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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.council.20141208Regular Meeting Aspen City Council December 8, 2014 1 SPECIAL PUBLIC APPEARANCES - Mike Metheny present Council with the International Code Chapter chapter of the year award. ............................................................................................................... 2 CITIZEN COMMENTS AND PETITION ................................................................................................... 2 COUNCILMEMBER COMMENTS ............................................................................................................ 2 CITY MANAGER’S COMMENTS ............................................................................................................. 2 Consent Calendar .......................................................................................................................................... 3 Resolution #143, Series of 2014 – Fiber Optic License ................................................................... 3 Resolution #142, Series of 2014 – Updates to the Urban Management Runoff Plan ....................... 3 Resolution #145, Series of 2014 – Aspen Mountain Plaza Elevator Replacement Revocable Encroachment License ...................................................................................................................... 3 Resolution #144, Series of 2014 – Assignments of Interest in the Aspen Country Inn Limited Partnership ........................................................................................................................................ 3 Resolution #134 – 2015 Property Tax Mill Levy ......................................................................................... 3 Ordinance #41, Series of 2014 – 928 W. Hallam St. – Lot Split .................................................................. 4 Ordinance #39, Series of 2014 – 709 E. Durant – Sky Hotel Planned Development ................................... 4 Resolution #136, Series of 2014 – Lodging Policy Direction ...................................................................... 5 Regular Meeting Aspen City Council December 8, 2014 2 Mayor Skadron called the meeting to order at 5:00 p.m. with Councilmembers Daily, Frisch, Romero and Mullins present. SPECIAL PUBLIC APPEARANCES - Mike Metheny present Council with the International Code Chapter of the year award. CITIZEN COMMENTS AND PETITION 1. Patti Clapper commented on the temporary city office space use of Tasters restaurant. She supports the council’s efforts to preserve locally serving community restaurants. It is a huge community asset to have the restaurant there and provides a huge community service. She asked council to find another space for office use. COUNCILMEMBER COMMENTS 1. Councilman Frisch mentioned the parking waiver week and hopes we don’t have to do it again. It showed the importance of paid parking. 2. Councilwoman Mullins apologized to all of Aspen for the recycle center. She was there this morning and it is a mess. She knows Staff is working with waste management on it but the problem will only get worse as the season progresses. 3. Councilwoman Mullins commented on building permit fee waivers and would like to look more closely at the permit process. She is not surprised at the staff time but was surprised at the redundancy and repetition of information within the application. The process can be streamlined overall. 4. Councilwoman Mullins said we are talking about fine tuning the lodging ordinance while there are several proposals in the works. She said we need to rely on the land use code that is in place and craft the ordinance without the external pressures of the projects in the approval process. She would like Council to consider how they will handle the projects that are coming in the new year. Instead of granting variances and waivers they should fix the code. 5. Councilwoman Mullins said buildings in town are getting too big. We should not be dwarfing our iconic buildings and taking away from the essential character of town. The ski mountain has a physical presence in town. The larger buildings create a wall street effect and block views of the mountains. We should start to consider view plans or selling air rights. 6. Mayor Skadron wished everyone a happy and healthy holidays. CITY MANAGER’S COMMENTS Steve Barwick said they have decided to put off the parking department move to Tasters for as long as possible. They can guarantee that Tasters will be there throughout 2015. Councilman Frisch asked if a food truck would be able to serve at that location. Mr. Barwick stated there is a mobile vending ordinance which allows the city manager to approve mobile vending. Generally we don’t allow much of that but an exception could be made in this case. Councilman Romero suggested extending the lease for the next year. He stated he hopes we would never have to relocate that locally serving restaurant. He said we need to spend the next 13 months finding an alternative for city office space and exhaust all options before we kick out Tasters. Councilwoman Mullins stated Stacy’s father wrote a compelling letter and she is glad we are able to keep working on the problem. Councilman Daily stated it is a highly desirable community restaurant and encourages the continuation of Tasters for as long as possible. He is glad the future of the building will contain a restaurant. Mayor Skadron said Council’s responsibility is not only to insure there is a community restaurant