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SPECIAL MEETING ASPEN CITY COUNCIL DECEMBER 08, 2021
At 7:00 p.m. Mayor Torre called the regular meeting to order with Councilors Doyle, Hauenstein,
Richards, and Mesirow in attendance.
Mayor Torre said the Sister Cities room is also available for extra space. He said they will be allowing
public comment this evening and will be limiting it to two minutes. This is a full room and there are
around 75 people online as well. We are not looking for any applause after comments are made and we
are asking for your patience. This is not a ban on short-term rentals. This council is interested in a pause,
and we are working in your best interest.
ORDINANCE #27, SERIES OF 2021 – An Ordinance Imposing a Temporary Moratorium on the
Acceptance of Any New Land Use Application Seeking a Development Order or Notice of Approval,
and on the Acceptance of Certain Building Permit applications for All Residential Uses in All Zone
Districts within the City; and on the Issuance of New Vacation Rental Permits; and Declaring an
Emergency – Phillip Supino, Community Development Director
Mr. Supino passed around a revised copy of the ordinance and explained the changes that were made.
He said the effect of the ordinance is to pause significant residential construction for six months, exempt
commercial, lodge, 100% AH, and minor residential work, and to pause 2022 STR permit issuance. Staff
recommends extending 2021 permits to September 30th, 2022, and allow transfers of permits between
owners, not between properties. Mr. Supino said there were 182 new STR applicants today and as of 4
pm, there are 81 awaiting response. He explained the public and stakeholder outreach plan and forum
in early January.
Mayor Torre brought up the September 30th date and suggested they make this time period shorter. City
Manager, Sara Ott, said the rationale is that they are anticipating the work will be done prior to that
date in quarters one and two. We didn’t want to stop the permits in the middle of a high season. There
will be some overlap of permits under the old regulations and permits under the new regulations; it’s a
trade-off.
CITIZEN COMMENTS:
Bill Guth – Mr. Guth said he lives on 8th street. He thanked council for their work and service. He said
over 600 people have signed a petition opposing their actions tonight. Most of us in this room are
opposed. There are better ways to accomplish your goals. You need to focus on the long-term impacts
and goals, and he doesn’t think things can be accomplished in 30 or 60 days. He is a champion of
affordable housing. You don’t understand the impacts that this will have on many people.
Mayor Torre asked Mr. Guth if he rents any short-term rentals and he said no.
Chris Burley – Mr. Burley said he is a former Aspen resident and now lives in Carbondale due to a lack of
housing. He is in the real estate business. The effect that this motion will put on our household would be
devastating. His main client in Aspen is someone who works in residential development. This is not going
to improve the affordable housing issue here. Summit county has built thousands of units and you guys
have built a few hundred. Let’s see action.
Kim Raymond – Ms. Raymond is a local architect and has been in town for 40 years. This will have a huge
impact on the work force. It will happen when permits dry up, and there be a lot of families who have
already suffered from COVID and being shut down. She looked up in the charter the emergency
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ordinance and referenced section 4.11. She asked what the emergency is. Rushing something like this
through, makes all of us feel really uneasy.
Dwayne Romero – Mr. Romero is a citizen of Aspen here with his wife and family. He said he appreciates
council’s service. He said this action reminds him of the 2007 emergency preservation ordinance and it
was a couple years before we got out of that. There is a bit of faith and confidence in our council to
understanding what you are hearing. He feels like the decision has already made though. Please try to
listen and refine and sharpen the instrument.
Ed Foran – Mr. Foran has been a resident since 1993. He has deep concerns about the devastating effect
this could have on this community. Create an advisory committee so you have stakeholders involved
who are champions of affordable housing. There are concerns of how this could impact the mental
health of this community, which is fragile as it is. This could be very devastating.
Bill Stirling – Mr. Stirling said he asked Phillip if vacant lots are included in this. Mr. Supino said if a
development order was needed for the vacant lot, then it would be included in the moratorium. Mr.
Stirling said when he served the city in the 80’s, the council voted in a couple of moratoriums, and one
put a moratorium on demolition of historic structures and that was an example for him of an
emergency. Out of that, grew a lot of things for historic preservation. He feels this is an abuse of the
process to use an emergency ordinance and locks the public out. He asked if this is really an emergency.
Steven May – Mr. May is an architect in Glenwood but has worked on many affordable housing projects
in Aspen. There have been costs and financial implications that haven’t been thought through. He said
potentially tomorrow he would lose 70 % of his projects. He explained the amount of time it takes to
work on one project and the time it takes for permitting. There are more impacts than what you are
considering.
