HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.council.19851015Mayor Stirling called the meeting to order at 5:00 p.m. with
Councilmembers Collins, Isaac, Walls and Fallin present.
MINUTES
Councilwoman Walls moved to approve the minutes of September 9,
1985; seconded by Councilwoman Fallin. All in favor, motion
carried.
CITIZEN PARTICIPATION
1. Ed Adelson, lessee of space in the Wheeler Opera House,
said he thought his item was scheduled on this agenda. Adelson
told Council he would like permission to sublease his space.
This request has been approved by the Wheeler Board. Adelson
explained he will not be able to be present at a later date, and
the new tenant, Janie Beggs, flew in for this meeting. Also, Ms.
Beggs needs time to work on the space. Dwight Shellman told
Council they need to approve an assignment of this lease.
Councilman Isaac moved to add this to the agenda; seconded by
Councilwoman Walls. All in favor, motion carried.
COUNCILMEMBER COMMENTS
1. Councilwoman Fallin requested that the financial advisory
board be discussed at a work session. Mayor Stifling said
October 21 is budget hearing 1 to 4 p.m.; there is a joint work
session with the Commissioners from 4 to 5 p.m., and 5 to 6 p.m.
will be the financial advisory board discussions.
2. Mayor Stifling said October 24, 1985, will be proclaimed as
United Nations Day. There are two co-chairpersons, Heidi Roupp
and Mardell Burkholder. There are events being planned for that
day.
3. Mayor Stifling said October 6 through 12 was proclaimed
Domestic Violence week with sessions held in relation to the
growing problem of domestic violence.
4. Mayor Stifling said the winning team of the Mayor's Cup
golf tournament was a repeat team of Sally Fitzgerald, Dick
Fitzgerald, Jim Gibbons and others. It was a magnificent day.
5. Mayor Stirling announced October 16 is budget hearings for
the asset replacement fund requests and arts requests. October
17 will be the non-profit requests.
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City Manager Schilling said the P & Z has requested a joint
discussion on October 29 regarding transportation. Council
agreed to the meeting.
ASSIC~NMENT OF LEASE - Wheeler/Happy Road
City Attorney Taddune told Council the Wheeler leases provide
the spaces shall not be assigned without the consent of the
city, and such consent shall not be unreasonably withheld.
Taddune said the Council should know what is going on in city
facilities. Taddune said the Wheeler Board has considered this
proposal and has endorsed it. Jane Beggs told Council this will
be a contemporary art gallery with about 6 shows a year. Dwight
Shellman showed the proposed alteration of the space. There
should be a change by deleting the word "French art and antiques
to "art and Antiques" in the agreement.
Mayor Stirling moved to approve the assignment of Happy Road,
Inc. lease to Janie Beggs Fine Arts, Ltd., subject to scrutiny
by the city manager, and to authorize the city manager to sign
the assignment; seconded by Councilman Isaac. All in favor,
motion carried.
LITTLE NELL SPA PUBLIC HEARING
Mayor Stirling submitted letters regarding this project into
the record. There are 5 in support, 4 from Aspen Square resi-
dents. There are 17 in opposition to the hotel aspect of the
project, 15 of which are owners of Aspen Square properties.
There are 3 letters in support of the project with specific
recommendations.
Alan Richman, planning director, recommended this discussion
focus on the growth issue. The growth issue is a threshhold
question in this application that Council has to address, even
though no growth management application has been submitted.
Richman pointed out because of the allocations already granted,
there are no lodge units available for allocation in 1985. The
question is what year is the city in in GMP lodge allocations,
which depends on some assumptions regarding two growth management
exemptions. There are two exemptions that apply which affect
the growth management quota. One is the change in use exemption
which requires the lodge quota be credited when lodge units are
taken out of the inventory. The Alpina Haus and Copper Horse are
scheduled to be taken out of the inventory and could be credited
to L-l, L-2 or the L-3 quota. Richman said staff has chosen to
credit the L-3 quota with 54 lodge units from the Alpina Haus
and Copper Horse conversion to deed restricted units. If Council
wants to credit these 54 units to the L-l, L-2 quota, there would
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be more units available. Also, there is a historic properties
exemption, requiring units added to a historic property be
deducted from the quotas. In 1985 there are 20 new lodge units
being added to the Sardy property. There is also approval for
67 additional units to the Hotel Jerome. Richman said Council
can make the determination there is an L-l, L-2 quota of 34 units
available as early as 1986 or as late as 1989. This depends on
the decisions and assumptions of the Council. Richman said this
type of numerical analysis is the narrowest way of looking at the
growth issue.
Richman pointed out the code does provide a definite mechanism
to consider a multi-year allocation. The issue is not whether
council cam give a multi- year allocation but whether they
should. Council should focus on why there is a growth management
system and what it is trying to accomplish. Richman said he
feels the purpose of the GMP is to anticipate growth and to
direct the way the community grows to achieve quality of life and
community balanced goals. The numbers do help answer whether the
city is achieving the quality of life and goals. The applicant
has provided Council very important piece of information, which
is that no new units have been built in the lodge areas since the
inception of the growth management system in 1977. Richman said
if the question was to be asked, is this what the community was
trying to achieve, most people would agree this is not a desir-
able achievement. Richman said this is only half the numerical
analysis. The other half of the analysis is the backlog of
projects which have been approved, but the impact of these
projects has yet to be felt. These are the Aspen Mountain Lodge,
the ~otel Jerome addition, the Sardy house, and others. Richman
noted in the past few years there has been a significant level of
activity in the lodging sector, even though it has not been the
downtown lodging section. Since 1983, the city increased
the lodge quota from 18 to 35 units, rezoned lodges to L-3 and
created a new L-3 GMP quota, there have been major upgrades and
reconstruction. These are ~otel Jerome, Hotel Lenado, Nugget,
Applejack, and Independence Lodge. These current upgrades begin
to get at what the community was trying to achieve with the L-3
zone. Richman said the numbers analysis is not the only way to
look at the applicant's multi-allocation request. Richman quoted
from the growth management plan, "growth management would be a
meaningless exercise and manipulation of sterile numbers if some
higher goal were not in mind".
Richman said in the early 1970's the community was growing, not
in phases, but with a multitude of projects. In response to
that, the community was dealing with service equilibrium prob-
lems. A determination was made that the community needed to
phase growth. Some of the constraints to growth, like the
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airport and hospital capacity, have been eliminated. There are
problems still facing the community, like the highway entrance
to town, parking, air quality, downtown bus terminal.
Richman asked if it makes sense for the community to be accelera-
ting growth, which is what a multi-year request involves, when
many of the community problems are not being solved. Richman
said Council should also consider the rate of growth outside the
lodge sector. Richman said he is concerned that growth manage-
ment is ceasing to be a phasing mechanism but is turning into an
accounting mechanism and a tool to tell Council what year they
are borrowing quota from.
Richman asked what kind of precedence is being set by this
project. Two large projects have just received approval, Aspen
Mountain Lodge in the city and Centennial in the county.
