HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.20150225 ASPEN HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 25, 2015
Chairperson, Willis Pember called the meeting to order at 5:00 p.m.
Commissioners in attendance were John Whipple, Bob Blaich, Jim
DeFrancia and Patrick Sagal. Absent were Nora Berko, Sallie Golden and
Gretchen Greenwood.
Staff present:
Debbie Quinn, Assistant City Attorney
Amy Simon, Preservation Planner
Cindy Klob, Records Manager
MOTION: Jim moved to approve the minutes of February 1 Ith second by
Bob. All in favor, motion carried.
Commissioner Comments
Patrick said the purpose and intent of the h-istoric preservation commission is
to ensure~the preservation of Aspen's character as an historic mining town,
early ski resort and cultural center and retain the historic architectural and
cultural resource attractions that support tourism and economic welfare of
the community.
Recognize and protect and promote the retention and continued utility of the
historic buildings and districts.. Promote awareness and appreciation of
Aspen's unique heritage. Encourage sustainable reuse of historic structures
and encourage voluntary efforts to increase public information, interaction
and access to historic building interiors.
Disclosure of Conflict of Interest
Debbie said the second agenda item is a negotiation for AspenModern which
involves a property that is in the family of one of the HPC members. The
family will be appearing. Our ethical rules allow for that application to
come before you with the HPC member present. Each member needs to be
free from bias on both sides in connection with judging of the application
and to judge by the criteria of the code. If none of you indicate that your
relationship with the applicant or applicant's family is such that you can't be
fair and impartial you would say so.
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Willis asked the members if they feel they can review the application
without conflict and in an unbiased way. All members replied they could
review the application and be fair.
Jim disclosed that he has a business relationship with CCY in Basalt but that
in no way impairs his ability to judge the 229 W. Smuggler or 211 E.
Hallam.
Willis disclosed that he knows Howie and Nora socially but can be unbiased
and fair. Willis also said he teaches students from UCD with Harry Teague
and he has a long standing relationship with Harry but can be unbiased and
impartial in reviewing his work.
John said he know the Mallory's son Lyndon and he can be fair and
impartial. John also said he worked on a project with bluegreen, Valerie
Yaw and there is no monetary incentive that could persuade him.
Patrick said he only knows Nora from the HPC board and will look at the
project from the guidelines.
229 W. Smuggler / 426 N. Second — Final Major Development, Public
Hearing
Debbie reviewed the public notice affidavits that were provided and it
appears that notice has been appropriately given.
Affidavit of Notice Exhibit C
New elevations Exhibit D
Amy said staff is very happy with the progression of this project and
recommends.approval with conditions.
1. Condition has revised setbacks
2. When the building is excavated for the new basement there are certain
insurances that should be provided.
3. There is a stone foundation on the Victorian house on the site and it is
pained. The applicant will use the stone as a veneer for their new
foundation. The discussion is whether they can get the paint off the
stone's surface. Staff is recommending that it be stripped or flipped.
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Staff and monitor will work with the contractor to determine a
reasonable solution during construction.
4. Images in the memo show the railing around the porch deck not to be
original. Staff would like the plans proposed to be revised to replicate
the original design of the railing on the porch deck.
5. The steps leading up to the front porch are not original. We are
recommending that the re-design show the full width of the stair.
6. Staff is asking that a hand rail not be installed on the stairs to the front
porch because that is a change in look of the front porch.
7. There is an unusual pattern in the gable end where there. are striped
fish scale clapboards. We would like the applicant to retain that
original design that is show in the older photographs.
8. Window replacement— The applicant wants to replace all the
windows and that is not in keeping with the HPC guidelines that ask
fist for an effort-to improve their efficiencies and reduce air
infiltration and replace glazing and putty. Staff will inspect each
window with the architect and contractor during construction process
and review and approve a treatment approach for each window with
the project monitor. There may be some that are not original and not
repairable.
9. We need to know what the flashing will be. Is it painted or
galvanized. We also need to see gutters and down spouts.
10. We need a new drawing of the chimney as it is drawn larger than it is.
1 l.On the new additions that are directly on the Victorian; side addition
on the e4st and a dormer on the back. The applicant showed them
sided with wood but roofed with metal. Staff would like-the wood .
shingles so that they don't stick out so much from the historic
architecture.
12. There is a large opening, a door that is proposed on the back of the
Victorian. It is in an area that has already been disturbed and there
will be a hole left when the non-historic duplex unit is taken off but
the opening is to be enlarged for a new door and we need discussion
about what that would be.
13.The historic house and the detached house would have a trellis
connecting them in the back yard with a retractable awning. We
would like to see that deleted as it takes away from the detached
layout of the project that was'approved at conceptual.
14.This is a request for a sample of the zinc material. This material has
not be used on a project in Aspen before as a siding and roofing. HPC
needs to be comfortable with the possible reflectivity of it.
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15.A detailed landscape plan includes work in the city right-of-way.
Anything that is un-necessary in the ROW should be removed. No
private pathway lighting should be in the right-of-way. Minimize the
pathways themselves. Be careful with perennial plantings so that they
do not mess with the roots of the cottonwoods. They also do not want
a lot of water going into that area. This can be worked out with the
applicant and the Parks Department.
16.The landscape plan shows a stone curb that follows the property line.
We feel the Victorian landscape was much more informal. We
suggest that be removed from the plan.
17.Along with the architectural restudy of the front steps of the front
porch the landscape plan may need some adjustment.
18.There is path lighting in front of the Victorian and in general HPC has
not wanted that in front of a Victorian because it is the kind of lighting
that wasn't there originally. We prefer the porch light to provide
adequate lighting.
Mitch Haas, Haas Land Planning
John Schenk, CCY architects
Valerie Yaw, bluegreen
John said he feels they have nicely adjusted the drawings for approval. The
house was built in 1888. The new owner desires to invigorate the historic
house. The Victorian is staying in its same spot. The site plan is quite
porous and you can see through to the alley. We will be fixing baseboards,
corner boards and windows. We will roof the immediate addition with
shingles. We are showing a handrail on one side of the widened steps. We
believe code requires a handrail. We want to keep what historic windows
are there but they are in bad shape and we will work with staff and monitor
to make whatever needs to be done happen. The trellis between the garage
and new unit A has been removed. The material MB zinc is a natural
product and weathers nicely and doesn't become shiny. We are using a solid
version and a perforated version (sample). The addition of the dormer roof
has been changed to shingles so it matches the addition to the east. We
have kept the large glass opening on the south side of the Victorian and we
feel it is in a location that is not seen from the street. The opening gives you
the opportunity to see into the historic building as it currently exists. On the
materials we are using weathered zinc (sample). The material of the large
glass opening is attached outwardly to the clapboard siding and we are not
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proposing the sun shade. We will look at removing stain from the outside
stone but that might be difficult.
Valerie Yaw showed the site plan drawings. This property sits opposite to.
Triangle Park. Landscape is art and it is an important piece to our fabric.
There is a strong presence of the cottonwoods. The northeast corner has
extraordinary views. When you are on the front porch you feel like Triangle
Park is part of your experience. Planted joints and pavers will be
incorporated. The curb is from public to private. Perennials come back
every year. A significant portion of the property will remain in sod. The
path to the front porch-will be a simple path made of natural stone
historically. The expanded risers are a much better solution. Keeping the
views open is part of our fabric. A low green mass would balance the
objective of preserving the resource. In the front we have proposed a
modest garden, shrub and perennials and low grasses to the street. The
Dowler's have two dogs as we studied the option of the curb because it
would allow them to keep the dogs contained and provide a visual view
without doing a 42 inch fence. There is a history of a fence on the property.
A low curb would be a welcoming threshold to keep this park like
environment. The breakfast nook is on the east side of the property. You
come out to an elevated landing walk down three risers to a planted joint
stone patio. Stone is an enduring material and is both old and new and if we
can reuse the material on-site that is a possibility.