Alexandra George – Ms. George said she was here last night. Her concerns reflect what everyone else
says. Many of us have applied for permits today generally out of fear in what can happen in 24 hours’
notice. Many of us are concerned. This will skew the numbers. She has yet to hear anyone that is in
favor of this moratorium.
Joshua Landis – Mr. Landis said he is a 30 year Aspen local, and an APCHA graduate and seems like there
are only locals here in the room. We’re the ones showing up and we are your people. We all recognize
there is a problem and want to fix it but the effects of this are multi-faceted. This process is flawed. He is
most upset with Skippy because he is in the STR business. It’s a perceived issue that should make you
guys want to table this. We all want to collaborate to fix this.
Bob Bowden – Mr. Bowden has seen a number of moratoriums and has been here for 40 years. The
moratorium is the most sacred authority we give you for when something is truly endangered. The
historic emergency isn’t the same as this. We work really hard and fast to make the best decisions we
can. This is hundreds of people you are going to affect. If you vote yes, I would ask that you suspend
your salaries from the city until the moratorium is lifted.
Ryan Walterscheid – Mr. Walterscheid is a local architect and said he emailed council last night, but also
wanted to come speak in person. He can understand the emergent nature of getting people to apply
and the city being very short staffed. He has lived here long enough to witness three moratoriums. To
Steven’s point, it takes a long time to get through this process. You have a number of brokers who sold
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property early summer and we have been working with them for months now and a lot of money has
been spent. We are under a tremendous amount of pressure. So many community members are
engaged with these residential properties. I’ve seen this happen with commercial development, but
never residential. Please alter the wording of what you have proposed.
Ashley Chod – Ms. Chod thanked council for their service. If you take a pause, you create a false market.
There is a rush now and when you reopen it up, there will be another rush. If you are confident in what
you are passing, you wouldn’t have done it within 24 hours. Thank you so much for giving us public
comment, but you advertised for no public comment. She now lives in Basalt because she can’t afford to
live here either. If you pass this, you’ll lose her trust and the others in the room. She’s not against a fair
playing field or regulation, but please take the time to make these huge decisions with more time.
Grant Purcell – Mr. Purcell said he’s fortunate enough to live in a 400,000 trailer with APCHA. He’s heard
a lot of experts since he’s been here, and they know what they are talking about. They are the people
you need to engage and involve, but that is not what happened. This is where the middle class comes
from. It’s disappointing.
Maleah Nobrega – She is the owner of 700 S. Garmisch, which she bought a year ago. She has been
tirelessly going through this process. It’s been brutal but have still been excited. They have been through
this process for the past year. We have done the mitigation and just have not submitted the permit. The
whole world is contending with low staff. We thought we were safe and would be able to build. It’s a big
deal.
Alex Glenn – Mr. Glenn said he fully supports this decision. He knows it’s difficult but thinks it’s the right
direction.
Judd Clarence – Mr. Clarence represents clients who have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars and
were ready to submit but are now not able to. He’s disturbed by this process council has taken and
there is no emergency. He echoes what people have already said. You people are our representatives.
We say no, so why are you moving forward?
Chris Bendon – Mr. Bendon said he is feeling the impact and spent a lot of time on the phone today with
clients. The impact to these folks is severe and it’s a real impact. He asked some questions based on
what he does how this is all going to work.
Mr. True said we shouldn’t try to evaluate individual scenarios at this time without knowing all of the
facts. It’s difficult to try to have that kind of dialogue right now.
Mr. Bendon would like to have this level of clarity as soon as possible. There are a lot of people in
complete freak out mode in the community right now.
Mr. Supino said that Mr. Bendon knows how to get in touch with staff with any questions.
Mr. Bendon said he sent an email about three hours ago.
Michael Eddinger – Mr. Eddinger thanked council for the opportunity to speak. He’s heard a lot about
the emergent nature of this issue. He’s assuming there is no time or funds to study this. If we have
resources already in place that could be applied to bring people on concurrently to study this, it would
make much more sense.
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Lex Tarumianz – Mr. Tarumianz thanked council for being here. The comments he has heard have been
spot on. He’s thinking back to 2012 said it didn’t make the downtown core any more vibrant. He’s asking
council to really tap the breaks here. We need to look at the land use code in its entirety. It’s highly
complicated. Let’s get the community involved. He doesn’t see the value in an emergency moratorium
such as this.
Jennifer Fulton – Ms. Fulton said she’s raising two daughters and lives in employee housing. She doesn’t
think taking a gigantic segment of our economy is going to help the big picture. Let’s think about other
alternatives. She does a lot of rentals in town, and it provides a lot of jobs. Think of all the trades
involved in building a house. Please consider other ideas without taking away jobs.
