HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.council.19850829Continued Meeting Aspen City Council August 29, 1985
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REOUEST FOR FUNDS.-.N~r~i~ Council 1
REOUEST FOR FUNDS - Commercial Core and
Lodging Commission 3
Continued Meeting Aspen City Council August 29, 1985
Councilman Collins called the meeting to order at 3:40 p.m. with
Councilmembers Isaac and Fallin present.
REOUEST FOR FUNDS - Nordic Council
Craig Ward, representing the Nordic Council, presented several
projects to be jointly funded by the city~nd Aspen/Snowmass
Nordic Council. For example, the total cost for the Sawmill -
Marolt/Thomas project is $100,000; $90,000 funded by the city
and $10,000 by the Nordic Council. The total for all projects
is $161,000 for the city, and the Nordic Council has come up
with $49,000. One of the projects in this list is a winter/
summer trails brochure. The city cannot fund a summer brochure
out of the 6th penny, so it should be deleted from this list.
Ward told Council the Nordic Council is in the process of doing
their winter brochure.
Councilman Isaac asked if all the projects can be done before
winter. Ward said the walking bridge from the Rio Grande to the
Institute and the skiing/biking bridge at the confluence of
Castle/Roaring Fork are two bridges that the Meadows project is
doing a master plan for. Ward told Council the Nordic Council
has money appropriated from people for those bridges, they can
keep the money in trust that has been pledged from individuals
until the master plan is completed. The two projects that could
be completed this year are the Sawmill to Marolt/Thomas and the
Aspen Club to Little Nell trails, which are the most important.
Councilwoman Fallin asked where the Rio Grande to Institute two
walking bridges are to be located. Ward said one will be at the
east end of Pitkin Reserve project, and the other will be at the
west end of the project. Mayor Stifling asked if the developer
of the Pitkin Reserve project had been approached about helping
fund the bridges. Ward said he had not approached the developer.
Betty Grindlay is approaching property owners that would benefit
from these bridges. Ward said in two previous work sessions
$200,000 had been approved unanimously for bridges and trails.
Ward said he would like a strong commitment from the city to
fund the first two projects as outlined, as there is a strong
commitment from individuals and the Nordic Council to get these
projects done.
Ward said the Sawmill project needs an assessment of future
plans, the consensus of Council was to get the bridge and trail
in. Ward said this is an important link, and he would like to
see the work done this fall. Councilman Isaac said the city
does not have the easement across the Sawmill property. City
Manager Schilling told Council he has presumed that this project
will end up being a city project with the assistance of the PCPA
and Nordic Council, on items the city has neither the time nor
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expertise to do. Wards said the Nordic Council would build the
bridge and the city will do the trail and the easement. Ward
said he would be willing to sign off on the bridge once it is
built and give it to the city. Mayor Stirling said when Council
passed the money for trails, Council asked for recommendations in
terms of demands on the trails and on-going maintenance. Schil-
ling told Council through the process to acquire the trails, the
staff was constantly re-evaluating the trails system. The
planning office has gone through the planning process for
the trails and the proposals are consummate with the plan in
progress.
Herb Klein, representing Dick Berk and Ron Seedman who own a
house right next to the Sawmill property, told Council the trail
alignment would be about 15 feet from the house. The cut into
the hillside would direct skiers right at their house. Klein
said an appraiser said there would be about a $50,000 diminution
value to their property as a result of the trail alignment.
Klein said there are additional costs in condemnation that are
not reflected in staff's memo. Klein said there is no house
presently on the Sawmill property, and his clients would like to
see the trail on the other side of the property. Klein said if
the trail were to be in another location on the Sawmill property,
it would cost about $120,000 rather than $78,000 in the present
location. Klein pointed out if the diminution to his client's
property is added, the figure would be about $128,000. Klein
said the owner of Sawmill property has the ability to build his
house to mitigate the impact of the trail. Klein said relocating
the trail may eliminate very substantial costs in excavating
across the bank. Klein said there is extreme visual impact with
the proposed cut. Klein requested Council make a site visit to
see the impact, view the crossing, the slope. Klein said there
are numerous alternatives for this trail. Klein said his
clients are not against the concept of the trail, but this is
moving too fast. Klein said A.C.E.S is concerned about a low
bridge because of the river bottom ecology.
Hal Clark said he does not support building the low bridge
because it will not get a lot of use. Clark said he does not
believe the cost estimates are valid nor is the cross cut valid,
it will be a 5 to 1 slope when it should be a 2 to 1 slope.
Clark said he feels the community will benefit from a high
bridge across the river at this point. Clark told Council he
agreed with Klein that where the easement should go has not been
defined. Clark said he feels this needs more thought before
anything is built.