New construction: The landscape path is simple and straight forward. We
will simplify the right-of-way. The experience of moving to the interior
courtyard is through a small slip off the new construction. There is a low
wall and you move through that. The courtyard is pavers with planted joints
and includes a couch, coffee table and a fire feature. There is a concrete
apron the meets the garage and extends to the east to the trash and recycling.
We have reduced the lighting in the right-of-way that Amy suggested. We
,would like to keep one ballard at the property line for a single light along the
length of the path. That area is very dark. Overall we have eliminated 5
light features from the project.
John said condition #3 regarding the stone we would like to work with staff.
We are not sure whether we can strip it or not. #4 is the porch railing.
Amy said we are asking them to replicate the historic railing.
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John said we are ok with #4 condition. John said #5 we are conforming to.
John said regarding #6 the Bldg. Dept. will require a handrail etc. We can
work with staff on condition #7, #8, #9. John said the chimney diagram has
been corrected in the packet. Condition #12 is the opening to the rear and it
is less visible than other parts of the house. With the opening the house
would have a much more livability front to back connection and we would
prefer to keep the same size opening both in detail and in form.
Willis said we can discuss #12.
John said #13 and#14 are complied with.
Valerie said on #15 we struck all the right-of-way lighting but kept a path
light at the front door.
Amy said #15 can say work with the forester on acceptable perennials in the
right-of-way.
Valerie asked that #16 be removed because they would like the curb to be
approved. #18 needs modified.
Willis commented that a dog fence doesn't require anything that is visible
but is an alternative to doing a 42 inch high fence.
John said they feel the curb is a public to private delineation. The curb
would be a stone product.
Valerie said when we strip the paint off the sandstone and cannot be
reinstalled that would be a great material to use. A stone natural product
could also be used.
John said using the stone foundation from the house would work well.
John Whipple said presently there are no street curbs on Smuggler.
Jim said he agrees with the comments made except for the path lighting. He
has no problem with that lighting as it can get dark in that area.
Bob said he lives in a similar house and if he didn't have path lighting it
would be a liability issue. The West End is dark and all the Victorians in
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the area have path lighting. Who monitors awnings and lighting five years
down the road?
Amy said if it was a previous approval the city would do some kind of
enforcement.
Debbie said the Building Dept. has specific regulations and HPC cannot
over ride them.
John Whipple said since this is a curb less street this is a nice feature and a
good delineation. -I am in favor of all the conditions. On condition #12 the
opening is a good way to express the interior to the exterior and it is in an
appropriate location in the back of the house.
Patrick said the reduced glazing is OK. The historic Victorian goes from
street to grass to building and putting a curb in there will change it
significantly from how it has been historically. I am not in favor of 24 inch
light sticks. The unified roof and siding of the addition creates the
appearance of greater mass. It needs to be broken up either with different
colors or materials.
Willis said since we don't need to elevate so much to reduce risers at the
porch to make it one riser height six or 7 inches would be preferable as 12
inches is impactful.
Willis said the only disagreements between the board are the path light, curb
and continuous roof and siding.
Straw poll: Path lighting approved. Possibly do in ground flush lights.
Straw poll: Curb, one riser approved.
Straw poll: Roof and siding approved as is.
Amy clarified all the conditions which were agreeable by the board.
MOTION: Jim moved to approve resolution #9 with the conditions
delineated by staff, second by Willis.
Willis said on condition #10 the historic photo should be used as a reference
that show the steps without a cap to be approved by staff and monitor.
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Clarification: Valerie said on the perennials it would be good if the board
had a comment on perennials vs Kentucky blue grass as the appropriate
right-of-way solution.
Debbie said the condition is up to the forester because of the roots of the
trees.
John Whipple said he is for the perennials if a watering system can be
worked out. Jim agreed.
Willis said we are approving the landscape plan as part of the vote.
Roll call vote: Jim, yes; Bob, yes; John, yes; Patrick, no; Willis, yes.
Motion carried 4-1.
Jim will be the monitor.
