HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.council.19850812Regular Meeting Aspen City Council August 12, 1985
Council met in executive session from 4:10 p.m. until 5 p.m.
Mayor Stifling called the meeting to order at 5:10 p.m. with
Councilmembers Isaac, Collins, Walls and Fallin present.
MINUTES
Councilwoman Walls moved to approve the minutes of June 24, July
8, 1985; seconded by Councilwoman Fallin. All in favor, motion
carried.
CITIZEN PARTICIPATION
1. Chuck Carletch said Council has received a copy of the
first draft on the joint maintenance facility study. Friday
August 16 at 1 p.m. at the community center, there will be a
presentation by the consultant. Carletch said he hopes the
Council will attend.
2. Chuck Carletch said the County's financial advisory board
is recommending there be a joint city/county finance department.
The FAB feels it would serve the needs of the community well.
3. Pat Dobie, on behalf of Aspen Highlands and the Hospital,
requested the city ask the highway department to install a stop-
light at the intersection of Maroon Creek and Highway 82° Mayor
Stifling said Council will add this to the August 26 agenda.
4. John Doremus said he met with Lee Cassin, environmental
health department, about the woodburning devices. The staff was
impressed with some of the ideas, and Doremus would like to be
able to address them during the first reading of Ordinance #47.
5. Craig Ward told Council he met with Jim Mollica and the
owner of a lot west of town that Council had directed staff to
condemn a trail easement. Mollica will get back to the city
with an appraisal for the trail easement. Ward had an engineer-
ing study done on three different bridge options. Council
requested a report on the August 26 agenda. Ward told Council
the Nordic Council is preparing a winter brochure, and would
like the-city to help produce a summer brochure in the same
format for the hiking trails. Mayor Stifling told Ward to work
this into the budget hearings. Ward told Council he has a bid
on the trail from Little Nell to the Aspen Club and a number of
owners are willing to donate to the trail. Ward is also working
on a trail from Koch Lumber property to Castle creek.
6. Betty Grindlay told Council she is working on a pedestrian
only bridge from Pitkin Green to the music tent as an auto
disincentive. Ms. Grindlay said she is contributing to this and
plans to raise funds.
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7. Edith Holyoke requested permission to sell tickets and
t-shirts for the deaf camp picnic in the mall. Ms. Holyoke told
Council the CCLC has not acted on this request but the Deaf
Camp has done this in the past.
Mayor Stirling moved to allow the deaf camp to sell tickets and
t-shirts for this event in the mall the week of August 19;
seconded by Councilman Collins. All in favor, motion carried.
COUNCILMEMBER COMMENTS
1. Councilman Isaac said he feels the idea of a joint finance
department is a reasonable one and would like staff to report at
the next agenda what it would save the city and county.
2. Councilman Isaac said the Historic Preservation Commission
would like to meet with Council and suggested September 16 as a
date.
3. Councilman Collins said there has been some legislation
passed in the state about underground water rights and in order
for the city to preserve any subsurface rights, an ordinance has
to be passed by September 1. Barry Edwards, city attorney's
office said the staff could prepare an emergency ordinance.
Council requested this be added to the agenda.
4. Mayor Stirling said Council has a work session August 19 to
hear reports from the M.A.A. committees on facilities and
funding. There will be a meeting a 4 p.m. on the Roaring Fork
Transit agency. The Council's goals session is scheduled for
Friday, August 30 at 1 p.m. at the Aspen Club.
5. Mayor Stifling said August 10, 1985 was proclaimed Coors
International Classic Day. Mayor Stirling extended thanks to
the city staff and the volunteers who made this event a success.
Mayor Stifling thanked the lodging community who donated beds
and the restaurant association for donating meals. Mayor
Stifling said this bicycle race was one of the most successful
events in Aspen.
6. Mayor Stirling said September 3 there will be a joint work
session with the County on RFTA and the accessibility study.
Council will have a work session following that on the comparable
worth.
7. Mayor Stirling moved that the Council accept the offer from
the current lessees to purchase the Red Roof Inns for $2,500,000
at 10 percent per year with $500,000 at closing and $500,000 for
four years consecutively, and the city retains approval of any
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third party proposed as an operator for the site, and a 90 day
period starting today to have the acceptable third party; and to
direct the staff to pursue the details of this offer, and to
amend the existing lease where necessary, and to prepare docu-
ments to carry out this offer; seconded by Councilwoman Fallin.
All in favor, motion carried.
ORDINANCE #35, SERIES OF 1985 - Clean Indoor Air Act
Councilman Isaac moved to read Ordinance #35, Series of 1985;
seconded by Councilwoman Walls. All in favor, motion carried.
ORDINANCE #35
Series of 1985
AN ORDINANCE ENACTING A NEW ARTICLE IV TO CHAPTER 11 OF THE
MUNICIPAL CODE OF THE CITY OF ASPEN, PROHIBITING THE
SMOKING OF TOBACCO OR ANY OTHER W4ED OR PLANT IN INDOOR
PUBLIC PLACES AS SET FORTH THEREIN; PRESCRIBING PENALTIES
AND REMEDIES FOR THE VIOLATION THEREOF; AND DIRECTING THAT
CHAPTER 11 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE BE REORGANIZED TO REFLECT
THE DIVISION OF SAID CHAPTER INTO VARIOUS ARTICLES AND THE
RENUMBERS OF T}~E GENERAL PENALTY PROVISION OF SECTION
11-4.1 TO 11-5.1 was read by the city clerk
Mayor Stifling said there have been amendments proposed to this
ordinance which have been circulated to staff and Council. The
amendments add definitions of employee, employer, and place of
employment. The amendments add "except in areas that are
physically separated and independently ventilated" for both
hospitals and eating establishments. Section 11-4.6 Regulations
of Smoking in Places of Employment and Section 11-4.7 Posting of
Signs have been added to the ordinance.