but to keep public costs at a minimum. The reason this is happening is because the market of the town has shifted and the rent we are paying for city staff is increasing and we are required to find more space. It is also Council’s responsibility to keep the playing field level. It is a subsidized space and any of Taster’s competitors can say it is unfair. Councilman Regular Meeting Aspen City Council December 8, 2014 3 Frisch compared it to the mall lease and said if a rate adjustment needs to happen that is fine but we should see if Taster’s can stay there. Consent Calendar Resolution 142 – updates to the URMP. Councilwoman Mullins asked about the landscape permit and if it is an additional cost. April Long, engineering replied the permit has been in place for a couple of years but the language in the URMP is new. Councilwoman Mullins asked about master plans for the drainage basins. Ms. Long replied there are completed plans for Aspen Mountain Basin and about 50 percent complete with Smuggler Basin. Plans for the other two are in the budget. Resolution 145 – Aspen Mountain Plaza Elevator Replacement Revocable Encroachment License Councilman Frisch asked what this is for. Jim True, city attorney, stated the Skiing Company requested to improve the existing ADA lift. There is a substantial investment associated with the improvement and they asked for some additional terms to our standard revocable easement. Given the public benefit it is appropriate to provide the additional terms. Councilwoman Mullins asked the difference between the encroachment license and an easement. Mr. True said this was at his suggestion and they are not that different other than terminology. He said it was best to provide the license rather than an easement. Councilwoman Mullins asked if there are issues with existing utilities. Tyler Christoff, engineering, replied they are not aware of any. Mayor Skadron asked Mr. Christoff about the rain gardens and said he is fearful that during the winter season they will be a hazard. He said people are disembarking the bus there and stepping into the garden to retrieve their skis. Mr. Christoff stated the bus is intended to stop on the western side of the intersection. The bus drop off sign was stolen. Mayor Skadron stated there should be coordination with transportation and RFTA. Mr. Christoff said the rain gardens will be improved in the spring. Councilman Daily agreed they need to be looked at.  Resolution #143, Series of 2014 – Fiber Optic License  Resolution #142, Series of 2014 – Updates to the Urban Management Runoff Plan  Resolution #145, Series of 2014 – Aspen Mountain Plaza Elevator Replacement Revocable Encroachment License  Resolution #144, Series of 2014 – Assignments of Interest in the Aspen Country Inn Limited Partnership Councilwoman Mullins moved to adopt the consent calendar; seconded by Councilman Frisch. All in favor, motion carried. Resolution #134 – 2015 Property Tax Mill Levy Pete Strecker, finance, told the Council the 2015 budget relies on the 2014 assessed values. 2014 is a non-reassessment year so assessed values are relatively flat this year to last year. The maximum increase will mirror the assessed value increase of .3 percent. The full allowable increase for the general fund and AMP is estimated to be 3.44 percent. The difference between the storm water and the general property tax mill levy tax process is the general property tax has a tax credit in plac . In the past Council has always adopted a temporary mill levy credit. Currently we have enough room under the credit to capture full growth plus new development. We anticipate a larger credit in the future. Councilman Romero asked what the credit was last year. Mr. Strecker replied it was around .5 or .6 Mayor Skadron stated we are approving a credit that will lower the general property tax and take no credit in the asset management plan. Mr. Strecker said the general property tax funds both the asset management plan and general fund. Currently there is a 65-35 split. Regular Meeting Aspen City Council December 8, 2014 4 Mayor Skadron opened the public comment. There was none. Mayor Skadron closed the public comment. Councilman Frisch moved to approve Resolution #134, Series of 2014; seconded by Councilwoman Mullins. Roll call vote. Councilmembers Frisch, yes; Daily, yes; Mullins, yes; Romero, yes; Mayor Skadron, yes. Motion Carried. Ordinance #41, Series of 2014 – 928 W. Hallam St. – Lot Split Councilman Frisch moved to continue Ordinance #41, Series of 2014 until January 12, 2014; seconded by Councilwoman Mullins. All in favor, motion carried. Ordinance #39, Series of 2014 – 709 E. Durant – Sky Hotel Planned Development Mayor Skadron said the applicant requested the public hearing be continued until January. He asked if anyone from out of town came in to comment. Bert Myrin and Blanca O’Leary stated they were both out of town last week. Ms. O’Leary stated she is speaking for her husband. Mr. Myrin said there are requests for variances that are significantly different from the code. Mayor Skadron stated there was a public hearing and he and Councilwoman Mullins challenged the applicant on the height. Mr. Myrin passed out a handout from when infill came along. The pre-infill number was up zoned to what we have currently. The negotiations seem to start at the new zone rather than what we have. It said it would be more efficient to stick with the zone. He said they are looking forward to supporting this when it meets the code. Things are going in the right direction. He would like to see the