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City of Aspen, Open Space and Trails Board Meeting
Held on January 19, 2023
5:00pm at Pearl Pass Room, Aspen City Hall
City OST Board Members Present: Julie Hardman, Ted Mahon, Howie Mallory, Adam McCurdy,
Ann Mullins, Dan Perl
City Staff Members Present: John Spiess, Michael Tunte, Nick Oliver
Adoption of the Agenda: Dan made a motion to approve the agenda; Ann seconded and the
vote was unanimous.
Public Comments, for topics not on the agenda: None.
Approval of the Minutes: Adam commented that he thinks the electric utility mentioned in the
Nordic snowmaking discussion should be noted as Holy Cross and not City of Aspen Electric
Utility. John will check this.
Ann made a motion to approve the minutes; Dan seconded and the vote was unanimous.
Staff Comments:
John: Reporting on Nordic trail use counts: there was a problem with downloading current
count data. John offered to provide a summary of Nordic counts from previous years in lieu of
this year’s data, in response to the Board’s request for such data related to the snowmaking
topic. The Board was agreeable to this.
New Business:
Farm Collaborative (FC) Annual Report Recap:
Eden of the Farm Collaborative (FC) provided a summary of the organization’s annual report,
noting that it was a strong year. The organization’s mission is to connect children and the
community to nature through farming and food. Eden presented slides of highlights and a recap
of the organization’s growth and progress: there are 15 Board members, 17 staff (including
seasonal labor), 157 Two Forks Club members (this program made four loans for of $76,000 for
2023; a second round of loans will be made in spring), and 14 partner organizations. Eden
showed slides depicting the growth of the organization and its programs.
Eden provided a recap of Agricultural Activities: The Farm Park is open to visitors for free 365
days/year to learn, visit, share, and explore; annual visitation is estimated at 7,500. FC
harvested a total of 11,000 lbs of produce; 1,865 lbs went to regional food pantries and 3,000
lbs went to Seniors Matter Shares. Membership in the Two Forks club increased to 157
members allowing them to make more loans. Two tiny homes were purchased and deployed to
house farm workers during the growing season. FC partnered with University of Colorado
Capstone students who, through their research, created a white paper, “Building a Farmer
Support Ecosystem,“ a deployment plan, and a prototype website. The goal of this program is
to support farmers of diverse backgrounds. FC raised over 350 chickens and 60 lambs, as well as
goats, bunnies, and alpacas. 18,000 eggs were produced.
Eden recapped Education and Recreation: The Earth Keepers program sold out within 48 hours
and was at full capacity for the second year in a row. FC conducted 100 days of child-attended
programming and 93 days of multiple programs running simultaneously at the Farm Park. 15%
of participants were on scholarships; this year’s goal is 20%. Earth Keepers Jr. had 46
participants. Participants in the Eco-Apprenticeship Program for ages 12-16 doubled: 26
participants learned the basics of growing their own food, raising animals, harvesting wild food,
preserving food, making handcrafted products, cooking, and learning earth stewardship. The
Personal Farm Experience program had 20 participants. 37 school groups from 11 schools and
pre-schools between Aspen and Glenwood Springs visited the FarmPark, totaling 734 kids ages
1 through 18. FC hosted 4 interns and 3 farmer incubees. Adult programs for farmers,
agronomists, and nature enthusiasts hosted 54 participants in a new 10-week series. Farm-to-
Fridge, the annual free community meal, served 1,500 people. FC published 9 issues of Edible
Aspen.
Dan asked about the other programs involved with Edible Aspen; Eden explained that they
include Two Forks Club, Earth Keepers, and FC.
Eden next addressed capital improvements, listing six 2022 and to-date line items totaling
$1,149,713 at the five year point. The Etkin Family Learning Greenhouse was built in 2021 and
was used for summer programming and as a greenhouse. FC received final approvals by Pitkin
County commissioners for the new facility. An approved building permit is expected around
March 2023 and they plan to break ground shortly after. FC received $966,000 through the
Congressional Omnibus budget package for the all-electric community kitchen portion of the
new FC learning campus building. This, combined with raised funding, provides $4.5 million for
the building. Utilities are not budgeted; this is a challenge FC would like to discuss today.
Ann asked for clarification of the Congressional Omnibus. Eden explained that this is the federal
budget package for the year; Senator Hickenlooper supported the FC toward this funding.
Needed utility funding includes costs for septic, fire suppression, and water purification.
Julie asked about the buildings that are in need of repair; Eden explained that those buildings
are outside of the FC’s lease area. John added that these are original structures awaiting repair.
Eden introduced three Board members who were present: Jeff Davlyn Board President, Betsy,
and Dennis Young. Dan asked for more information on the FC’s revenue stream. Eden explained
that 25-23% is earned income, 70% is contributed income (10% grants, 90% from individuals).
