HomeMy WebLinkAboutcclc.min.05011996 COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION MAY 1, 1996
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS ................................................................................................................ 1
VALET PARKING ........................................................................................................................................ 2
AIR SHOW .................................................................................................................................................... 5
MALL LEASES ............................................................................................................................................. 6
COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMIssIoN MAY 1, 1996
Chairman Jon Busch called the meeti.ng to order at 8:35 a.m. with Don
Swales, Bill Dinsmoor, Warren Ryan and John Starr present. Excused was
Jack Stanford.
The Commission welcomed their new member John Starr.
MOTION: Bill moved to approve the minutes of April 17, 1996; second
by Don. All in favor, motion carried.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Jon stated that the street light polls need painted and he has noticed that the
paint is fading badly. A program should be set up. Possibly a different type
of paint should be used since this is a long term issue.
Bill stated that a few are painted yearly and a template should be
constructed around the base so that they can minimumize the splash.
Bill Eking, Assistant City Manager stated that he will check with the
Electric Dept. and look into the different types of paint available.
Jon stated that during the summer there are numerous people selling tickets
and doing raffles. He asked the Commission if they would consider
creation of a more permanent space on the mall that can be a question booth
etc. on community events. He stated that the kiosk could be up all year
long. It could be located at Independence Square or down by the restrooms.
John stated that issue was one element of the discussion of the DEPP -
Dowtown Enhancement Pedestrian Plan. Whether that particular slot that
runs to the mountain is really the best use the way it is set up now. Kiosks
are great pedestrian enhancements and it should be amalgamated with the
DEPP issues.
Jon stated that he sees no reason why something like this should go through
the DEPP.
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Bill Eking stated that he feels we will have the summer to figure out the
needs for this kiosk and have the Parks Department review the costs and
report back to the committee. The board also needs to determine what
budget it would come out of.
Bill stated that a modest user fee could be incorporated such as $10. a day to
help cover the maintenance and handling.
VALET PARKING
Brian Wexler, owner of Valley Valet presented his season report to the
Commission. He stated that the number of cars were 1256 vehicles for the
winter and he paid the City $1,884. They commenced parking on Dec. 15th
and concluded April 13th. Numerous people would like him to continue
valet parking during the summer. He stated that the City only grants one
license and he would like to be that company to provide the service.
Russ Cagnoni, Parking Garage Supervisor stated that he supports valet
parking as a whole but in dealing with the operations of the garage Staff
recommends that the use of the garage be stopped. There have been close
incidents with valet drivers driving too fast in the garage. Valet stubs have
been scattered in the garage and in the contract drivers were given a plastic
credit card which records entrances and exits but upon observations some
of the drivers didn't use the credit card and it is difficult to keep exact
records. The biggest issue for staff is that the drivers drive too fast.
Russ stated that the checks were not received on time. He stated that the
garage could be used on their own with no contract and pay the hourly fee
he had no problem with that.
Jon asked what other options would be available if the parking garage
wasn't used.
Brian Wexler stated that his company is totally liable in every respect. He
stated that he corrected the situation with the drivers speeding in the garage.
He also stated that he was on-site almost every night of the season. He
stated that this is a hard service to be perfect at because you are hiring local
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young adults who are outside in zero weather making $6. an hour. He also
stated that he walked through the garage nightly, He stated that there were
some nights that that cards didn't work. He also stated that he concurs with
Russ's concern about the speed in the garage and he doesn't want an
accident either.
Russ stated that four additional cards were given to the valet company and
he requested those back and did not receive them.
Brian stated that the present location is the best for service.
Bill stated that the Caribou area was utilized in the beginning due to the
alcove and being able to lock keys.
Brian stated that he spent time and money in trying to let Aspen know that
valet parking was available.
Jon stated that there are discrepancies in the paper work.
Bill stated that other people observed that valet parking servers were using
onstreet areas instead of going to the garage.
John asked if there were complaints from the police about the speeding
issue.
Brian stated none.
John stated that he came from LA which is a valet parking world and it is an
impossible business and it will be abused. If valet parking is an issue that
we have to do the best we can to control it. He stated that he is in favor of
valet parking, He also stated that angled parking has been discussed by the
DEPP Committee and what does that do to valet parking.
Jon stated that he could not see any alternative for parking and that the
garage is the best.
Russ stated that there are two lots available, one by Cap's and the other by
the ACRA. Cars would then be out in the snow and would have to be
cleaned off.
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Bill stated that if someone is driving dangerously in the garage they should
be fired immediately. The employee should be warned when hired of the
consequences.
Brian stated he would continue to pay the city if they have to use an outdoor
lot.
Don stated that if the Rio Grande were used there is no way to keep records
and control.
