HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.20140226 ASPEN HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 26, 2014
Chairperson, Jay Maytin, called the meeting to order at 5:00 p.m.
Commissioners in attendance were Willis Pember, John Whipple, Jim
DeFrancia and Patrick Sagal. Absent were, Sallie Golden and Nora Berko.
Staff present:
Deborah Quinn, Assistant City Attorney
Amy Simon, Historic Preservation Officer
Kathy Strickland, Chief Deputy City Clerk
Sara Adams, Planner
Travis Elliot, Intern
MOTION: Jay moved to approve the minutes of February 12, 2014; second
by John. All in favor, motion carried.
MOTION: Patrick said he would like to make a motion to reconsider
because he would like to change his vote on the Rubey Park issue at the last
meeting.
Debbie said at the next meeting after you have taken action anyone who
voted with the majority can move to reconsider. It is only a motion to
reconsider. There is no discussion of the merits of the application. If the
motion passes then we will have to reschedule another public hearing. It is
not fair to the applicant to have any discussion about the merits of the
decision that was made.
Willis second the motion.
Patrick said it was said to me by the applicant that I was the only one who
brought up the historic character of Aspen as part of the analysis for the
design and architecture and after the meeting I looked at the purpose and
intent of historic preservation, section 206.415.010 and found that I had
great questions.
Debbie said based upon Patrick's thoughts he feels he should have voted
differently.
Jay said he doesn't support bringing the applicant back to change one vote
out of a unanimous decision. It wouldn't sway my vote and I am
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comfortable with how the meeting went. It can be noted that Patrick is not
in favor of the Rubey Park project.
Jim echoed Jay's comments and the decision was thoughtfully undertaken
after adequate discussion and I wouldn't change my consideration.
Willis said he wasn't at the meeting so he will not make a comment.
Patrick said if it was reconsidered everyone would be able to change their
vote.
John said seeing that the vote was 4-0 I would not reconsider.
Vote on the motion: Jim, no; Jay, no; John, no. Patrick, yes. Motion failed
3-1.
Willis asked about the color of the Gap referencing a letter in the paper. The
letter writer was critical of the color of the stone. Willis said it looks fine.
Patrick said the color is not the character of Aspen and out of the palate and
it doesn't meet the guidelines. It was not perceived to me as a glass building
with brick trim rather than a brick building with glass.
Jim said he likes the building.
John said he was surprised at first and has already watched it get toned down
by the suit and mag chloride and that finish will not remain. I like the
building and it makes a statement and we shouldn't make decisions until it is
fully done.
Jay said he likes the way the textures talk to the Brand building and the fact
that it is one story is amazing. They did a good job on the building.
Patrick handed out the purpose and intent from the guidelines - Exhibit I
420 E. Main — Minor Development— Public Hearing
John Kelleher said he is representing the owners of the US Bank building.
There is a round conference room on the second floor and we would like to
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cut holes through the exterior wall in order to get some daylight into the
conference room.
Amy said 420 E. Main is in the historic district. There are no other historic
buildings on this particular block face. It was built in 1954 and designed by
Sam Claudill and is shown on the Aspen modern website. It has a lot of his
characteristics with brick as the main material and the curved shape appears
in a lot of his other buildings. The owner would like to put five windows on
the upper floor. The building is not designated and not considered historic at
this point. The street facing window design will replicate the character and
finish of the other openings on the building. Staff recommends approval.
Amy said most of our guidelines deal with a building that has a retail
presence on the ground floor and this building doesn't have that. There is a
drive through and it is a little unique having punched openings on the upper
floor and nothing on the ground floor. Staff recommends approval.
Jim said he feels the windows would be an enhancement to the building.
Lightening up the building is appropriate.
Patrick asked that the windows be the same color and shape.
John Kelleher said that is their intent.
Jay said the building would talk to the street a little more with windows.
MOTION: Jay moved to approve Resolution #6, second by Patrick.
Roll call vote: Jim, yes; Willis, yes; John, yes; Patrick, yes; Jay, yes.
Motion carried 5-0.
Jay mentioned that he forgot to formally open the public hearing. There was
the opportunity for the public to speak. No one was in the audience.
1000 E. Cooper
Debbie Quinn said the affidavit of posting is in order and the applicant can
proceed.
Travis Elliott, Intern: This is a landmark and has an alley unit at the back of
the lot. The alley unit is not historic. The applicant would like to do some
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minor exterior renovation. It is a rental unit without prior approval. It is a
retrofitted garage that has turned into a rental unit. To remain as a rental
unit on this lot it would have to be registered as an ADU and deed restricted
with the Aspen Pitkin County Housing Authority. To become an ADU you
have to meet the review criteria which goes through an administrative
review. In this case we were unable to meet one of those criteria which is
providing a separate and on-site parking space specifically to serve the unit
which has prompted the HPC review. In addition we would like to go
forward with the minor review for the exterior renovations and to bring the
space up to code and make it safer to live in. That would include replacing
one exterior window, an exterior door and window glazing with insulated
glazing and matching all existing finishes and installing a gutter and down
spout along the alley side of the building. Due to the restrictions of the lot
itself staff is recommending approval of the parking variance to let it
become deed restricted and a registered ADU and to allow it to be a rental
unit. All exterior renovations meet HPC design guidelines for non-historic
buildings. We are also recommending that the minor amendment be
approved.
Patrick asked what date the garage was built originally and the date it
became an abandoned unit.
Amy said there is very little building permit history for this structure. This
is not a major development review. In terms of HPC review we are only
talking about windows and door changes. HPC is being asked to address the
housing criteria because it doesn't make sense for them to go to HPC and
P&Z. We don't have a change in use or anything like that. We are just
addressing making the unit legal and safe.
