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HomeMy WebLinkAboutcclc.min.080499 COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION MINUTES OF AUGUST 4, 1999 Chairperson Jon Busch called the meeting to order at 8:30 a.m. Commissioners in attendance were Bill Dinsoor, Terry Butler and John Star. Don Swells was excused. MOTION: Jon moved to approve the minutes of July 7, !999; second by Terry. Ali in favor, motion carried. Board requested Sara Oats to come to the next CCLC meeting. Issues of Aspen Sports and bikes out on the mall. Enforcement In and out house chairs in the public right-of-way. Terry thanked all the commissioners for coming to the council meeting. Without the commission behind the ordinance it would not have passed. John brought up the issue of the newsrack settlement with the Post Office which was in the paper. The postmaster relayed that it was an engineering problem for access to the space for newsracks. A concrete pad was to be poured by the city for the newsracks. Staffwas directed to contact the Engineering Dept. about the issues. List of issues that CCLC should work on. Expansion of the commercial core to include the post office. To be discussed at a future CCLC meeting. Delivery Vehicle Ordinance Move the hours from 8:00 to 9:00 Liz's linens owned by Liz Barbatelli. Rents a parking spot behind Boogies, Her issue is getting her car into the parking spot. She is blocked by trucks. She has the spot to be close to her store. Ice Cream truck and Alliance truck block the alley. She gets into arguments from the Parking employees. She has had the parking spot for two years. Everyone has to be trustworthy and she is not trying to get out of paying the ticket. Possibly register her car with the Parking Department in order for everyone to know who has cars parked there. Electrical and COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION MINUTES OF AUGUST 4, 1999 Plumbing vehicles block the alley. ' She stated that the ordinance doesn't address delivery vehicles totally blocking the alley. Those who have businesses in the alley need to be addressed. Add: Access to any private drive should not be blocked. 24.20.040 A. C. Add if required. Change hours from 8:00 to 9:00. Tim said the CCLC has to be very careful with the exemptions. Motion: John moved to change the time from 8:00 to 9:00, second by Bill. All in favor, motion carried. Terry voted but she wanted it noted in the records that she felt the time should be 7:00 a.m. in the morning rather than 5:00 a.m. Linda, Aspen Florist has a shop at the ABC. If the delivery trucks can't come in early morning 3:30 to 5:00 without wholesalers they can't get serviced. Tim Ware relayed that the floral truck is actually delivering the flowers. Those vehicles are allowed to park at metered spaces. Add flow chart to the ordinance. John Starr stated that the importance of the residence in the commercial core has to be weighed with the deliveries. Large trucks are still not allowed in the commercial core before 5:00. An idea would be to bring in small vans. Find another area of commercial core area to park. Bill Dinsmoor relayed that some businesses will do their deliveries in Basalt first and then come to Aspen. Help other deliveries with combined deliveries in smaller vehicles. An idea would be to deliver in a different time sequence. 2 COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION MINUTES OF AUGUST 4, 1999 Definition of delivery vehicle. Tim stated that it is de£med as a regular delivery vehicle. Larger vehicles and smaller vehicles their business depends on that delivery to happen. If tickets are issued the question is asked what were the delivery vehicles options. (Was a parking space open, was the alley open etc. ) If there is no other option the officer is to stay with the vehicle while the delivery is being made. Expeditious delivery and unloading is the key.. Tim: Defining vehicles is difficult due to issues such as hydraulic loading, diesel, refrigeration, noise, size, steel loading ramps. Jon: The intent of this ordinance is to keep the quiet hours quiet in the core. Mike Husaleck: What definition ora vehicle would be appropriate for the parking division to administrate. Daytime deliveries can make any kind of noise. There was discussion of length. The board agreed to stripe passenger under deliveries. Bill relayed that extenuating circumstances such as weather etc. can be worked out. Mike: United Stationers is doing a test run to deliver after 5:00 a.m. John stated the theory is that there are two different categories one for nighttime and daytime. The nighttime would be changed to 15 foot or under vehicle. Tim said deliveries may be made during this time frame that are 15 feet in length or under that and dO not have a refrigeration unit, diesel or automatic lift gates or vehicles that cause undo noise or disturbance. Tim said he would put the language together. COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION MINUTES OF AUGUST 4, 1999 Bill stated in 20.020 first paragraph add vehicles that have permits by the City of Aspen. Adam Walton relayed that some lift gates are not hydraulic they are electric. Tim: Permitted vehicles are really 24.20.020 C. Mike relayed that the delivery company is putting on a smaller truck and smaller route in order to get it back to Denver for daytime use. They are willing to do a test. Bill: What are the issues that would get into their way. What would slow them down. Road construction and weather. Mike doesn't like the fact that merchandise is sitting on the dock nor the fact that he gets deliveries at 3:00 a.m. Tim relayed that exemptions should fall under vehicle size. Mike: Five skids will take hours if they are delivered at Hyman. Particular circumstance: snow, weather conditions, road closure. Emergency deliveries. Appeal process. Quasi-judicial procedure. CCLC should take ownership to the ordinance. Clear guidelines need to be in the ordinance.. Board reiterated 9:00 vehicle 15 feet, no diesel,no refrigeration, no lifts. Check on cl zone. Explanation of cc zone. Use a physical description. Mechanism to plea of case. Night time vs daytime for size delivery. Explanation added to ordinance. Flow chart added to the ordinance. COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION MINUTES OF AUGUST 4, 1999 Issues for future meetings: Walk through with Newspaper Vendors and Engineering regarding the newsrack ordinance September 15th MOTION: John moved to adjourn; second by Terry. All in favor, motion carried. Meeting adjourned at 11:30 a.m. Kathleen J. Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk 5