Mayor Stirling moved to adopt the amendments to Ordinance #35,
Series of 1985, on first reading; seconded by Council woman
Fallin.
Councilman Isaac said he would like to eliminate 11-4.6(d)(2)
"any property owned or leased by other governmental agencies" as
he would not want to eliminate other governmental agencies.
Mayor Stifling agreed to that change. Councilman Collins said
the Council should have time to look at these amendments to see
what the impacts will be. Councilman Collins said independent
ventilations in restaurants will be very expensive and perhaps
impossible. Councilman Collins said if there is an independent
ventilation for restaurants, it should also be there for meeting
rooms, lobbies, etc. Councilman Collins said it would be
premature to act on the amendments without knowing the impacts.
Mayor Stifling pointed out the ordinance states that structural
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modifications are not required. Peirce told Council that
restaurants may do structural modifications if they wish but it
is not required.
All in favor, with the exception of Councilmembers Fallin and
Collins. Motion carried.
Councilwoman Walls moved to adopt Ordinance #35, Series of 1985,
as amended on first reading; seconded by Councilman Isaac.
Mayor Stifling said this ordinance is unique because it requires
100 percent no smoking in restaurants and retail areas. Mayor
Stirling said recent studies do indicate passive smoking is a
health hazard. Mayor Stifling said legislation always lags
behind the realities of life. Mayor Stirling said it is apparent
that a hazardous enough situation exists that only legislation
will be able to deal with it. Councilwoman Walls asked why
restaurants were not allowed a certain percentage for smoking
sections. Peirce said that was discussed at length, and this
town has small restaurants, and it makes sense to have the
whole eating area non-smoking. Councilwoman Fallin said she
would like to hear amendments from the restaurant association.
Roll call vote; Councilmembers Walls, yes; Isaac, yes; Collins,
no; Fallin, no; Mayor Stirling, yes. Motion carried. The
public hearing is scheduled for August 26.
ORDINANCE #47, SERIES OF 1985 - Woodburning Devices
Councilwoman Fallin moved to read Ordinance #47, Series of 1985;
seconded by Councilman Isaac. All in favor, motion carried.
ORDINANCE #47
Series of 1985
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE SOLID FUEL BURNING DEVICE
REGULATIONS SET FORTH IN CHAPTER 11-2.3 OF THE MUNICI-
PAL CODE OF THE CITY OF ASPEN, COLORADO, TO PROHIBIT
THE INSTALLATION OF MORE THAN ONE SOLID FUEL BURNING
DEVICE IN ANY HOTEL OR LODGE PROJECT, SINGLE FAMILY
DWELLING, DUPLEX, MULITIFAMILY STRUCTURE, OR OTHER
BUILDING AND REQUIRING THAT THE DEVICE BE CERTIFIED,
EXCEPT IN LODGES WHEN OTHER APPROVED CONTROLS ARE
USED; SETTING FORTH THE CERTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS;
AND AMENDING CHAPTER ll-2.L SETTING FORTH DEFINITIONS
OF BUILDING, HOTEL AND LODGE PROJECTS, AND SOLID FUEL
BURNING DEVICES was read by the city clerk
Councilwoman Walls moved to adopt Ordinance #47, Series of 1985,
on first reading; seconded by Councilwoman Fallin.
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Lee Cassin, environmental health department, told Council
Aspen's air has not met the federal health standards several
times in the last 10 years, and the particulate level has been
worse than many major cities. Woodburning is responsible for 30
percent of the fine particulates averaged over a year. Ms.
Cassin it is unacceptable to allow concentrations of conventional
solid fuel burning devices in lodge or multi-family projects.
Ms. Cassin said allowing no new burning devices would only keep
the status quo. Ms. Cassin pointed out when Council adopted the
original burning device ordinance, they intended to bring about
abatement to improve the air quality.
One of the concerns is how many burning devices a lodge project,
like the Aspen Mountain Lodge, should be allowed to have. Ms.
Cassin said there are two reasons for woodburning devices; heat
and aesthetics. A certified woodburning device heats but does
not provide the aesthetics. The lodge project is proposing two
woodburning devices per residential unit. These are not heating
devices. This ordinance would allow one certified device in
each project. Natural gas fireplaces would not be controlled by
this ordinance. Ms. Cassin said the ordinance could be amended
to allow more than one certified device if controls were used by
the developer that would have an impact in reducing air pollu-
tion. There is a suggestion that several flues could be tied
together and have an after burner or an electrostatic precipita-
tor to reduce emissions from fireplaces.
Ms. Cassin told Council staff discussed allowing a number of
devices per block or square footage rather than one per project
but did not come up with a solution. This would be difficult to
enforce and to figure out how many woodburning devices exist per
block. Ms. Cassin recommended Council adopt the ordinance
allowing one certified device per project or single family home
and unlimited natural gas fireplaces, changing the language
about how a device gets certified. Ms. Cassin said the staff is
not ready to go with the incentive program to replace existing
fireplaces as they are not comfortable with how it would be
implemented. It is an important concept, and the only way to
address the existing pollution. Ms. Cassin said staff has
researched funding this through property taxes on existing
devices, but many details have to be worked out. Ms. Cassin said
staff is working with the Aspen Mountain Lodge on some alterna-
tives.
Councilwoman Walls moved to delete Section 5 from Ordinance #47;
seconded by Councilwoman Fallin.
Councilman Isaac said if the city is going to address the
problem of wood smoke pollution, they have to go after the
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existing fireplaces. Councilwoman Fallin agreed but said this
should be done in phases and take care of the new devices first.
Jeffrey Evans urged Council to have a study session and he would
like to suggest improvements for the ordinance before public
hearing.
All in favor, with the exception of Councilman Collins. Motion
carried.
Councilman Isaac asked about provisions for duplexes. Ms.
Cassin said currently each half of a duplex can have a dirty
burning unit. The amendment states if a duplex unit is over
1,000 square feet, it may have a certified device; if not, it
cannot. Mayor Stirling pointed out a multi-family structure can
have only one device, yet a duplex could have two units. Ms.
Cassin said in the previous ordinance, Council felt-that duplexes
should be treated like single family units.
Councilman Collins asked t~e difference between having 400
devices in separate residences or 400 devices in a lodge. Ms.
Cassin said a lodge is closer together, with greater density of
pollution. Ms. Cassin said the pollution that gets trapped in
this valley depends on the density of sources. Suzanne Caskey
told Council the town of Telluride is considering putting a cap
on the total number of woodburning devices. Ms. Caskey told
Council in 1983 the state health department did a study for the
county, and reported at that time Aspen was already exceeding
the health standards and recommended a fireplace moratorium
then. The state reported the main pollution at that time came
from condominium fireplaces.
John Doremus, representing Aspen Mountain Lodge, said about 25
percent of the residences are duplexes, calculating that allows
7.8 fireplaces per acre. The Aspen Mountain Lodge has 11.69
acres and under the formula they would be allowed 92 fireplaces.
Doremus agreed there is a problem and regulation is necessary,
but it should be regulated per acre or per block to be more
equitable. Doremus said the certified devices in this ordinance
are totally unacceptable to the lodge project. Councilwoman
Walls said she would as soon treat duplexes as any other building
and allow only one certified device per building. Doremus said
he would like the opportunity to research state of the art
emission control. Councilwoman Walls said the Aspen Mountain
Lodge may be a separate issue from this amendment. Counci}woman
Walls said she would be willing to allow a fireplace xn the
lobby; they are removing 78 fireplaces. Ms. Cassin said the
ordinance allows an applicant to go to the CAAB to get some
relief.
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Roll call vote; Councilmembers Isaac, no; Collins, yes; Fallin,
yes; Walls, yes; Mayor Stirling, no. Motion carried.
PGA SENIORS GOLF TOURNAMENT
Jim Holland, parks director, said he has the opportunity to have
the golf course evaluated for a PGA event. There is the oppor-
tunity to get the PGA seniors tour event June 2, 3, 1986.
Holland told Council the PGA seniors have 27 events annually
throughout the country. Holland said he needs money to have the
course evaluated, to hire someone who is capable of organizing an
event like this, and to figure out if the city can afford to
have the event. Holland told Council he has a contract with
Valetie Starr, who has had considerable experience in organizing
senior tournaments. Holland said the timing may be overly
optimistic for 1986. Holland said he needs $5,000 to get
started. Holland said $400,000 needs to be found for sponsor-
ships, amateur entry fees, etc. Holland recommended using
$5,000 out of anticipated golf revenues rather than the general
fund as the golf course is having a good year.
Holland told Council these PGA senior events bring in a big
gallery. Mayor Stifling pointed out this would be during the
shoulder season, which the town is trying to promote. Mayor
Stirling said this is a potential to get the course upgraded and
rated.
Councilman Isaac moved to appropriate $5,000; seconded by Mayor
Stirling. All in favor, motion carried.
CURTON DUPLEX
David White, P & Z member, presented a resolution passed by the
P & Z and urged Council to work with the applicant on the roof
of this structure. White told Council P & Z, as well as staff,
have had complaints and feel this roof is a public nuisance;
something should be done to take the glare off the roof.
Councilman Collins asked what authority there is to permit
Council to request this. White agreed this is a tentative
position. Mayor Stirling said he is reluctant to get involved
with this as there is nothing mentioned in the Code and the
building is not a historical structure.
Doug Allen, representing the applicant, said the roof is bright
because the weather has not dulled it yet. Allen told Council
he is-exploring treating the roof with acid to help dull it.
Councilwoman Fallin said the roof is bright, but it is not a
threat to safety. Council agreed to take no action.
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ORDINANCE #27, SERIES OF 1985 - Water Rate Reform
Mayor Stifling opened the public hearing.
Cindy Shafer, acting finance director, reminded Council the
first reading was in May and there have been revisions to the
ordinance. The ECU table has been added. A change was made in
the'formula to be sure the reserve account was established on an
annual basis. A change clarifies what elements of the system
the city owns and what elements the homeowner owns and who is
responsible for maintenance. There is a change in the calcula-
tion of the surcharge of unmetered customers, changing it to a
flat rate making it easier to administer. The ordinance includes
the rate for the utility investment charge at $3,000; the
current rate is $2700.
Councilwoman Walls asked about the difference between short-term
and long-term occupancy and mixed residential. Ms. Shafer said
the ECUs are different for the type of occupancy. Councilwoman
Walls asked how mixed residential buildings qualify for short or
long term ECUs. Ms. Shafer told Council the definition in the
ordinance is occupancy of 30 days or less is short terms. John
Musick said each mixed residential building has been rated by
the building department. New buildings will decide how they
want to be treated,,and if they want to have individual meters.
CounCilwoman Walls asked who w ill determine how much. of a
building is short term before they go to those ECUS. Ann Ballard
said the water department has used majority use.-
Mayor Stirling closed the public hearing.
Mayor Stifling moved to adopt Ordinance #27, Series of 1985, on
second reading; seconded by Councilwoman Walls.
Mayor Stifling said he would like to get underway with this
water rate reform as it begins to address the inequities in the
system. The Council will have to evaluate the results of this
at budget time. Mayor Stirling said he is concerned about the
ordinance being effective January 1, 1987 and asked why the city
will lose a full year. Ms. Shafer said there is a possibility
this can be implemented in the middle of 1986. Assistant City
Manager Mitchell said this program is contingent upon upgrading
the computer and finishing the software. Mayor Stirling said it
is imperative to do this as soon as possible.
Councilman Collins said he would like to consider continuing
this ordinance as work could be done on it to make it easier for
people to understand. An indication of the ordinance's complex-
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ity is how long it will take to put it on the computer.