applicants come in and meet the code. The request is for something beyond the code. Mayor Skadron stated this passed P&Z with approval and came to Council where they said no. Mr. True said that Council has not made a determination but gave direction. There is a request from the applicant that the public hearing be continued. The applicant is making changes based on Council comments. Councilwoman Mullins said a lot of Council comments came out of the public comment. There was quite a bit of conversation from the public. Mr. Myrin said the public should not have had to come to get Council to follow the rules. Council should follow the rules. Councilwoman Mullins said we are not going to cut out public comment. Mrs. O’Leary stated Mr. O’Leary is not against all development at all time. He likes what Council is doing to try to make it work and what the applicant is trying to do. He would like to see the application brought back in code. Mayor Skadron closed the public hearing. Councilman Frisch moved to continue Ordinance #39, Series of 2014 to January 12, 2015; seconded by Councilwoman Mullins. All in favor, motion carried. Regular Meeting Aspen City Council December 8, 2014 5 Resolution #136, Series of 2014 – Lodging Policy Direction Jessica Garrow, community development, said the resolution does not amend the land use code and only provides direction for Staff to make changes. They tried to simplify the code amendment objectives and make it more aspirational. The focus is to assist the lodging community, particularly small lodges. They will focus first on amendments that assist small lodges then condominium units. Staff will come back during the ordinance with definition parameters that define what a small lodge is. It is not as simple as saying number of rooms. They moved the small lodge section to the front. Staff added a section for parking stating onsite requirements should not be changed. The floor area portion has been updated to state any changes in floor area should not impact height. There is also a section that says heights are to remain unchanged. The resolution includes a statement that overall floor area should not be increased or changed through these amendments. They added specific language related to fees which includes analysis of how they will be paid for. There is potentially a sunset provision. Staff will be tracking all the fees that are waived to understand the impact to the City. They added a section related to affordable housing where they don’t want to focus on affordable housing as a main incentive. Councilwoman Mullins asked what the sunset is. Ms. Garrow said it is included in section 10. It does not state a timeframe but is something they want to talk about during the code amendment and will be defined in the ordinance. Councilwoman Mullins read the strive for lodging being the highest and best and compatible with community character and ask how are we doing this. Ms. Garrow said it is one of the overall objectives. An example would be allowing more lodge to be built within an overall building. Councilwoman Mullins asked if section 2F and section 4 are contradicting each other. Ms. Garrow said the free/reduced street parking passes are things lodges currently purchase. Section 4 refers to onsite parking for redevelopment or new lodges. Councilwoman Mullins asked about enforcement for vacation residence. Ms. Garrow said they included additional language in section 9 that there has to be adequate assurance. It has not been identified but they know it is a key issue. It could be tied to any other incentive they may be receiving. Councilman Romero asked about the affordable housing requirements in section 11. The bias is more to the framework in section 4. He would like to see additional analysis of requirements for small lodges and condominiums. The scope of changes has nothing to do with affordable housing other than multi-family. We have not found an innovative way to replace the standards. Using the Sky as an example, they are requesting a doubling of square footage and per code for mitigation they are over delivering with three units. It is an illustration of the existing code for growth and section 11 does not resonate. It should start with no changes to the affordable housing code. The second sentence may be more aspirational for needs and methods for small lodge and condo owner. Councilman Romero said staff conducted several public outreach techniques and procedures. He encouraged that as the process move forward he would like to hear what P&Z has to say in a more formalized fashion. Chris Bendon, community development, said they can delete the affordable housing piece or change it to reflect the language of the parking section. Staff was responding to a comment from Councilwoman Mullins to relook at affordable housing requirements. They were seen as obstacles to redevelopment. Councilman Romero gave a warning against reducing the affordable housing component. Regular Meeting Aspen City Council December 8, 2014 6 Councilwoman Mullins said it could be a much firmer statement but with some flexibility. There is a lack of seasonal and affordable housing and a need for more. It should be a firmer statement but still allow some flexibility. Mr. Bendon replied firmer that it is not intended to reduce requirements but look at it. Councilwoman Mullins said maybe housing does not get triggered until a substantial development. Councilman Romero said the required affordable housing for larger projects under the current code are low. Can we get more creative/innovative in the