HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.boa.19891109 CITY OF ASPEN
BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
NOVEMBER 9. 1989
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
A G E N D A
I. CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
II. MINUTES
SEPTEMBER 28, 1989
OCTOBER 12, 1989
III. CASE #89-19
PITKIN COUNTY JAIL
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT NOVEMBER 9 1989
Meeting was called to order by Chairman Remo Lavagnino at 4 : 00pm.
Answering roll call were Bill Martin, Charlie Paterson, Josephine
Mann, Rick Head and Remo Lavagnino. Anne Austin and Ron Erickson
were excused.
MINUTES
SEPTEMBER 28 & OCTOBER 12, 1989
Charlie made a motion to accept minutes of September 28 and
October 12 , 1989 .
Rick seconded the motion with all in favor.
CASE #89-19
PITKIN COUNTY JAIL
Remo read into record request for variance.
Affidavit of posting was presented.
Bob Braudis, Pitkin County Sheriff: Introduced Bud Eyler, County
Public Works Director, and Dave Webster, architect, from Caudill
Gustafson Ross.
We built the new jail about 5 years ago and tried to incorporate
a gymnasium with a sliding roof so we could handle physical
activities in fresh air. Throughout the design process we made a
lot of changes and we soon realized the sliding roof .on the gym,
the ceiling was very expensive and we were told that in this
climate, snow and ice would clog the rails. We had an example
out at the Aspen Club over their pool.
So we built the jail with a gymnasium but no facility to provide
the outdoor, fresh air, sunshine experience. We have been taking
prisoners out in small groups of 2 or 3 with hand cuffs and leg
irons on the lawn. As our population has increased to actually
exceed our capacity, that has fallen off the plate. We have had
prisoners spend nearly a year in jail without being outside.
This is an outdoor fresh air facility--very inexpensive that we
are trying to build on the south side of the jail. For security
reasons it has to have fencing and a ceiling of some sort. And
Dave has spent a lot of time designing an outdoor, fresh air
place with a chain link fence as one of the materials. And we
are here to ask for a variance from the City Land Use Code to
construct this. It will measure 11X30 adjacent to our parking
lot and abutting the south wall of the jail. It will be attached
to the bricks and come out lift.
Remo: Is this supposed to be completely fenced on top too?
Closed on top to the fencing? What is the purpose of that?
Braudis: So the prisoners can't climb out.
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Remo: Don't they have those barb wire things.
Braudis: I don't like barbed wire. And I don't like razor wire.
What we are doing is providing not a Fort Knox approach to it--
but a barrier that will allow the staff to get mobilized against
someone who is trying to get out.
Josephine: How high then is it?
Charlie: 9 feet with a 5--12 pitch. Another 4ft 6in so you have
got 13ft Tin at the highest point.
Rick: Is there some reason why you have chosen that kind of
fencing?
Webster: There is a problem with anything I could conceive of
made out of wrought iron except something that just has squares.
The hole openings in the chain link fence--somebody could throw a
gun between wrought iron bars. It is 6 gage instead of 9 so it
is slightly thicker. But it won't look any different. We are
going to paint it so it will be the same color as the roof.
Remo: This is accessing a public--in other words right on the
other side of the fence the public can look in? Is there any
buffer zone? Or is there any places that they are not supposed
to be?
Braudis: There is a very semi-public parking lot there for
police cars. And the western aspect will be totally blocked by
our brick garage which is already there. And with the parking
structure, people won't be able to see it from there. On the
other side there is a recessed driveway that has very little
visibility. People in the Courthouse looking to the north will
be able to look down on it.
Remo: But legally they are allowed to stay on the other side of
the fence and look in at the prisoners?
Braudis: That is a procedural thing. The prisoners are not
going to be out there without an officer present inside the
enclosure. Security is going to be greatly enhanced with this
addition to the building as regards taking prisoners outside.
Remo: I talked with the City Attorney to find out if someone who
is dealing with the public might have some special preference in
our deliberations. For instance if a private citizen in the
residential district said they had a dog that scaled a 6ft fence,
would that be reason enough for them to come before us and say
they want a 12ft fence so the dog doesn't escape.
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My position on that would be no, chain the dog. And by the same
token if you want a parallel you could say shackle the prisoners
to keep them in tow. But the deciding difference was that we
have a lot of residences and we have only one jail and that sets
it apart and makes it a unique situation in itself and that is
what we deal with. That is where we have a situation that is
unique to the community that other residents don't have to
conform to. So in that sense I think we do have a unique
situation here.
My only concern was then not the height so much but the material.
And chain link fence is the most, I think the worst kind of
material to use. But I didn't really understand the nature of
the security in passing through contraband--I would have said why
not do wrought iron. And from what I gathered from your
presentation that it was a financial consideration and not so
much a security consideration and in that case we don't care
about that. My concern was of prisoners escaping, not of
contraband being brought in through the bars.
