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BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
FEBRUARY 25, 1993
4:00 P.M.
SECOND FLOOR MEETING ROOM
A G E N D A
I. CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
II. MINUTES
OCTOBER 30, 1992
FEBRUARY 18, 1993
III. CASE #93-1
JERALD BARNETT (CONT)
IV. ELECTION OF OFFICERS
V. ADJOURN
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RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT FEBRUARY 25, 1993
Vice Chairman Charlie Paterson called meeting to order at 4: 10 PM.
Answering roll call were Rick Head, Ron Erickson, Bill Martin and
Charlie Paterson. Remo Lavagnino was excused.
MINUTES
FEBRUARY 18, 1993
OCTOBER 30, 1992
After corrections:
Rick made a motion to approve minutes of February 18, 1993 .
Bill seconded the motion with all in favor.
Minutes of October 30, 1992 were again tabled to next business
meeting as only 2 members present had been at that meeting.
CASE #93-1
JERALD BARNETT
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Gretchen Greenwood, Architect for the applicant: I just want to
reiterate the zoning situation and then I would like to go into the
changes in response to the Board's comments that we have made in
the last week and also revisions to our variance requests because
of the public comments we received from Mrs. Paepcke's
representative.
I would begin with the allowable FAR and what our proposed FAR is.
The allowable site coverage. Our allowable FAR on this site is
4, 080. We are going to be taking the entire project to our
allowable FAR. We are going to our allowable FAR. We are going
for our maximum build-out on this site. It is our desire that this
property never will have to come back in for any kind of variance.
The allowable site coverage is 2,762 . We are not increasing. We
are decreasing this because we are using existing foot prints of
the building. That is the same as I presented to you last week.
As I stated in the application we are going for a setback variance
along the north and south and along the east and west. Because of
the comments last week we have changed that and we are going for
even more of a minimal variance. In analyzing it we felt that
there are more solutions.
We are going to be moving the building forward and over in order
that we have the required setback along the north side and along
the south. So we are now in conformance with our required front
and rear yard setbacks. And it is required to have a minimum of
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10 feet with a total of 30. And we have a total of 32 . 4 on the
front and rear and the minimum of 10 along the back. So that is
no longer a request at this meeting.
The other change that we are proposing to further ask for even more
minimal variance would be the side yard. We are going to be moving
the building over so that we meet our side yard minimum requirement
of 10 feet. And what is required is exactly the same as the front
and back. It is 10 minimum on the side and a 30 overall. And as
you can see on this drawing we meet the 10 foot requirement now
along the west side. We meet a partial total combined setback
along the east side just to the rear of the property.
So the minimal amount of variance that we are asking for is for a
side yard variance at this point right in here which this building
interrupts our ability to have a side yard setback and we also want
to request--because we would like to raise the roof of this
building here--we would like a setback variance along this east
side in the same manner as we are going to be increasing that non-
conformity along that side.
our existing roof height of this building is 10. 1 feet. We are
going to, for the proposed main house, a roof height of 25.8. We
are staying within the same footprint. We are just moving the
building over and getting in conformance with this building. This
new roof height is 25.8. So we are only going 5.8 feet above what
the existing roof height is.
We had a surveyor do a survey of the roof heights in the neighbor-
hood so that we can see how most of the heights exceed the
allowable height limitations. (print-out attached in record) Mrs.
Paepcke's roof is 36. 3 feet. She is probably going to have to have
a variance some day. The west neighbor has a roof height of 33.2
feet. This is a victorian. These are all not in conformance
because they are victorians. This east neighbor has a roof height
of 31.5. And George Vicenzi, which is the red brick one, with a
roof height of 33 . 5 feet.
So we are really proposing to be the lowest roof height in the
neighborhood. And the allowable roof height requirement is 25 feet
to the mid point of your roof. And then you can go 5 feet above
that to your peak. So we are within 5 feet of our allowable and
will be the lowest in the neighborhood. The other roofs on either
side are much higher. So it is not going to have a dramatic effect
on the neighborhood--in fact not one at all.
To further mitigate the neighbor's viewplain and things like that
we have gone through a pretty extensive surveying procedure around
the neighborhood. We had all these trees surveyed back here for
what the heights are and the location. And they range in size from
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50 feet to 91 feet high. They are in the vacated portion of the
alley. They are not in the alley ROW. We are investigating with
the City that there is a possibility that the alley will be opened
up and be accessible to our house to access. The City is very much
in favor of this. But in one week they couldn't give us any kind
of indication about what the process for that procedure would be.
The one thing that we really discovered I think through the whole
process in the last week was that the viewplain for Mrs. Paepcke's
property really is right through this corridor where the trees are
located. She presented pictures of the trees taken from the roof
of what could be see from this point all around. (attached in
record) - You can't see Mrs. Paepcke's house through the trees_ .
You can't even see the property line.
