HomeMy WebLinkAboutcoa.pz.gm.ag.19960716GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMISSION
SPECIAL MEETING
FIRE STATION MEETING
COMMISSIONERS
David Guthrie
Sara Garton
Shellie Harper
Susan Caskey
Roger Hunt
Tim Mooney
Kathy Tripodi
Alice Hubbard
Jasmine Tygre
Steve Whipple
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Cindy Houben
Meeting is being conducted in the fire station. The tape machine is not correctly working.
The meeting was called to order by Sara Garton.
Garton: I have a question regarding some of the conditions. If the applicant cannot meet some of
the conditions set forth in the memorandum, they do they proceed forward?
Houben: No, then they have no project. How would you like to proceed tonight?
Harper: I would like to score with conditions attached. If there are conditions attached, then I will
score differently.
Caskey: There are differences between conceptual versus detail. I think we should be sticking to a
more general overview.
Affordability to me needs to be met for the RO guidelines.
Garton: I am concerned with the RO guidelines as established today.
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Guthrie: I think you need to make it clear here today, if there is something you really want to see
in this application to make sure it gets through, you say so today. We are in conceptual and we
need to keep that in mind.
That is the direction I would like to proceed, and we can move on and score.
Houben: Code allows scoring then discussion and then re -scoring.
Hunt: Going over each item would be time consuming.
Baker: I would ask the growth management commission if I could make a small comment on each
one.
McBride: These are lots involved here in this application rather than finished units. We do not
have a lot of constraints on them. There are different versions of RO and it is difficult to
constrain.
house. We agree with the 4% cap forever and ever. We want the people to build an affordable
Mooney: The lot concept holds me back. The housing issues would be to allow people to
continually up grade their housing needs and move up. I do not believe this is doing that. There
should be turn over.
McBride: I disagree, the community does entail turnover and change. They are investing in the
community.
Hunt: RO is part of the affordable housing needs and jumps from category housing. This is a
permanent stock in the housing stock. Tying it to existing RO guidelines which does not consider
undeveloped lots is difficult. We know what we want philosophically. It is handy, but we do not
have this in this case.
The Housing Authority will have to develop this. The conformity level may not be
applicable to this project.
Caskey: You moved into whatever is going to be built here and the game is you buy into it and
then continue to move up. The demographics were different years ago and they are continual)
changing. Adamski did a study that the demographics have changed. There were commitments
and people were beginning to change and people were not raising their families here. They could
not make the leap into free market, we needed to acquire this type of housing now. We need to
keep people with families here. There has to be stability for them.
Mooney: We are creating an artificial market. We have a need to offer people a place to live and
be subsidized. There are 71 artificial pieces of property.
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I am uncertain how it will re -vitalize this community.
Tripodi: I have some points. Many people have moved down -valley for affordabilitiy. I am
personally looking forward to my friends being able to move back. Stepping up is problematic for
me. We are offering homes to people that they will build.
Harper: The wording is not in the code for this type of a project. RO guidelines discusses units
only.
Baker: i would like to make two points. AACP is spawned by this community. Market fails to
provide housing for us. This is directly related to the use of the plan.
The building of units by contractors for re -sale, John is comfortable with. There will be a
deed restriction in place before building. RO's sell for what the market will bear, there is no
number. That will affect the sale price.
McBride: The contractor building the house is taking a gamble. We know there are all kinds of
question marks out there, we are uncertain as to details and they will be worked out.
Hubbard: We are clearly trying to make this affordable housing. We will look for the solution.
Houben: We could also re -score later.
Tygre: I believe we need the statement of intent in the scoring. There has to be a leap of faith
here.
Guthrie: Scoring with conditions then.
Tripodi: We need to score this for the applicant.
Houben: We can score now, and then score after the applicant has made a presentation.
(Scoring discussed, threshold met)
Baker: I would like to discuss the scoring on a few categories and give you our representation.
On transportation, we feel we have met and exceeded the guidelines. It is the heart of this
community, it is pedestrian oriented. The location of the community is on a bus corridor which
makes it easily accessible. This site was a part of the plan for meeting housing needs in a location
that was readily accessible to busing.
Whipple: It does have a good location. It is pedestrian friendly. But there are no good sidewalk
patterns out there today and it is difficult to get around in the old project. The new plan has that,
but there needs to be a linkage throughout.
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Hubbard.- There is incredible potential here.
(Additional discussion on scoring from staff compared to Commission)
Garton: Regarding the RO feature) all mitigation's should be born by the applicant. The RO is not
subsidized by the public. The applicant should commit to that.
Caskey: RFTA mitigations could also be born by RFTA.
Guthrie: They are out of compliance at this time.
Houben: These things all have costs associated with them.
Tripodi: RFTA is already out there. That is an applicants choice to be next to them.
Caskey: I think we need to leave the door open to common sense. When RFTA is in compliance,
everyone wins.
Tygre: I have a question regarding multi year allocations.
Guthrie: There has to be a consensus on that issue.
Please write down any concerns you have on the scoring sheets.
Whipple I move to accept scoring allocations.
Harper: Second.
The vote is unanimous.
The meeting is adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Dee Benson
Recording Secretary
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