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REGULAR MEETING HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION JANUARY 27 2021
Chairperson Thompson opened the meeting at 4:30 p.m.
Commissioners in attendance: Kara Thompson, Scott Kendrick, Roger Moyer, Jeff Halferty,
Commissioners not in attendance: Sheri Sanzone
Staff present:
Amy Simon, Planning Director
Sarah Yoon, Historic Preservation Planner
Kate Johnson, Assistant City Attorney
Wes Graham, Deputy City Clerk
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Mr. Moyer moved to approve the minutes; Mr. Kendrick
seconded. All in favor.
PUBLIC COMMENT: None
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS: None
DISCLOSURE OF CONFLICT: Ms. Thompson stated that she is conflicted as well as Ms.
Sanzone on the 925 King Street project.
CERTIFICATE OF NO NEGATIVE EFFECT: Ms. Simon stated that they are busy with
project monitoring. She said that staff and monitor reviewed some revisions for 105 E Hallam.
Ms. Simon said there will be a meeting to discuss the Aspen Institute project with the monitor.
She stated that a certificate of no negative effect was issued to 330 Gillespie Ave.
Ms. Yoon said that the certificate was issued and now waiting for the work order.
CALL UPS: Ms. Yoon stated that 227 E. Bleeker was taken to City Council and not called up.
Ms. Thompson left the meeting
OLD BUSINESS: 925 King Street – Demolition and recommendation on the adjustment of the
boundaries of the Historic Designation and the Establishment of TDRs. Sara Adams of
BendonAdams LLC.
Ms. Yoon stated that this project was continued from a December meeting.
Ms. Adams stated that they are proposing the demolition of the non-historic structures, a
traditional lot spit, adjust the historic boundary, and establish Transfer of Development Rights
(TDRs). She said that the lot is roughly 36000 sq. ft. and other than a few structures that were
built without permits the lot is unchanged. Ms. Adams said that this lot is known as the Ernst
Kappeli property however it has changed hands twice. She stated that there is not a lot of
documentation of this neighborhood, and they reached out to Denver’s archives for clarity. Ms.
Adams said without building permits on most of the structures it was very difficult to research
what was there. Ms. Adams showed the non-historic duplex, shed, and a shack that is slated for
demolition. She showed a picture of the non-historic shed that sits at the bank of the ditch. She
explained that the material of the shed is mixed and slapped together. Ms. Adams stated that
building #5 is being proposed to be retained, she said the structure shows evidence of being
historic. She said that building #6 has no permits nor is it historic. Ms. Adams stated that there is
a record with the county showing Mr. Kappeli’s intent to turn building #5 into a dwelling. She
explained that there was a survey done in 1965 that accompanied the application showcasing
what was on the lot. Ms. Adams showed a proposed preservation plan that identified the three
buildings that will be preserved and the five non-historic structures that will be demolished. Ms.
Adams stated that the lot split will make two parcels, 2A a non-historic parcel that is 21,045 sq.
ft. and 2B a historic parcel that is 15,001 sq. ft. She showed a topographical map that highlighted
REGULAR MEETING HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION JANUARY 27 2021
the ditch, pond, and elevation change between to two proposed lots. She said that the pond is
being proposed for removal. Ms. Adams stated that with the lot split and historic boundary HPC
will have purview of Lot 2B with the miner’s cabin and log cabin however, HPC will not have
purview over Lot 2A. She explained that Lot 2A has no visual connection between the upper and
lower bench, the lots have different street frontages and there is a significant grade change
between the lots. Ms. Adams stated that the lower Lot allowable FAR is 4,473 sq ft. and for
parcel 2B the available FAR is 3,087. She explained they are proposing 2 TDRs to help remove
development pressures from the historic lot.
STAFF COMMENTS: Ms. Yoon stated that the videos that were provided to the board can be
viewed by reaching out to the City of Aspen staff.
Ms. Yoon said that HPC will need to decide on the request for demolition of five structures on
the property and to provide recommendations to City Council regarding the amendment to the
historic designation boundaries that currently encompass the entire lot. She explained that this is
not a request for a new designation or to delist anything rather an amendment to the current
designation. Ms. Yoon added that HPC will be recommending the request of establishing TDRs
of the historic lot. Ms. Yoon identified the five buildings that are slated for demolition and
stating that staff supports the demotion of the non-historic buildings. Ms. Yoon Stated the
proposed amendment to the lot line is in direct relation with the three buildings being preserved
in their current location. She said that staff supports the designation staying with the parcel 2B
where the historic structures will remain. Ms. Yoon explained that HPC will need to discuss the
location of the lot line to ensure adequate buffering space between lots. Ms. Yoon stated that
staff supports the 2 TDR request from the applicant. Ms. Yoon added that there is a condition in
the resolution that all calculations must be verified with the Zoning Department before going to
City Council. She stated that staff recommends the approval of the demolition of the non-historic
buildings, the adjustment to the historic designation boundary, the establishment of 2 TDRs.
Mr. Moyer asked what staff’s opinion about the lifting of the designation on the non-historic
parcel.
Ms. Yoon stated that the staff agrees with the applicant. She explained that it is an interior lot, a
significant grade change, and there is a difficult visual connection.
Mr. Moyer asked if there would be enough square footage to develop after the TDRs taken.
Ms. Yoon said that HPC needs to consider where the lot line falls while taking into account
setbacks.
Mr. Moyer asked if there is enough room.
Ms. Yoon said that staff would like to see a bit more room.
Ms. Simon stated that when the time comes to add on to the historic resource, that it will be
preserved on the King Street face and the addition will not have to come from the side. She
explained that they would like to see an appropriate amount of depth in the lot for future plans.
Mr. Halferty asked if the setbacks will be developed by a zoning exercise or conformed by the
R15.
Ms. Yoon said that setbacks will be conforming to the underline zoning of R15A.
Mr. Halferty asked what the setbacks will be.
Mr. Kendrick said 10’, 10’, 10’ for the side and rear 25’ for the front.
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Ms. Adams stated that there is a ditch that runs through the property. She explained that the City
is requiring an easement on each side of the bank and moving the lot line in the rear might help
and there will be restrictions still.
Mr. Moyer asked if the ditch could be moved or buried.
Ms. Adams stated that the ditch will not be moved nor buried. She said that for maintenance
reasons the City wants it open.
Mr. Kendrick asked about the historic integrity of building #5. He raised the question of the
historic benefit to the community if it is tucked so far into the lot who will see it. Mr. Kendrick
said if building #5 was not going to be preserved it would be a lot easier and cleaner to draw the
lot line straight across.
Ms. Adams stated that they would be open to that plan.
Ms. Yoon said that it has been difficult to identify the historic integrity of the buildings
especially building #5. She explained staff is acting very conservatively to extinguish all avenues
and identify any historic relations.
Mr. Halferty asked what the Lot sizes will be.
Ms. Yoon that the lot split will make two parcels 2A anon-historic parcel that is 21,045 sq. ft.
and 2B a historic parcel that is 15,001 sq. ft.
PUBLIC COMMENTS: None
COMMISSION COMMENTS: Mr. Kendrick stated that he is in favor of the TDRs and the
adjustment of the historic lot line to encompass the upper lot. He said that he is questioning how
the lot lines are drawn and the historic shed.
Mr. Moyer stated that he agrees with the staff. He said he is in favor of demolition and not
opposed to the TDRs. Mr. Moyer asked if it is too soon to be looking at lot lines if HPC does not
have an application for either lot. He stated that he agrees with Mr. Kendrick about making the
lot lines simpler.
Mr. Halferty said he agrees with Mr. Kendrick about the shed. Due to the cellphone connection,
Mr. Halferty’s comments were inaudible.
Mr. Kendrick asked if Ms. Adams could show the other Lot line proposal if building #5 is not
historic.
Ms. Yoon said she wants to understand and summarize what is being asked. That there is a
question about retaining building #5. She explained that the information they could find shows
there might be some historic integrity, and that is why the decision was to keep building #5. Ms.
Yoon stated that they would have to assess building #5 through the demolition criteria and see if
it meets the criteria.
Mr. Moyer asked Ms. Yoon’s opinion about the demolition of building #5.
Ms. Yoon stated that the building was not assessed under the demolition criteria.
Ms. Adams asked if she could show the original Lot split and the 1995 letter that described the
buildings and historic inventory file. Ms. Adams showed the letter that indicates that building #5
was constructed by bits and pieces of found material and that it was placed in the location. She
showed a rendering of the originally proposed Lot split with a more of a traditional line cut.
Mr. Kendrick stated if that letter is accurate, and the building is not original to the lot and an
incomplete building there is no real historic relation.
Mr. Halferty said that it seems to be remnants of stuff without permits.
Mr. Moyer asked if the City had aerial photos from the 1920s.
Ms. Yoon stated that the earliest photos they could capture of this area were from the 60s’.
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Ms. Yoon showed the demolition criteria that was used on the other structures.
Mr. Moyer stated that building #5 meets the criteria for demolition.
Mr. Kendrick said that it meets the criteria.
Mr. Halferty agreed.
Ms. Yoon asked if HPC would like to add building #5 to the list of demolition.
All agreed.
Ms. Adams asked if building #5 is demolished can the Lot line go back to the original proposed
straight shot.
Mr. Moyer said that is what Mr. Kendrick proposed and that he agrees with.
Mr. Halferty raised concern with the lot adjustment and impacts with the historic resource.
Ms. Adams stated that it would not since the ditch will remain and create a natural buffer.
Ms. Simon stated that HPC is making a recommendation to City Council about this Lot line and
will be confirmed with and by City Council.
Ms. Johnson stated that the new information that is being shown needs to be submitted to the
Clerks office for public record.
Ms. Adams showed a Lot area map with the proposed straight across lot line with the historic
resources, a ditch with the proposed easements. She explained that the ditch with easements and
the setbacks already create a buffer between the properties.
Mr. Kendrick asked if duplexes are allowed in R15A.
MS. Adams stated for historic it is, and the lower lot is intended to be a single-family home.
Mr. Moyer said that he feels whatever is built there in the future will not impact the historic lot.
Mr. Kendrick stated that the motion for this project will recommend the TDRs, demolition of the
buildings, and adding building #5 to the demolition list.
Ms. Yoon brought up the proposed resolution to clarify the addition of adding building #5 to the
demolition list and the adjustment to the boundaries to the historic designation lot line.
Mr. Kendrick moved to approve Resolutions #02-2021 as amended; Mr. Moyer seconded.
ROLL CALL: Mr. Kendrick, Yes; Mr. Moyer, Yes; Mr. Halferty, Yes. All in favor. Motion
OTHER BUSINESS: Ms. Simon and Ms. Yoon showed a presentation of a Year In Review.
This presentation was an overview of the different projects that came before HPC. There was 21
meetings total, 4 in-person 17 virtual meetings. There were 25 projects presented and 27
resolutions passed. There were 13 certificates of no negative effects issued. Ms. Simon and Ms.
Yoon gave a brief summary of each approved project that came before HPC. Ms. Yoon showed
the HPC award candidates for 2020 and stated that there will be a future discussion about the
awards. Ms. Simon said that the recruitment process to fill the four vacancies is ongoing and
please pass along anyone's information.
Adjourn: All in favor.