HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.apz.20151201Regular Meeting Minutes Planning & Zoning Commission December 1, 2015
Mr. Walterscheid called the Planning & Zoning Commission (P&Z) meeting to order at 4:30 PM with
members Kelly McNicholas Kury, Jasmine Tygre, Brian McNellis, Keith Goode, Spencer McNight and Ryan
Walterscheid present. Jason Elliott, Skippy Mesirow, and Jesse Morris were not present for the meeting.
Also present from City staff; James True, Jennifer Phelan and Hillary Seminick.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Ms. McNicholas Kury asked staff if they were aware of the upcoming developer’s presentation this
upcoming Thursday at the Limelight regarding Lift One. Ms. Phelan stated some staff did receive
invitations and thought a couple of Staff may attend. She added an application has not been submitted.
Mr. McNight asked it would be appropriate for P&Z commissioners to attend the presentation. Mr. True
recommends the commissioners not attend because it may raise questions and could possibly place a
commissioner in a position that someone may argue the commissioner prejudged an application and
attained information outside of the process.
STAFF COMMENTS:
There were no comments.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
There were no comments.
MINUTES – November 17, 2015
Mr. Goode moved to approve the minutes for October 20th and was seconded by Mr. McNight. All in
favor, motion passed.
DECLARATION OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST
There were no declarations.
Lot 1 Pitkin Reserve Sub – Residential Design Standard Variance –
Continued Hearing from November 3, 2015
Mr. Walterscheid opened the continued public hearing and turned the floor over to staff.
Ms. Hillary Seminick, Planner with the Community Development Department, noted this was hearing for
a residential design standard variance for Lot 1 in the Pitkin Reserve Subdivision. She displayed an image
as shown in Figure B of the packet depicting the location of the lot bound by the Roaring Fork River and
Rio Grande Trail to the south and the Pitkin County, Aspen City limit boundary immediately to the north.
Ms. Seminick continued stating the applicant is requesting this variance to allow for the front door to be
recessed more than 10 ft from the front most façade of the structure. The residential design standard
requires the front door to be no more than 10 ft behind the front most façade of a structure. This is the
only variance under consideration for the hearing.
She displayed an image as shown in Figures E and F on p 16 of the packet demonstrating the design and
perspective of the proposed front door which will be set back about 20 ft.
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She noted the application meets all other relevant design standards including the front porch.
She displayed the criteria for a residential design standard variance and noted the criteria must take into
consideration the neighborhood context or an unusual site-specific constraint.
She then stated lot one is the furthest west lot within the Pitkin Reserve Subdivision and indicated this
on an image of the subdivision plat (Figure C, p 15). She noted the greenbelt line specified on the plat
which was established in the planned development in order to protect the Rio Grande Corridor from
encroaching development and is intended to remain in a natural condition. She noted the greenbelt line
trends away from the front lot line on Pitkin Way which is the road used to access the lots. The
greenbelt line is the closest to front lot line for lot one than the other lots on Pitkin Way. The greenbelt
line has since been removed from the plats for the subdivision, but it is the City’s position the line is still
effect even though it was replaced with building envelopes. She pointed out the building envelope is
above the greenbelt line. The greenbelt line results in a site-specific constraint where the building
envelope is pushed up against Pitkin Way. Ms. Seminick displayed an image of other structures in the
subdivision and noted the distances are 25-44 ft. The proposed 25 ft from the edge of the pavement for
the application is consistent with the neighborhood context.
Because of the building envelop constraints and the proposed front door distance as compared with
neighboring properties, Staff has determined the variance request is in context with the neighborhood
standard. Staff recommends P&Z approve the request for the residential design standard variance.
Ms. Phelan added typically unless a property or single family home or duplex is designated historic, the
applicant would just need to apply for a building permit as long as it meets the setbacks, height,
allowable floor area and residential design standards.
Mr. Walterscheid asked if there were any questions for Staff.
Mr. Walterscheid asked if there were any administrative variances granted. Ms. Seminick replied there
were none, however with the building envelope has been administratively adjusted. She displayed an
image of Figure G on p17 and described the adjustments made to the envelope.
Ms. McNicholas Kury asked if based on the proposed changes to the residential design standards from a
previous meeting, would this application be treated differently. Ms. Seminick stated potentially they
would be have been able to administratively approve the request under the proposed amendments. If
the applicant did not comply with the standard, they would have applied for an alternate compliance to
have the door set further back.