Braudis: Both of those are concerns. One of the reasons for
chain link is that it absorbs little sun and will block as little
wind as any construction material . We don't want a brick wall so
that when they are out there they don't get wind. I think chain
link is the most porous material.
Dave designed the jail and he has designed I think a pretty
functional and architecturally sensitive--all it is is a dog
kennel for humans. I don't know if there is another material
that fits your code that would fit our needs.
Drueding, Zoning Dept: We just have got a situation where the
cemetery put a chain link fence around that was not visible from
the public ROW but it was up against residential homes and we are
still getting flack from that.
Remo: But the code says "From the public ROW" .
Drueding: That is why we decided to come before you. The big
difference here is that was all residential and this is service,
commercial, industrial. This is for the parking garage so it is
not going to be seen by residents or be backed up to them. It is
all public land. And we have no problem with chain link fence
there.
There were no letters from the public.
Martin: The entrance way is from the jail?
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Braudis: It will be from the jail directly. There is a garage
that we will cut a door in that so they can be taken from the
residential area into this garage and out into the kennel area.
There is no outside access.
The question on the fire code on whether we had to have 2
entrances and exits--I guess we didn't need them because it is an
outdoor area.
Remo then closed the public portion of the meeting.
Rick: I am in favor. In listening to the discussion I can see
that this is probably the most appropriate material to be used
and I am in favor of granting this variance.
Josephine: I also am in favor of granting the variance. This is
one of the few times when we have a situation where it is a
unique situation and the code doesn't really fit. So I think if
a lot of citizens go in there to look at it, they would be glad
that it is secure. I am in favor of the variance.
Martin: I support it. I think they need it.
Remo: The variance that we are granting is for height and the
material used for the fencing. But I think probably other
factors are involved that are probably more important to our
consideration than being on a public street.
Charlie: I have no problems with that. It is a minimum request
and I think it is a well thought out design and use of materials.
I would be in favor of it.
Remo: I am satisfied that all of my questions were answered.
I am in favor of granting the variance.
MOTION:
Rick: I move to approve Case #89-19 .
Charlie seconded the motion.
Roll call vote: Bill Martin, yes, Charlie Paterson, yes,
Josephine Mann, yes, Rick Head, yes, Remo Lavagnino, yes.
Charlie moved to adjourn the meeting.
Rick seconded the motion with al in favor.
Jan i e M. Ca y, City D uty Clerk
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NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
CASE #89-19
PITKIN COUNTY JAIL
BEFORE THE CITY OF ASPEN BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS AFFECTED BY THE REQUESTED ZONING OR USE
VARIANCE DESCRIBED BELOW:
Pursuant to the Official Code of Aspen of June 25, 1962, as
amended, a public hearing will be held in the Council Room, City
Hall, Aspen, Colorado, (or at such other place as the meeting may
be then adjourned) to consider an application filed with the said
Board of Adjustment requesting authority for variance from the
provisions of the Zoning Ordinance, Chapter 24, Official Code of
Aspen. All persons affected by the proposed variance are invited
to appear and state their views, protests or objections. If you
cannot appear personally at such meeting, you are urged to state
your views by letter, particularly if you have objection to such
variance , as the Board of Adjustment will give serious
consideration to the opinions of surrounding property owners and
others affected in deciding whether to grant or deny the request
for variance.
Particulars of the hearing and requested variance are as follows:
Date and Time of Meeting:
Date: November 9, 1989
Time: 4 : 00 p.m.
Owner for Variance: Appellant for Variance:
Name: Pitkin County Jail Caudill Gustafson Ross
Address: 506 East Main St. Dave Webster
Location or description of property:
Location: Lot 6 Block 19 East Aspen Addition of Court House
Variance Requested: Fences visible from the public right-of-way
shall be constructed of wood, stone, wrought iron or masonry.
And be no higher than 6ft above grade. (Definitions Article 3
Aspen Land Use Code) Applicant appears to be requesting to build
a chain link fence that will also exceed the 6ft height maximum.
Will applicant be represented by counsel: Yes: No: X
The City of Aspen Board of Adjustment
130 South Galena Street, Aspen, Colorado 81611
Remo Lavagnino, Chairman Jan Carney Deputy City Clerk
County of Pitkin } AFFIDAVIT OF NOTICE BY POSTING
}ss. OF A VARIANCE HEARING BEFORE
State of Colorado } THE CITY OF ASPEN BOARD OF
ADJUSTMENT (Pursuant to Section
6-205(E) (b) of the Municipal Code
The undersigned, being first duly sworn, deposes and says as
follows:
I. L�C�L 2 being or representing
an Applicant before the City of Aspen Board of Adjustment,
personally certify that the attached photograph fairly and
accurately represents the sign posted as Notice of the variance
hearing on this matter in a conspicuous place on the subject
property (as it could be seen from the nearest public way) and
that the said sign was posted and visible continuously from the
day of �/; y l'�-� , 19�, to the
day of (JC '` 19<. (Must
be posted for at least ten (10) full days before the hearing
date) .
Applicant's Signature
Subscribed and swor /to before me
this / S day of
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