Debbie said there is a separate process for designation of the unit to an ADU
if the parking waiver is given.
Leo Carmichael, represented the owner. This is an abandoned ADU and
they are in the process to get it all cleaned up. It has a kitchen and bath and
it needs life safety issues.
Patrick asked if anything on the outside has been evaluated for code.
Leo said we have a roofing permit and there was water being diverted to the
back of the building and there is a gutter and heat tape to get the water away
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from the building. There is a slab footing. There doesn't seem to be any
damage to the footers.
Chairperson, Jay Maytin opened the public hearing.
Basil Smilious said he lives in the Sunrise Condos. Next to the applicant
property 1006 is an abandoned unit that got a six foot right-of-way in 1991,
a revocable six foot right-of-way. That is in the alley six feet. The
applicant's property is in the alley 2 to 21/2 feet. I would like to see the
alley restored to its 20 foot public right-of-way so all these cars can pull out
properly. Right now the public right-of-way is twelve feet. The applicant
has to do a renovation on the north wall and I would like to see that north
wall moved to the property line and the public right-of-way restored.
Geraldine Haymen said she lives across the alley in the same building.
There is so little space there. I don't see where the parking for this unit
could be unless it is on the grass.
Mrs. Smilious said her concern with the alley situation is the water coming
down into the alley and forming ice buildup.
Sue Lum said she lives to the right and that shed has always rented and there
won't be any more parking problems then there are now and it wouldn't be a
terrible burden.
Chairperson, Jay Maytin closed the public hearing.
Issues:
Parking requirement
Parking waiver request
Travis said it isn't exactly clear as to how much it encroaches into the right-
of-way. This owner would have to get an encroachment license after this
approval.
Amy said there are little buildings like this all over town that were built
before the present code. If a property comes in for a major development we
try to correct the encroachments. All the development would happen within
their property lines. Until the point when someone asks for that substantial
project the city typically tries to allow for an encroachment to continue to
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the extent that it doesn't cause a life safety situation. If you approve this
they will get a building permit and will have to get engineering approval for
an encroachment license. They will not be able to drain their snow and ice
into the alley and will have to contain it on their own property. It does seem
to be encroaching two to three feet into the alley.
Leo said the square footage is about 490 square feet and the minimum is 300
square feet.
Leo said there is an egress window and egress door. We would change the
single glass to an insulated glass.
John said in my opinion the alley encroachments are off the table. I
understand the memo clearly. There are minor window adjustments in
trying to get an abandoned unit up to code.
Amy pointed out that encroachment licenses are revocable at any time.
Patrick asked if the square footage could be eliminated to 350 which would
pull it back and have a space for parking so that they wouldn't need a
variance and would bring them out of the alley so that they wouldn't have a
two foot encroachment.
Jay said he feels if you live in town you don't need a car. I am OK with
waiving the parking because of the improvements to the building and
drainage and with the changes it will improve the livability of the building.
MOTION: Jim moved to approve Resolution #7 granting the requested
parking variance and approving the minor development review. Motion
second by John. Roll call vote: Jim, yes; Willis, yes; John, yes Jay, yes;
Patrick, no. Motion carried 4-1.
507 Gillespie - Substantial Amendment to Major Development— Public
Hearing
Debbie Quinn said the applicant didn't bring their affidavit. Debbie asked
Mr. Rowland if he posted the notice that is required by our code provisions
at least 15 days prior to the hearing.
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John said he posted and the posting is still up and a photograph has been
taken.
Debbie also asked if notice was provided to property owners within 300 feet
of the subject property. John said he did the mailing and will submit the
affidavit within 24 hours to the clerk's office.
Debbie said based on the discussion about the notice the board can proceed.
Sara Adams said this is a vacant lot and there is an historic resource on the
adjacent lot. In 2007 the vacant lot received approval for a single family
home and an ADU. In 2013 John Rowland and Sarah Broughton did a
substantial amendment to the 2007 approval that included changing roof
forms and windows but the concept of a single family home and an ADU
remained in effect. They are back before you for another substantial
amendment to do some further tweaks. They provided comparisons so the
board can see where the changes are. We are supportive of all the changes
and they meet the design guidelines. They are proposing a built in grill in
the setback which would require a setback variance. We are not supportive
of that proposal and we feel the criteria for granting a variance are not met.
The garage doors would have to meet the residential design standards.
John Rowland, owner of the lot. John said we had the chance to rent the
historic resource next door to our vacant lot. Since then we had the
opportunity to understand the lot better.
The primary differences is that we wanted a cleaner more defined
architectural volume that is represented in the house next door. The eaves
are simpler. The side elevations are simpler. The more significant change
is on the gable that was facing the interior of the courtyard. The eave detail
was 2 1/2 feet and we desire it to be around four inches.
Chairperson, Jay Maytin opened the public hearing. There were no public
comments. The public hearing portion of the agenda item was closed.
John Rowland said we have moved the gas grill so we will no longer need a
variance.
Issues:
Residential design standard on garage doors.
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MOTION: Patrick moved to approve Resolution #8 as staff as
recommended. Motion second by Jim. Roll call vote: Jim, yes; Willis, yes;
John, yes; Patrick, yes; Jay, yes. Motion carried 5-0.
Jay will be the project monitor.
Work Session — 28 Smuggler Grove
Debbie Quinn said this is a work session and there can be no approval and
the applicant cannot rely on anything that is said by the commission. This is
informational only for the applicant. The commissioners are doing this as an
impression as to what their thoughts are.
John Rowland acknowledged that this is not recorded and is in no way
binding.
MOTION: Jay moved to adjourn; second by Jim. All in favor, motion
carried.
Meeting adjourned at 6:15
Kathleen J. Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk
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