HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.20210324REGULAR MEETING HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MARCH 24, 2021
Vice Chairperson Thompson opened the meeting at 4:30 p.m.
Commissioners in attendance: Kara Thompson, Roger Moyer, Jeff Halferty, Sherri Sanzone.
Commissioners not in attendance: Scott Kendrick
Staff present:
Sarah Yoon, Historic Preservation Planner
Kate Johnson, Assistant City Attorney
Wes Graham, Deputy City Clerk
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Mr. Moyer moved to approve the minutes from March 10th, Ms.
Thompson seconded.
ROLL CALL: Mr. Halfery, Yes; Mr. Moyer, Yes: Ms. Sanzone, Yes; Ms. Thompson, Yes. All
in favor, motion carries.
PUBLIC COMMENT: None
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS: None
DISCLOSURE OF CONFLICT: None
PROJECT MONITORING: None
CERTIFICATE OF NO NEGATIVE EFFECT: None
CALL UPS: None
NEW BUSINESS: 121 West Bleeker Street – Conceptual Major Development, Relocation,
Dimensional Variations, and a Floor Area Bonus. Derek Skalko representing the owner.
Mr. Skalko stated the project is across the street from the Yellow Brick School playground and
has a double alley condition. He said that this project is being treated as an interior lot project
from the standpoint of HPC design guidelines. He added that the neighboring property the Hotel
Aspen will be going through major redevelopment in the near future. Mr. Skalko showed a
picture of the alley view of the non-historic addition and said that the addition is 18 inches into
the alley and there is a boulder retaining wall that extends further. Mr. Skalko said that through
research the historic structure is still intact. He stated that the plan is to remove the new addition
that was added in the ’80s and ’90s along with the enclosed front porch. He added that the
resource will be returned and restored to the original condition. Mr. Skalko showed a site plan
and stated that the new design was taken directly out of the design guidelines and the plan orients
according to the lot configuration. He reiterated that this plan is for an interior lot and the
property has an alley condition. Mr. Skalko stated that they are asking for a side yard and a
combined side yard setback specifically to the east side alley. He said essentially the 10-foot side
setback in addition to the rear 10-foot side yard setback for all habitable considerations above
grade. Below-grade space will follow the footprint of the building and therefore there would be a
below-grade variation request. Mr. Skalko stated that there will be a variation request for
mechanical equipment to the East alley's side yards. He said there will be a variation request for
a staircase massing that is being proposed on the west side yard. Mr. Skalko stated that there will
be a major variation request for a light well of approximately 196 square feet. He said he is
working with Jim Pomeroy and the Zoning Department for the height request. Mr. Skalko
showed a rendering of the current elevations and stated that the intent is to remove the mass that
is directly attached to the historic resource and add a linking element of 25 feet to the new
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proposed addition. He said that this will make a clear definition of old and new. Mr. Skalko
showed a rendering of the proposed floor plans and the clean separation of the new structures.
Ms. Thompson asked if the large light well will be utilized as egress.
Mr. Skalko stated it is not.
Mr. Moyer asked if the alley would remain that separates the hotel and 121 W. Bleeker.
Mr. Skalko said yes, the alley will remain and be improved.
Mr. Moyer asked how far is the inset of the connecting element to the resource.
Mr. Skalko stated that it is 20 inches on the west side and 22 inches on the east side.
Mr. Moyer asked what is the height difference of the addition to the highest point on the
Victorian.
Mr. Skalko stated that to the roofline difference is 3 feet 1 inch lower.
Mr. Moyer asked if one is walking up the proposed outside stairway and they looked down
would he see part of the wall or ground.
Mr. Skalko stated that they would see the ground.
Mr. Halferty asked what would have to be restored on the resource.
Mr. Skalko stated that the front enclosed entry still has the original walls and door. The rear roof
will have to undergo some form of restoration. He explained that the rear gable will need to go
through some form of investigating to where the form ends.
Mr. Halferty asked if they considered a reduction on the east and west dimension so it will not be
such a large mass.
Mr. Skalko stated that on the main level any reduction would be very difficult. He explained the
garage placement is being forced to a certain corner of the property and creating a lot of the
massing. Mr. Skalko said that they understand there needs to be a restudy on mass and maybe
that is the second story.
Mr. Moyer asked if they ever looked at a spiral staircase rather than the proposed one.
Mr. Skalko said unfortunately due to code requirements and the reality of space, it does not
work.
Ms. Sanzone asked if the vegetation that is shown off the property to help hide the large lightwell
will remain after The Hotel Aspen is done with their remodel.
Mr. Skalko stated that The Hotel Aspen is keeping their cards close to what the plans are. He
said that they have every intention to keep the vegetation.
Ms. Thompson asked if the Parks Dept. ok’d the placement of the mechanical units in the drip
line of the trees.
Mr. Skalko stated Parks did ok the placement. He explained that they could use a sand set stone
or poured slab on grade, so they do not have to penetrate the ground.
