HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.20150107ASPEN HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
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Vice-chair, Willis Pember called the meeting to order at 5:00 p.m.
Commissioners in attendance were John Whipple, Nora Berko, Sallie
Golden and Jim DeFrancia. Patrick Sagal was seated at 5:50 p.m.
Staff present:
Debbie Quinn, Assistant City Attorney
Amy Simon, Preservation Planner
Kathy Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk
Disclosure:
Nora will recuse herself on North Monarch.
Sallie said she can be fair and impartial on 202 N. Mona rch. Sallie said she
owned the property and sold it to the applicant. Sallie said she has no
monetary interest in the project.
MOTION: Nora moved to approve the minutes of Dec. 3 rd as amended,
second by Jim. All in favor, motion carried.
MOTION: John moved to approve the minutes of Dec. 10th; second by
Willis. All in favor, motion carried.
229 W. Smuggler/426 N. Second – Conceptual Major Development, On-
Site Relocation and Variances, Public Hearing, Cont’d from Nov. 12th
Amy said this is the third hearing. At the last meeting there were issues over
the dormer proposed to the back side of Victorian and whether or not the
Victorian should be relocated on the site or not and now and where the
addition should be placed in order to gain some extra square footage. Before
you tonight is a new version and staff is recommending approval. The
Victorian is not being moved. It will be picked up for a proper basement.
The addition is still located on the east side of the house and it has been
redesigned. Instead of having a glass lean-to they have turned and
reoriented the addition and tucked it in tight against the house. It is quieter
and smaller and staff is satisfied with the placement. They have also
dropped the two story garage to a one story garage on the alley. They do not
need a side yard setback variance for the addition anymore. They are still
proposing a dormer on the back of the Victorian. Staff feels it is a
reasonable and traditional addition to the house. At final we ask a restudy of
the light well at the front porch and we would also like a restudy of the
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staircase that is coming out the front side of the new addition. The new
addition is only 300 square feet and the staircase is coming out three sides of
it. It confuses which door is the front door. There are still some setback
variances needed for the garage along the alley. It needs a side yard
variance and a rear yard setback variance.
One thing that might need changed in the resolution is when you have two
detached structures on a site they are not subject to a combined side yard
setback restriction. In order for the building to be considered detached they
have to be separated by ten feet above and below grade. The proposed in the
packet has the two units ten feet apart above grade but not below grade.
Staff has suggested HPC grant a variance for that dimension. The applicant
would also like to have the two basements touching each other after all for
ease of construction. If they do that then we need to call this project a
duplex. It will still look the same above grade. We would need the
combined side yard setback variance reduction of 15 feet. They are
supposed to have 30 feet and have 5 on one side and ten on the other so they
are short 15 feet. A structural engineer report will be required and a bond
posted. Overall we feel this will be a successful project and we recommend
conceptual approval.
John Schenk CCY architects
Mitch Haas, Hass Land Planning
Melissa Mabe, Ruggles, Mabe, Terrell Architecture
Mitch said on the first two hearings we did not have staff support at all and
we have come a long way. If we have a ten foot separation there is no
combined yard setback variance. Because the basements abut each other we
technically need the variance. While it sounds like a 15 foot reduction is a
great deal it is really only for unit A where it is ten feet off the property line
and where the garage sits which is 5 feet of the property line. The
predominance of the combined setbacks is way more than 30 feet. Before
we had the two basements wall 3 ½ feet apart but construction wise that
would be difficult to back fill. We are still not requesting any FAR bonuses
even though we are undertaking a great deal of restoration. The building is
crooked so it needs a new foundation and then it was decided to do the
basement and have more livable space.
John Schenk, CCY architects
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John thanks the HPC for having a special meeting. John presented a power
point of the proposed project. The site plan includes the historical structure
and Unit A resides at the back of the lot. We are proposing a single bay
garage with the addition of Unit A. The intent is to restore the Victorian
1888 house and live in it. They intend to maintain the northwest yard and
turn it into somewhat of a public garden. They also want a southern terrace.
The new addition will be detached from the historic piece. The lot is 9,000
square foot lot but it is constrained to be built on the south edge. We had
looked at a number of different version for this property. We have reduced
the above grade program and reduced the size of the garage. The addition
connects to the east side but is much smaller and minimizes the connection
to the historic piece. The owner will take this building back to its historic
look. We will remove the dormer on the west side and skylight on the
southern face toward the alley. There is also dry rot along the baseboard of
the building and the front steps are sloping to the side. We wil l rebuild the
front porch and redo the decorative details. There is also a small dormer on
Unit A and we shifted the southern dormer to the west.
Willis asked about the parking.
Mitch said today there is zero parking required and we are actually
improving the condition with one in the garage. The other car will park on
the street.
Amy said she saw the changes as relatively small and she is comfortable
moving forward but it is up to HPC to decide.
John said at final the siding on the front portion should differentiate a little
more from the historic resource.
Sallie also agreed that it should be a modern take on the horizontal board.
Vice-chairperson, Willis Pember opened the public hearing. There were no
public comments. The public hearing was closed.