multi-family replacement piece of the code and still allow people to refresh. Mr. Bendon suggested it should not intend to reduce affordable housing requirements across the board but some exceptions for small lodges may be necessary. Ms. Garrow asked if this flexibility is for condos or just small lodges. Councilman Romero replied both. Councilman Daily said he needs a better idea of when does flexibility kick in and at what level of redevelopment. He needs a better comprehension of what fees are generated by particular projects. He would like to see an analysis of different projects. How far does a remodel reach before you get to redevelopment and how it relates to fee reductions. He asked to see examples of the current process and where some reductions may be appropriate. Fee reductions will be a critical component of the plan. He asked where water and sewer tap fee come in to play and how do we want to deal with them. Mr. Bendon said Staff will do full fee mock ups. There are fees comdev does not have control of. Councilman Daily stated we want the actions we take to actually move the needle in a constructive direction and one that will make a difference. Councilman Frisch said there is a disconnect between the community and what we want to do. Consultants came back with three things to stop the declining bed base including a discussion on fees. The money is in the affordable housing fees. The second and third ones were height and a free market component. Lodging is currently number two compared to free market. If we are not wanting to get into a substantial discussion on affordable housing, height or free market he is not sure how we can stop the room loss. The other part is the condo market that didn’t think was to get bigger just better. If we could grandfather the current size it may work. He does not think the height of a condo is important to condos. Small lodges are all small except seven or eight. Small lodges just want to be more relevant. He does not see a path to having a substance of change in the decreasing bed base if Council has been told a mixture of affordable housing, height and free market need to change. If we continue to have the same code we will see the same thing happening. In 10 or 15 years there will be less lodging that is more expensive and exclusive. He said he is trying to be realistic about what needs to get done and what some amount of the community would prefer to have happen. Mayor Skadron asked if he is suggesting that what this is whittled down to is insubstantial. Councilman Frisch said his hope was that there would be a sincere discussion of a possible fourth floor for two to three buildings along the base of the mountain. There are a few big hurdles stopping the condos from remodeling. It would be interesting to see an older condo come in and explain how it moves forward. He is worried that some things might not ever change and they will be spending more time and effort without a result. There is some vacant land that needs something to happen on. He is not sure if what it takes to finance a project and what the community will take are at the same place. He said he won’t be surprised if this code won’t happen. We need to figure out a way to make the town stay vital and vibrant. There is a higher bar on affordable housing than two months ago but it still should be on the table. We should continue to talk about condos and small lodges and are the issues facing them the same issues facing big hotels. Regular Meeting Aspen City Council December 8, 2014 7 Mayor Skadron said objective B encourages investment in the existing lodges and short term rental condos. These represent 40 percent and directly relates to sections eight and nine. His concerns are how we will address multi-family replacement and preventing the conversion to free market. Ms. Garrow said section 10 pertains to City process and fees and would contain a timeframe. Mayor Skadron said objective C is to strive for lodging be the highest and best use in the lodging zone. In the ordinance is there a compelling inducement to a lodge owner to keep the property as a lodge. The owner needs to make a reasonable rate of return. Councilman Frisch said people have converted. There are very few that can convert over. They need to upgrade but it is mostly about fees and size. The hurdle is this is how much I can spend per key and can’t afford remodel. It is not a value proposition to stay a lodge. Mayor Skadron asked about section 2 point E the need for grants or loans. What do we do if a lodge converts in the future. Ms. Garrow said there will be language added in the ordinance. Councilman Frisch suggested separating the two. Loans are different than grants. With loans we are expecting some type of pay back. It should be two different bullet points. Mayor Skadron asked for a definition of small lodge. Ms. Garrow said it is a Snow Queen type of lodge meaning. Staff will come back with a definition including key indicators. Mayor Skasron opened the public comment. 