Neither of these project are complete and impacting the commun-
ity. Richman told Council growth management allows Council to
decide what kind of co~eunity they want and Council should make
a decision about future allocations answering that question. If
Council can answer that question in the positive, they should
award a multi-year allocation. If Council does not want to award
a multi-year allocation, they do not have to. Mayor Stifling
said a fundamental question is, is the lodge quota adequate for
the community in 1985.
Peter Forsch, Aspen Skiing Company, said the growth management
system and their application are not at odds with one and other.
Forsch said there has been no growth in the commercial lodging
sector in the last 8 years. Forsch said the co~r~nunity has set as
a goal for lodging growth of 1.2 percent. This project is not
inconsistent with that type of growth. Forsch told Council this
project will provide parking, will only have one fireplace, and
the guests probably will not use the transportation system as the
lodge is at the base of Aspen Mountain. Forsch said he does not
feel this project has negative connotations.
Bill Kane, representing Aspen Ski Company, presented a graph
which points out over a ten year period the planned goal for
growth in the lodging district seems to be on line. Kane said
lodge projects, because of economies of scale, do not fit into a
tightly regulated system of 35 units per year. Kane said the
chart shows the lodge sector will be below planned growth when
this facility is proposed to open. Kane pointed out the lodge
growth is only 1.2 percent when the overall growth management
plan is 3.5 percent.
Kane told Council that no units have been built in the lodge
districts since the inception of the growth management plan.
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Kane said the lodge districts are the most important districts to
the tourist economy in the city; these are the showcase proper-
ties and tourists formulate their opinion of Aspen in these
districts. Kane said in designing ski resorts, the premium
properties are within 1200 feet of the base terminal. Kane
recent said growth in districts not within walking distance, but
transit dependent, has been encouraged to redevelop. Kane argued
that properties like the Nugget and Sardy projects should be
evaluated in a different framework than L-l, and L-2 zone which
have a different economy and a different character.
Kane said this type of tourist hotel produces the most sales
tax revenue and the least impact in terms of population and
on-going municipal support. This project is a seasonal facility.
Kane said this site is badly in need of repair. Kane said this
facility makes sense in the overall contribution to the resort,
to increased skier visits and to the economics of the resort.
Kane pointed out there is not a lot of land available within the
lodge district to have explosive growth. Kane stated there is
not a better site for this form of development to take place.
Kane said the applicant feels this project can be approved and
can conform to colicunity goals and planned growth.
/-~ Gideon Kaufman, representing the applicant, said the GMP quota
numbers can be looked at in a variety of ways, and if one wants
to one can come up with justification as to why additional quota
is available. Kaufman said there is no question of can the quota
be allocated but it is one of should it be allocated. Kaufman
said if there is to be additional growth, there is not a better
location for a hotel than at the base of the mountain. People
staying at the base of the mountain will have less need for a
car. Kaufman said the problems Richman listed are not just the
problem of this developer; they are citywide concerns that need
to be addressed. Kaufman pointed out that only 4 of 30 lodges in
the L-3 zone have begun to upgrade. Kaufman said the question of
precedence has to be placed in perspective with what has
occurred, and what has occurred since 1977 is that the city has
not gotten a single new lodge room in the L-l, and L-2 districts.
Kaufman said this is justification for granting multi-year
allocations. Kaufman said in 2 or 3 years when these projects
are built, the community may not need multi-year allocations.
Kaufman stated there is a need in the community for new lodge
rooms.
Mayor Stirling asked Kane, as one of the drafters of the growth
management plan, if this project is inconsistent with the
intention of that plan. Kane said 10 years ago the city was
looking at a different developer who owned a majority of the
~-.~ lodge sites in Aspen who had very ambitious plans for develop-
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ment. The staff was concerned about a growing transportation
problem, the skiing capacity on Aspen mountain, and the imbalance
between Aspen and Snowmass. Kane pointed out that conditions
have changed since 1977 - that Aspen mountain is being substan-
tially improved, and the then-developer went bankrupt. Kane
pointed out that in 8 years, nothing has been built in the lodge
zone and there has been physical deterioration of lodges.
Mayor Stirling opened the public hearing.
Jim Mollica said when the GMP was adopted, the attitude of Aspen
was that "we're here and we don't want anybody else here". From
1968 to 1971, Aspen was experiencin'g 22 percent growth per year.
Mollica said in the last 10 years, Aspen's popularity has
dropped; other resorts offer quality accommodations. Mollica
said he feels the growth management plan has made Aspen a better
place to live, but it is time for some changes and would encour-
age Council to approve a multi-year allocation. Jim Curtis also
encouraged granting a multi-year allocation. Curtis said his
reasons are that there have not been any new lodge units since
1977 and there is room to catch up on lodge units. Curtis said
Council should encourage growth that is very well located, and
this is the proper location for high quality commercial and
lodging facilities.
Doug Carlson said this will be one of the first projects that
will be built. Carlson agreed there is no better site for a
project like this. Carlson recommended Council move forward
with this approval. Bob George also recommended Council approve
this project. George said one of the goals of the growth
management plan is to get quality development, like this project.
Larry Yaw said the growth management plan was forged in an era
when the feeling was that no growth was good. Yaw said the
community has the tools to anticipate that certain growth is
good.
Tom Hines, representing the Aspen Resort Association, said they
endorse the project and request Council to approve the project
and the multi-year allocation. Ann Jeffrey, chairman of the Ski
Company political action committee, told Council they would like
to see this project go through; they would like to see more
quality hotel space in Aspen.
Joe Edwards, representing Aspen Square owners, pointed out all
five planners met and unanimously recommended that Council not
grant the multi-year allotment. Edwards said Council has
already approved the reconstruction of 350 existing units as
we;; asapproved 400 new lodging units. Edwards said most of
these units have not been constructed, and Council has no idea of
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the impact of these units on the community. Edwards stated the
whole purpose of the growth management plan was to bring projects
on line in phases so the community can see in increments what
the impacts are. Edwards said the planning office has recom-
mended to Council if they approve this project, that they throw
out the GMP altogether. Edwards said the language in the Code
was intended to provide staged growth. The Code says in the
year during the construction, the annual allotment shall be
reduced by the amount of the construction. The city must reduce
the allotment during the year. Edwards said the developer wants
to build in 1987-88 but the allotment will not be available
until 1989-90. Edwards said to grant multi-year allocations for
six years from now is probably illegal.
Fred Smith encouraged Council to approve multi-year allocations
as the precedent was set when Council approved a multi-year
allocation for the Aspen Mountain lodge. Charles Hopton said
one of the purposes of the growth management plan was to give
Council time to evaluate different projects as they are built.
Hopton said when the malls were put in, it created a major
thoroughfare on Durant avenue. This has not been evaluated by
the city, and this should be taken into consideration for both
the Aspen Mountain Lodge and this project.