Councilman Collins read one of the formulas from the ordinance
to show how incomprehensible it is. Councilman Collins said if
the computer makes a mistake, no one will be able to figure it
out.
Councilman Collins moved to table this until September 23, 1985,
to see if the ordinance can be translated into plain English;
seconded by Councilwoman Walls. Councilman Collins said he
would like to meet with staff on the ordinance before then. All
in favor, with the exception of Councilman Isaac and Mayor
Stifling. Motion carried.
GROUND WATER RIGHTS
John Musick told Council he has recommended adopting a ground
water ordinance since 1970, and the city's water management plan
has form ordinances for this. Previous Council's have not
wanted to adopt this as it is confiscatory, taking away people's
water supply. Musick told Council John Houstin filed on the
tributary and non-tributary water supplies underlying the city,
and the city is involved in litigation. Musick told Council
there is little or no significant known sources on non-tributary
ground water underlying the city and service areas.
Musick told Council the grandfather provision under which the
Colorado Municipal League pointed out there should be a filing
be September 1 is unconstitutional. Musick recommended adopting
an ordinance. Mayor Stifling directed staff to prepare an
ordinance for a continued meeting August 19 at 4 p.m.
ORDINANCE #34, SERIES OF 1985 - Ruedi Rates Policy
Mayor Stirling opened the public hearing. There were no
comments. Mayor Stirling closed the public hearing.
Councilwoman Walls moved to adopt Ordinance ~34, Series of 1985,
on second reading; seconded by Councilman Collins. Roll call
vote; Councilmembers Collins, yes; Walls, yes; Fallin, yes;
Isaac, yea; Mayor Stirling, yes; Motion carried.
ORDINANCE #39, SERIES OF 1985 - Rezoning Sardy Property
Mayor Stifling and Councilman Collins stepped down due to
conflicts of interest. Mayor Pro Tem Walls opened the public
hearing. Steve Burstein, planning Office, told Council one of
the conditions from the conditional use permit that P & Z
granted in April was rezoning of the rear 25 feet of the Sardy
property. This is the final land use review; this project has
~PC approval and has variances from the Board of Adjustment.
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Burstein told Council the rezoning is compatible with the
surrounding uses, and the community needs will be met by the
project.
Mayor Pro Tem Walls closed the public hearing. Councilman Isaac
moved to adopt Ordinance #39, Series of 1985, on second reading;
seconded by Councilwoman Fallin. Roll call vote; Councilmembers
Fallin, yes; Isaac, yes; Mayor Pro Tem Walls, yes. Motion
carried.
ORDINANCE #40, SERIES OF 1985 - Parking Lots in O, Office Zone
Steve Burstein, planning office, told Council this code amendment
allow parking lots as a conditional use in the O, office, zone
providing they are not abutting Main street.
Mayor Stifling opened the public hearing. There were no com-
ments. Mayor Stirling closed the public hearing.
Councilwoman Walls moved to adopt Ordinance #40, Series of 1985,
on second reading; seconded by Councilwoman Fallin. Roll call
vote; Councilmembers Isaac, yes; Fallin, yes; Collins, yes;
Walls, yes; Mayor Stirling, yes. Motion carried.
ORDINANCE #41, SERIES OF 1985 - Procedures for Encroachments
Mayor Stifling opened the public hearing. Elyse Elliott,
engineering department, told Council this amends the Code to
charge $300 for encroachments and adopts a procedure to set
criteria in reviewing requests for encroachments. Mayor
Stirling closed the public hearing.
Councilwoman Walls moved to adopt Ordinance #41, Series of 1985,
on second reading; seconded by Councilman Collins. Roll call
vote; Councilmembers Collins, yes; Isaac, yes; Walls, yes;
Fallin, yes; Mayor Stifling, yes. Motion carried.
ORDINANCE.#42, SERIES OF 1985 - Growth Management Date Changes
Mayor Stifling opened the public hearing. Mayor Stifling said
this changes the lodge growth management submittal date for
one year only. Mayor Stifling asked if the city had received a
commercial application by August 1. Steve Burstein, planning
office said one has been received, which will preclude changing
the commercial submission date. Mayor Stifling closed the
public hearing.
Councilman Isaac moved to adopt Ordinance #42, Series of 1985,
on second reading; seconded by Councilwoman Fallin. Roll call
vote; Councilmembers Walls, yes; Isaac, yes; Collins, yes;
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Fallin, yes; Mayor Stirling, yes; MOtion carried.
ORDINANCE #43, SERIES~OF 1985 - Special Improv'ements District
Mayor Stifling opened the public hearing. Deborah Cartot, bond
counsel, introduced herself. There were no comments. Mayor
Stirling closed the public hearing.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to adopt Ordinance #43, Series of
1985, on second reading.
Councilman Collins asked if this applies to assessment districts.
Ms. Car tot said it is not intended to cover other types of
improvements that may be covered by a capital improvement fund.
This ordinance will apply to any special improvement district
the city creates. Councilman Collins asked if the city, as a
sponsor, is liable for any costs setting up the district. Ms.
Carter said costs are reimbursable if the city chooses. Mal~or
Stifling said the city accepts the liability for the costs if
the district fails.
Roll call vote; Councilmembers Fallin, yes; Collins, yes; Isaac,
yes; Walls, yes; Mayor Stirling~ yes. Motion carried.
ORDINANCE #44, SERIES OF 1985 - Ruedi Transmission Agreement
Mayor Stifling opened the public hearing.
Mark Fuller said the indemnification language in the previous
agreement committed the city and county to hold harmless both
utility companies against any damages sustained in the project.
Fuller told Council he discussed this with the }]oly Cross
attorney, and convinced them according to the Colorado constitu-
tion, governments are forbidden from indemnifying third parties.
