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MINUTES OF MAY 1, 2002
Chairperson, Bill Dinsmoor called the meeting to order at 8:30 a.m. In
attendance were Eric Cohen, Andrew Kole, Jon Busch and John Starr.
Charles Kennedy and Terry Butler were excused.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Jori requested that the Parks Dept. be contacted with regard to the clock
tower and suggest that a thermometer be added.
Andrew introduced Hana Pevny, the new ACRA director.
Andrew and Eric explained the concept of the sponsorship director. Eric
relayed that the CCLC needs to know if the ACRA feels the sponsorship
director idea has :value to them.
Andrew said Steve Barwick, City Manager requested that CCLC meet with
Hana and the board regarding their ideas. Council and the City Manager
feel it is a necessity to collectively work with the ACRA on this matter.
Hana said the marketing money is generated for heads in beds. She said she
like the CCLC's concept but is concerned where the money is coming from.
Hana suggested that CCLC meet with she and her staff.
Jon said the CCLC is looking at different money to fund the position and
not the bed tax. Andrew said council might want to redirect that funding
rather than look for other sources.
Eric said we need to determine what money is available and what workspace
is available through the ACRA for this position.
Hana said the board and council want a plan to track the money return on
the investment going back to the lodges. The agreement with Praco is for
two years and the amount is around $400,000.
Hana said what is happening in the core is critical, and it comes up at every
one of their board meetings~
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John said the newspaper rack outside the Wheeler is not being used by
anyone. It was approved by DEPP. He suggested that we bring back the
newspaper rack issue in June.
Bill suggested that a report be given from Environmental Health in June
regarding the dumpster program.
Bill said there should be a follow-up report from Kinder Morgan regarding
the fire pit.
MALL LEASE
Pacifica was represented by the manager Kevin Mahaffey. There were no
changes proposed for their mall lease. Staff had no concerns.
The board approved the renewal for Pacifica.
Grottos, Tim Lucca, owner said he will not have a sandwich board.
Jon said no Waite stations are allowed on public property.
Bill said in the past the waiter station turned into a grease area when the
summer was over and the antique mall bricks were destroyed. Bill and other
members suggested a site visit be done to see where a waiter station can go.
Waite stations must remain on private property.
Tim said it would be difficult to have outside dining without some place to
put dishes.
John said according to the drawing the entire staircase is encroaching.
Jannette Whitcomb, Environmental Health officer stated that she witnessed
Grottos serving soup on the mall in the winter and food cannot be served on
the mall. Last summer they served food outside on the mall and stopped it,
and this winter they had soup on the mall.
Jannette said there was no hand washing facility outside.
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Bill said you cannot serve on the mall in the winter or any time other than
the times indicated in the mall lease.
John Start said he is going to keep an eye out on the area between the mall
and tree to make sure waiters are not cleaning the tables from outside the
fencing or serving from the outside of the fence.
Jon reminded Tim that umbrellas are not allowed over the fence which has
occurred in the past.
Eric said there should be no Waite station from the east side of the fence.
Sarah Oates, Zoning officer said there can be no sandwich board signs and
the menu sign cannot exceed four square feet. There also cannot be signage
in the public right-of-way which is the mall.
Bill recommended that Tim meet with Sarah on the signage problem.
Ed Van Walraven, fire marshal said the exit needs to be clear and open. The
rear exit going into the alley is a concern. Ed said that rear exit should be
addressed in the next two weeks.
John said this is the first time the Hyman Street mall has not had outdoor
dining and we are trying to keep alfresco dining in Aspen but the Grotto
space is a difficult one.
The board approved the mall lease for the Grottos.
MUSIC EVENTS -BRAD CARNER
Brad said they have a $2,000 budget for music this year. They would like to
have music in conjunction with the Saturday market and use the courtyard
and plaza.
Bill said with the Saturday Market they literally pass the hat for music and
everyone wants a music component.
Jon said there are some concerns with the volume of the bands in
conjunction with the dogs in the park. Jon also said that it would be great if
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the market and Gracy's worked together so the music does not conflict on
the same days.
Jannette said Gracy's is not a part of the approval for the farmers market.
The farmers market is exempt from the ordinance, which only allows four
noise variances a year.
Some board members like the idea music down in Gracy's plaza and others
didn't.
Eric relayed that CCLC could include Gracy's in our discussion with
council or Brad could do his own three or four day permit request. There
might be zoning problems that would need addressed. Brad would come to
the ASMG/CCLC with identified dates so that the music dates do not
conflict one another.
Bill asked what time of day was good for music in the park? Brad felt that
the music should be brought in around NOON.
Andrew said he would rather know that the music would be in the same
locations every week.
Ed VanWalraven said a fire truck has to get down the street and there has to
be room between the vendors for the water hoses in case of need. Access to
the buildings is a must.
Jon said he had several thoughts. He wouldn't want to have a band so
overpowering every weekend. Jon suggested that Brad work with the
adjoining property owner above the plaza as it has potential. Brad said
there is probably about six feet from the rail to the window that could be
used.
Bill said that area would be better for Gracy's. Music down in the plaza is
not conducive. The AFMG would not look at music down in the plaza as an
enhancement for the market.
Brad said he would like to see the music from the railing to the windows
and he will talk to the landlords. You could then watch the performer.
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John said he would like to see Brad take on the music students and work
with them to come and perform at the market.
John said we could include the music as part of our presentation to City
Council.
Brad said he could come up with a sixteen-week list of the types of music
that he would suggest for those slots and have a presentation to CCLC.
Bill said maybe we should stick with acoustic music because you don't
need a permit.
Brad said you want enough sound to bring people down to this block.
The board decided that they should get their approval for the expansion first
and then work on the entertainment at another meeting.
Brad said his goal is to enhance the farmers market.
Bill said he talked to Jack DiOrio and he has a list of vendors that might
want to be in the farmer's market expansion.
Kathy Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk relayed that at the last council
meeting staff was directed to find a solution for the restrooms. Staff
recommends that CCLC purchase the port-a-pottie and free standing hot
water stand for the duration o£the Saturday market.
MOTION: Bill moved to approve the funding for the port-a-pottie and sink;
second by Eric. Motion carried 4-1.
MOTION: Bill moved to adjourn; second by Eric. All in favor, motion
carried.
Meeting adjourned at 11:00 a.m.
Kathleen J. Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk
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