Bill Martin recommended Council provide the additional building
permits for this project. Martin said Richman's issues are very
valid but unless there is pressure in the community by granting
this project, it gives Council the momentum to solve the prob-
lems. Jerry Blann, Aspen Skiing Company, said their proposal is
for less than 100 rooms, no more than 200 people at any given
time. Blann said this project is a commitment from the applicant
to the lodging sector to maintain Aspen as the class destination
resort in North America. Blann said being a class destination
resort cannot be accomplished with no growth in lodge facilities
since 1977. Btann requested if Council is going to drop a bomb
on the project that it be done now rather than after they have
spent $500,000. Blann said there is little economic slack in
this project and if Council is not in favor of the project,
the applicant must rethink their base area plan and reallocate
the resources.
Spence Videon said he strongly supports this project. videon
said the planning is in place; there are not hidden impacts.
Videon encouraged Council to move forward with the project.
Judy Schwalbach said Council should support this project. Doug
Allen said he would like to see Council give the approval for
this project now. It is a viable project at the right time
and in the right place.
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Councilman Isaac said he is in favor of the multi-year allocation
for this project. Councilman Isaac noted he was on P & Z when
the growth management plan was written, and one reason for it
was to catch up on the government reaction to growth so the
services could meet growth. Councilman Isaac pointed out there
is more employee housing, the water plant has been upgraded, the
sanitation district is upgraded. Councilman Isaac said Kane's
graph illustrates that lodging has not been built. Councilman
Isaac said the Skiing Company, who wants to build a project,
should not be penalized for developers who have not produced.
Councilman Isaac said Council should look at lodging that has
been taken off the inventory.
Councilwoman Fallin asked what happened to the lodge units that
have been condominiumized; where did the allocation go. Kane
said there has not been an accounting for these units. Kane said
the 1982 short term accommodation study outlines what is avail-
able in the community is 2700 units, and 10,000 beds. The 1975
report showed over 15,000 beds available for tourist accommoda-
tions, it appears there has been a dramatic reduction in the
amount of units available. Forsch said the Skiing Company called
a number of lodge/condominiums included in the short term
acco~nodation report and asked if they have had units taken out
of the rental pool. Forsch said in a quick survey they counted
87 units taken out of the rental market between the Aspen Alps,
Aspen Square, North of Nell, Fifth Avenue and Mountain Queen.
Mayor Stirling asked if the Ski Company would consider a project
on this site without hotel units. Blann said the project is
being submitted with hotel units, and they have not considered
one outside of that, and it is not a possibility. Councilwoman
Walls asked Taddune about the legal issues raised by Edwards.
Taddune told Council he does not agree, at this point, with
Edwards. Taddune said Council put the law on the books, and
Council should decide what they want to accomplish. As the
legislative body that enacted the law, Council has the ability
to accomplish what they want. Taddune said it does not make
sense to have a growth management quota system to target growth
for the year 1991 and have the growth take place many years
before that. Conversely, this is a situation where the city
anticipated a substantial amount of growth and over the past 10
years are not one inch further than where it started. Taddune
suggested Council give the applicant an opportunity to respond
to Edwards' arguments. Taddune reiterated Council has the
ability to determine what the law is.
Councilwoman Walls said the entire growth management plan should
be looked at, and perhaps amended or repealed. The growth
management plan either means something or it does not. Council-
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woman Walls said it bothers her to have to borrow quota into the
future. Councilwoman Walls said it was clear in the Aspen
Mountain Lodge application, the Council had to grant future
allocations because there was no way to phase the project.
Councilwoman Walls said to go into future allocations for a whole
new project, when the Aspen Mountain Lodge has not been started,
subverts the purpose of the growth management plan. Kaufman
pointed out depending on the assumptions in the graph Kane
presented, there may not be a need for multi-year allocations.
Kaufman said some of the projects exempted in the GMP are
more applicable out of the L-3 quota. Kaufman said the Council
has set a precedence in the way they interpreted the Code for the
Aspen Mountain Lodge.
Councilwoman Walls asked if there is a shortage of short term
accommodations in town. Carlson, Woodstone Inn, told Council
they were over 90 percent filled for January, February and
March. Carlson said he also manages the Aspen Club, which was
20 rental condominiums and is now 10 rental units. Councilman
Collins asked why the units at Sardy property are exempted.
Richman told Council the units are exempt from the GMP competi-
tion but must be deducted from the quota. Richman told Council
the 35 lodge units are for the L-l, L-2, CC, CL and other zones.
~'~ Richman said at this point Council has decided to credit the L-3
quota with the units from the Copper Horse and Alpina Haus.
Richman suggested to Council if they wish to grant a multi-year
allocation that they reconsider crediting the L-1 and L-2 for
the Copper Horse and Alpina Haus units. Richman said he feels
crediting the L-3 would allow about 60 units to be built in the
L-3, which is contrary to the intent of creating the L-3 zone
district.
George naswell, Aspen Square, said he disagrees with the appli-
cant's research that 87 units have been taken out of the rental
pool. Laswell said a lot of units taken off the rental pool are
being filled by the owner or are rented long term. Hopton said
since he gave the number of rental units taken off the market to
the Ski Company's survey two have come back in.
Mayor Stirling said it is up to the elected officials to deter-
mine what the town needs and the best interests of the community.
Mayor Stirling said the GMP is a tool to anticipate growth and
to stage growth, but also to allow growth to occur. Mayor
Stirling said the number of units is a less fundamental issue
than the technical issues like mass, access, parking, congestion,
the visual issue, drainage, etc. Mayor Stirling pointed out
Councils have been approving units, and these units have not been
built. Mayor Stirling said he is convinced that the town needs
/.~ quality units but there is no guarantee this applicant will
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build quality units. Councilman Collins said he would like an
interpretation from the city attorney about multi-year alloca-
tions. Mayor Stirling said he will be out of town for the next
regular meeting. Councilman Isaac suggested a special meeting
to finish this item. Council agreed.
Taddune said the question is not whether Council has the ability
to grant future quotas, but is when can the project be built.
Does the project have to be built in the year for which the quota
is given. Forsch said the timing is critical in order to be able
to submit a GMP application by December 1, 1985.
Mayor Stifling continued the public hearing to October 28, 1985.
ORDINANCE #53, SERIES OF 1985 - Little Nell SPA
Councilman Collins moved to table Ordinance #53, Series of 1985;
seconded by Councilwoman Walls. All in favor, motion carried.
ORDINANCE #52, SERIES OF 1985 - Public Hearing & Notice Require-
ment
Steve Burstein, planning office, told Council this code amendment
requires conceptual reviews of PUD and subdivision before Council
to be public hearings and be noticed as public hearing. This
ordinance also requires that notice be given to all condominium
owners rather that the association. The ordinance requires the
applicant provides a list of property owners as well as stamped,
pre-addressed envelopes for the planning office to send out the
public hearing. City Attorney Taddune pointed out some changes
since first reading to clarify the language.
Mayor Stifling opened the public hearing. There were no
comments. Mayor Stirling closed the public hearing. Mayor
Stirling read a letter from Lee Miller into the record strongly
encouraging Council to adopt this ordinance.
Councilman Isaac moved to adopt Ordinance #52, Series of 1985,
as amended on second reading; seconded by Councilman Collins.
Roll call vote; Councilmembers Isaac, yes; Collins, yes; Walls,
yes; Fallin, yes; Mayor Stirling, yes. Motion carried.
ORDINANCE #54, SERIES OF 1985 - Meetings Outside Corporate limits
Mayor Stirling opened the public hearing. There were no
coI[m~ents. Mayor Stirling closed the public hearing.
Councilman Collins moved to adopt Ordinance #54, Series of 1985,
on second reading; seconded by Councilwoman Walls.
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City Manager Schilling told Council this move is in response to
the accessibility committee's report to initiate items in the
report that cost nothing. Councilman Collins asked if this
would be for all meetings. Schilling said this does not cover
study sessions, only regular and continued meetings. Taddune
said Council is choosing this as an alternative location as it is
more accessible to handicap persons, there is more parking, and
the meeting room is larger. Councilwoman Fallin said there
should be continuity in where the Council meets.
Roll call vote; Councilmembers Isaac, yes; Collins, yes; Walls,
yes; Fallin, yes; Mayor Stirling, no. Motion carried.
Councilwoman Walls suggested Council meet inthe first floor
space for budget and for work sessions as this is closer to
staff offices. Councilman Isaac said all Council meetings
should be at the community center so there is continuity.
Schilling said he-does not know how much flexibility Council will
have to always have access to this space.
Councilman Collins moved to hold all Council meetings at the
co~mmunity center beginning October 28, 1985, all regular, and
continued meetings, and study sessions; seconded by Councilman
Isaac. All in 'favor, with the exception of Councilwoman Walls
and Mayor Stifling. All in favor, motion carried.
ORDINANCE #55, SERIES OF 1985 - Sales of Red Roof inns
City Attorney Taddune said in these documents the city is
consenting to the sale of the Red Roof, not approving the third
party purchaser. Taddune negotiated into the deed of trust
covenants concerning maintenance of the premises during the
interim of the promissory note. Red Roof has agreed to be the
first one liable regarding maintenance until the note is paid off
in full. Taddune reminded Council the note is without recourse;
it is interest bearing. If Red Roof defaults on the note, the
city's remedy is to institute legal proceedings to regain control
of the project.
The paragraph pertaining to roof repairs, water line improvements
and assistance regarding liquor permits have been deleted.
Taddune said the property for sale includes the tennis courts and
swimming pool. There is an agreement on accessibility and Red
Roof will probably agree to maintain the entrance way easement
accessing the property from highway 82. The default interest
rate is 12 percent. Mayor Stirling said the default interest
rate should be higher.
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Mayor Stirling opened the public hearing. There were no
comments. Mayor Stirling closed the public hearing.
Assistant City Manager Mitchell told Council he called the
references provided for the third party purchaser and received
positive comments. Councilman Isaac asked if the back rent will
be paid off before closing. Taddune said at closing the lease
will be terminated and all rent payments will be pro rated at
the date of closing; however, if the city delays the closing
more than 30 days, the rent will be abated until closing.
Councilman Isaac asked if in the lease with Red Roofs there
were p. erformance standards and agreements about the use of the
swimming pool and tennis courts. Taddune said there was an
understanding that the tennis courts would be made available to
the public, but it was not port of the lease. Dick Wilhelm told
Council in the pocket they submitted, they stated they will be
open on a year round basis, and will be supportive of the
co~nunity. Taddune said the covenants require the applicant to
maintain this as a short term accommodation property. Mayor
Stirling asked if there was a firm closing date. Taddune told
Council both parties are ready to close. Taddune said he would
recommend closing by a certain date. Bob Grueter told Council
Red Roof would like to close as soon as possible. Mayor Stirling
recommended this Close no later than December 1, 1985, or the
applicants will have to get an extension. Taddune said paragraph
8 states closing shall take place on or before 30 days after
final acceptance.
Councilman Isaac moved to adopt Ordinance #55, Series of 1985,
on second reading as amended; seconded by Councilman Collins.
Councilman Collins asked if this sale included the porking lot
to the west of the property. Grueter said the city owns the
parking lot and Red Roofs has an access easement. Councilman
Collins asked if the city can review the contract between Red
Roof and the third party. Taddune said the city will consent to
sale to a third party but will not involve itself in this sale.
The city is selling this property to the Red Roof Inn. Grueter
told Council the first transaction from the city to Red Roof is
exempt from the real estate transfer tax, the tax will be poid
on the second transaction.
Roll call vote; Councilmembers Isaac, yes; Collins, yes; Walls,
yes; Fallin, yes; Mayor Stirling, yes. Motion carried.
SNC~q DUMP SITE REPORT
City Manager Schilling passed out a letter received from Lee
Pardee reiterating vigorous support for early moving of the snow
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dump site, and suggesting his group would like at all costs
to avoid being forced to take some legal action other than to
work with the city in seeing the snow damp gets moved. Schilling
told Council he met with Heiko Kuhn, Sanitation District manager,
about the concept of moving the snow dump from its present
location to the sanitation district property.
Schilling told Council he also spoke with Jay Hammond, city
engineer, who had the streets department inspect the site and it
is believed, given the fact that some of the waste water treat-
ment structures are being removed or have been completely
removed, that the site could accommodate the snow dump activity.
Schilling said the city is using just less than 2.5 acres, and
the total site of the sanitation property is just over 3 acres.
But the 3 acres take into consideration the fact that some of the
clarifiers waste water treatment facilities are being demolished
and removed. There is still a building which holds their offices
and some employee housing as well 4 modular units of employee
housing. Schilling said one issue is whether the employee
housing would have to be moved to accommodate the snow damp site
and would be subject to more specific investigation. One of the
reactions that the city got from Kuhn was there are anamber of
people who are concerned about the snow dump activity where it
presently is, and there will be a namber who will be concerned if
it gets moved to the sanitation district site, and this is one of
the concerns that Councilman Collins had. Schilling told Council
the sanitation district, at least as far as Kuhn was willing to
represent their position, is not enthusiastic about this pro-
posal. Kuhn indicated it would have to be a final decision of the
Board, and Schilling has asked to get on the next agenda to meet
with the Board. This comes up the llth of November. Schilling
told Council he suggested to Kuhn maybe they could work out an
arrangement where the housing could be moved at the expense of
the city to another location, being indefinite to where that
would be, that would be a complex problem. Kuhn asked what they
would do with the housing in the interim as there would be an
expense associated with that. Mayor Stirling asked how many
employees are housed there. Schilling said there are four units,
two are 2 bedrooms, two are 1 bedrooms, there are some families
housed there. Schilling said the site does appear feasible, but
based on his conversations the district is not enthusiastic.
Schilling said he will get a more definitive answer from them on
the llth and does not anticipate there will be any greater level
of enthusiasm than from Heiko.
The suggestion was made at the previous meeting that Council
exercise its authority of eminent domain and condemn the site if
there is no cooperation. Schilling said this is a 3/4 million
dollars piece of property and suggested that before the city
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entertain spending that kind of money on this property to
accommodate the snow dump that Council look at absorbing the
district and then making a decision as to whether this property
is suitable for that. Schilling questioned double taxing the
people in the city where part of the district is located
to acquire an alternative snow dump site.
The other question that was raised by the Council concerns the
impound lot. Schilling said the staff is less concerned about
the impound lot, feeling that some things the city is doing right
now help to deal with the problem. Other things can be done on
the site to substantially mitigate any adverse impacts of the
impound lot. Schilling said the city is establishing a policy
whereby the very dilapidated and abandoned vehicles that create
the real eyesore in the impound lot and also create some signifi-
cant operational problems for the towing company, will be as a
matter of policy moved directly to a secured location at the
dump. The other part that the city can address is beautifica-
tion and improvement of the site. There are a number of things
that the city can do to that site to make it even more attrac-
tive. Schilling said a question was raised about the Airport
Business Center and whether or not cars could go there. Schill-
ing told Council there are deed restrictions that don't permit
the outdoor storage of vehicles so that is not an alterna-
tive.
There was also a question of how the impound lot got there
in the first place. Staff researched this and it occurs to
the staff that sometime around 1977, the then city manager
decided that that was a good place to have an impound lot and
directed that some grading be done, the grading was done, the
cars were stored there, the next year they fenced the site and
that's how sometimes things evolve. Schilling said the city
can deal over the long run with the problems associated with the
impound lot, but less certain about how to resolve the snow
dump site, The staff will have better information for the Council
after the meeting with the sanitation district board on the
llth.
Councilman Isaac asked what the city's legal risk is to continue
to use the present snow dump. Schilling said he has spoken to
the city attorney about the legal concerns raised by Pardee's
group. The city attorney is not uncomfortable with what the
city is presently doing in terms of the issues that have been
raised. Councilman Collins asked why all cars cannot be taken
out to the dump. Schilling said there are logistics and security
problems in that.
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Dale Potvin said they feel the impound lot adversely impacts the
value of the properties in the area. The citizens feel the
money used to buy that property was designated for open space,
and the impound lot certainly does not fall into that category.
Potvin told Council he supports Pardee's group in their efforts
to bring to Council that the uses of the snow dump and impound
lot, are not legal uses for this property according to the
opinions sought and if Pardee's group were to attempt to bring
this to a head with the city, he would support them. Vicky
Fuller said she feels the present snow dump site is inappropriate
and it is not aligned with the original intention of purchasing
the property in the first place. Ms. Fuller said she owns some
property contiguous and feels these uses are real detriment to
the property. It is also a detriment to the whole city when
visitors come and walk by the snow dump on the way to the art
museum, and they see that eyesore, and it needs to be moved.
Remo Lavagnino said the main point is the inappropriate use of
the land and what it is being used for right now. navagnino
pointed out it was through resolution of Council at the time the
ordinance was proposed to the citizens in referendum form that
delineated what the uses of the property were to be. The resolu-
tion is key to using that land, not the way it's being used
now. Mayor Stirling asked the city manager to move as expedi-
tiously as possible and get a report on the November llth
meeting after the sanitation district board meeting.
SC~EDULM BOARD INTERVIEWS
Mayor Stirling said there is one vacancy on the Clean Air
Advisory Board, and there is one application. The Commercial
Core and Lodging Commission has two vacancies and there are four
applications. The HPC has one vacancy and one term expired.
The P & Z has two terms expired and both members wish reappoint-
ment. The Wheeler Board has one vacancy. Council scheduled the
Board interviews for October 23 at 3 p.m. Mayor Stirling
suggested Council reappoint Welton Anderson and David White to
P & Z and Nick Pasquarella to HPC. Council agreed.
RESOLUTION-#28, 1985 - Volk Property GMP Allocation
Councilwoman Fallin withdrew due to conflict of interest. Steve
Burstein, planning Office, told Council the two parts to this
discussion are the allocation of commercial quota to the Volk
property and a decision about the carry over of the commercial
quota. Burstein said he will address these separately. Burstein
said the Volk proposal is for a three story commercial building
at the corner of Cooper and Galena. The request is for a total
6800 square feet, of which 1500 is reconstruction of existing
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building. The request through the GMP quota is 5309 square
feet. Burstein said this was the only project in the GMP
competition for 1985, and was scored by P & Z above the thresh-
hold. HPC has given conceptual approval. There were two
special reviews in front of P & Z; one for bonus floor area
ratio, and one for trash and utility areas. P & Z gave approval
to both special reviews.
P & Z has also recommended the city investigate purchasing this
parcel. Councilman Isaac said Council has stated an interest in
purchasing this and the discussion of that will be October 21.
Councilman Isaac suggested waiting to act on this request until
Council sees the planning office's priorities for open space.
Mayor Stifling said the applicant has the right to apply for
this all~ocation. Don Fleisher, representing the owner of the
property, said he feels it is inappropriate for Council to mix
the approval of the GMP process and a decision to purchase
this property as open space. Fleisher said they will not
apply for a building permit until next spring, there is time for
the city to pursue purchasing this property.
Terry Murray said she feels this property was always intended to
be open space. If the city is serious about purchasing this
/'-, property, it may be unwise to approve this request. Sunny Vann
._ told Council the Code requires Council to allocate quota, if it
is available, to an eligible applicant on or before November
1st. Taddune said this is correct, and if Council agrees they
should direct staff to draft a resolution for the next meeting.
Andre Ulrych, adjacent property owner, told Council he has a 5 x
7 cooler which goes into this property, and that has not been
addressed in the GMP application. Mayor Stifling said this
issue should be raised with the applicant. Ulrych said the
applicant does not have the square footage they think they have.
Councilman Collins moved to approve this allocation for the Volk
property and to ask the attorney to prepare a resolution for the
next meeting; seconded by Councilwoman Walls. Mayor Stifling
agreed this has to move along, no matter what may be in the
planning, as citizen have to be able to rely on the process.
All in favor, motion carried. (Councilwoman Fallin abstained).
COMMERCIAL GMP CARRY OVER
Steve Burstein, planning office, told Council there are several
possible carry overs in the commercial quota. Burstein said in
the CC, and C-1 zone there is an excess of space and recommended
it would not be appropriate to carry over the 3,691 square feet
for a total of 13,691 square feet available for next year.
~-~ Burstein said in the office zone, there could be an additional
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4,000 square feet carried over, and the recommendation is not to
carry over this square footage.
Burstein said in the NC/SCI zone, the carry over space may be
necessary to keep up with the residential development that has
occurred. The commercial/lodge quota carry over may be useful
in order to allow a balance of projects with lodge and commercial
uses. Alan Richman, planning director, pointed out the CC, C-1
zone has 10,000 square feet of quota available annually, and with
the build out in these zones, the staff does not feel it appropr-
iate to add square footage to this district. Mayor Stifling
agreed that 10,000 square feet is sufficient in this zone.
Richman said there are some substantial lodge projects in the
works, and there may be demands for commercial/lodge square
footage.
Councilman Collins moved to direct planning office to prepare a
resolution for the next meeting containing staff's recommenda-
tions; seconded by Councilwoman Walls. All in favor, motion
carried.