1. Camilla Auger said she is struggling with the question of incentives of hotels, variances and small lodges. What we are talking about is the drive of investor financing. What is difficult to get is equity financing. Low interest loans for lodges or affordable rental space could be made available to cut into equity portion. To add a fourth floor is absolutely enormously significant financially. Fourth floor and size pays the investors and we don’t want it here. The reason we live here is it is a livable small human scale town. That is why we have the business and are successful. To build higher and bigger is to kill the goose that laid the golden egg. It is not something we can afford to give in on. The scale of the town is so significant to our quality of life. The Little Nell is a huge hotel but you don’t feel that. We don’t want to sacrifice height, mass or scale and need to look at other incentives. It needs to include replacement of affordable rentals. It is impossible under the existing rules. Affordable housing is a high priority. Look at shifting to move affordable housing off site. Additional work and creativity is needed but don’t give in on what is important to the future. 2. David Corbin, aspen ski co, said regardless of the source or nature of outreach we shouldn’t forget that 60-70 percent of participants said there is a lodging problem and we should pay attention to it. He hopes Council does not punt the problem down the road. It is a critical component that need addressed. We do not want to see slow erosion of the bed base. It is a hard model to make a small lodge work today. He understands the magnitude of fee waivers but they still need addressed. He hopes Council passes the resolution and have staff look at those things that need it. The issue of condos and how they are refurbished is pretty important. He point back to Alan Richman’s study on the challenges of the simplest refurbish to existing stock. 40 percent of the bed base is there. Mayor Skadron asked for comments on Camilla’s comments. Mr. Corbin said he thinks it is wrong to simply say an entire area of the code should never be considered again. It is premature to say it’s all off the table. 3. Marcia Goshorn said when proposals come to Council we need more lower category rentals not high category sales units for affordable housing. Category four income for a single person is 140,000. One and two are 35,000 and 55,000. There is a lack of housing is those categories. The City has the ability to do more rental housing and it is desperately needed. The City has the land and she would like to see the City partner with the county, they have the money. The Regular Meeting Aspen City Council December 8, 2014 8 housing summit strategic plan from 2012 said we need more lower category rental housing. The vacation residence program is a good idea but can’t say what the rental rate is. A high rate is in the market but may never have anyone in it, yet it’s in the program. With small lodges some of the older ones like aspen square the fees end up being more than the price when first purchased for a bathroom remodel. It is not worth it to them. 4. Patrick Segal recommend a public private partnership for small lodges. The public has partial ownership and first right of refusal when sold. If the city does not build up they will build down. 5. Blanca O’Leary said she is very happy this is being addressed and researched. She likes the part about outreach brought up by Councilman Romero. People are nervous and concerned and staff should do a lot more outreach. All lodging should adhere to the code. Create incentives to support small lodges, grants or loans that would be paid back if converted in the future. 6. Bert Myrin said to go back and look at what worked and what didn’t before the last change. Allow condos to refurbish and refinish. Staff should focus on those things and streamline. He said it is wise to recognize affordable housing is small. He is not suggesting to change the code but follow the code. The low numbers are because of incentives. Weather it should be all 28 feet he is not sure but is should stick to the code. If we want to change from that we need to change the code so it applies to everyone in that zone. Councilman Frisch said right now if that was the case no one would show up. Ms. O’Leary said if we become Vail what will be the incentive to come here. Mr. Myrin said the barriers to keep current are so high. We need to shorten the cycle. Mayor Skadron said to look at what worked and what did not in the past. What they are competing against is residential. Is there enough in the small lodge section to provide inducement. Mr. Myrin said it’s a start. We should look at the infill code changes and analyze what we got. 7. Richie Cohen said we had these problems in the 70’s and 80’s. The St Regis was a monumental undertaking in a place people did not want it. It was one of the most important things for moving Aspen into the market. Living under growth management plan that set quotas for different parts of town. The code was not as micromanaged as it is today. They came in with a proposal for a five star hotel with a conference space. It took five full years to get the original part of the plan approved. During that time the Nell came through. They had a site that went up the hill and in a position to step the building up the hill. The concept of perceived height needed to be explained. It wasn’t bad and didn’t block the view. Certain places have the ability to conform beyond the code. It didn’t need variance because they sold it on its merits. If the merit is there and the community can agree it is something necessary we should do it. Given its place, height and mass, if approved by the steps leading to it, it should be built. In the right place it works. 