211 E. Hallam —AspenModern Negotiation for Voluntary Designation,
Conceptual Major Development, On-Site Relocation and Variances,
Public Hearing
Debbie said the notice of affidavit is in order and the applicant can proceed,
Exhibit I.
Exhibit II, new elevations
Amy said the review is for an AspenModern negotiation for historic
designation of 211 E. Hallam and a major redevelopment. There was a
subdivision on the 12,000 square foot lot and it was divided in half. The
6,000 square foot lot is under HPC purview and has a studio on the lot.
Nothing has ever been done to say that the studio has historic significance.
If it was proposed to be demolished HPC would review that but it hasn't
been a contributing resource and so the applicant is voluntarily offering
designation under AspenModern.
The first discussion is whether the studio should be AspenModern
designation worthy. This property has an interesting history. Mr. Berko put
Aspen on the map in 1949. With AspenModern negotiation the applicant
can ask council for things that are needed for the success of the project.
After conceptual it will go to council and then back to HPC for final review.
At council they will discuss waiver of the building permit fees, waiver of
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impact fees. There are a number of large trees on the property. All can be
removed except the one in the south east corner back along the alley. The
applicant will be applying for a tree permit removal for that tree. As a
recommendation HPC should not be discussing the tree as that decision is
involving the Parks Dept. and Council. The applicant will be presenting
without the tree. If they do not get approval to remove the tree they will
come back for conceptual.
This is a 6,000 square foot lot with the studio structure on the alley. The
applicant has the right to do a duplex and that is their plan. They are
proposing to have them touch but they have the option to make them two
detached structure and still conform with zoning. By choosing a duplex
program that allows 360 more floor area than a single family home. It also
allows one additional garage stall of 250 sq.ft. to be exempt from the floor
area. The applicant is also asking for the 500 square foot bonus. The
project as proposed has 1,110 square feet more gross floor area then is
allowed as a standard. At the work session HPC seemed to embrace the idea
that the studio could be lifted up, rotated and put on the front of the site. If
this is done we'are losing a substantial amount of original material and it
would be a character change. The family lived in the house and the studio
was an accessory unit. The building would be picked up, turned, making it a
street facing building and demolishing some of the existing materials. Staff
can get behind this but it clearly has to be justifiable. The biggest issues is
how the old and new connect.
Amy did a power point on different connectors throughout town. There are
a number of guidelines that have not been met with this project. Staff
suggested totally detaching the units from each other. Staff said there is a
problem with the two story volume added directly to the studio. Staff
recommends continuation to re-design the addition to either create a
connector or,somehow separate the two pieces. Staff does not feel the FAR
bonus is warranted. There are also setback variances being requested. The
RDS's require a secondary mass and the applicant is requesting a variance as
we feel that should not be granted until there is some improvement with the
connector. The applicant has a new front door into the studio that is too far
back from the street for the RDS's and we feel that should be restudied.
Applicant:
Nora Berko
Harry Teague
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Philip Jeffries
Mirte Malory
Howie Malory
Stan Clauson
Nora said she grew up in this property and her father, Ferenc Berco had the
studio built in 1964 by Ted Mylarz. The structure had to be beautiful,
simple and affordable. Those are the same values that lead us on our
journey. The studio was a gathering place for participants in the design
conference, music festival and institute. They came here to talk and get
photographed and all the images were developed and printed here. We have
engaged in the AspenModern by choice. When the lot split was done I
chose the studio because it was unprotected. The studio would be a great
example of AspenModern and giving our family the opportunity for multi-
generational living. It would be a Senior center for us and a home for our
children. I have seen this neighborhood empty out into second homes. We
want to keep life in the West End year round. We have lived on the property
for almost 60 years. We have several thresholds in conflict with the HPC
guidelines and we recognize that. One is livability. Livability and
marketability are two different measures. Our standards align with the
Aspen Community Plan and with the housing we want to create a place for
two families to live year round and be active participants in the community.
We want to reuse the existing structure, build green and generate energy.
Regarding transportation we want to be able to walk, bike and have access to
RFTA. We also want the town to have a healthy mix of ages. We are
attached to the studio and hope to see it celebrated on Hallam St. as an
AspenModern.