Kathy Bender – Ms. Bender said she is an owner at Fasching House, and she plans on renting during the
summer. She never would have bought her property if she knew she couldn’t do rentals. How does the
city benefit if she can’t rent and her place sits empty for 9 months of the year? it’s unfair to punish the
people who have played by the rules all along.
Emily Kelly – Ms. Kelly says she’s owned a property for 24 years and our ability to rent their place is an
affordable way for people to enjoy Aspen.
Mayor Torre reiterated that it is not their intention to ban short term rentals from Aspen.
Laura Moon – Ms. Moon echoed what Kim Raymond and Joshua Landis said. Workers are hard to find
ever since COVID hit. She suggests not throwing the baby out with the bath water and said this is going
to put a short-term pinch on people locally. This is not an emergency.
John Ward – Mr. Ward said he just finished the APCHA meeting with Skippy and Rachel. The way to
solve this is not through a moratorium. You will exacerbate the employment crunch we have today.
Rethink this.
Elizabeth Selzer – Ms. Selzer said she was here last night and that she is an accounting professional in
the vacation rental industry. She wants to reiterate what she said last night, and she said council’s
community has spoken to them tonight. It’s your constituency who is against this.
An unidentified female said that she supports the moratorium and thanked council for making the
difficult decision.
Cindy Houben – Ms. Houben thanked council for bringing this forward and considering the moratorium.
Anytime a moratorium has been in place, it has benefitted the community. This will benefit the whole
community in the long run.
Mike Maple – Mr. Maple said he’s incredibly disappointed in the city with this abuse of power. There are
supposed to be facts to support this decision. He encourages members of the community who have the
resources, to challenge this decision. You aren’t going to find the resources to get this done in six
months.
Larissa Louka – Ms. Louka said she loves Aspen and were planning on becoming owners of a STR. We
have a closing in a couple of days. She urges city council to make the right decision. This feels like
communism.
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Caet May – Ms. May asked council if their opinion matters to them. She said she received an email from
the city stating that this moratorium is already in place.
Mayor Torre asked her to send the email over to him.
An unidentified male thanked council for bringing this up and considering the long-term impacts and
how STR’s have affecting the working class in this community.
Sarah Broughton – Ms. Broughton said Bob Bowden said something that gleaned with her. The world
doesn’t stop when we are dealing with big issues. She has seen time and time again, well-intentioned
policies that go wrong. She understands the issues at hand. Let’s roll up our sleeves and collectively see
what we can do, but it’s not by stopping.
Kristi Gilliam – Ms. Gilliam said she’s not in agreement with this at all. She’s purchased a place in 2001.
She doesn’t understand why we’re doing this.
Heather Huitt – Ms. Huitt said her parents bought her condo in 1988. We used to not rent at all, but she
would like the option of renting it.
Katy Frisch – Ms. Frisch said thank you to council for sticking through this. She’s been listening and a
couple things struck her. She said we haven’t heard from council as to why each of you believe this
moratorium solves a problem and what problem it solves. She thinks this is a flawed process. She
doesn’t see the public part of this.
Monica Columbo – Ms. Columbo bought a place in 2011. When you place a moratorium on permits, it
means you are thinking about banning STR’s. This has created a lot of confusion in the market.
Jason Fishburn – Mr. Fishburn said he’s reiterating a lot of what was said tonight. At the end of the day,
he feels it’s a very rushed process. A lot of people depend on this income.
Mr. True added a letter from Ken Citron of Klein Cote Edwards Citron LLC as an objection to the
ordinance.
Chris Bryan – Mr. Bryan is an attorney for Garfield & Hecht. The city is swinging a sledgehammer instead
of a scalpel. This is not an emergency and you have caught everyone by surprise. He spoke to over a
dozen people who are concerned today, and many are contemplating legal actions. Don’t call this an
emergency when it is not. This will be lucrative for lawyers.
COUNCIL COMMENTS:
Councilor Doyle said he has heard the words abrupt and sudden quite a bit tonight. Michael Miracle
showed him an article from a 2017 issue of Outside Magazine, titled “Did Air B&B kill the mountain
town?” The STR’s are affecting mountain towns across the west and the nation. He doesn’t see this as a
sudden or abrupt occurrence. We’ve got some serious problems here in our town and our community
has spoken to us about the over development issues here as well. Those people have spoken to us, and
we are answering to other community members as well. Well deliberated over this for months to come
to this conclusion.