The new language commits the city and county to insuring the
utility companies up to a certain limit. Colorado Ute and ~oly
Cross have accepted that. Fuller said the county's insurance has
named third parties as co-insured in the past.
Mayor Stifling closed the public hearing.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to Adopt Ordinance #44, Series of
1985, as amended on second reading.
Councilman Collins asked about the termination clause. Assistant
City Manager Mitchell said there is a one year written notice
termination. Fuller said he attempted to get some assurance
from the utility companies if this agreement is terminated, they
would give reason; they refused.
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Roll call vote; Councilmembers Collins, yes; Walls, yes; Fallin,
yes; Isaac, yes; Mayor Stirling, yes. Motion carried.
ORDINANCE #45, SERIES OF 1985 - Moratorium/Woodburning Devices
Mayor Stifling opened the public hearing.
JoSeph Meyer, Clean Air Advisory Board, told Council said he has
been hearing if Aspen eliminates fireplaces, they will lose
tourists. Meyer pointed out people do not come here because the
air is like the big cities.
Mayor Stifling closed the public hearing.
Councilwoman Walls moved to adopt Ordinance #45, Series of 1985,
on second reading; seconded by Councilwoman Fallin.
Mayor Stirling said he is in favor of this with modifications
but does not feel it is an emergency and a moratorium is not
appropriate. Mayor Stifling said he feels this moratorium will
put people at a disadvantage.
Roll call vote; Councilmembers Collins, yes; Walls, yes; Isaac,
no; Fallin, yes; Mayor Stifling, no. Motion carried.
ORDINANCE #46, SER-]eES OF 1985 - Senior Citizens Water Rates
P01 icy'
Councilwoman Walls moved to read Ordinance #46, Series of 1985;
seconded by Councilwoman Fallin. All in favor, motion carried.
ORDINANCE # 46
Series of 1985
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING DIVISION 3 ARTICLE .III OF
CHAPTER 23 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE OF THE CITY OF ASPEN,
COLORADO, ENTITLED "WATER RATES AND CHARGES" (AND
THEREBY AMENDING ORDINANCE nO. 3, 1983 SECTION 2)
SETTING FORTH A PROVISION FOR DEALING WITH QUALIFIED
SENIOR CITIZENS was read by the city clerk
Councilwoman Walls moved to adopt Ordinance #46, Series of 1985,
on first reading;seconded by Mayor Stifling.
Judy McKenzie, utility department, said staff decided to set a
special rate for senior citizens for water charges. Ms. McKenzie
told Council social service requirements, age, and location will
set the limit on the water. Ms McKenzie said the social services
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department will send out the forms for qualification for this
program. Jim Markalunas, water department, recommended elimina-
ting the limit of $25,000 in assets or at least exclude the
place of residence. Markalunas told Council the old timers do
not waste water and should be given a break.
Roll call vote; Councilmembers Fallin, yes; Isaac, yes; Walls,
yes; Collins, yes; Mayor Stirling, yes. Motion carried.
LONE P~NE WATER- E~ISPUTE
Start Snyder, Lone Pine treasurer, told Council they have been
through city staff and have not be able to resolve this issue.
Snyder said when the residents moved in, the developer told them
the sod roofs on the free market side were private property, and
the employee residents were not to use the roofs. At that time,
they were paying 3 separate water bills until it was discovered
one of the bills was for the sod roofs. This was brought to the
attention of the water department, who gave credit against
future bills. Snyder said the residents feel the city admitted
and corrected their mistake.
Snyder said the water to the sod roofs was shut off, the sod
died, and the city was trying to bill the free market units for
this water. The city tried to collect for 2-1/2 years, were
unsuccessful and put liens on the employee units. Snyder said
since there has been no satisfaction, they have come to Council.
The total amount of the 'liens is about $1100. Judy McKenzie,
utility department, told Council the meter was attached to the
employee units but it watered the free market units. Ms.
McKenzie said she could not lien the free market units. This is
a problem between the free market and employee units.
Rick Snyder, manager, said it was a plumbing error which cause
the meter to be attached to the employee units. Batty Edwards,
attorney's office, told Council all the city can do is assert
their lien rights. If there was a pl~Lmbing error, it is unfortu-
nate, but the city cannot go inspect where the water is going.
Mayor Stirling said the city should try and correct this. Rick
Neiley, representing the applicant, said the free market units
took the account in their name, and somewhere it was changed to
the employee units.
Councilman Isaac said he would like the city manager's office to
pursue receiving funds from the free market units and reimburse
the employee units. Mitchell said the staff did pursue getting
the money from the free market units; the city cannot lien the
free markets unit because the meter was attached to the employee
units.
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Mayor Stifling moved the Council forgive the amount of the lien
on the controlled units, and have the city manager's office work
with the free market units to get reimbursement; seconded by
Councilman Collins. Councilman Collins clarified the motion was
to pay the lien and reimburse those who have paid their portion
off. Mayor Stifling said his motion was to give $1100 to the
homeowners association and let them work it out. All in favor,
with the exception of Councilman Isaac. Motion carried.
MQORE POOL -SEASON- EXTENSION
Jim Holland, parks director, told Council there has been support
in the past for extending the pool season. There is an opportun-
ity this summer to extend the season to see if the demand is
really out there, and would be a good indicator for the future
seasons. Mayor Stifling said this is extremely expensive way to
study extending the season. Mayor Stirling said this money
could be spent-towards covering the pool. Kelly Kelley, pool
director, told Council these costs were estimated at the high
end and the new ozonator will save chemical costs.
Councilwoman Walls questioned keeping the pool open all the way
through November when the weather starts to get bad. Kelley told
Council she would be willing to try this on a month-by-month
basis. Kelley told Council she is not in favor of covering the
pool; there are other items that should be taken care of first.