Mirte said Ferenc Berko's photographs and his life career as a photographer
were international. It was the dedication to form, line and shape that lead
him to be recognized as one of the pioneers of black and white photography.
His work is collected in major museums and at international exhibitions:
Architecture has always been a part of his vision and photography. It has
been my honor to keep the collection alive. We have maintained a dark
room in the studio today. The studio is different than other projects that
HPC has seen because it has a public interface.
Howie said they had family discussions about what is the right thing to do
with the property. We came up with two straight forward objectives. First
the creation of a multi-generation primary residence duplex which would
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consist of the renovated studio and a new duplex residence connected to the
studio in the rear, the senior housing. The second objective was to
landmark the studio and keep the Berko archive here in Aspen. We are here
to talk about the livability of the project not the marketability. The studio
and the two units should have an abundant access to natural daylight. We
don't want to live in shadows. We want to have above grade living. We
also want to have affordable construction with basic non-custom materials in
the Bauhaus style that are energy efficient. We want to take advantage of
the lots natural southern exposure. The senior center would have minimal
level changes. We believe this is a proper and successful AspenModern
project.
Philip Jeffries said the project lines up nicely with the Victorian. The bay
window has always faced the interior of the site. We tried to come up with a
scenario that balances the preservation and livability. The spirit of the studio
,is driven by its form and that form needs space around it. The inside of the
studio comes to life with the display of light. We need to keep light coming
into the studio from both sides. The further we moved the studio forward
the more breathing room it had. Philip went over some of the designs they
worked on. One unit is in the studio and the other duplex behind.
Harry said the studio is key to the history of Aspen which needs preserved
and celebrated in an appropriate way. The family is also key. The guidelines
were created for a different era and a different style of architecture. The
resource would move to the front of the property and spin 180 degrees and
what that does is make the resource visible so that it is seen. There is public
activity associated with this building. The entrance and the way it addresses
the street is very important. We want to create an addition to the studio that
creates an entrance from the street. We would build a new foundation out of
cinder block and would have exactly the same appearance as it has now. On
the back side we would have a slight modification of extending the porch for
a deck and changing fenestration in the kitchen with the addition of a little
window. You basically look right,throw this building and making a glass
enclosure connector in the center would-prevent you from seeing through the
building. We are creating a new entrance from a non-functional part of the
building. The building in the back is a two story structure. Regarding the
parking two are connected to the senior housing (duplex) in back and the
other on the side.
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On the secondary building the master bedroom is on the second floor. It is
our intent to create a setback of forms and we gradually increase the
program and mass as you step further back. The south elevation is on the
alley and we are providing a space for two cars attached to the senior
housing and there is a back entrance from the alley side. There is also a
single car garage that serves the studio on the alley. The front door of the
senior housing faces the street. There is an upper element over the front
door. There are two front doors for the duplex from the street. The mass
of the building is on the west side and it is opened up to the south east so
that gardens, vegetables can be grown in this area. We are utilizing the
building collage concept with a dark element over a light element in color.
Harry said they have done several projects not by connector additions. The
new architecture was attached directly to the old buildings.
Mirte said we hope that you will look at this project in the spirit of
Modernism and not Victorianism. We have also talked with Ted Mularz, the
original architect for the studio and he is in support of this project. Our
neighbors are also in support of our project.
Willis said this is an exciting project for our community. It is clear that the
studio is a living archive with its own front door and the senior housing is a
separate residence.
Mirte said the studio is a separate family residence for our siblings.
Bob asked about the traffic to the archive.
Mirte said it depends on what is happening with publications. Requests
weekly. It is not a heavy traffic area but I work there daily.
Willis said with the archive facing the street one would think you would
have more exposure and more traffic.
Patrick said in trying not to have the two story over the historic resource
taking the bedroom and putting it on the east side and moving the garage up
and putting the double garage west so you have a U. That way you would
have a view through the building all the way back to the alley.