Councilor Richards said when we are looking at 750 million of current permit valuation in the queue,
that is 750 million dollars’ worth of construction that is titled residential but will end up being
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unmitigated lodging. None of these residences were approved to be mini hotels which they are now
being used for. A line has to be drawn somewhere and you have to stop the bleeding somewhere. The
number of letters and emails she’s received are from people buying with commercial interest, not a
residential interest. There are real impacts whether folks think there are or not. This past summer,
we’ve heard about over tourism and people are stressed and not enjoying their town anymore. She
wants to settle one big myth – this won’t create a lot of affordable housing. This is about the continued
community impacts for her. This is the last question as to whether Aspen is a community or a
commodity. We’re hearing a lot of fear from people who already have a unit or a condo in our lodging
zone and those places are not at risk. It’s appropriate for us to take some action. When the purchases of
residential properties are not for residential purposes, she as a leader, has to take a look at it. There is
no chapter on STR’s in the community plan. We need to think about what kind of a community we are
going to be in the future. Thank you for understanding, it’s a tough issue for all of us.
Councilor Mesirow thanked everyone for coming. Our listening to or contemplation of this issue, didn’t
start tonight. It’s been a decade plus of listening to our community. The underlying need for this
moment has been anything but sudden. He has talked to so many of you about this and the
hemorrhaging on our community. In the past two years, the dam broke. Our opportunity here is to stand
in and do something about that. He loved that Rachel said community or commodity. It’s not a question.
He said in the 60’s, Sheldon and Edwards made some tough decisions that drew angry crowds, but we
look back now at a model they created that worked. That model is now broken. It’s not your fault. It
doesn’t mean that all STR’s and development are bad, but the impacts of the residential sector and
development are fighting our community needs. He became convinced that we need the space and
container to build a new system that works for everyone. This space might come with some pain, but
you are all invited to it. He will be supporting this.
Councilor Hauenstein thanked everyone for coming tonight. It’s been painful listening to people talk. We
have to put all of this in balance. His driving document is the community plan and values in the
community plan are still very much a part of the community and it calls for a balance. We are out of
balance. Commercial use used to be the driving force of this town and now it’s residential. All of our
lodges, legacy lodges, all of them are STR’s. What has happened with our community is that the
neighborhoods have become commercial cores. There has been a conflation of work force housing and
we’ve driven a lot of employees out of our community. The pressures on our community are not unique
to Aspen. We’re asking for a pause to do a study to find out what kinds of regulations are appropriate to
contain our community. The fabric of my community is not for sale. He’s been studying his short-term
rental effects for years. We are asking to continue the status quo. We aren’t telling you as of tomorrow,
you can’t rent your properties. It will take time. We will be reaching out for public engagement. It is an
emergency. We are losing the quality of our town. There’s no segue way from subsidized to free market
housing here in Aspen. Unmitigated consumerism takes advantage of the working class. He is going to
support this because he thinks it is an emergency.
Mayor Torre said he agrees with a lot of what was said. When it comes to short term rentals, we allowed
the ability for these permits to go forward and today we took in over 180 new permits. You’re right, If
there are people out there in the world wondering if they should buy property here in Aspen because
they can turn around and short term rent it, and they are turned off from that, he’s going to have to live
with that. The people that actually live here is what is important to me. Regardless of what you’ve read
or heard, this council doesn’t have the intention of stopping the STR’s that we already have here in
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Aspen. The actual scope of what we are trying to impact, is very narrow. We are not looking to eliminate
this completely; we are looking to modify and amend it. In the city of Aspen, 30% of our free-market
housing is lived in and dropping. The reason we are taking a pause on accepting residential applications,
is so we can amend the code to better align it with the AACP. Your permitting process may not be
slowed, because as you know, it takes months to get a permit through a review process right now. My
heart goes out to the people speaking about their livelihood going away. We are going to get out of this,
on both fronts, as quickly as possible. These won’t be sweeping changes and it will strengthen our
community going forward. He said he appreciates everyone coming out tonight. Our intention is to get
the best for our community. It comes with pain for all of us. He wants to have a cooperative relationship
moving forward. Thank you all so much. We will all move forward together.
Councilor Mesirow motioned to approve with language as amended; Councilor Richards seconded.
Councilor Hauenstein offered an amendment to extend the date one week for the short-term rental
applications.
Council did not agree to extend the date.
Roll call vote: Doyle, yes; Hauenstein, yes; Mesirow, yes; Richards, yes; Torre, yes. 5-0, motion carried.
Councilor Richards motioned to adjourn; Council Mesirow seconded. Roll call vote: Doyle, yes;
Hauenstein, yes; Mesirow, yes; Richards, yes; Torre, yes. 5-0, motion carried.
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City Clerk, Nicole Henning