Willis identified the issues:
Variances
Change to mass and scale
Duplex connection
RDS’s build to lot line
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Willis said the conditions in the resolution ask for further study of the east
addition staircase and the elimination of that entrance. The applicant has
agreed to that condition. The changes to the massing are subtle and this is a
great site plan and a huge improvement over what is there now. The
restoration efforts are commendable. Applying zinc to the garage and the
new residence is a little confusing but overall this project can go forward.
Willis said he would accept the resolution and the amendment by Amy a 15
foot combined setback with the result being a duplex.
John said this is a great site plan and project and I am in favor of the
resolution.
Sallie said she supports John and Willis’s comments.
Nora said she is excited that the house is not being moved and supports the
resolution.
Sallie said the dormer separates the old Victorian from the new house.
Jim agreed with Sallie and the applicant has done a terrific job.
MOTION: Willis moved to adopt resolution #1 as written with the fourth
bullet being changed to reflect Amy’s initial statement regarding the duplex
and the combined 15 yard setback that kicks in resulting it being a duplex.
A four foot reduction of the rear yard for the new unit and you are typically
allowed an 18 inch architectural projection for that dormer.
Amy said the dormer goes a little further into the setback. Amy
recommended a statement be added to the resolution that a rear yard setback
reduction of four feet above and below grade for the new unit and the
projecting dormer is approved. An additional approximate one foot
projection for the dormer is also approved. Motion second by Jim.
Jim, yes; Sallie, yes; Nora, yes; John, Yes, Willis, yes. Motion carried 5-0.
Election:
Jim nominated Willis as chair, second by John. All in favor.
Nora nominated Jim as Vice-chair, second by John. All in favor.
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Lot 2, 202 N. Monarch St. Subdivision – Conceptual Major
Development and Residential Design Standards Variances, Public
Hearing
Nora recused herself.
Bill Guth, owner said he has no issue with Sallie sitting on the board for his
agenda item.
Debbie Quinn said the affidavits of public notice and they are in order and
notice was appropriately provide. Exhibit I.
Amy said this is a 6,000 square foot lot that was once part of the larger
property referred as the Blue Vic. The Blue Vic lot is zoned R-6 and these
two lots are zoned mixed use. The applicant had the option of developing
this as a commercial type site or residential and they went the residential
route. They are proposing a duplex and the property is vacant. Staff has
applied all the standards to the project and we find that they are met and
recommend approval as designed. The RDS’s also apply and the one
needing discussion is secondary mass. Whenever you build a new duplex
you are supposed to have a primary mass and a secondary mass. To meet
that standard the two units on the site can be hooked together but the linking
piece is basically to be 10x10 and it is 20 x 10 in this proposal. Staff
recommends approval because we feel this project still very much creates
the primary/secondary detached feeling between the two units. They have
broken down the mass in a way that is very successful. The fact that the link
is wider we don’t feel anyone can tell. The overall is that there is air space
between these two units. This is pushed as far away from the historic
resource as possible and it relates more to the commercial development that
is happening in the Jerome Professional Bldg. The scale is more of a
modern form and it fits in perfect. Staff is recommending approval as
designed.
Joseph Speers, S2 architects
Bill Guth, developer
Joseph said from the beginning we wanted to push our development away
from the Victorian as possible. The addition which is a garage and an ADU
above is placed as far to the east as possible with a driveway separation. We
tried to relate to the Jerome professional building and keep the mass as low
as possible. We tried to do a mix of brick and darker brownish wood siding
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to help blend into the red brick of the Hotel Jerome and the brownish light
pink of the Blue Vic. We pushed a substantial mass to the back of the
property and keep the front of the property very quaint and small.
Willis asked about the size of the units.
Joseph said Unit A is 4,600 gross square footage and Unit B is 1,683.
Bill said we are requesting a variance for the link Because of the steep
slopes of the site we have to do the garage a full story below the main level
of this house.
Joseph said you don’t get much credit for a garage that is in a subgrade
space. The garages have to come off the alley.
Vice-chair, Willis Pember opened the public hearing.
Patrick asked if the alley was vacated originally.
Amy said there is an historic alley that runs between the new home that Tim
Semerau did and Phil Hodgson next door and there was discussion where the
garages should go. The historic alley did not get vacated but they were not
permitted to use it. Instead the Blue Vic and this house has to come off the
extension of the lower portion of the alley.
Vice-chair Willis Pember opened the public hearing. There were no public
comments. The public hearing portion of the agenda item was closed.
Willis identified the issue
RDS’s – secondary mass waiver
Jim said he find the application straight forward and would support staff’s
recommendation.
Willis suggested a 3 dimensional mass for final.
Sallie said this proposal is very sympathetic to the Blue Vic and the
architecture is very comparable to the neighborhood.
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Willis said they should be commendable for picking the smallest
development option.
MOTION: Jim moved to approve resolution #2, 2015 granting conceptual
approval for the variance from secondary mass with the conditions
recommended by staff; second by John.
Roll call vote: Jim, yes; Sallie, yes; John, yes; Patrick, yes; Willis, yes;
Motion carried 5-0.
MOTION: Willis moved to adjourn; second by Jim. All in favor, motion
carried.
Meeting adjourned at 6:30 p.m.
Kathleen J. Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk