HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.council.19991123Continued Meetin~ AsOen City Council November 23, 1999
Mayor Richards called the continued meeting to order at 4:10 p.m. with
Councilmembers Paulson, Hershey and McCabe present.
Asoen Mountain PUD Lot 3
Julie Ann Woods, community development director, showed a site map of
lot 3, which is 242,810 square feet and contains easements to be subtracted.
Lot 3 has different zone districts within it. The applicant has divided lot 3
into 8 development parcels. Parcel 1 will be 2 free market triplexes; this is
currently occupied by Aspen Valley Ski Club building; parcel 2 will be 2
affordable housing duplexes; parcel 3 will be a free market duplex. Parcels
4, 5, 6, 7, 8 are all free market single family dwelling and each will contain
accessory dwelling units. There are a total of 17 residential units of 73,100
square feet. Parcels A and B are open space parcels containing 60,260
square feet of open space. The net lot 3 is 130,170 square feet.
The access is up Mill street into a cul-de-sac with driveways coming off that
cul-de-sac. There are trail easements in two locations, one in between the
triplexes and residential lots to give access down the hill and the other a
higher easement. Ms. Woods noted that the affordable housing proposal
meets the current requirements. There are 4 affordable units plus ADUs for
a total of 6200 square feet net livable.
Lot 3 has multiple zoning of LTR, R-15 and conservation. Under current
zoning code, multiple zoning requires that the most restrictive would apply,
which would require the entire parcel be zoned conservation. Ms. Woods
reminded Council there is a previous development agreement for these lot
and development rights associated with that agreement. The applicant
proposes to rezone the property. Staff recommends extending the LTR Zone
to the entire parcel except the unbuilt areas, which will be zoned
conservation.
Ms. Woods said R-15/PUD/Lodge overlay the FAR allowed would be
18,192 square feet for single family. For LTR, the FAR would be 34,300
square feet. The conservation zone, prior to the most recent amendment, has
unlimited floor area. Ms. Woods said in order to calculate floor area, it was
assumed the property would be rezoned to LTR, which allows a 1:1 FAR.
The applicant proposes 105,850 square feet of allowable floor area under the
proposed rezoning. Staff looked at the lot sizes, determined the gross lot
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the net lot area. Staff the credited the open space back to the lots and to get
the adjusted lot area to determine a proposed FAR. Ms. Woods illustrated
the single family lots with their allowed FAR and proposed FAR:
Allowed Proposed
Lot 4 4,056 6,200
Lot 5 3,937 5,200
Lot 6 3,981 5,200
Lot 7 4,267 6,500
Lot 8 4,287 6,500
Ms. Woods said the applicants propose to make up the difference in
proposed FAR on lots 1 and 2. Parcel 1 is allowed 41,592 and 27,000
square feet is proposed; parcel 2 would be allowed 25,632 and 7500 square
feet of floor area is proposed. The difference of unused floor area on parcel
1 and 2 would be split across parcels 4 through 8. The difference between
FAR allowed versus the FAR being requested is 19, 100 square feet of
unused floor area.
Vann reminded Council this site has been zoned 3 separate districts for
years. In 1986 when the PUD agreement was adopted, there was a
conceptual approval for 33 residential units on Top of Mill under the same
zoning as today. The regulations then allowed these residential units
withore requiring a rezoning. The PUD agreement aggregated all 47
residential credits being given to SLP. While the PUD agreement was being
drafted, the city was re-writing the land use code. In this re-write, the code
addressed land with multiple zone districts. This re-write would preclude
meeting the terms of the PUD agreement with Savanah. The amendment
states when there are two zone districts, the most restrictive applies. Vann
said Lot 3 has 3 zone districts; the most restrictive is conservation, which
only allows one unit per 10 acres. Vann said the only way to reconcile this
with the PUD agreement is to rezone the property. Vann told Council LTR
permits residential uses and R-15 does not permit multi-family. The
dimensional requirements are based on rezoning the necessary property to
LTR. A portion of the single family lots is in the conservation zone and this
is also suggested to be rezoned LTR.
Vann said the allowable floor area and density under the rezoning exceed
that which is being proposed by the applicant. Vann told Council the
applicant calculated the floor area on an entire parcel; staff calculated the
FAR on a lot by lot basis. The PUD regulations allow floor areas to be
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distributed around the PUD. The floor area from parcels 1 and 2 is being
redistributed to the single family lots. Vann noted that the PUD also permits
unused FAR from lot 5 to be transferred to lot 3. Vann said the proposed
hotel on lot 5 has about 8,000 square feet of FAR that is not being utilized.
Vann said the applicant is not taking advantage of the lands zoned
conservation to increase the density or FAR on the parcel.
Ms. Woods told Council P & Z voted 6 to 0 for approval of the conceptual
plan with conditions. The housing board also recommended approval of this
site, also with conditions. Staff recommends approval of lot 3.
John Sarpa, representing Savanah Limited Partnership, told Council lot 3 is
the crux of the economics of the Aspen Mountain PUD, residential
properties are one of the higher selling parts of Aspen. The PUD proposal in
1996 was a total of 47 residential development on both lots 3 and 5. At that
time, Council indicated they would prefer short term accommodations on lot
5, leaving only lot 3 for residential uses.
Sarpa said the first design for lot 3 did not contain any affordable housing as
SLP felt they had fully mitigated their housing requirements. Lot 3 now
contains 100 percent mitigation for affordable housing. Sarpa said the
applicants have a number of computer imaging of the proposed build out.
Sarpa pointed out the site sits in a bowl, which lessens the visual impacts of
the project.
Vann said that exemption from growth management for 47 residential units
comes from demolition of existing units through the PUD and prior growth
management competitions. The city code states one can tear down a
structure and rebuild it. At the time when credits were assigned, there were
no housing mitigation requirements. However, SLP was required to mitigate
the demolition and future reconstruction of units. SLP maintains that the 47
credits were mitigated at the beginning of the PUD. Savanah has agreed to
mitigate the units on lot 3 as if the demolition has occurred today. The city
has two requirements for mitigation and reconstruction of existing units.
Mitigation for single family units is either payment of a housing impact fee
or provision of an on-site ADU. Mitigation is only triggered if one
reconstructs what was torn down. Multi-family mitigation is different; if
multi-family units are torn down, one may replace the same number of flee
market units subject to the requirement that one replaces 50 percent of the
bedrooms and 50 percent of the square footage that was demolished.
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Vann told Council Savanah has an inventory of every unit that was
demolished and whether they were single family or multi-family and of the
47 units that were demolished, the applicant is obligated to mitigate all
demolition event though only 6 six multi-family units are being constructed.
Vann said this number was determined at 12 bedrooms and 7,000 square feet
of FAR. Staff has agreed that under today' s regulation, the demolition of all
the multi-family structures in the PUD would require that level of
mitigation. The remainder of the credits was single family and the
applicants only have to mitigate what is actually being replaced. Each single
family dwelling on lot 3 is proposed to pay a housing impact fee or provide
an on-site ADU.
Mayor Richards opened the public hearing on lot 3.
David Booth, Aspen Lodging Company, said the neighbors feel the density
is high. They are concerned about easements and trails and hope these will
be addressed and preserved. Vann told Council there are no height variances
being requested for lot 3. Vann noted the fill on lot 3 would have to be
removed. The story poles reflect heights from natural grade, which is how
the code requires structures to be measured. Vann said the houses are
located on a flat area at the toe of a slope.
Booth said a large issue of concern is drainage. The Fifth Avenue
condominiums have had water problems. Sarpa reminded Council when
SLP purchased this property, they donated $250,000 towards a master plan
for drainage, water and mud flow debris plan. This plan is two-phased, data
collection and implementation. The data collection has been complete. The
city engineering department hired a firm to look at the data and see how to
approach the problem and have modeled this site to see what would happen
in different flood/debris flow instances. Sarpa said when there are buildings
in the way of debris flow, it exacerbates the problem and makes the flows
deeper. Phase two has just started and staff will come back to Council with
different ways to mitigate the problems. The costs of mitigation depend on
to what level of mitigation; mitigating for 100 year problems could cost
millions of dollars. Sarpa told Council they are incorporating ideas from
this engineering firm. Sarpa said a condition states that any site plan the city
would approve and would have to be adjusted to take care of the design
criteria for debris flow issues, the applicants are willing to take that risk.
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Sarpa said public hearings on the debris flow mitigation will start early in
2000. Sarpa noted that debris flow on the mountain is a Pitkin County issue
rather than a city issue. Sarpa said there are two main areas of concerns,
gulleys on each side of Aspen mountain. The city will have to work on the
mitigation for areas other than Savanah' s. Vann said the design of this
project will not eliminate the problems on Aspen mountain, the issue is
making this project safe given the problems on Aspen mountain.
Mayor Richards closed the public hearing on lot 3.
Ms. Woods pointed om under the land use code, the applicant has the ability
to propose how to distribute the FAR throughout the planned unit
development. Council decides whether they agree with that distribution or
not. Vann reminded Council this is conceptual review and any rezoning
happens at final review. The houses within the PUD will be subject to 8040
greenline review as well as the residential design standards. Vann said this
plan represents a concept how the houses would be integrated into the site
and relate to surrounding development and how the visual impacts will be
reduced. Vann said there will be more specific architecture to review at
final application. Vann said the applicants would like an indication from
Council whether they will be able to allocate unused FAR to the single
family homes.
Mayor Richards said she can support the FAR allocation suggested by the
applicant. Lot 3 came to Council with conditions from a previous
agreement. The project is within the height limits and is a reasonable using
of the credits from the 1996 Aspen mountain PUD. Mayor Richards said
she is concerned about drainage flow through the site. Mayor Richards said
she is also concerned about the mass of the two triplexes as they seem to
overshadow adjacent buildings.
Councilman Paulson said he would like to see the houses smaller, maybe
5,000 square feet. Councilman Paulson encouraged the applicant to use a lot
of green building materials. Bill Poss, architect, told Council when they put
together the specifics for final approval, they will include an outline of green
building materials.
Councilman McCabe said he likes the project and feels the way it is
designed the houses will not be obtrusive. Councilman McCabe said he is
concerned about the drainage issue. Councilman Hershey said he does not
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have a problem with the FAR allocation. Mayor Richards said she is
concerned about the trees on parcel 8. Sarpa said they may be able to move
the building closer to the cul-de-sac and save more trees.
AsOen Mountain Lot 5
Julie Ann Woods, community development director, told Council the issues
with lots 5 are the amount of parking, whether SLP may convert any or all of
the 34 residential reconstruction credits as part of the growth management
formula, and whether SLP may be allowed to use units at the Bavarian Inn
as part of the employee mitigation on lot 5.
Bill Poss, architect, showed computer generated pictures of the height of the
hotel from various locations, from the corner of Galena and Cooper, and
from Wagner Park. Poss illustrated that the buildings behind the hotel are
still higher than the hotel. Poss said this proposed hotel is only higher than
the existing Grand Aspen in the center of the building. The model addresses
the hotel and the relationship to the larger buildings around. The design has
tried to create a pedestrian walkway east/west through lot 5 to the Little
Nell.
Councilman Paulson said one of his concerns is that the hotel seems to cm
the mountain off from town. Sarpa said the issue is trying to keep the height
at a minimum and still have enough square footage to keep this hotel at 150
rooms. Vann reminded Council the PUD regulations allow height to be
varied to achieve a better architectural design. Councilman Hershey said the
impacts of the hotel need be weighed against the need for moderately priced
hotel beds. Mayor Richards said she has not changed her position on the
height issue. Mayor Richards said she feels a 10 percent reduction would
help the impact of this building. This hotel is 12 to 18 feet above the
allowable height in this zone. Mayor Richards said she is also concerned
about the length of the spine; the building does not seem very broken up.
Sarpa said one of the reasons to consider a height variance for this property
is the need for this type of facility for the entire community. Mayor
Richards noted some of these hotel rooms are larger than housing units and
maybe some of these can be made smaller in order to get more rooms and
lower the height.
Councilman McCabe said he does not have problems with the scale of the
hotel compared to the trade offs like more open space and the ice rink,
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Councilman McCabe said he can live with the height variance bm would
prefer to see the height lowered if at all possible.
Mayor Richards opened the public hearing.
Don Crawford, Tipple Inn, thanked Savanah for changing the entrance to the
garage from Galena street to Dean street. Crawford entered into the record
wording for the agreement about the garage. Crawford said he hopes the
applicant provides enough parking for the project.
Steve Fallender said the applicant has done a lot of work trying to make the
project work. The open space along Galena street is nice. Fallender said the
height noah and south will affect his views and any reduction in height
would be helpful.
Ann Murchison, Fifth Avenue Condominiums, said these buildings are too
tall and too massive. Ms. Murchison suggested eliminating the entire top
floor of the proposed hotel. David Booth, Aspen Lodging Company, said
this will drastically affect the views from the Alpinblick. Booth said
lowering the building, especially on the back, would be helpful. Vann noted
this portion of the hotel is 25 feet and is less than the maximum height
allowed. Booth said the parking will not be enough during the summer,
which typically has more guests driving than in winter. Vann stated that the
parking requirements meet the code requirement of .7 spaces/room. Vann
said one problem is that there is inadequate parking in this neighborhood but
this hotel is meeting its requirement.
Ms. Wood agreed that the project meets the standards of the city's code.
Mayor Richards asked if under a PUD the Council could requirement more
parking. Ms. Woods said the PUD is a negotiated agreement.
Mayor Richards closed the public hearing.
Councilman Hershey said this proposed hotel is located right across from the
transit center. The applicant has stated they will market the hotel as a place
tourists do not need cars. Councilman McCabe said this proposal does meet
the code requirement for parking and he does not have a problem with the
parking as proposed. Mayor Richards said she, too, is comfortable with the
parking requirement and with the reconfiguration of the ice rink parking.
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Conversion of residential to lodge. Julie Ann Woods told Council Savanah
has 47 residential reconstruction credits and they are using 13 of those on lot
3, leaving a balance of 34 reconstruction credits. The applicants are asking
Council to allow then to use a conversion of 2.5 lodge units equal to one free
market unit which would determine how many growth management credits
they need to apply for. Ms. Woods said using a conversion factor of 2.5
lodge units times 34 reconstruction credits equals 85 tourist
accommodations. Savanah is proposing 150 rooms; they already have 50
rooms under the original PUD agreement. This would bring a total of 135
lodge rooms and SLP will have to compete for 15 lodge units in the tourist
GMQS.
Mayor Richards asked how many units are available in the tourist GMQS.
Vann said there has been no lodge allocation in years and the quota has been
accruing at 11 units per year. There are 55 units available in the tourist
lodge quota. Mayor Richards asked if these reconstruction credits disappear
or can they be sold for another project. Vann said as part of this process,
Savanah is required to enter into a new PUD agreement and they may
negotiate moving or selling these credits. Sarpa noted that using a
conversion factor of 2.94 will bring this up to 100 units and then this project
would not need to compete in GMQS.
Mayor Richards said she feels it is appropriate for this project to use up
reconstruction credits. Mayor Richards questioning continuing to roll over
growth credits when the community is trying to control growth. Mayor
Richards said she would like to see these credits used up. Vann said the
concept of using all the credits towards a conversion to lodge units and then
not requiring SLP to compete for all 66 lodge units would be a fair
compromise. Council agreed.
Bavarian Inn Affordable Housin~
John Sarpa, Savanah Limited Partnership, reminded Council they requested
Savanah to look at unit N2 to see if it could be redesigned to maintain sight
lines for an adjacent property owner and keep it at a two-bedroom. David
Brown, architect, showed Council how this could be accomplished.
Joyce Ohlson, community development department, said Council requested
a comparison of density of the Bavarian project with other local projects:
Bavarian Inn 19 units 23 units/acre
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Alpine Acres 10 units 19 units/acre
Snyder 15 units 12 units/acre
Juan Street 15 units 12 units/acre
West Hopkins 37 units/acre
7th &Main 52 units/acre
Benedict Commons 80 units/acre
Villas 36 units 10 units/acre
West Bleeker 26 units 14 units/acre
Ms. Ohlson reminded Council the evolution of this plan contained many
balancing points like tree preservation, traffic impacts, circulation,
neighborhood participation, and density. Ms. Ohlson said there was a
comment about the alley usage. Staff has discussed this with police, fire and
engineering and is not prepared to limit the alley to one-way traffic. There
is a condition for right turn in and right turn out only from 7th street. Herb
Klein, adjacent property owner, told Council the project was designed to
have the Bleeker street driveway be the primary access and the east end of
the alley is the secondary access. Klein requested signage so this is only
used for emergency vehicles.
Ms. Ohlson told Council the city forester will evaluate the trees and their
maintenance issues. Vann said the applicants have committed to performing
a face lift on the existing Bavarian Inn. The specific details will be
contained in the final application. Mayor Richards said she would like this
project to continue to be reviewed by HPC.