WHALE OF A WASH GMP EXTENSION
Councilwoman Fallin withdrew due to conflict of interest. Steve
Burstein, planning Office, said the applicant has been operating
in good faith in trying to get this project on line with the
redesign of the structure and by building the first floor of the
project. Burstein said the P & Z rescored the project and
recommended favor of the rescoring. P & Z reviewed a trash area
requested and approved it, conditioned on an easement in order
to guarantee access for the Chitwood building. Burstein said
the employee housing proposal has been approved by the housing
office.
Sunny Vann, representing the applicant, said the applicant
aoquired the Epicure building as well as the Whale of a Wash
building, and his first priority was completing the Epicure
building. The applicant received HPC approval to clean up the
first floor of the Whale building. Vann said this GMP allocation
is about to expire, and is requesting an extension as well as
approval of the amendment of the plan. Vann said the applicant
has given up the third floor and reduced the size of the second
fl oo r.
Councilman Collins moved to approve a 180 day extension of the
Whale of a Wash commercial allocation, expiring March 1, 1986;
seconded by Councilwoman Walls. Councilman Isaa~c asked if the
Council has criteria for granting GMP extensions. Alan Richman,
planning director, said the criteria are diligence in pursuing
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the project, investment to the community, and good cause. All in
favor, motion carried.
Councilman Collins moved to confirm the allocation of 2,570
square feet of commercial space awarded to the Whale of a Wash;
seconded by Councilwoman Walls. All in favor, motion carried.
WEAVER (PIONEER PARK) LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT
Steve Burstein, planning office, told Council this is a request
for a lot line adjustment of the two lot Weaver subdivision at
442 West Bleeker street. The original lot split in 1980 created
one lot of 23,600 square feet, and this request is to reconfigure
it to 17,000 square. Lot 2, which is undeveloped, originally was
6,000 square feet and this request is to increase it to 12,000
square feet. Burstein reminded Council this was considered in
March 1985, when it was tabled to consider public purchase of
the property. Burstein said at the September 10 Council meeting,
public purchase of the property was also discussed; Council did
not show a great deal of interest.
The main issue of increasing the size of lot 2 is that the size
of the development would increase, and the applicant would have
the ability to build a duplex. The applicant has agreed to
restrict the development on lot 2 to a single family house.
Another issue is the increase of FAR, this lot line adjustment
would allow an additional 1,000 square feet. Burstein said this
is a large lot, and it may be appropriate to have a large
structures. Another issue is the protection of the trees on the
site, and the planning office recommends a building envelope be
developed which would restrict any unnecessary destruction of the
trees.
Burstein told Council the existing structures fit into the
highest category of historic designations in the city. The
staff feels it is important whatever is developed on the new
lots be compatible with the existing historic structures. The
staff recommends approval with conditions; limiting lot 2 to a
single family residence, moving the gazebo to lot 1; an encroach-
ment license be obtained for the fences; a building envelope be
developed to meet staff approval; tree removal be done according
to the municipal code; that HPC have a chance to review any new
construction on lot 2; that the applicant join any improvement
district that is formed.
Bob Hughes, representing the applicant, said when this project
received a lot split in 1980 and an exemption from GMP, they
were restricted to a single family dwelling. Hughes said he has
problems with the conditions that a building envelope be develop-
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ed and that the HPC review any plans for lot 2. Hughes said
these conditions are discriminatory. Hughes said the property is
already restricted by tree removal and tree relocation sections
of the Code, and the building envelope is not necessary. Hughes
said by prematurely identifying the building envelope, it will
affect the marketability of the property. Hughes said the
building department can turn down an application to remove trees
when they are part of the natural beauty of the site, so there
is discretion for this site.
Hughes said he is concerned about having new construction on lot
2 have to receive HPC approval. Hughes said this is a histori-
cally significant property. Hughes said this condition would
preclude any contemporary architecture on the new lot and will
also affect the marketability of this property. Hughes said the
persons owning the Pioneer park house will want to be protective
of their house and will probably exact private covenants.
Hughes said if Council feels this parcel is so historically
significant, they should purchase the property, and not try to
get indirectly the same result.
Mayor Stifling said he likes the idea of a building envelope as
there is probably only one building site on the parcel. Alan
Richman, planning director, said there is nothing unusual about
requiring building envelopes on environmentally sensitive
properties, like in stream margin and steep slope reviews.
Mayor Stirling said he favors conditions 5 and 6 and does not
feel this effects the marketability. Mayor Stifling said the
HPC only has the ability to review a project. Richman said this
condition only requires input from the HPC to insure the two
buildings work together on the property. Councilman Isaac
suggested adding the words "in an advisory capacity". Hughes
said he would accept that.
Councilman Isaac said he feels the building envelope condition
could be dropped as the city is covered with the tree removal
section and by review of the HPC. Mayor Stifling and Council-
woman Walls said they would like to see the building envelope
condition kept in.
Councilman Isaac moved to approve the subdivision exception for
the Weaver lot line adjustment subject to conditions 1 through
4; 6 adding "in an advisory role", and condition 7 in the
planning office memorandum October 9, 1985; seconded by Council-
man Collins. Mayor Stirling said this is the most sensitive
property in the west end of town; it was the home of the first
Governor of Colorado. The Council needs to do everything they
can to protect this property.
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All in favor, with the exception of Councilwoman Walls and Mayor
Stifling. Motion carried.
ASPEN MOUNTAIN LODGE PUD AMENDMENT
Mayor Stirling said the original proposal had employee housing
proposed for the Alpina Haus, Copper Horse, Airport Business
Center and a newly constructed Ute City Place. Mayor Stifling
said the applicant has requested to substitute Ute City Place
and the Airport Business Center for units at Hunter Creek.
Steve Burstein, planning office, said this proposal is to
replace the employee housing at Hunter Creek with 87 units
housing 107 employees. The Alpina Haus and Copper Horse would
remain employee housing.
Burstein said P & Z and staff agree Hunter Creek would adequately
serve employees in terms of the housing need, the quality of the
housing. The outstanding issue is parking; there would be a
shortfall of 13 parking spaces that would have been provided
on-site in the previous proposal. The applicant had a require-
ment to provide one parking space per 2 employees. The planning
office had recommended to P & Z that these 13 spaces be provided
~'~ near the Alpina Haus and Copper Horse. P & Z did not approve
that recommendation but recommended these be at or near the
Aspen Mountain Lodge or Alpina Haus and Copper Horse. The staff
feels that if parking is provided at the Aspen Mountain Lodge,
it is an incentive to drive to work, and it does not serve the
parking problem.
Joe Wells, representing the Aspen Mountain Lodge, reminded
Council they originally took an option on the Benedict site to
solve the employee housing problem. That option was unaccept-
able to the city; the applicant dropped the option at a cost of
$150,000. Wells said they negotiated with the city to determine
acceptability of a site, prior to signing an option agreement.
Wells said the applicant does not have an option on Hunter
Creek but is presenting it to see if it is acceptable to the
city. Wells said the issue is whether the conversion of units
at Hunter Creek, in a central location, is more appropriate than
housing which was criticized as being removed from town, as well
as construction of new units, which represent growth impacts.
Wells said he feels it is advantageous to go with the solution
of using Hunter Creek for the employee housing for the Aspen
Mountain Lodge.