That is something that is really important because one of the
members said that maybe there were some other alternatives to this
plan that didn't require a variance. And the truth is that, yes,
there is another alternative. But we have determined and we have
had some discussion with Tom Todd, Mrs. Paepcke's attorney, that
that potential solution is probably more detrimental. And that
solution would not involve a variance but it would be more
detrimental to the neighbor because we would cut off those views
right through this corridor. And that is not one of our first
choices. Plus we have to do some remodeling for the victorian
which is important to Mr. & Mrs. Barnett to not have to remodel
that victorian but try to keep it in pristine form.
Right now the property does have 3 kitchens. Legally we are
allowed to have 2 legal residences on this 9, OOOsgft lot. So we
are reducing the impact in going from 3 residences or 3 apartments
to 2. This would be one main house and this will be expanded to
be a guest/employee house.
Charlie: So you are taking one of these kitchens out of this?
Greenwood: Yes. Exactly. We are taking this one out back here.
So we are bringing this into conformance. We are trying to be
sensitive to the neighbors behind us by keeping this open even
though the land slopes quite a difference away and probably their
views of the lake is not hindered. They would have to access this
property if they develop this property right through here and enter
right in through this open area to this property because of the
amount of trees on her property. So this becomes not only to be
maintained open for their development but I would say that is the
only access in there.
Drueding asked the City Attorney to come in since this was a change
in the variance request.
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John Worcester, Assistant City Attorney: Since this is a
continuation from a prior hearing, technically you don't need to
re-notice. I would strongly advise that if you are impacting a
whole different neighborhood than the original request--
Charlie: Last time this was still in the same place. This hadn't
moved. Considering that there was only one person at the meeting
last time which was the lawyer from Mrs. Paepcke and he is present
at this meeting, I would defer to him.
Tom Todd, Attorney for Mrs. Paepcke: My point is if a person made
a call to find out what the variance is about and found it was only
on the west side and said "Well, that doesn't affect me. " And now
all of a sudden there is a new building that is involved and it may
involve them very much.
Charlie: Did you talk to the neighbors?
Greenwood: Yes we did. We tried to get this neighbor to come but
he is just flying into town. We talked to the person--they know
about it that we are not doing anything to this victorian building
up front and they said "Whatever we do on the property is fine" .
Barnett: I talked to the neighbor to the east. He lives in
Rochester, New York and told him we are probably going to go up 4
or 5 feet and put a guest house up there or employee house. And
he was--it was fine with him. His name is David Levy.
Greenwood: We asked him to write a letter and he said "I am too
busy" .
It was decided by the members to proceed with this hearing.
Rick: So the variance that you are requesting is only on this
building? It appears to me that you are in compliance now over on
the rear and side yard with this building.
Greenwood: That is correct. But according to Bill because this
building interrupts our setback here even though this building sits
about 32 feet from our property line, a building setback is
required variance for this portion right here only. This part of
the building makes it. It is only this part right here.
Ron: With the little jag out from it?
Greenwood: Yes.
There was then discussion between Greenwood, Bill Drueding and
Board members regarding exactly what variance was being requested.
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Drueding: To go up at all she is going to require--we have got a
10 foot minimum side yard setback. We need a total of 30. So we
have 10 here. We have 5 here. So we need a total of 15.
Ron: Not for the whole length of the building though.
Drueding: No. But a total is still required. You need a total
of 30 to here.
Todd: Mr. Barnett was very nice to come over to our office this
morning and discuss with me the other option possibilities for this
property. I think the long and short of it is, as I understand it,
the applicant would like to change their request for setback
variance on the north side of the main residence and west side of
the main residence. And instead request a variance to put a second
floor on the old stable building. I discussed that with Mrs.
Paepcke this afternoon and she indicated to me that it is the
lesser of two evils and she certainly can't stop them from doing
anything that is legal.
Her preference would be to see single story development of this
property. Again that is possible. But it seems to me that you
prefer to go up with the second floor. It is also encouraging to
see that the applicant has been sensitive to these viewplains in
between the two buildings. Even though it is only 5 feet it is
nice to know that at least it is not being blocked by a 2-story
building.
Greenwood: It is wide. You see the roof angles back. Your view
is opened up where you want it.
Charlie: It also reduces the mass of that roof line in that area.
Todd: Mr. Barnett explained to me what the alternatives are which
would be to basically develop from lot line to lot line which would
have a more detrimental effect than what is being proposed. So I
guess given the options as we understand them I don't think Mrs.
Paepcke would object to what is presently proposed.
I wasn't aware of the procedural thing with the notice requirement.
So I offer no comment on that. If somebody else wants to come in
and challenge it on procedure,--
Charlie: I understand. I am glad you are here today because you
heard both meetings.
Charlie asked if there were any other public comments.
The Board then asked Greenwood to demonstrate what the alternative
would be to this plan. She then did an explanation and drawing of
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the alternate plan.
Greenwood: It is not a bad option. We like it. It is a viable
option for us. It is not a good solution for this property here.