Mayor Richards opened the public hearing.
Paul Murry said if the N-2 building is moved, he wants reassurance that no
trees will be killed. Sarpa said they will save all trees.
Council entered into the record letter from Craig Liebel and Jerry Monkarsh.
Mayor Richards closed the public hearing.
Use of Bavarian Inn for Mitigation of Lot 5
Julie Ann Woods, community development director, said Savanah is
requesting to use some portion of the affordable housing units at the
Bavarian to satisfy their employee housing requirements for lot 5, the hotel
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site. Ms. Woods said the difference between the existing Grand Aspen
employees and the new hotel is 41 employees. The applicants will house 12
employees on site of lot 5, and would like to use the Bavarian to satisfy the
housing for the other 29 employees. Ms. Woods told Council the housing
board finds that the Bavarian project was intended to satisfy housing for the
Ritz approved in 1990. The P&Z has not commented on this.
John Worcester, city attorney, told Council the first amended PUD
agreement was adopted by Council in 1989 by resolution. After Council
adopted that resolution, third parties sued the City and Savanah. The Judge
found that land use approvals had to be done by ordinance rather than by
resolution. Council re-adopted the PUD by Ordinance #69, Series of 1989,
and then decided to refer that question to the voters. There were two options
in one question presented to the voters, one drafted by Council and one
drafted by the developers. The option drafted by the developers "the Hadid
Ritz-Carlton Proposal" was approved by the voters. This option reads,
"Shall the amended Aspen Mountain PUD subdivision be approved subject
to the following, Ordinance #69 is hereby adopted in the same form as
Resolution #29 by which the Aspen City Council previously approved the
agreement of the Aspen Mountain PUD including the Ritz-Carlton hotel and
(2) in addition developer shall in good faith process a land use application
for affordable housing suitable for .8/acres on Main street known as the
Bavarian Inn property".
Worcester said the intent of the question was that the developer should
process a land use application. The issue of mitigation was silent.
Worcester stated "in addition" means in addition to all approvals of the PUD
and all the mitigation, the developer also agreed to a land use application for
the Bavarian Inn. Worcester said a court would look at the legislative intent
behind the ballot question and the intent of the voters who voted in favor of
the question.
John Sarpa, Savanah Limited Partnership, stated they feel strongly that at no
time did they envision that the Bavarian Inn was to be used for mitigation
for the Ritz Carlton. The Bavarian Inn offer was over and above whatever
mitigation was required by the Ritz. This property was to be available if the
attdit on the Ritz employees showed more housing was needed.
Sarpa noted the proposed Bavarian Inn project is 100 percent affordable
housing in town, 100 percent paid for by private developers. Sarpa said the
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city and the developer should try and find a compromise in order to keep this
PUD going forward. Sarpa proposed the developer be allowed to use a
percentage of the Bavarian Inn units and the rest of these units go back into
the general housing pool. Sarpa reminded Council Savanah sold the Ritz
property in January 1998 and would have sold the Bavarian with the Ritz if
there was a link between the two properties. Sarpa said the community will
be getting affordable housing units, built by the developer and controlled by
the housing office.
Mayor Richards stated she believes that employee housing at the Bavarian
Inn was an inducement for people to vote yes on the Ritz. Mayor Richards
said she does not favor a compromise. Mayor Richards said this would be a
compromise of the public interest and a subsidy of $80,000/unit times 29
employees to be housed for a total of $2.3 million. The public will have to
pick up this housing somewhere else.
Councilman Paulson said he would be willing to entertain a compromise at
something like 70/30; 70 going to the housing office. Councilman Hershey
said he would be willing to discuss a compromise. Councilman McCabe
said he sides with Mayor Richards at this point and would be willing to look
at background from both sides. Mayor Richards said the Bavarian Inn was
offered to the community 10 years ago and the developer is asking the
Council to compromise housing of employee demand generated in the future
against a promise of the Ritz in the past.
Councilman Hershey moved to continue Resolutions 93 and 94, Series of
1999, to December 6 at 5 p.m; seconded by Councilman Paulson. All in
favor, motion carried.
Councilman Paulson moved to adjourn at 7:05 p.m.; seconded by
Councilman McCabe. All in favor, motion carried.
Kathryn S. Koch, City Clerk
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