Wells said Hunter Creek is more accessible, has more amenities
for the employees, has a higher level of transportation, and the
/~ units are better constructed. Mayor Stirling asked what the
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level of planned improvements for the units would be. Wells
said the affordability of the project is based on painting and
most of the improvements will be inside the units. Burstein
pointed out the housing authority accepted this proposal. Andy
Hecht told Council these units are presently rented but there is
no obligation to rent to employees long term. Hecht told
Council these buildings will be converted and sold as free
market units.
Councilman Isaac said building the lodge will require a need for
more employees and more housing. The proposal is to take
existing housing for the project, and the community is not
getting additional employee housing. Wells said there are 5
bonus points in the GMP competition for conversion of existing
units. Richman said the Code recognizes that units have the
ability to be sold at any rate the owner wishes to, and it is
desirable to restrict the units rather than lose them. The
requirement in the Code is that an applicant make a net increase
to the housing inventory. Right now there is no protection for
the Hunter Creek units. Mayor Stifling said he feels deed
restricting these units and protecting them is beneficial.
Councilwoman Walls asked if these would be sales or rental
units. Wells said the previous language of approval gave the
applicant the option of rental or sales. Hunter Creek resident
told Council she is against this proposal as she does not want
to see the area take another step backwards. Alma Davenport
said she bought her unit on Hunter Creek on the basis these
would be free market units, and it is not fair to have rental
units. Dennis Brady told Council he bought his unit under the
condition there would be consistent quality of the units. This
proposal will downgrade the area.
Mayor Stirling asked if the Centennial units were available for
this project. Richman said Centennial are deed restricted units
and would not qualify. Mr. Freeland said he lives at Hunter
Creek and is happy with it. There are parking problems now, and
there will be more people with employee housing. Aspen Mountain
Lodge is trying to duck the issue of building their own housing
and are trying to short circuit a good project. Janice Brady
said if one entity own that many units, they will take control of
the homeowners association. Jim Wolf said employee housing at
Hunter Creek would cause problems. Peter Delaney said he would
like to see these units be purchased rather than rented. The
employees at Hunter Creek purchased their units and have pride in
the units.
Hunter Creek resident said she would hate to see the best four
buildings turn into employee housing. Roger Moyer said the
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developer has not contacted anyone at Hunter Creek nor have the
residents been informed of these developments. Moyer said the
restrictions at Hunter Creek for owners and tenants are very
strict. Moyer suggested it is premature to make this change.
Walter Subert said Council should not be letting Aspen Mountain
Lodge get out of building new housing for all their new
employees. Carolyn Christensen said realtors who have sold
units at Hunter Creek have represented that the project will be
finished as started.
Mayor Stirling said more work needs to be done on this proposal.
Wells asked Council to look at the entire picture, that this
project is in significant trouble with the employee housing, and
may fail on the employee housing. Wells said this is an alterna-
tive that is affordable. Wells told the Council the applicant
is willing to commit the number of employees housed, or offering
the units for sale. Mayor Stifling said this proposal is a
chance to get housing deed restricted into the future so that
employees would have the opportunity to be able to rent a
property in town. There may be flexibility in this project to
have a mix of rental and sale units. Mayor Stifling suggested
there should be conformity with what the applicants propose to
do to the remaining buildings so they are aesthetically consis-
tent with the entire project. Moyer said any commitments should
be put in writing. Mayor Stifling said the Council worked two
years on the Aspen Mountain Lodge and demanded certain amount of
employee housing.
Councilman Collins moved to table the PUD amendment. Motion
DIES for lack of a second.
Wells said he would like a sense of Council what needs to be
done to make this proposal acceptable. Mayor Stirling suggested
the applicant meet with the Hunter Creek homeowners with a
specific proposal, have the homeowners respond and bring this
back to Council. Some citizen asked why Aspen Mountain Lodge
cannot build their own housing and why Council should let them
off the hook. Wells said it does not appear to be a community
goal to provide new housing. Every growth management category
gives bonus points for the conversion of existing units over
offering to build new units. Wells said the Ute City Place
project is the most expensive of the employee housing elements,
and providing housing at Hunter Creek is an affordability issue.
Councilwoman Walls said she does not like to see conversion of
the low end of free market units and Council should not encourage
conversion of these type of units.
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Mayor Stifling moved that the applicant go forward with negotia-
tions with the homeowners at }]unter Creek and return to Council
with alternatives, and to seek other alternatives that may not
have been explored; seconded by Councilman Isaac.
Barb Bromston said they would like their project to continue to
be a good place to live. Mayor Stirling contended if the
property is managed well, it can be a good project.
All in favor, with the exception of Councilmembers Walls and
Collins. Motion carried.
Moyer suggested the city look into why bonus points are given
for conversion of existing units rather then having applicants
build new units. Richman said the theory was that conversion of
existing units has no growth impacts, and is desirable. Conver-
sion also freezes units which could be lost.
ARCHITECT CONTRACT FOR SKI CLUB
City Manager Schilling said July 22 Council authorized proceed-
ing with the project, directed staff to solicit architects.
Council voted to approach this as a multi-use project. Schilling
told Council the staff restricted the selection to the Roaring
Fork Valley, and received 9 qualification statements. A selec-
tion panel of representatives from the Ski Club, ARA, community,
Council and planning office. The panel interviewed 4 architects
and ranked William John Poss as number 1. Staff checked refer-
ences and all were excellent. The staff negotiated an agreement
to settle on a scope of services. Schilling said the project
will be divided into two phases, the conceptual stage which is
basic needs analysis involving all future all prospective
occupants, a site analysis, conceptual design. Schilling said
there will be construction cost analysis including an estimate
of the value of the production of a free standing building as
the Aspen Mountain Joint Venture has committed to, a 2,000
square foot building complete with utility connects so that the
city can go to AMJV to tell them what their contribution to the
facility will be.
Schilling said the presumption the staff has been working on,
and the only way the project will go forward, is that the city
fund this work. The Ski Club has taken the position that they
have a commitment from the Aspen Mountain Joint Venture to
produce a building for the Ski Club. Schilling would like
Council to ratify the position that the city will be the lead in
financing this project and accept the contribution from the
Aspen Mountain Joint Venture. Schilling said Council should
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decide whether they want to commit to including in the scope of
work whether the site will accommodate the ski museum. The
proposal from Poss is not to exceed $11,570 and does include
analyzing the above questions and to include the ski museum.
There is some discussion from the Aspen Ski Company on whether
this should include headquarters for the World Cup. Schilling
asked Council to enter into an agreement with Poss. Schilling
said Poss will have a final report to Council at the end of
November. The Ski Club has to make a decision whether to go
along with the multi-use facility or go on their own.
Councilman Isaac asked where the money will come from. Schilling
said the city is looking at the general fund balance and the
open space fund and will research that before making a recommend-
ation on a particular fund.
Mayor Stirling moved that Council commit not more than $11,570
and go forward with the scheduling and reports as outlined;
seconded by Councilwoman Walls.
Schilling said he cannot conceive this project getting finished
if in a single structure there are a number of different parties
financing it in different ways. Schilling said the cost of
different options will be presented. Councilman Isaac said
he would prefer not to fund this out of open space.