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Harry said they explored numerous options. Eventually you are going to
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have a two story structure behind the resource and that would block the view
to Aspen Mountain. Moving this to one side and having a two story element
to one side fit the idea of the collage.
'Mirte said moving it over would impact the studio twice and our goal is to
have as little impact as possible. That would also require a driveway.
John said the structure is intertwined with the use of it and the public
amenity of being able to visit. Are there any kind of guarantees down the
road that this will be maintained as the archive and public amenity?
Mirte said the indication is that we want to keep it here. .There is a large
amount of material that needs preserved. It is our intent to preserve the
archive and keep it here as much as possible.
Jim complimented the applicant on their thoroughness and evaluation of
alternatives. It is an asset for our community. I agree with continuance and
studying the separation and clarifying the setbacks.
Chairperson, Willis Pember opened the public hearing.
Bill Stirling said all of the AspenModern presentations have been unique.
With the structure being moved Aspenites will see this structure. Bringing it
forward makes a lot of sense. By shifting it over to the left they have
eliminated the bustle look. Mixed uses have been going on in the West End.
If you designate it, it stays there.
Scott Ride said he and his partner bought the original Berko home. We are
looking forward to restoring the Victorian. This will be a unique property
with the Victorian and AspenModern studio right beside it. What makes
Aspen great is that we embrace many styles. We applaud what is trying to
be accomplished here and we are working together. Shortly we will be in
front of the HPC.
Phyllis Bronson, said the building is aesthetically beautiful. It captures the
simplicity of Ferenc Berko's photography. Having a multi-generational
project and seeing lights on in the West End permanently is compelling.
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David Hyman said this is a beautiful presentation. The project will be such
an amenity to the community as it draws the 40, 50, 60's into the present
day. I have heard no negative comments and it preserves the old studio and
enhances it with the view to the mountain. I am total support and hope the
HPC passes it.
Exhibit III - Amy said e-mails or letters were sent to the HPC from Ted
Mularz, Aspen Institute, David Floria, Aspen Community Church, Linda
Bump, Jess Bates.and Phil Hodgson.
Chairperson, Willis Pember closed the public hearing.
Applicant rebuttal:
Stan said the required site coverage is 50% and this meets that requirement
at 44%. ,In the packet there were extensive alternatives that have been
discussed. Staff did not provide a resolution because additional study is
being recommended. If the HPC feels there is enough presented staff could
prepare a resolution based on the application presented.
Willis identified the issues:
Designation of an AspenlVModern resource
Re-siting of the historic resource
Setback variances
RDS's — secondary mass
Willis agreed with everything that the public commented on. Itis clear that
the massing has to go to one side or the other. What we are asked to review
is a one dimensional requirement, a one-story ten foot connector to separate
the old from the new. The project is beautifully done and it is good
architecture but it doesn't meet the narrow guideline for a connector. I can
get behind everything else but the connector.
Patrick also said he has concerns with the connector.
Bob said the concern is the connector entry. I have no problem with the
design. The family wants to keep the usage on this property. How you
solve the access is the issue. With the double entry they both face the street
and they both have different functions and the solution is acceptable.
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Jim said he agrees with staff to restudy the connector and clarify the
setbacks. The basic design is good.
John said he understands the uses of the West End and hopes that they
continue in the future. He also understand staff's position and the family's
needs. This is a tremendous resource and possibly we can re-interpret the
guideline for AspenModern architecture. The project is well thought out.
MOTION: Jim moved to continue 211 E. Hallam to March 25th; second by
Patrick.
Roll call vote: Jim, yes; John, no; Patrick, yes; Bob, no; Willis, yes. Motion
carried 3-2.
Jim said the design is terrific and the continuation is to allow staff to study
the separation connector issue and clarify the setbacks.
Amy said staff is not suggestion the project start over and they are not
suggesting it has to be a one story ten foot long connector. It could be just a
little more in alignment as to how it is connected. We are open to some
flexability and it is not identical to every other case.
MOTION: Willis moved to adjourn; second by Jim. All in favor, motion
carried.
Meeting adjourned at 8.30 m.
Kathleen Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk
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