Jeff shared that he has been involved with the FC for 10 years and expressed gratitude for
Parks’ support. Betsy, shared about her role and FC’s leadership opportunities, partnerships,
and grants. Dennis shared about his entrepreneurial consultant role.
Eden explained the FC’s two asks of the Open Space program. The first is for help with site
infrastructure components which will benefit all future operations at Cozy Point Ranch. He
mentioned that the FC has a limited time to use their Omnibus funding because it is part of the
2023 budget. The second ask is regarding the lease and the organization’s sustainability.
FC Infrastructure Needs and Utility Improvements
Adam asked Eden to focus first on infrastructure needs. Eden explained the need for a fire
suppression system likely involving a large tank located somewhere high on the property.
Water purification to treat the site’s high sulfur water is another need. Both would benefit all
operations on the ranch. The greatest infrastructure need is a septic system. Because of the
nature of the lease boundaries, the only potential location for septic is across Brush Creek if FC
finances the system; this scenario would be very expensive. If it is possible to consider potential
septic sites site-wide, then there are other options. This situation is a limiting factor for FC’s
ability to submit for a building permit.
Julie asked for clarification of the location and distance rationale for the septic system. Eden
explained the combination of limiting factors in terms of available space and proximity to the
building. Adam asked John to update the Board on items that would benefit the whole site.
John explained that fire suppression is a site-wide need at Cozy Point Ranch. There is a
currently a fire suppression exemption based on the ages of the structures, but if any buildings
beyond the FC’s proposed building are changed, those buildings would need to be brought up
to current code with a fire suppression system. Staff investigation into this is underway; options
include the tank scenario which would satisfy FC’s needs. Another potential option involves
connecting to the Brush Creek Metro District’s fire hydrant system; this has not been discussed
with the district. Regarding water delivery, Parks is working with an organization on well water
treatment which has proven to be very difficult. One potential solution is to re-drill Well #2 in
hopes of reaching better water quality. The two existing wells are about 500 yards apart; Well #
1 delivers good quality water (supplies ranch manager’s cabin, residents, barn, and hose bibs
for horses); Well # 2 delivers sulfur-influenced water. Limitations on water volume from these
wells relates to water rights. This summer Nick will lead an investigation into re-drilling Well #
2. On the septic topic, John explained offsets needed between locations of various
infrastructure. Discharge to Brush Creek is not possible due to low and inconsistent stream
flows.
Adam commented that the fire suppression item presents an opportunity to address this from a
site-wide standpoint. Adam asked whether new housing would be served by Well #1; John said
it would be. Adam asked about septic as it relates to FC as well as the barn and residences. John
explained that the current re-grading project includes consolidating the existing septic system
that services the barn and residences. This system cannot accommodate the FC’s proposed
needs; further, if Parks expands housing, more septic capacity will be needed. Mike added that
the existing systems are grandfathered in and are sited within setbacks; any changes to these
systems will involve abandoning them and rebuilding to move them out of setbacks and meet
current code. Very few areas can accommodate a leachfield.
Ann asked about whether staff are considering trying to transfer water rights from Well #2 to
Well #1. John said that has been considered. In addition, staff have identified a company that
can re-drill Well #2; if non-sulfur water is found, then rights from Well #2 could be transferred
to the new well. Ann asked for clarification of what staff need from the Board with regard to
theses topics. Eden replied that he has figures for what would be needed specifically for the FC
building, but his ask is site-wide in light of future general needs regarding septic, water, and fire
suppression. Eden expressed that if Parks can pursue these infrastructure solutions now rather
than later, that will enable FC to start spending its grant funding and proceeding with
construction of its learning center within fiscal year 2023..
Dan asked if there are concerns about the site. John said that the complexities and costs Eden
described are accurate. Eden added that there is a lot of maintenance associated with the
required pre-treatment facilities and that this could involve liability. Patty mentioned the
inconvenience of the leachfield located behind the barn because no other activities can take
place there. Eden mentioned alternative options that could be considered; he would like such
solutions to be investigated. Ted asked for Eden’s timeline requirements for the Omnibus
funding. Eden explained that this funding is for budget year 2023 and that a full check will be
issued. FC must begin to spend the funds during 2023; if they are not exhausted in 2023 there is
a potential process for using the remainder in subsequent years, but it is not guaranteed.
Adam expressed that more information on costs for these items and potential effects on other
Parks priorities is needed before the Board is able to make a recommendation. John suggested,
for example, that the Board’s recommendation could be to direct staff to prioritize
infrastructure-related improvements that would benefit the FC and Cozy Point Ranch. Adam
expressed needing more information before being ready to make that type of
recommendation.