All in favor, motion carried.
RESOLUTION #27, 1985 - Amending Shadow Mountain Deed Restrictions
Councilman Collins moved to adopt Resolution #27, Series of
1985; seconded by Councilwoman Walls. All in favor, motion
carried.
Mayor Stifling suggested moving Council rules and regulations
and open meeting law to another meeting.
ORDINANCE #47, -1985 - Review
City Attorney Taddune told Council this is not on the agenda for
purposes of reconsideration nor public hearing. Taddune reques-
ted this on the agenda because there is some confusion regarding
a phrase herb Klein read into the record, and the additional
language added to the ordinance was not thoroughly discussed.
Taddune said this language is, "there is not intent to remove
such device by building demolition or remodeling or otherwise".
The practical effect of this language would cook those projects
that have announced their present intent to rebuild or remodel.
Taddune said he polled the Council and no one recalled that
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language. Taddune said he will not approve the insertion of
the additional language, and this decision is acceptable to the
Clean Air Advisory Board. The changes that were typewritten
which Council looked at will be inserted. The above change was
read into the record, not on the typewritten sheet.
Taddune told Council this ordinance takes effect 5 days after
publication. Taddune told Council citizens can utilize the
referendum petition procedure to request repeal of this ordinan-
ce. Mayor Stifling asked if this is appropriate for a public
hearing. Taddune said this is merely a communication between
staff and Council so the record will be clear what Council
intended when they passed the ordinance. Councilmembers Walls,
Fallin, Collins and Isaac did not want this open for public
comment.
Councilman Collins moved to direct publication of Ordinance #47,
1985, on second reading without the above language; seconded by
Councilwoman Walls. All in favor, motion carried.
Taddune explained there has been public input at Council meet-
ings, the public hearing was closed, and the ordinance was
passed on second reading. Richie Cohen said the clarification
of this language is indicative of the hurry with which this was
passed. Cohen said this is the least publicized legislation
Council has undertaken. Suzanne Caskey, Clean Air Advisory
Board, said there has been public comment on this ordinance
taken at four Council meetings; there were two study sessions
with the Council; there was an extra special public hearing,
which was publicized. Citizens have been invited to attend all
the Clean Air Board's meetings.
ORDINANCE #59, 1985 -Establishing Clean Air Board
Councilman Isaac moved to read Ordinance #59, Series of 1985;
seconded by Councilwoman Fallin. All in favor, motion carried.
ORDINANCE #59
(Series of 1985)
AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING THE CLEAN AIR BOARD; DESCRIB-
ING THE COMPOSITION OF THE BOARD, THE TERMS AND
QUALIFICATIONS OF IT EMBERS, AND LISTING THE POWERS
AND DUTIES OF THE BOARD was read by the deputy city
clerk
Councilwoman Walls moved to adopt Ordinance #59, Series of 1985
on first reading; seconded by Councilman Collins.
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City Attorney Taddune told Council this ordinance is to establish
a board to hear variances on both the fireplace and the smoking
ordinances. Staff has recommended the director of environmental
health be the administrator for the city to determine variances
from the 15 foot limitation set forth in the Clean Indoor Air Act
with the ability of the Board to hear appeals from the environ-
mental health director. Taddune read his changes into the
record to accomplish this.
Councilwoman Walls moved to accept the amendments; seconded by
Councilman Collins. Roll call vote; Councilmembers Isaac, yes;
Collins, yes; Walls, yes; Fallin, yes; Mayor Stirling, yes.
Motion carried.
ESTABLISHMENT OF PES~/WEED DISTRICT
Jim Duke, weed control director, reminded Council earlier this
summer they had voted to fund establishment of a weed control
district. Duke said in order to vote on a district, a person
has to own 5 or more acres; not very many people within the city
could vote. Duke said he wanted to give Council a chance to
review this and see if they want to be part of the weed district
or work outside the weed district in an informal fashion.
Mayor Stirling moved the city Council vote not to be included in
this district at all; seconded by Councilman Isaac.
Councilwoman Fallin asked what this action would do to the golf
course. Duke said either Aspen should be excluded entirely and
allow those adjacent of the weed district to go in of their own
accord, or have Aspen decide to join all together. Mayor
Stirling said the golf course would be adjacent and would give
the city the right to join the district. Mayor Stirling said
this request is asking to have the entire city be part of the
district and have property taxes levied. Councilwoman Fallin
pointed out west end residents probably do not have the weed
problem that residents surrounding the golf course. Mayor
Stirling said he does not want to commit people's property taxes
to this district. Mayor Stirling said this is a responsibility
of the county, and they should address the problem without
creating a taxing district.
All in favor, motion carried.
City Manager Schilling said the Council previously committed
$2500 to the formation of this district and asked if this money
has been spent. Duke said about $8000 has been spent in the
formation of this district. Schilling said he did not think the
money had been requested from the city.
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Mayor Stifling moved that if this money has not been reque sted
or spent that the money be returned to the city; seconded by
Councilman Isaac. All in favor, with the exception of Council-
woman Fallin. Motion carried.
1986 BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING
Cindy Shafer, acting finance director, recommended Council hear
any public comment and continue this to October 28. Ms. Shafer
said the proposed 1986 expenditures are $23,057,626; of that
amount operating expenses are $10,581,226; debt service is
$4,536,400 and capital items are $7,940,000. Operating revenues
are $14,646,614 and other revenues are $5,624,000.
Mayor Stifling opened the public hearing on the 1986 budget.
The public hearing will be continued to October 28.
LIOUOR LICENSE TRANSFER - The Woodstone
David Fain told Council his corporation has signed a lease to
operate the bar and restaurant at the Woodstone. Fain told
Council they have brought in chefs from Europe and plan to have
a professional restaurant. The lease requires that the restaur-
ant be operated as the highest quality in the city of Aspen.
Councilman Isaac asked if the premises will be remodelled. Fain
said mainly the decor will be redecorated. Councilman Isaac
asked if there will be handicap access. Fain said there will be
a seating area on the main floor.
Councilwoman Walls moved approval of the consent agenda;
seconded by Councilwoman Fallin.
Councilman Collins asked where the Holy Cross easements are
located. Jay Hammond, city engineer, told Council one is the
tank site at Little Nell, and the the other is east of the
volleyball courts at Willoughby park. Hammond said there are no
conflicts with existing or proposed city facilities. Hammond
said there are some conditions listed for these easements.
Councilman Collins asked if this has anything to do with the
Aspen Mountain Lodge. Hammond said only that the Willoughby
park easement will accomplishment portions of the undergrounding
associated with the lodge. Councilman Collins asked who pay for
the undergrounding. Ken Roberts, Holy Cross, said the easement
at Little Nell will provide a back up for the ski area. Roberrs
said most of the work at Little Nell will be absorbed by Holy
Cross. The Aspen Mountain Lodge project is paying for most of
their underground.
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All in favor, motion carried.
Councilwoman Walls moved to adjourn at 10:20 p.m.; seconded by
Councilman Isaac. All in favor, motion carried.
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