Mr. McNellis asked if there are other residences located further west. Ms. Seminick stated there are
residences further to the west located within Pitkin County. There are also residences to the north up on
Willoughby Way. Mr. Simon Elliott, applicant representative, stated there is one lot beyond the
applicant’s lot utilizing Pitkin Way for access. Ms. Seminick noted there is a public comment letter in
Exhibit E in the packet from the representative of the owner of the lot beyond the applicant’s lot.
Mr. Goode asked if this property currently has story poles. Ms. Seminick stated the Home Owners
Association (HOA) requires story poles for any new development in order to receive their approval. In
regards to height, they are required to stay under Willoughby Way and she believed there is a 25 ft
height limit. Mr. Elliott added the height is measured by finished grade.
Mr. Walterscheid asked staff to clarify if the neighbor’s objection as stated in the letter to the
application was in regards to height or the envelope adjustment. Ms. Phelan replied further information
would probably be available during the public comment portion of the hearing.
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Mr. Walterscheid then turned the floor over to the applicant.
Mr. Simon Elliot, CCY Architects, represents the applicant. Mr. Elliot believes they meet the
context of the neighborhood and they also feel the greenbelt line is a constraint forcing the
home closer to Pitkin Way. In regards to neighborhood context, he showed a slide of the existing
homes and discussed the distances to the front doors of the existing homes. In regards to the
greenbelt line, he displayed an image of the first amended plat of the Pitkin Reserve Subdivision
and noting the depth of the lot one as compared to the other lots. The applicant’s building
envelope depth is approximately 47 ft and the neighboring properties build up to over 90 ft.
Mr. Elliot stated he wanted to comment on the letter submitted by the neighbor. He then
pointed to the neighbor’s property on a displayed image and noted the property is accessed by
a 12 ft road access easement which goes by the face of the applicant’s property. He stated the
notation of a 20 ft easement in the letter is actually a utility easement and not the road
easement. The road is within the 12 ft easement.
In response to the letter discussing a footprint or that a house was previously located on the lot,
Mr. Elliot stated there is no indications there has ever been a house on the lot. He stated the
information described in the letter comes from a document that does not match the recorded
plat for the subdivision in that the road is coming in from a different direction, the lot lines are
laid out differently and the location of the road is in a different location. He discussed, but did
not submit the document as an exhibit to the hearing.
He then wanted to respond to a couple of points included in the letter:
Elevation – The letter states the house is 17 ft tall on the uninterrupted façade
facing Pitkin way. He stated it is actually 11 ft 9 in at its tallest point. He
displayed an elevation image and noted it may appear taller in another portion
of the building where it is pushed back further away from the road.
House location in regards to the road – The letter noted the house is 5 ft 8 in
from the road which is a distance at the property line. He stated the way the
road and easement comes through the property, there is a bit more room. He
showed a series of perspectives moving down the road to demonstrate the
house is not an obstruction to the road in any way. He also stated the road is
only used by those living at the end of the road and for maintenance of the
Pitkin Green’s wells.
Mr. Curt Sanders, representative for the applicant, stated the letter submitted indicated the
access road is 20 ft in width as it passes the house. It is reflected on plat as a 12 ft service road
easement. Subsequently there was an instrument recorded between Pitkin Reserve and Pitkin
Way which describes it as a 20 ft easement and the letter does not reference a following
agreement indicating the 20 ft easement reference was incorrect and noted it as a 12 ft
easement. The building envelope is the result of a planned unit development (PUD) amended
two or three times. He stressed it is a very constrained area for building.
Mr. Elliot added if this lot was in the standard R-30 zone district and not a PUD, the application
would have to respond to the property line setbacks. Since it was defined with a PUD, the
building envelope is used instead of setbacks.
Mr. Walterscheid asked if there were any questions for the applicant. No questions were
brought forward.
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Mr. Walterscheid then opened for public comment.
Mr. Mike Hoffman, represents the property owners at the end of the road, RoadsEnd LLC. He stated he
needs to meet with Mr. Sanders to discuss what easements exist across the property and agrees with
Mr. Sanders in that it is a heavily constrained site. Mr. Hoffman stated they had asked prior to the
previous hearing for the structure for the applicant to advantage of the east side of lot for the new
development at which the applicant responded it was too difficult and too far down the road. Mr.
Hoffman stated no matter what becomes of the easements, the property should respect its neighbors
and the fact the garage is within five and a half feet or less than 7 ft, it is clearly very close to the road.
Mr. Hoffman then pointed out the location RoadsEnd property and noted the area that had been
annexed into the City in the early 1980’s. The owner’s right to use the road was established in the 1984
plat and it was a 20 ft easement. Mr. Hoffman stated they had not yet looked at it to see if the road as it
currently exists and proposed improvements conflict with one another. Their complaint is that it is just
too close to the road. He feels the proposed dimensions reflect an urban setback from the road.