Councilman Collins said it is almost September and there are
many matters that should be resolved before anything is con-
structed. Ward told Council many people and foundations have
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contributed money to specific projects on this list. Mayor
Stirling suggested if this money is not allocated for 1985, Ward
should be present at the budget hearings to reaffirm that money
is kept for trails and bridges. Council scheduled a site visit
for Monday September 2 at 12:30 p.m.
Ward said the project that remains is connecting above the Aspen
Alps to the Aspen Club. This project has been bid on by Aspen
Earthmoving. This project was started last year with high
school students and is about half complete. The Nordic Council
is working on easements for the trail west of this. Ward said
$16,000 is needed from the city for excavation and removal.
Ward showed Council where the existing trail is; they plan to
improve it and build a bridge.
Mayor Stifling moved to allocate $16,000 from the monies in the
capital improvement trails toward the Aspen Club/Little Nell
trail to be completed in the fall of 1985; seconded by Council-
woman Fallin.
Councilman Isaac asked that Ward talk to the Aspen Club owner
and try to get a contribution to this trail. Councilman Collins
asks if the city contributes funds, is it necessary for the
Nordic Council to follow city procedures and get three bids,
etc. Ward said he would be willing to report to the city
manager or to have a city staff person on the project. City
Manager Schilling told Council the Nordic Council will have to
get permits from the city for this project, or the city itself
could be the contractor. Schilling said he would like the
latitude to work this out the most straightforward way so that
everyone is protected. Councilman Collins said if the city is
giving the Nordic Council money, there should be a procedure.
Mayor Stifling amended his motion to direct the city manager to
work with the Nordic Council to establish procedures and to have
accountability; seconded by Councilwoman Fallin. All in favor,
motion carried.
REOUEST FOR FUNDS - Commercial Core and Lodging Commission
Elyse Elliott, engineering department, reminded Council at the
August 6 work session, CCLC presented plans for phase II of the
lighting project, which is the Main street corridor and the
commercial core. The CCLC proposes to place refurbished antique
lights along Main street. These antique lights were removed
from the mall. In the commercial core, the CCLC proposes to
install new antique fixtures from the same manufacturer as those
installed in the mall. Ms. Elliott told Council they are
requested funds for implementation of phase II, $20,000 for the
refurbishing of 60 city-owned antique lights, which is about
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$300 each. Councilman Isaac asked if the CCLC got bids on this
project. Ms. Elliott told Council the Welding Company is the
only firm in town that can do this work. Councilman Collins
suggested this work should be advertised. Gary Plumley, chairman
of CCLC, said the Welding company has repaired these in the past
and has done a good job. Councilwoman Fallin said she would
rather have the money spent locally. Council suggested advertis-
ing to see if any other firms are interested.
Mayor Stirling moved to allocate up to $20,000 to begin refur-
bishing the city's antique lights, ask the engineering department
to solicit additional bids and to make the decision within these
financial guidelines; seconded by Councilman Isaac. All in
favor, motion carried.
Plumley said this is a good investment for valuable lights that
the city owns. The light fixtures will be covered and ready for
installation next spring. Ms. Elliott told Council the CCLC is
asking for $48,000 to do a sample block in the commercial core.
The CCLC feels it is necessary to do a sample block before
construction next spring. This block will produce information
on construction problems and determine the aesthetics of the
different lighting standards. Ms. Elliott told Council doing
this sample block is no more costly than doing the entire
co~nercial core.
Councilman Isaac moved to approve the mock block of $48,000;
seconded by Mayor Stifling
Councilman Collins said he would like to know what is going on
with the contractual arrangements with the design team, construc-
tion manager, and contractors. Councilman Collins said he
would like to see the original contract with the architect, and
where the city is with the various phases of this project.
Plumley told Council because of problems in the first phase, the
CCLC has been cautious in the relationship with the architect.
Plumley said the second phase takes block by block planning
because each block is different. Plumley said an electrical
engineer will do the working drawings for this phase. Plumley
said the architects have offered to reimburse the city for some
monies received. Ms. Elliott told Council staff has solicited
construction management teams, and they all feel a mock up block
is a good idea.
All in favor, motion carried.
Diane Newhoff, South Carolina, complained to Council about Don
Lemos' parking lot. Ms. Newhoff parked there, there was no sign
at the entrance to the parking lot, a boot was placed on her
car, and she was required to pay cash to have the car released.
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Mayor Stifling said this is a private lot, Council has had
complaints before. Council asked City Manager Schilling to m
meet with Lemos to see if anything could be worked out.
Councilman Isaac moved to adjourn at 4:40 p.m.; seconded by
Councilwoman Fallin. All in favor, motion carried.
City Clerk