Howie asked if this would require supplemental funds. John said it wouldn’t necessarily; this is a
planning exercise rather than an implementation exercise for this year. Howie asked for
clarification as to whether the kitchen funding must be fully spent this year; Eden explained
that it would be best to do so, but that there is potential to carry the funds over beyond the
fiscal year. Howie suggested that a strong backup plan would be important. Adam clarified that
the permit is needed before installation can begin. Eden mentioned that the time crunch is on
the planning side of things; there are creative ways to spend the money during the relevant
time window, but approvals are needed first. Howie asked if the Board would need to be
comfortable with a request to Pitkin County. Adam clarified that the request would be within
the bounds of the lease and that the Board is already comfortable with that.
John explained that as part of the FC’s building permit, Eden identified the leachfield location
and its costs, identified Well #2 as the water source and researched purification, and obtained a
drawing and costs for a fire suppression system. John suggested that FC give this information to
the Board as the proposed system, including the contribution amount FC is asking for from the
City. He cited the electrical transformer that the Board voted to help fund as a past example.
Adam asked what amount the City would be spending in the future on such infrastructure, and
if it could be spent this year instead in coordination with FC. Julie asked Eden why the FC is not
presenting the alternative solutions he mentioned; Eden explained that those alternatives are
only suitable on a larger, site-wide scale at Cozy Point. John said that staff have not had time to
investigate alternatives. John and Mike explained that Parks is moving forward with actions to
address the actively failing septic systems on site under present conditions. It is not possible to
pause now in order to explore alternatives, but this does not preclude any future alternative
approaches.
Dan commented that he sees an opportunity to consider a public-private partnership in terms
of funding this. Eden said that he will come back to the Board with specific numbers, and
mentioned that it is in the ballpark of $1.5 million. Adam also reiterated his request for what
the City would be spending in the near future on these infrastructure items.
FC Lease renegotiation
Howie asked if this topic warrants a Board site visit. Julie asked Eden to point out the lease area
on the map; Eden identified the lease area as well as the locations of the leachfield, the new
building, etc. Adam said a spring site visit would be helpful for the lease topic. Eden said that FC
has invested $2.5 million to date, and they are ready to invest $3.5 million plus the $966,000 for
the kitchen, for a total of $5.5 million by the end of 2023 if all goes well. FC is currently on a 10-
year lease and they are 5 years in. FC would like to ask Parks for a reset and extension. John
clarified that the negotiation would happen between City Council and the FC; in its advisory
role, this Board may provide a recommendation. Eden expressed that FC would like the Board’s
support as they go to Council. Ann asked for clarification of the renewal options; Eden said the
total renewal time would be 19 years and 11 months if granted both renewal options. John
added that the first renewal would be automatic and the second renewal would need to be
mutual. John added that Patty is also under a 10-year lease with different terms.
Commercial Dog Walking:
John presented in response to a question raised by Ann during a special event permitting
discussion last November. This topic also came up during trail code revision discussions. Staff is
seeking Board direction on the inclusion of commercial dog walking within special use permits.
John explained reasons why this topic is being discussed: special use permits and parks use
policy are going before council, negative interactions occur with other trail users, and there is
increased concern about wildlife impacts. Staff researched dog-walking services in Aspen,
finding 5 websites and 12 advertised dog-walking service providers. John shared current policy,
an ordinance dated 1976, stating the requirement for dog owners to dispose of dog waste,
prevent wildlife harassment by their dogs, and the leash law. John shared etiquette guidelines
developed by Brian as a hand-out for dog owners in Aspen, including keeping dogs on leash as
owners travel about town and locations for watchful dog play, as well as places where dogs are
prohibited. Pitkin County’s current policy states that a person may walk no more than three
dogs at a time.
John described possible paths forward: 1- limit number of dogs per person (as the County
does), 2- special use permit for commercial dog walking, 3- status quo (leash and waste laws
enforced). Adam asked where complaints are coming from. John mentioned one interaction on
Ajax Trail with 8 off-leash dogs and police involvement; other instances have involved dogs in
open spaces where they are not permitted; and other situations where dogs have impacted
other trail users. He added that those encompass the general nature of the complaints, but that
the volume of complaints is fairly low. Howie asked about dogs on Maroon Creek Road and the
Pass; this is under Forest Service jurisdiction. Howie asked if staff have had conversations with
dog-walking business owners to learn more about how they operate; John said no. Howie
suggested it would be good to be consistent with the County regarding number of dogs per
person. He asked for clarification of the special use permit; John said that this would apply only
to commercial dog-walkers and not the general public. Julie suggested to focus on what is
enforceable and definable, noting that the leash law is difficult to enforce. She commented that
dog numbers should be limited, adding that she sees commercial dog-walkers more outside of
the City rather than within the City, such as at Difficult Campground area. John commented that
Marolt sees a lot of this type of use. Julie asked if there could be consensus among agencies on
this topic. Ann commented that these are businesses using public spaces and they should be
licensed, but regardless, many dogs per person is problematic. She suggested that the limit
should be three dogs per person. Ted commented that he supports limits to the number of
dogs, adding that irresponsible dog owners will continue be an issue. He expressed support for
consistency among agencies. Ted asked if there would be a fee associated with a special use
permit; John said it would be a small processing fee. Ted expressed that communicating with
dog-walking businesses would be important to let them know that regulations are being
discussed.
