HomeMy WebLinkAboutcclc.min.061902 COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION
Chairperson, Bill Dinsmoor called the meeting to order at 8:30 a.m.
Commissioners present: Terry Butler, Eric Cohen, Andrew Kole, Charles Kennedy,/Ion
Busch. John Start was excused.
Jeff Isaacson, owner of Italian Ice requested to sell smoothies and regular coffee at the
Saturday market. A smoothie is a melted down Italian ice. He does not want to compete
with Zele. He uses the produce that the farmers have. He intends to use the fresh fruit of
the day.
Terry said she feels five cups of coffee in the monfing will not hurt existing businesses.
Charles said we need more vitality at the market and he is thinking the board should be
less restrictive.
Andrew pointed out that Zele pays rent and he respects in-town businesses.
Eric said Jeff is already grand fathered in the market. If he was a new applicant it might
be difficult due t° the fact that other businesses in town have ice products.
Jon said if someone wanted to sell cotton candy because that isn't cpmpeting.
Andrew said ifZele wasn't on the comer he might have a different view. You can buy a
cup of regular coffee at Zele and then go to the market.
Terry said we are always concerned about the retail in town. She was hoping that the
Saturday market would be more vibrant. If Zele doesn't have a problem with Jeff selling
coffee she could agree.
Bill said the farmers market was competing with a national event this past week. To
expect it anything more than what it was is not realistic.
Andrew said he would like this tabled and requested that Zele come to the next meeting,
Jeff said he would be glad to talk to Zele.
Applicant - Hattie Billings said she makes bags, rags, pillows, some jewelry etc. She
also has a hand crafted wooden plant stands that she would like to sell in her booth. Her
products are very inexpensive, The board accepted Hattie's application.
.Arya Campbell said her clothing is mostly made by her and the fabric is from Nepal.
Some clothing is made by her friends and associates in Nepole.
Andrew said he would not accept the products made in Nepole. The board admitted
Arya to the market with the condition that nothing be sold that was made in Nepole and
not by Arya.
Thunberbowl Caf6, Scott Franklin presented pies, tarts, tortes. His intent is to advertise
the caf~ and try to make it better known. They would like to take orders for a take home
lunch and have large picnic baskets that ideally they would like to do for people who are
on the bus going to the Maroon Bells. They have just started doing deliveries. They
would like to sell the box lunches to those going on fly-fishing trips etc.
Andrew said if Louis Swiss who is ~'and fathered in the market, says it is ok with them
for Thunderbowl to sell pies etc. he would have no problem.
Scott said the box lunches are not for consumption onsite.
Eric said there is no difference in a box then on a plate. He said if it was pre-registered
he could accept this. The pies and pastries are not on-site consumption items.
Jon said he draws a differentiation and in this case it is a pre-packaged meal which is
what you would take hiking. He could have his picnic basket there and rake orders.
Scott said he would not be taking money at the market. Scott then demonstrated the
picnic basket. He said they would need a twelve-hour lead time.
Parking: Andrew said it was his understanding that the parking spaces behind City Hall
could be used for unloading and loading and then the cars need moved.
Kathy Strickland, Chief Deputy clerk relayed that the 1013, 200 and 300 block of Spring
Street is free parking on the east side. It is also free on the south side of Main Street in
front of St. Mary's church. Tim Ware, parking director relayed that they cannot give free
parking to the vendors of the market.
Eric suggested that a memo be sent out to the vendors regarding the free parking options.
Bill mentioned re-supplying and could she go out to the truck and drive it back in the
alley and unload and how does one re-supply.
Eric said we should want anyone driving back in the barricade areas.
Music:
Bill went over the criteria for noise variances. Amplified music is approved by a special
events permit and you can only get four a year.
Bill said music that is outside the defined area of the farmers market has to conform to
the noise ordinance. Inside there are looser regulations,
Brad Carter, owner of Gracy's said if it could save money the vendors could use Gracy's
restrooms.
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Bill said the farmers market group feels that the music on Gracy's property is not farmer
market music because of the ordinance and where it is.
Andrew made the motion to recommend to city council to approve the music during the
farmers market period of time presented by Gracy's; second by Charles. The music
would be on the street unless it is occupied. Amplified music cannot start before l 1:00
a.m. and it was suggested that the music start from noon to 3:00 p.m. due to the cooking
demonstration.
Karen said if the music is in the street we need to have a canopy. Bill said Jack D'Orio
needs to be involved with the music issues. Staffrelayed that we need to be aware of
wedding being held at St. Mary's church and the music cannot interfere with the
weddings. Staffwill contact St. Mary's regarding the wedding schedule.
Eric said the music should start up as soon as possible after the food demonstration to
take advantage of the people them.
Bill said if there are complaints Gracy's must handle it.
Jori said the neighbors are the farmer market people and if the music is too loud and you
half to yell then it needs to be addressed. Bill suggested that Brad and Karen be aware of
the decibel levels in the code.
Commissioner comments:
Jon requested that the police department be made aware of the neon signs that are in
violation of the sign code. Possible those officers who work in the evening and check the
different establishments.
Jon and other board members made the observation that the public mstrooms are nice but
the building is of a massive scale. The drawings that were represented were smaller.
Bill moved to adjourn; second by Ten'y. All in favor, motion carried.
Meeting adjourned at 11:00 a.m.
Kathleen J. Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk
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