in the zoning. I think that this is so
minimal. It definitely takes into consideration the neighbors
and the impact. I would be in favor of granting it.
Charlie: I have trouble in finding a hardship. Technically with
what was presented there is no hardship other than that the zone
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was changed a year ago. I would consider that. Otherwise I
wouldn't.
Ron: It is a small variance. But I would not grant the variance
because I think the zone change results from something that
really exists for everyone. If we throw out the economic issues
I think there are plenty of opportunities here to expand the
house without going into a setback. I don't see a hardship.
Remo: I am inclined to agree. The terrible thing about this is
it really has no adverse effect on anyone or anything. The whole
thing is that it really doesn't meet our criteria. There are
other solutions to it. There are indentations that you can make - - -
and according to his plans it comes out right at the bedroom. All
he has to do is indent that house 1. 6in and he doesn't need a
variance. These are all new walls anyway. All he would be losing
is a foot and a half in the master bedroom. I am opposed to
granting the variance.
Josephine: I could agree with you if this were for a larger
area. But for this small an area it seems to me that this does
no go against the spirit of the general plan. And that it is
really picayune for us to deny that small a space.
I do not agree with basing the special circumstances in this case
upon the change in side yard setback.
Anne: I think there is a practical difficulty in doing that
indentation just for 1ft6in. It is really picayune like Joe
says. I think this thing is so close to conforming that it is a
practical difficulty.
Rick: He could just leave that wall alone right there and not
have to have the expense of moving it or putting a footer down
and just put that effort right over into this side.
Remo reopened the public portion of the meeting.
Discussion followed regarding placement of bathroom, plumbing
etc.
George: This is just the most cost-effective way for me to house
my growing family.
Remo asked for further public comments.
There were none and he closed the public portion of the meeting
MOTION
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Josephine made a motion to grant this variance.
Anne seconded the motion.
Anne, yes , Rick, no, Josephine, yes, Charlie, yes, Remo
Lavagnino, no.
Variance denied.
CASE #89-11
TERRY SCHIFF
Remo read into variance request. (attached in record)
Affidavit of posting was turned in. (attached in record)
Discussion followed regarding condition and placement of posted
sign. It was determined to hear the case.
Joe Krabacher presented a letter regarding a disputed parcel
between this applicant and adjacent property owners, Martha and
Paul Aspergren. (attached in record)
Fred advised the Board that in his opinion that this variance
request would have no bearing on the disputed parcel.
Marti Picket, Attorney for the applicant: Since our last meeting
with you we have had meetings with Fred and the Planning Office
and our biggest solution has been to go forward with a lot line
adjustment. As you can see the planners are prepared to grant
the lot line adjustment if we get the variance from the Board of
Adjustment. They will do that by consent and agreed that that is
a good solution.
The house is a really strange architectural design and
configuration. The most obvious architectural element is the
roof overhang which is now non-conforming into the setback by
2ft. We are requesting a 3ft variance to allow it then to go
into the setback for 5ft which will then legalize the structure.
Before we were asking for 10ft. By getting the lot line
adjustment we are now minimizing that to only 5ft.
This house is unique in that it is not currently acceptable or
liveable for a handicapped or elderly person and the applicant
needs to immediately house her Mother. The strange spiral
staircase that is there now and that is being changed
structurally. The only other possible location for the Mother is
in that back bedroom and we need some additional room for her to
live and just to be able to be mobile in a wheel chair.
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The biggest practical difficulties with the property itself are
problems that were created by previous owners prior to Terry's
purchase of the property. The strange configuration of a lot
itself. The previous owner did things like convey various pieces
of property to neighbors. In fact Terry has done that with her
immediate neighbor to the south to help them out with some FAR
and setback problems. That created a shorter setback on that
side for her so it was difficult for her to expand in that
direction.
As you heard you can see the difficulty we have in expanding
toward the side where the quiet title action is at issue. It may
well be that if that quiet title action is successful for the
adjacent owners that will have to be brought back in at least 5
or loft.
We can't expand very practically on the side of the street
because of the garage. It would take a total remodel of the roof
in order to expand in any other direction.
One of the reasons Ms. Schiff bought this adjacent property in
the first place was because it was a real eyesore. She wanted to
have control of the adjacent property just for this very reason.
She could then design this in such a fashion as to leave the
desired amount between the structures as would be required under
the code. The covenants that we have prepared would restrict
both of these property owners now and in the future to ever
remodel or come back for a variance or whatever to ever make
these closest points any closer. Currently they would be at
lease 25 feet from the closest point apart.