The plumbing is in terrible shape. Kelley said she does not feel
the demand is there for winter, but would like to try fall to see
if the demand is really there.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to extend the closing of the Moore
pool to October 15; seconded by Councilman Collins.
Mayor Stifling said this will have to come out of the general
fund, and the Council has already made an additional allocation
out of that fund for streets. Cindy Shafer, finance department,
said the contingency fund has been used up, any other expendi-
tures will reduce the fund balance. Ms. Shafer said this is
not a type of action Council should be doing on a continuing
basis.
All in favor, with the exception of Councilman Isaac and Mayor
Stifling. Motion carried.
JENNY ADAIR PARK-R~PORT
Jim Holland, parks director, reminded Council they had asked
staff to find out of the streets department could handle some
trucking costs for the dredging of three retention ponds. Of
the $15,000 in trucking costs, the streets department can save
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$4,000. The trucks will not be available until after September
15. The total cost for this project will be $16,000. Mayor
Stifling asked if this cost could be taken from the maintenance
portion of the land fund. Cindy Shafer, finance department,
said the 25 percent of the land fund has all been budgeted.
Mayor Stirling said he would be interested in adjusting the
75/25 provision in the land fund. Assistant City Manager Ron
Mitchell suggested continuing this item so staff can examine the
land fund.
ENCROACHMENT. REQUEST - Playhouse Theatre
Elyse Elliott, engineering department, recommended Council
approve this encroachment license for the Stage Three theatre.
There is an existing canopy and they are proposing to add 7
acrylic pyramids to the canopy. Ms. Elliott said the canopy
is a benefit to the public, and granting this encroachment would
recognize the existing encroachment. Dave Gibson told Council
the encroachment will not be enlarged or extended. Gibson told
Council this canopy is on the north side of the building and it
is very dark. They would like to bring in some natural light.
Councilman Isaac moved to approve the encroachment request;
seconded by Councilwoman Walls. All in favor, motion carried.
MINING & STEAM E~a~BIT
Carl Bergman, representing the Aspen Historical Society, told
Council for a number of years they have wanted to have a struc-
ture to house a mining and ranching exhibit. Bergman told
Council they are interested in moving the Marolt barn to the
historical society's land. Mrs. Marolt has possession of the
barn until August 1986. Bergman told Council this building will
be 5 feet lower than it is now. Bergman said there would be a
ranching exhibit upstairs and mining downstairs. Bergman said
the engines run on steam and they are silent. Bergman told
Council the steam engine exhibit will rival the Smithsonian
Institute.
Bergman said the historical society will pay for moving the
barn, and requested assistance from the electric department in
lifting the wires. Councilwoman Walls asked about the neighbors.
Bergman told Council he will see all the neighbors personally.
Mayor Stifling directed staff to look into the legal conse-
quences, liability in terms of moving the building, the feeling
of the surrounding neighbors, and to work with the historical
society and make a recommendation to Council no later than
September 9.
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PLAT RECORDING~REQUtREMENT - Aspen Mountain Lodge
Alan Richman, planning director, told Council Section 20-14(e)
of the Code states the plat expires 90 days after approval if
the plat is not recorded. The Aspen Mountain Lodge plat has not
been recorded because staff is trying to protect the public to
make sure all requirements Council asked for get into the
recorded documents. The staff has been working with the appli-
cant, and are not ready to record the plat. Richman said Council
has the ability in 20-19(c) to waive requirements of the subdivi-
sion regulations. Staff is recommending Council extend this
requirement to no later than December 1st. Richman explained
December 1st brings all portions of this project together on the
same date.
Mayor Stifling moved to extend the expiration date for this
project to December 1, 1985; seconded by Councilwoman Fallin.
Art Daily, representing the applicant, stated he does not feel
an extension is necessary. The approval granted by Council May
20, 1985, was an approval contingent upon the city attorney
stating the plat was ready for signing by the city. Daily said
until the city attorney is satisfied, he does not feel the city
approval described in the Code has taken place. Councilman
Collins said he would prefer to have a 90 day extension.
Richman said December 1 is when the growth management allocation
will expire, so this date is the cleanest.
All in favor, with the exception of Councilman Collins. Motion
carried.
OPEN SPACE F~MMENT- ENEM}RSEMENT RESOLUTION
Mayor Stifling said a significant concept in this resolution is
consolidating playing fields versus leaving them in a decentral-
ized basis. Tom Baker, planning Office, said the P & Z agreed
there was no best solution for the playing fields. Baker said
P & Z chose to consolidate new fields north of Iselin park for
visual as well as practical reasons. Baker said the resolution
does not address the consolidation concept as a consensus was
not reached. Mayor Stifling said he feels the village scale is
better served with the decentralized approach.
Mayor Stirling urged Council to revise the resolution adding
language to support the decentralized approach. Roger Hunt,
P & Z suggested a joint study session with P & Z to go over both
concepts. Councilwoman Fallin said she likes the resolution the
way it is because it is flexible. P & Z did a lot of studying
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and determined the playing field would be better at Iselin for
practical reasons. This is to be a long term plan.
Councilman Isaac moved to adopt Resolution #18, Series of 1985;
seconded by Councilwoman Fallin. All in favor, with the excep-
tion of Mayor Stirling. Motion carried.
TROLL EY-.- SYSTBM.~{~PDATE
Mayor Stifling said Council needs to determine what is to be
accomplished with the trolleys. Alan Richman, planning director,
told Council staff has met with the Roaring Fork Transit Agency
and is developing a scope of work for the transportation element
for the Aspen metro area. Richman said the report will include
areas where staff can deal with the plan and areas that consul-
tants would be appropriate. Richman said the transportation
element should give enough input data to know where a shuttle
route would most effectively serve the downtown area. The
transportation element should also indicate the volumes of
traffic the shuttle system would need to handle. After that,
either a transportation or trolley consultant could use that
information to make a determination if the equipment the city has
is suited to those needs. The trolley system will be one of the
options in the transportation element and the downtown circula-
tion plan.