STAFF COMMENTS: Ms. Yoon reiterated the request for approval of major development,
relocation, setback variations, height calculation variation, floor area bonus. Ms. Yoon showed a
Sanborn map from 1904 and stated that one can see that the rear of the home has been
significantly altered over time. She stated that staff is in support of the removal of the non-
historic addition that overwhelms the resource and the restoration efforts. She said the applicant
is proposing a full basement and this will trigger a relocation because of the digging out of the
basement, however, the original location of the historic resource will be maintained. Ms. Yoon
added that by doing this, this will create a significant amount of green open space around the
historic resource, which does meet the design guidelines. She added that the larger lightwell
would provide more daylight for the basement area. Ms. Yoon stated that the proposed
connecting element that sits directly behind the historic resource is wider than typically preferred
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however, staff is in support of the wider connecting element because so much of the south
elevation of the historic resource was demolished. She said that staff is recommending a restudy
of the massing and footprint of the new addition. She added that staff would like to see the
addition more in line with the historic resource. Ms. Yoon stated that staff is recommending the
reduction of the west side patio. She explained moving it slightly away from the historic resource
so the resource can meet grade and not the paved patio. Ms. Yoon reviewed the benefits being
requested from setback variations, floor area bonus, and variation on measuring height for
lightwells over 100 s.f. Ms. Yoon stated that staff recommends continuation to restudy the
building footprint and massing of the new addition, reduce the proposed patio on the west side of
the lot, and work with relevant City Departments regarding transformer, new water line, and
stormer water mitigation plan.
PUBLIC COMMENT: None
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS: Ms. Thompson said that she is in support of the significant
amount of restoration to expose the back of the structure and is in support of the bonus. She said
that the project meets the relocation criteria to put a basement underneath. She added that she is
in favor of granting the variation for the rear yard to build the basement under the garage with
the deck above. Ms. Thompson said that she is in favor of the height variation for the lightwell.
The board agreed with Ms. Thompson's statements.
Mr. Halferty said that he agrees with the staff’s concerns about the mass of the new addition. He
added that that from the Bleeker St. elevation the new addition becomes a really large wall. Mr.
Halferty stated that Mr. Moyer brought up a great point of the cumbersome size of the outside
staircase and that the east and west direction of the new addition spans the full 60 feet.
Ms. Thompson said that she is struggling with the plan of the new addition going from setback to
property line because of the proposed stair. She said that she is not in support of the stair in that
location, it makes the massing appear much larger. Ms. Thompson stated that she would like the
additions volume to be more in line with the exterior face of the Victorian. She added finding a
balance would significantly improve the massing.
Ms. Sanzone said that it could be just the drawing presentation creating a larger massing. She
stated that she agrees with Mr. Halferty’s and Ms. Thompson’s statements about the massing.
Ms. Sanzone added she likes the stair element however wishing it did not appear in the setback.
Mr. Moyer said that he concurs with the commissioner’s comments. He said that it is ok in this
instance for the connecting element to be wider than normal. Mr. Moyer said that perhaps if the
stairway can be placed somewhere else on the outside of the building and be as transparent as
possible with a very slim frame, very slender railing. He said that he agrees with the staff’s
comments and added that he thinks it a good idea if the outside activities are pulled away from
the historic resource.
Ms. Sanzone stated that she thinks the recommendation to pull the patio back from the resource
makes sense however there is a bit of a conflict. She explained that in the HPC guidelines one
can have these outdoor amenities, firepits, barbecue, grills, hot tubs, etc... if they're not blocking
views of the historic resource. In this case, they're not but on the other hand, they're not
compliant with zoning. And maybe this is a discussion for the HPC board later. She added that
there aren't a lot of opportunities to locate these outdoor amenities and space on historic
properties, because of the resource. She further explained a lot of times we are looking at side
yards to create these outdoor spaces but then we run afoul of zoning requirements.
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Ms. Thompson stated that she would like HPC to discuss the railing for the outside staircase and
how much of the light well will be visible.
Ms. Sanzone asked if there should be more information now or at the final review.
Mr. Moyer said conceptual would be more helpful.
Ms. Thompsons said technically HPC is approving it right now or HPC could request more
information at a later date on what this will look like exactly. She added that the railing should
be as transparent as possible.
Mr. Moyer agreed that the railing should be as transparent as possible.
Ms. Thompson stated for them to approve the railing in that location they will need to see the
railing and material.
Ms. Sanzone asked the applicant to show the detail regarding the light well.
Mr. Skalko stated that the intent is to be open-aired and graded the east side lightwell will be 3-4
inches above grade. He explained for the open-aired lightwell they are looking at a cable rail to a
star-fired glass.
Ms. Thompson stated that the glass can get pretty reflective and the open rail can be very
delicate.
Mr. Moyer said that an open rail is as transparent as it can be.
Ms. Thompson moved to continue to May 26th. Mr. Moyer Seconded.
ROLL CALL: Mr. Kendrick, Yes; Mr. Moyer, Yes; Mr. Halferty, Yes; Ms. Sanzone, Yes; Ms.
Thompson, Yes. All in favor. Motion
EXECUTIVE SESSION: Ms. Johnson stated Upon the affirmative vote of two-thirds of the
Commissioners, the Historic Preservation Commission will adjourn to executive session
pursuant to Colo. Rev. Stat. section 24-6-402(4)(b) to confer with an attorney for the purposes of
receiving legal advice on specific legal questions related to the appeal of HPC’s denial of the
application of 1020 E. Cooper LLC for redevelopment of property located at 1020 E. Cooper
Ave., Aspen, Colorado.
Mr. Moyer moved to move into executive session, Mr. Halferty seconded,
Ms. Johnson stated Mr. Kendrick will be joining the executive session.
Ms. Sanzone left the meeting.
ROLL CALL: Mr. Moyer, Yes; Mr. Halferty, Yes; Ms. Thompson, Yes. All in favor. Motion
The commission entered the executive session.
Commission entered the public meeting.
Adjourn.