The only other thing I would point out to you is in Joe
Krabacher's letter he states that he thinks this is improper
because what we are trying to do is build to the maximum FAR
without waiting to see what happens in the quiet title. I would
point out that we will still be well within the permitted FAR
even if the quiet title property is deleted from this property.
So that certainly is not our intent.
Remo: You are under the square footage by how much?
Roger: 466sgft.
Remo: And you are saying that if you lose that you would still
be under by 300ft.
You talk about her buying this property so that she would have
control of the adjacent property. That implies that she could
have resolved the setback problem at the same time having had
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that control. She could have accommodated setbacks that would
have revolved around resolving the setbacks between the 2 pieces
of property.
Marti: The setbacks for this property are fine. She, in
remodeling this, has kept the 20ft setback as required.
Remo: I understand that but since she bought that property she
could have designed that house to push it away a little bit more
to accommodate her remodel for this property.
Marti: That is exactly what she did but she could not do
anything about this setback over here. This property line
exists. Now what we are trying to do is to get the lot line
adjustment.
Remo: But you are still asking for a variance. My point is that
she could have resolved it without getting a variance. She could
have designed the house in such a way that she would not have
been required to come before us for a variance. She didn't do
that. She had that opportunity and I don't think she took
advantage of it.
The elderly Mother and live-in nurse--we cannot use that as a
rational for granting you a variance. It is just not applicable.
Then in your written presentation you state "This chapter would
deprive the applicant of rights commonly enjoyed by other parcels
of the same zone district" .
What rights are being denied the applicant that are enjoyed by
others in the same zone district?
Marti: The basic one is the accessibility to an elderly
handicapped person because of the design of this particular house
and the architecture.
Remo: That is not applicable to this Board.
Marti: It is a criteria in the code for a variance--the fact
that it is uniquely different from the other houses.
Remo: But the housing of an elderly person is not.
Then the other not valid consideration is anything that is
aesthetically pleasing for the neighborhood. That is a
subjective point of view and we don't know that for a fact. We
don't take that into consideration.
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The other issues relating to the property which were created by a
previous owner seems to infer that you knew the problems or
should have known the problems when the property was purchased.
Marti: Certainly the quiet title action wasn't existing when she
purchased the property.
Remo: The installation of much needed insulation in the walls
seems to me that you can install insulation in existing walls.
I did get a call from your neighbor to the north. Her name is
Carina Wang who owns property at 205 Midland. She misinterpreted
what the variance was for and thought it was affecting her
property. I indicated to her that it wasn't so she withdrew.
Bill: We have setback rules. This has been taken to the other
staff for a lot line adjustment. The applicant has been told to
get a variance from the Board of Adjustment before we deal with
it because they thought that is where that should be coming from.
There are no unique problems with this.
Rick: If a variance were granted, I noticed that the height
would be 32 . 6. Somewhere I recall that 30ft is the height limit.
Bill: We would amend this to include a variance for height which
would increase the non-conforming by 2 and 1/2 feet.
There followed discussion regarding increasing of a height non-
conformity.
Anne: On page one you discuss the remodeling the existing
duplex. I don't see that as remodeling. I would say that is
building a new duplex. You are saying you are remodeling it for
long term resident housing. Is that to be deed restricted?
Roger: No.
Anne: So we don't know that that is to be long term resident.
Remo asked for comments from the public.
There were none.
Remo closed the public hearing.
Anne: I just don't see a hardship. I have a hard time granting
this variance.
Charlie: Right now the way it looks to me is the stairway could
be accommodated whether we grant the variance or not. Originally
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that was not the case. What concerns me is that they are not
going to consider the lot line adjustment until we grant the
variance. If we turn the variance down, they won't grant the lot
line adjustment. So the stairway then becomes a problem again.
Remo: No. The stairway works now. If they would use this now
as a truncated portion, they don't need a variance.
Charlie: And they don't have to do a lot line adjustment?
Remo: No.
Ron: I think there are other alternatives. Since the owner
controls both these properties she can do anything she wants.
MOTION
Rick: I make a motion to deny this variance.
Anne seconded the motion.
Roll call vote: Anne, yes, Rick, yes, Josephine, yes, Charlie,
yes, Remo, yes.
Variance denied.
Rick made a motion to adjourn meeting.
Anne seconded the motion with all in favor. Time was 5: 45pm.