8. Ziska Childs said for renovations and condos we are looking at a carrot and stick scenario. We need to make permitting easier and offer different solution. Deed restrictions can be scammed. What you intend to happen will not happen. There are many reasons why deed restrictions are not beneficial to the community and reduce flexibility of what the owner can do with the place. Flexibility allows someone to keep the property and morph it into what you need for your lifestyle. Put the stick at the first part of equation. Have a star rating, quality control. It would be a stamp of approval independent from the owner. Help that person achieve a higher badge rating by opting to improve the rental. It’s easier to bulldoze than improve. 9. Charlie Bantis gave a different perspective to this. They were able to give hockey scholarships for every penny asked for. He read some quotes from hockey parents. The ability to provide for Regular Meeting Aspen City Council December 8, 2014 9 families and to stay here is directly tied to the number of visitors that come to Aspen and how much they leave. It is a struggle to live here and provide kids with great lives. No matter how hard we work or cut expenses we can’t make ends meet. There were 29 scholarship applications and lots of ideas on what to do. Do something and something that will make a difference. The parents work in industries that are directly affected by who comes to town. They are not making enough to stay here. Anything that can be done to revitalize the lodging base and get people to come here will help these folks. To have a real town you need people to live and work here. 10. Mick Ireland said don’t bite on Reagan economics. There has been lots of discussion on the 1,100 condos that provide 40 percent of the bed base. 70 percent are non-locally owned. A lot of units that need to be rented have been lost to long term rental. Most of the lodging is allowed under overlay zones with the right to convert to single family homes. He said not to throw affordable housing under the bus. The requirements for onsite housing are already very minimal. That burden has already shifted to the public sector. Look at results of prior up zoning. He looked at every property in C1 and CC and nothing about infill suggested that C1 or CC became more vital. The St Regis was approved by a public vote. If it is very good people will vote for it. Council could adopt rule for a public vote. He suggested a matching grant program with a deed restriction. Small lodges are infrastructure. If they change their mind we get our money back. Instead of waiting for a reaction why not go to the small lodges and ask what they need to make it work as a lodge. The City investing in some of the fees and improvements would be a win win. Why not pay some money for lodging to remain lodging. Mayor Skadron said to pay for lodging to remain lodging rather than waiving fees. Mr. Ireland said one of the most successful programs is affordable housing and it involves a long term deed restrictions. The deed restriction works and is understandable. The equity barrier is substantial. Councilman Frisch said Staff reached out to small lodge owners and none said the issue was height and mass but the amount of money and the time it takes. Instead of reducing fees help pay the fees. 11. Ms. Garrow read an email from Maria Morrow Mayor Skadron closed the public comment. Councilman Frisch said we have fee waivers and bulk and mass. Fee waivers are easier. It is a somewhat inefficient housing market but we made that tradeoff. How much do we want to value the City’s involvement. We should continue to look at what we are doing here. We can reduce fees and still honor what we signed on to provide and make the process easier. The loans and grants are worthy of a discussion. Councilman Daily said we should continue the direction we are going. He appreciates Mick’s observations on public investment and it is an idea we need to explore further. We don’t yet have our hands on something that will make the lodging needle move. The idea of participating in a long term process with the City’s participation is a good one. Councilwoman Mullins said we need to try it and see how it works. If it does not do enough then we adjust it. It is better to do small steps but we absolutely need to do something. Ziska’s point of a rating system is interesting. It could be a justification for grants to get people to move up the ladder. Mick’s point is good that the old lodges are the infrastructure of the town. Instead of just waiving fees giving cash will help add infrastructure and character to the ordinance. Regular Meeting Aspen City Council December 8, 2014 10 Councilman Frisch said restaurants and hotels have an authoritarian person giving ratings. The Only peer to peer rating system is trip advisor. The real driver is peer to peer. No authority should get involved in ratings. If you want money to stay a lodge stay a lodge. Mayor Skadron said the key points have been addressed and they are asking Staff to proceed. Ms. Garrow said the amendments would be Section 1, adding an objective that small lodges are part of our infrastructure. Split the loans and grants in Section 2E. Section 11, change the language that the code amendments should not intend to reduce affordable housing requirements across the board but provide some flexibility for small lodge and condo improvements that may be necessary. Councilman Romero moved to approve Resolution #136, Series of 2014 with amendments; seconded by Councilman Frisch. Councilwoman Mullins also requested more definitions and elaboration on enforcement. Roll call vote. Councilmembers Mullins, yes; Romero, yes; Frisch, yes; Daily, yes; Mayor Skadron, yes. Motion carried. Councilman Frisch moved to adjourn at 8:15 pm; seconded by Councilman Frisch. All in favor, motion carried. Linda Manning City Clerk