Dan commented that many dog rules exist and he supports status quo. He does not support a
special use permit nor consistency with the County. A discussion followed about permitting
complexities. Dan suggested that dog-walking business owners should be informed that these
discussions are taking place in light of potential impacts on their businesses. Adam added that
special permits would allow better tracking and management of incidents; he mentioned that
since permits are required of yoga classes, camps, etc. it makes sense to require this of
commercial dog-walkers. John added that these permits are related to numbers of participants.
Julie asked for Brian’s opinion; John said he probably supports option 3 and maybe option 1 as
well given the low number of complaints. Howie expressed his support for option 3. Julie posed
that if issues were daily or weekly, more regulation would be appropriate. Julie commented on
the leash law that stipulates a 10-foot leash compared to most other regulations that stipulate
6-foot leashes. Ann expressed her support for option 3. Howie commented that this topic can
be revisited if problems increase.
Howie noted a typographical error within dog ordinance language, a discrepancy in one of the
fine amounts: Sec. 6.01.110 Harassing Wildlife Prohibited, 4th bullet: “…five hundred fifty dollars
($500.00) for a second offense…” (Ord 14,2018).
Howie made a motion that the Board recommends supporting the status quo based on
empirical evidence. Dan seconded and the vote was unanimous.
Old Business: None.
Board Comments:
Julie: Asked if staff have heard back from Theatre Aspen about their proposed project. Mike
said that following their last meeting with OSTB, he has reached out several times. Theatre
Aspen has arranged for a drilling rig to do soil borings to provide geotechnical information. He
anticipates a geotechnical report from this effort; otherwise communication with Theatre
Aspen has been fairly quiet.
Ted: Mentioned the importance of addressing mounting community concern about potential
Entrance to Aspen impacts, citing letters to the editor expressing concerns about inaccurate
concepts. Once concerns stemming from inaccurate information build up, the situation can
escalate. He suggested providing drawings and other information to correct misinformation.
Mike commented that this is a good point. He explained that staff have been looking at impacts
through the lens of parks, open space, and trails. Discussions on this topic so far have been
transportation-focused; he emphasized that without wrapping in other concerns including
those related to open space, it can become difficult. Staff is working on this. Ted added that this
topic has a long-range timeframe during which community impressions and sentiment can
develop.
Howie: Howie added that Ted’s comment is important. He commented that the Entrance
project, led by Engineering, could benefit from input through an open space/ landscape
architecture lens. The Cut/Cover option can address open space as a design challenge and
opportunity, and even show how it could benefit open space and trails. He recommended
collaboration with Engineering. Ted added that it could be better to consult with Engineering
before they simply hand Parks a plan for the highway. Mike agreed and mentioned that the
process to this point has been high level road/bridge design; an RFP for design services will be
issued and will include addressing Parks’ interests. Once a design firm is secured, Parks will be
actively involved. Howie recalled discussions and decisions from the 1970s on the entrance to
Aspen; he mentioned that the plan could be creative, perhaps involving a curve in the highway
as a way of meeting certain needs.
Dan: Mentioned that he would like to include connections to the Intercept Lot when discussing
upgrades at Cozy Point Ranch; he feels the scale of investment warrants improving access. He
asked staff for a calendar invite for meetings.
Adam: Echoed Dan’s comment on Intercept Lot connections to Cozy Point Ranch. He also
mentioned Mill Street Plaza’s plow service that leaves snow spoils on the adjacent trail; this
leads to major ice issues on the trail and was a problem last year as well. Adam asked whether
the Board can make motions to support or oppose Entrance to Aspen approaches, and make
public statements.
Ann: Agreed with the importance of working on Intercept lot connections to Cozy Point Ranch;
she suggested discussing this with EOTC because they would be involved with funding on the
Intercept Lot side of this concept. She asked about the large pile of soil at Cozy Point Ranch.
Mike explained that this is stockpiled material that will be used this summer during phase two
of the re-grading project. It is valuable valley topsoil and is maintained per erosion control and
water quality; there are monthly inspections. Ann also commented that she expects the
Entrance to Aspen topic to be on the ballot in November and that it is important for the
community to hear from Parks to address community concerns and misunderstandings in
advance. She also expressed interest in the story of ACES’ chain link fence.
Next Meeting Date(s): Regular meeting February 16, 2023.
Executive Session: N/A
Adjourned: Howie made a motion to adjourn; Julie seconded and the vote was unanimous.