Bill Efting, Assistant City Manager stated that possibly a one lump sum
should be issued for the season and Brian indicated 100 vehicles a night.
The records indicate 68 cars. A meeting should be scheduled between
parties involved and then brought back to the CCLC.
Brian stated that he would like to continue valet parking in the summer.
Staff stated that was not on the agenda as Council has other issues that the
Board needs to address and resolve before next season. Council requested
that the Board do a public notice/bid for valet parking. Different sites were
diSCuSsed al§$ SUCh as 200 sJGalena by the Eik~s ~lUb.
Rich Ryan, Parking & Transportation suggested 500 Cooper by Boogies
due to the width of the street.
Brian stated that the Cooper area is not a conducive area as there is only one
restaurant in that area.
John asked if the Fire Department has made any complaints.
Bill Efting stated that the only complaint was people parking in the Fire
Departments spots and they painted the lines red.
Jon stated that he heard that valet parking was parking in the Fire Depts.
spots. He also stated that the present location is the best.
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Bill Efting stated that a speck sheet needs drawn up and we can advertise in
the paper for two weeks and then make a decision.
Brian requested the summer season valet parking and the go under the new
bid process for next season.
Bill Efting stated that he would need an answer from Randy Ready and
Russ for the next meeting as to whether the bid issue can be pulled off in a
professional way. It also should be brought up at brown bag whether or not
City Council is interested in valet parking in the summer. They may say it
is fire season and they don't want vehicles in that vicinity. He also stated
that could be done at brown bag.
Jon stated that the Caribou location is close to Main St. and close to the
parking garage. It has been brought up in the past about hotels that have
parking garages and possibly they would want to do their own valet
parking.
Don stated that council is very favorable about valet parking.
AIR SHOW
Kim Bracher represented the air show. She stated that everything is the
same and they would like to sell tickets on the mall and probably have a
display, possibly a small airplane or the Wings of Blue, the academy jump
team. The location was by the Bananna Republic.
Don stated that there were no complaints last year.
Bill stated that the air show has been occurring long enough and they know
what the boundaries are and what is appropriate and what is not appropriate.
MOTION: Bill moved to approve the air show; second by Don. All in
favor, motion carried.
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MALL LEASES
Debbie Fightlin represented the Flying Dog Brew Pub and stated that they
want to do the exact same thing as last year.
Staff' stated adjacent property owners sign off on their request.
MOTION: Bill moved to approve the mall lease for the Flying Dog
Brew Pub; second by Don. All in favor, motion carried.
GRILL
Don Swales stated that Howard Gunther, owner of the Grill could not be
present at the meeting due to a death in the family.
Bill Eking stated that the Board could approve the mall lease as approved
last year and i£there are changes we can add him to the 15th agenda.
MOTION: Jori moved to approve the Grill mall lease assuming it is the
same as last year; second by Bill. All in favor, motion Carried.
RED ONION
David Walbert owner of the Red Onion stated that he is proposing the same
lease as last year.
MOTION: Don moved to approve the mall lease for the Red Onion;
second by Jon. All in favor, motion carried.
MIRABELLA
Doug Allen, attorney stated that he is representing Mirabella at 38 sqgt. the
same as last year. He stated he had consent from the Crystal Palace.
MOTION: John moved to approve the mall lease for Mirabella; second
by Bill. All in favor, motion carried.
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SILVER NUGGET/CLUB SODA
Doug Allen stated that he was representing Silver Nugget/Club Soda and he
has negotiated with Marvin Jordan on an amendment of the lease. Marvin
is requesting that the corners be done at a 45% angle four feet back.
Marvin Jordan, adjacent neighbor stated that he wants to bring the drawing
into compliance with the actual code that was written 20 years ago that
caused the corner line to be a straight line rather than a curved.
Doug Allen stated that both sides should be in compliance and so both
comers will be done the same at 45%.
Marvin stated that the overall width is 54 feet.
Doug Allen stated that the square footage would be 518 sqft.
Marvin stated that he applauded the Board for addressing mall
entertainment.
MOTION: Jon mOVed tO approve SilVer Nugget/ClUb Soda as
amended; second by Bill. All in favor, motion carried.
CARNEVALLE
John Burke, manager represented Camevatle. He stated that the proposed
lease is the same as last year.
MOTION: Bill moved to approve the mall lease for Carnevalle; second
by Don. All in favor, motion carried.
Staff stated that City Council is scheduled to approve the mall leases on
May 13th and at that time the price will be set per square footage.
Bill stated that in the memo to Council he would recommend that the price
not increase.
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MOTION: Bill moved to adjourn; second by Don. Ali in favor, motion
carried.
Meeting adjourned at 10:30 a.m.
Kathleen J. Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk
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