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NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
Case #39-9
George Shaw
BEFORE THE CITY OF ASPEN BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS AFFECTED BY THE REQUESTED ZONING OR USE
VARIANCE DESCRIBED BELOW:
Pursuant to the Official Code of Aspen of June 25, 1962 , as
amended, a public hearing will be held in the Council Room, City
Hall, Aspen, Colorado, (or at such other place as the meeting may
be then adjourned) to consider an application filed with the said
Board of Adjustment requesting authority for variance from the
provisions of the Zoning Ordinance, Chapter 24, Official Code of
Aspen. All persons affected by the proposed variance are invited
to appear and state their views, protests or objections. If you
cannot appear personally at such meeting, then you are urged to
state your views by letter, particularly• if you have objection to
such variance, as the Board of Adjustment will give serious
consideration to the opinions of surrounding property owners and
others affected in deciding whether to grant or dcny the request
for variance.
Particulars of the hearing and requested variance are as follows:
Date and Time of Meeting:
Date: June 15, 1989
Time: 4 : 00 p.m.
Owner for Variance: Appellant for Variance:
Nane: George Shaw George Shaw
Address: 1210 Mountain View Drive
Location or description of property:
Location: 1210 Mountain View Drive
Block 1, Lot 8
Variance Requested: Property is located in the R-15 Zone. Side
Yard setback is 10ft .(Sec. 5-202 D5 Aspen Land Use Code)
Applicant appears to be requesting a side yard encroachment of
1ft 6in with a house wall .
Will appl - ,ant be represented by counsel: Yes: No., X
The City of Aspen Board of Adjustment
130 South Galena Street, Aspen, Colorado 81611
Remo Lavagnino, Chairman Jan Carney, Deputy City Clerk
215 south Monarch Aspen,Colorado 81611
Phone 303/925-3431
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Asepn Board of Adjustments
130 S . Galena St .
Aspen,Co 81611
Dear Sirs:
Our house , 0051 Overlook Drive , is
directly to the East of Mr . Shaw' s house .
Mr . Shaw is seeking a variance to extend his
sidewall 1 . 6 feet . As a neighbor who will be
directly effected- I wanted to pass on to you
that I do not have any objections to this
zoning reauest .
However , I would like to note that if the variz
ance `could permit the Shaw' s to create a
second level , without a well developed set
of plans and architectural renderings , I would
take exception to this variance .
respectfully yours ,
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NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
Case 439-11
Terri Schiff
BEFORE THE CITY OF ASPEN BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS AFFECTED BY THE REQUESTED ZONING OR USE
VARIANCE DESCRIBED BELOW:
Pursuant to the Official Code of Aspen of June 25, 1962 , as
amended, a public hearing will be held in the Council Room, City
Hall, Aspen, Colorado, (or at such other place as the meeting may
be then adjourned) to consider an application filed with the said
Board of Adjustment requesting authority for variance from the
provisions of the Zoning Ordinance, Chapter 24 , Official Code of
Aspen. All persons affected by the proposed variance are invited
to appear and state their views, protests or objections. If you
cannot appear personally at such meeting, then you are urged to
state your views by letter, particularly if you have objection to
such variance, as the Board of Adjustment will give serious
consideration to the opinions of surrounding property owners and
others affected in deciding whether to grant or deny the request
for variance.
Particulars of the hearing and requested variance are as follows:
Date and Time of Meeting:
Date: June 15, 1989
Time: 4: 00 p.m.
Owner for Variance: Appellant for Variance:
Name: Terri Schiff Martha C. Pickett
Address: 295 S. Midland Avenue, Aspen, CO 81611
Location or description of property:
Location: 295 S. Midland Avenue
Lot 7, Block 1, Promontory Subdivision
Variance Requested: Property is located in the R-6 Zone.
Minimum side yard setback for the lot area 5-10ft. (Sec 5-103
(D) (5) . Applicant appears to be requesting to add walls under a
current roof encroachment for a variance needed of 7ft 11in.
Will applicant be represented by counsel: Yes: X No:
City of Aspen Board of Adjustment
130 South Galena, Aspen Colorado 81611
Remo Lavagnino, Chairman Jan Carney, City Deputy Clerk
STATE OF COLORADO )
) ss. AFFIDAVIT OF POSTING OF NOTICE
COUNTY OF PITKIN )
I, ROGER KERR, being duly sworn, state that, on June 5,
1989, I posted the property located at 295 South Midland
Avenue, Aspen, Colorado, also described as Lot 7, Block 1,
Promontory Subdivision, with a Notice of the Public Hearings to
be held June 15, 1989, before the City of Aspen Board of
Adjustment.
i
OGE KERR
STATE OF COLORADO )
ss.
COUNTY OF PITKIN )
he foregoing instrument was acknowledged before me this
day of June, 1989, by ROGER KERR.
Witness my hand and officia seal.
My commission expires: ���—
Notary Public