Jon Busch said Council has to decide at least where to store the
trolleys before they are totally destroyed. Busch said there is
support for the trolleys from all elements of the community.
Mark Bassett, Fort Collins Railways, told Council their trolley
project started in 1977. Fort Collins was the last city in
Colorado to have trolleys. Fort Collins decided to rebuild
their trolley and in the process the idea developed to make the
car operational. In 1980 a group formed the Fort Collins
Municipal Railway Society. Bassett said the only things they
asked the city of Fort Collins was use of city equipment and use
of the trolley barn. Bassett said this group built a barn and
restored some track.
Bassett said the trolleys do not pollute and are not noisy.
Bassett said their trolley system has been very successful, and
was restored by volunteers. Bassett said trolleys are less
noisy than trucks and buses. Bassett told Council trolleys are
one of the most efficient means of moving anything. Councilwoman
Walls asked if there are plans for restoration of the trolleys.
Busch said he would like Council to consider two possibilities;
(1) store the trolleys in the bus barn and to contract for
restoration of the cars through RFTA's budget surplus. Busch
said the trolleys are legitimate mass transit vehicles and are
being considered as pert of the transportation system.
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Second, the trolleys costs $16,000 delivered to Aspen, and in
realistic terms the real market value of the trolleys is above
$16,000 per trolley. The city has had offers to buy the trolleys
for $5,000 as they are. Busch said if the city restores the
trolleys, and decides to sell them, they can be sold at a price
in excess of what it cost to restore them. Busch told Council
he received a formal recommendation from the Commissioners that
Council should formally request RFTA to store the trolleys until
a final decision is made.
Gaard Moses told Council it would cost $10,000 per trolley to
restore them, and he would form a group to restore them. Moses
told Council the bodies of the cars are in good shape. Mayor
Stirling asked if the Fort Collins trolley runs in the winter.
Basset said because their car is a museum piece, they do not;
however, the cars did run in the winter from 1919 to 1952.
Busch told Council the Aspen Railway Company got an estimate on
restoring the Trolleys of $10,000 per car but they had to be
trucked to California. There may be an extra cost to redo the
motors of about $2,000. Moses told Council one of the trolleys
has already been restored, and there is expertise in Aspen to
restore the trolleys to mint condition. Councilwoman Walls
said the trolleys have to be relocated. in order to protect them.
Councilman Isaac said he would like to see the trolleys put
together by the private sector and have the city given them
back. Helen Klanderud told Council RFTA is going to do a
transportation development plan which will address transportation
concerns and what should be funded. Mayor Stifling said he
feels the commitment to the trolleys is beginning to emerge, and
they could become part of the overall transportation element.
The trolleys are part of Aspen's history. Mayor Stirling said
he likes the idea of a private/public partnership.
Councilwoman Walls moved Council go to the earliest RFTA meeting
and request space in their barn for the trolleys; seconded by
Councilwoman Fallin. All in favor, motion carried.
1984~ C~)MMI~T~ M~ REPeRT-eN ~hFTA
Mayor Stifling requested Council read the report and to make it
the basis for the study session August 19.
REARING ~ORK- E4~ST- NE~IS~BORH~DOD-MASTER PLAN
Glenn Horn, planning Office, told Council this plan is important
with respect to annexation. Horn suggested Council continue
this to September 9 along with the Smuggler annexation.
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CONCEPTUAL PUD - Agate Court
Alan Richman, planning director, reminded Council at a previous
work session they reviewed the issues of this project. Richman
said a PUD is to achieve certain purposes; promoting more
efficient use of land and public streets, preserving open
space, preserving the site's unique features, and a beneficial
land use relationship with surrounding properties. Richman said
this plan could promote more efficient use of land and streets
if access is limited to the alley and the alley is closed at
7th street. There would be more efficient use of land and
streets if there was not the inter-relation with the highway,
which is a problem here.
Richman said he does not feel this PUD preserves open space.
This project is preserving the site's unique features in attempt-
ing to preserve trees. Regarding the beneficial land use
relationship with surrounding properties, Richman said there i s
concern about the location of the duplexes. Richman presented a
map with the proposed state highway alignment and the lot lines.
P & Z discussed increasing the buffer along 7th street. The
buffer is presently 8 feet wide. Richman suggested the duplexes
come off a lots A and K as a compromise. This would preserve
open space, move the duplexes away from the highway and create a
beneficial land use relationship. Richman told Council his
preferred approach is to not build on lots A and B and K and L.
Richman said if the applicant moves the duplexes off lots A and
K, it should not affect the density of the project, which is
proposed 10 units. Richman said he does have a problem with the
proximity, but he feels it would be acceptable to vary setbacks
between buildings, which is appropriate in a PUD. P & Z has
recommended approval with 12 conditions. Richman has identified
5 areas where the conditions can be amended or improved. One is
the suggestion for building envelopes on the other six lots,
which the applicant does not have a problem with.
The applicant has requested flexibility in driveway and footprint
locations at the preliminary plat stage toward the benefit of
saving the trees. Richman said giving the flexibility resulting
in preservation of the trees is a worthwhile trade off. Richman
told Council P & Z condition #8 was that the duplexes not be
condominiumized for 5 years. Richman told Council staff cannot
support that condition, and recommend it be eliminated. The
applicant has requested condition #9 be clarified so that
the applicant is not double taxed for the cost of undergrounding
utilities.
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Doug Allen, representing the applicant, told COuncil they are
in agreement with conditions 3, 4, 5 in the planning office
memorandum. Allen said they do not agree to sterilize 2 or 4
lots in the project. Allen submitted the study of Mach 1985
regarding the highway with the costs of the alternatives. The
cost of aligning the highway by the Agate is $5,000,000 versus
$1,600,000 for the "straight shot". Allen said everyone agrees
the "straight shot" is the preferred alternative; it costs less
and makes more engineering sense. Allen said it is not realistic
to believe the highway would come by the Agate.