Mr. Hoffman stated the documents establishing the Pitkin Reserve subdivision and the easement
required his client to pay an equal share of the road maintenance cost. For purposes of paying these
costs, he is almost a member of the Pitkin Reserve Subdivision.
Mr. Hoffman stated they object to the proposed variance because it will allow the garage to exist too
close to the road. Mr. Hoffman then displayed a close up of the plat and described the proposed
location of the garage in respect to the road. He stated the variance would not be required if garage was
placed elsewhere on the lot. He asked P&Z to deny the request. Technically, the request does not meet
the standards and it is not consistent with the neighborhood. There is room on the eastern side of the
lot for a garage. He pointed out on an enlargement of the 1984 plat and noted there was hardscape
including a stairway leading up to the structure and a place to park a car. He also pointed to a turnout
which he states currently exists on the property.
Mr. Walterscheid then asked if the commissioners had questions.
Mr. McNellis asked Staff to confirm the variance requested pertains to the location of the front door and
if a variance is needed to build within an established setback. Ms. Seminick stated if they did not need a
design variance for the front door setback, they could have come in and applied for a building permit.
Mr. Walterscheid asked what exemptions were allowed to the applicant for setbacks regarding the front
facing façade. Ms. Seminick stated the property is outside the infill area so they are already exempt from
many residential design standards. She reiterated the only variance the applicant is seeking is the front
door.
Mr. Walterscheid stated it appears when the building envelope was adjusted, the setback lines were not
adjusted at which Ms. Seminick confirmed was true. She displayed the envelope as shown in Figure G
and described the adjustments made to the building envelope. She noted the survey is included in the
packet as Exhibit C.
Mr. Elliot stated the building envelope adjustments actually included a small movement further away
from Pitkin Way to prevent any development encroachment in the 20 ft sewer easement.
Ms. McNicholas Kury wanted to confirm if they had moved the front door closer to the road, the
variance would not be necessary. Staff confirmed this was correct.
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Mr. Elliot reiterated the slide displayed by Mr. Hoffman does not represent existing conditions. He
added the owner of the lot went through an approval process with the Pitkin Reserve HOA which
included the previous owner of the RoadsEnd property.
Ms. Phelan stated she had reviewed the design standards and noted on a private road a garage may be
forward and there is more leniency on its location. If it was a public road, the garage would have to be
setback from the façade. She reiterated this is a private road and the biggest issue is the location of the
front door in relation to the front façade of the building.
Mr. Sanders wanted to note the slide of the plat page presented by Mr. Hoffman does not represent the
page of the plat which shows the establishment of the easement. Other pages show Pitkin Way in
different locations and configurations. Mr. Hoffman recollected it was from the drainage plan on the
PUD and he was not relying on it to represent Pitkin Way. His point was the turn out does exist and
there is room on the side of the property for the garage.
Mr. Walterscheid then opened for commissioner’s discussion.
Mr. Goode understands the concern of the neighbor but does not have a problem with what the
applicant is requesting.
Mr. McNight feels the site constraints warrant the variance and because it came before P&Z, it opened
the door for the neighbor to voice their concerns. He does believe the commissioners can make a
decision on the neighbors’ concerns and feels the request is consistent with the neighborhood context.
Although it does not impact his decision, he is a bit concerned regarding the hearsay by the
representatives of both the applicant and the neighbor.
Ms. McNicholas Kury feels if there is disagreement regarding the legal mass and easements, it is not
P&Z’s role to adjudicate. She doesn’t feel denying the request offers any remedy for the neighbor’s
concerns. She feels the variance request meets the standards.
Ms. Tygre agrees with the other commissioners.
Mr. Walterscheid agrees P&Z is only reviewing the front door setback and does not have a problem with
the request.
Mr. Goode motioned to approve the request for a variance from the residential design standards as
described in resolution #21, series 2015. The motion was seconded by Ms. McNicholas Kury.
Mr. Walterscheid requested a roll call. Roll call vote: Mr. McNight, yes; Ms. McNicholas Kury, yes; Mr.
McNellis, yes; Mr. Goode, yes; Ms. Tygre, yes; and Mr. Walterscheid, yes. The motion passed with a total
six (6) yes – zero (0) no.
Mr. Walterscheid then closed the public hearing.
Mr. Walterscheid then adjourned the meeting.
Cindy Klob
City Clerk’s Office, Records Manager
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