Barnett: This is the reason I wanted to talk to Tom Todd before
we came over here today. Basically what happens--this is the
viewplain that they have from that property with the existing trees
and it comes--this hole in the trees right here comes directly
between the house and the current garage. The only way we could
develop the property and get into compliance here and do the FAR
and make it happen would be to close this up and it just eliminates
their view.
Greenwood: And then we would also probably build out a little bit
on top of the victorian which would be something that I think would
be offensive. Comments expressed to us shows they are happier with
what we have applied for here.
Charlie then closed the public portion of the meeting.
BOARD COMMENTS
Drueding: If you are going to do this--for the record you have 5
foot side yard variance on the easterly boundary. On one portion
for a total side yard setback we need 15 feet total variance. Then
when we go further as the house is jogged we need a 23 . 6 total
variance on the easterly side.
Rick: I would really like to see this go. And I applaud the
applicant and compliment her for coming back with the things that
we asked. I have a real problem now suddenly with the notice
situation. We have gone from a variance on the west side of the
property that has been completely changed to something that is on
the east side of the property. Notwithstanding any complaints from
the neighbors I just don't know what legal grounds we would have
when completely looking at basically an entirely new variance.
Unless someone on this Board can demonstrate to me a hardship or
practical difficulty which is what we are charged with
administering here I don't see the grounds for a variance. And
the threats for developing the whole thing don't move me much.
Ron: Last week I would have voted against this variance. I think
that the revisions that were presented today go a long way. I am
frankly amazed with the fact that they were able, in one week, to
discover this viewplain corridor and dispell any fears the
neighbors might have had about it. I think that is a real plus on
their behalf.
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I also think it creates a hardship. Because by being as sensitive
as they are to the neighbors they are eliminating the only legal
way of enlarging this property and still provide a viewplain. And
this is this one. The alternative eliminates that viewplain.
The hardship lies in trying to be a good neighbor and trying to
take into account the comments of the neighbors specifically Mrs.
Paepcke and her attorney to the rear of this lot. They are asking
for a maximum buildout on a rather large lot. It is a 9, OOOsgft
lot. We are not talking 4 ,500sgft or 6, 000 here. It is a big lot.
They are over coverage--lot coverage--so they can only go up. They
can't go out anymore. So the only they could go out is by covering
up that viewplain and removing that building--transferring that
site coverage from an accessory or second dwelling to original
dwelling. Then the hardship would be maybe they are converting 3
residences into 1 residence on a duplex lot. I don't think we
should require them to do that.
Rick: Or 2 . That is an allowable duplex lot.
Ron: It is still only one structure and we don't know what is in
it. I think that their hardship--let's just call it a practical
difficulty. Their practical difficulty is because of the nature
of the lot and the existing victorian structure on the lot. The
only way that they can legally increase the size of the building
is by denying the neighbor a viewplain. I think that is their
hardship--by being good neighbors and allowing them to--giving them
a variance on the secondary structure here, I think what we are
doing is is that we are keeping to the spirit of the code.
Rick: All right. So then the minimum variance we would be
granting would be 5 feet on the east, 15 total. And 22 total.
Charlie: 22 . 6.
Bill: I think the character of the neighborhood is something that
is very important in Aspen. And this will leave the character of
the neighborhood the same, relatively speaking, except for the
addition. That is the reason I would vote for this.
Charlie: I also think that this new plan is so much better than
the last one. It shows a great deal of sensitiveness to the
buildings and to the fact that they are victorians. I am in favor
of this variance because the alternative-the bulk is much greater.
And this keeps the spirit of the victorian look to the property.
Bill: So the record will convey that I did say something--I think
the character of the neighborhood is something that is very
important in Aspen. And this will leave the character of the
neighborhood the same relatively speaking except for the addition.
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So that is the reason I would--adding to what Ron has said that
would be my vote.
Rick: I am probably going to go for this variance. You are right.
Ron: I had a hard time finding a hardship. I can't find a
hardship. But a practical difficulty--that is a practical
difficulty.
Charlie: It definitely is.
Rick: Well, then I can hang my hat on it.
Charlie then re-opened the public portion of the hearing.
MOTION
Ron: I would propose that we grant the following variance: 5 foot
east side setback for the 34 feet that encompasses the length of
the current single story building. A 15 foot total side yard
setback for the first 23 feet of the building going north to south
and the 23 . 6 total side yard setback for the remaining 10 feet that
the building is in the setback.
(Plans for reference are attached in file)
Bill seconded the motion.
Roll call vote:
Bill Martin, yes, Rick Head, yes, Ron Erickson, yes, Charlie
Paterson, yes.
Variance granted.
Charlie: For the record notice of posting and mailing was
presented. (attached in record) I close the public hearing.
Members decided not to have election of officers until Chairman,
Remo Lavagnino, returns.
There being no further business, meeting was adjourned. Time was
4 : 55 PM.
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Janice M. arney, City e ty Clerk
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