Allen said it is not fair to deal with this property and steril-
ize 2 or 4 lots when there is a development the planning office
concedes has merits and retains the character of the west end.
Allen said if the developer has to pull back, they lose two
units. This property is allowed 12 units; the developer is only
asking for 10 units, and presently there are 24 units on the
property. This would be reducing the density and there will be
about 40,000 square feet of open space. Allen told Council
there are 31 trees on the lot; they can preserve 27 trees and
are asking permission to move 2 trees and transplant 2 trees.
Allen told Council the applicant would prefer alternative #3 in
the planning office memo, which is approve the conceptual plan
with P & Zs conditions, which defer the detailed design issues
to preliminary PUD review. Allen said the condition regarding
the building envelopes is appropriate at preliminary plat rather
than conceptual. Richman agreed to that. Allen said the
applicant is opposed to sterilizing the lots, which destroys the
pr oj ect.
Councilman Collins said he thought the applicant had an alterna-
tive plan. Richman said the applicant originally was going to
market the lots with no design of the two duplexes, to create
complete individuality of the 10 units. The P & Z insisted on
seeing the design of the front two duplexes because of the
visual questions and the extent of the setbacks. Councilman
Collins said even if the highway comes straight in, there will
be a lot of traffic here from Cemetery Lane and the Institute.
Councilman Collins said he would prefer to see the duplexes
moved back and give some concessions with the footprints.
Butch Clark said this street would cease to be the entrance to
Aspen. The state is not going to spend $5,000,000 to build a
highway. Clark agreed 7th street will be a key street but will
not be any different than any other arteries. Councilman
Collins said he would like to keep the options open. Richman
said the point of PUD is to preserve open space for the benefit
of the public, not just for private open space. Richman said
PUD is a subdivision wherein there is a departure from the usual
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design of regularly platted lots. Richman said he feels the
city has the right to ask for these lots for the benefit of the
public and the surrounding neighborhOOd, not just for the
benefit of the purchasers of the lots. Councilwoman Walls said
the purpose for the PUD on this property was to have control
over some proposed large project. The applicant just wants to
revert to single lots like the rest of the west end. Council-
woman Walls said she feels this is an excellent project for this
parcel. Councilwoman Walls said the city is not requiring other
property owners in the west end to provide a lot of open space
for the public.
Mayor Stifling said he feels the PUD is appropriate for this
block. In a PUD there needs to be a sense of a benefit to the
general public. This is a unique block. Clark said this block
would be the only block that had to move back. Councilman
Collins pointed out the city made the Villas move back. Mayor
Stirling agreed with pushing back the lots on 7th street. Mayor
Stirling said there is still the potential to do duplexes on 7th
street. Allen said when you take 30 feet out of a lot, you have
substandard lots and the character of the west end is not
maintained. Mayor Stirling urged the Council to require all 5
conditions, which would give the best combination of a PUD with
single family and duplex units and would provide benefits for the
community. Mayor Stirling said he feels 10 units works and will
continue to work with the buffer along Main street.
Allen said this buffer will not be used as a park even if it is
30 feet. Allen said when you make the lots smaller, it will
impinge on every property on the block. Allen said they are not
asking for any variance in FAR. Allen said to sterilize two lots
will crowd the houses together. Councilman Collins said he
would like the city to have the opportunity for the 30 foot
setback. Richman told Council it is clear if the units abut the
blue line, and the highway is constructed on this alignment, the
units will have to be taken. Clark said no one believes
the highway will be on this alignment; it is not reasonable.
Councilman Isaac moved to approve the conceptual PUD for the
Agate Court subject to conditions 1, 3, 4, 5 in the planning
office memorandum of August 12, 1985; seconded by Councilwoman
Wall s.
Mayor Stirling said it is a bad precedent not to have a buffer
along 7th street for all the reasons that have been discussed.
Clark said a precedent is being set by picking out one property
and treating it entirely differently. Mayor Stirling said this
block is unique in its character and different from other blocks
in the west end.
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Councilmembers Isaac and Walls in favor; Councilmembers Fallin,
Collins and Mayor Stirling opposed. Motion NOT carried.
Mayor Stifling moved to approve the Agate Court conceptual PUD
subject to conditions in the P & Z resolution 85-10 and condit-
ions 1 through 5 in the planning office memorandum; seconded by
Councilwoman Fall in.
Allen said Council is using the PUD in an extractive manner.
The applicant is not trying to build something offensive on the
land, but to offer for sale traditional west end lots. If the
city wants the two end lots, they should buy the lots and not
take them with no compensation. Barry Edwards, attorney ' s
office, disagreed and said the city is not taking anything.
Mayor Stifling reiterated a PUD is a subdivision where there is
a departure from the usual design characterized by a combination
of the following design approaches, averaged lot area, clustering
of development, architectural clustering as well as open space
and benefits to the general public. Mayor Stirling said this
recommendation comes the closest to combining good potential for
the developer and a general benefit to the community. Richman
said the Council is approving the density, not taking away, but
suggesting locations of the buildings. Councilwoman Walls asked
if it would be possible to put a duplex on the other two lots.
Richman said with an innovative design, it would be possible.
All in favor, with the exception of Councilmembers Isaac and
Walls. Motion carried.
CONSE~T~ AGENDA
Councilwoman Walls moved to approve the consent agenda; seconded
by Councilman Collins. The consent agenda is Liquor License
renewals; Roaring Fork & Spoon, Aspen Art Museum; MEAN Resolu-
tion. All in favor, motion carried.
Councilwoman Fallin moved to continue the meeting to 3:45 p.m.
Monday, August 19, 1985; seconded by Councilwoman Walls. All in
favor, motion carried. Council left Chambers at 10:30 p.m.
City Clerk
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