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HomeMy WebLinkAboutcclc.min.07031996COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION JULY 3, 1996 Chairman Jon Busch called the meeting to order at 8:30 a.m. with members Don Swales, Jack Stanford, Warren Ryan, John Starr present, Bill Dinsmoor arrived late. Kathy Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk said that 81611 was denied at their Liquor License hearing so the mall lease Will not be On this agenda, it will be at a later date. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS Ryan asked what the request is. Strickland responded mall seating. Ryan asked if they served food. Strickland responded they have a Tavern License which only requires snacks and sandwiches. Ryan stated what they want to do is serve lunch out on the mall. Strickland stated that to do a liquor license transfer they had to transfer the basement and first floor, keeping everything the same as the prior license then after the transfer is approved, they will come back with an amendment releasing the basement as a licensed area and that will become a topless bar, the first floor becomes a remodeled res,taurant managed by a different Company. Ryan stated that he is happy for Bill Efting, it is a sad day for the city when they lose people like him and thanked him for all his help. Starr asked what happened with the Ute table, he went there after the meeting and they were less than happy. Starr said he heard they went to the city and bypassed the decision of the CCLC. Strickland stated that Bob Wade was not at the meeting, he came in the next day and she talked with Efting and said it was not feasible to go over to Cooper, he talked with friends that have stores over there and they did not want him that far, he asked that he be allowed to do this in front of his business this year and he will not do anything next year. Strickland said Efting asked for two letters in writing, Wade had already purchased the food so we said it was o.k., the ACRA did allow him to go under the Food & Wine Classic special event and we received a letter from them as well. Busch stated periodically CCLC gets requests from everybody, they want to have a sideWalk sale, ect... I COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION JULY 3, 1996 Strickland said we have had three more requests, the Hard Rock had a voter registration party on the sidewalk and really impeded traffic, this wee'kend there will be a cycle van in front of Pomeroy Sports, she said she explained it would probably be approved this year however, it is indirect commercialization and next year these will be squelched. Strickland stated that they are not selling anything, they purchased two day parking passes and are putting the bikes on demo telling people where they can be purchased, there is also a little girl advertising lemonade at Marolt Park, she is not selling it, she is doing it for the lemonade company. Busch said the bike demo business is the same thing the ski companies do. Efting responded the Ski Co demo's on their own property over by the gondola. Busch asked where the mall sculptures are, he was on the selection committee and he knows the pieces, but summer will be over before they are in. Strickland said she would look into it. Busch stated that he dropped off the Downtown Enhancement Pedestrian Plan because it is very difficult, the emphasis on the committee is quite antithetical to his Own POSition, there is a lot of Sentiment to create more parking and some of taking out the Galena street section of the mall and opening the street up, he does not think they are achieving what City Council had in mind. Starr said he did not like that everyone seemed to represent a vested interest and they speak on that interest, he was sorry to see Busch step aside because he spoke strongly for his views and thinks Busch's presence will be missed. Efting responded that it works some of the time and others it does not, a lot of times they come back somewhere in the middle and if they are not given that freedom everyone will be lost right off the bat, he suggests their timeline will be way off. Bill Dinsmoor seated. Busch stated that the idea of a temporary set-up to slow down traffic has been talked about off and on for years, even if it's putting concrete planters at the comers to punch out the pedestrian area. (neckdowns) COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION JULY 3, 1996 Ryan discussed his request have an extension of parking times on the agenda, he read a response from Randy Ready, Parking Director indicating that it would be impossible this summer, he will need more employees. Ryan commented he is concerned that there are a lot of things on the continuing agenda. Busch said the Elks agreed to put their own compactor on their private property. Erring stated that the Elks have ordered a compactor and The Gap agreed to go in with them, they are not getting it from Pak-em, he also said Planet Hollywood is considering doing it themselves. Busch stated that Ryan's point about extended parking should be on the agenda because it will be a budget item, he said it is up to CCLC to come up with a case and sell it to Council. Tim Ware, Parking Superintendent, commented on why the process would take so long, once a brochure is done and printed it is a done deal for the following season, the sign changes, education of people is a project we would want to implement during an off-season where the locals can be reached first then the guests, in the winter it gets dark at 5:30 and he does not want his officers out after dark, it is too dangerous and we can not expect people tO read the meters and figure them out after dark. Busch responded that is a problem because winter is when it is a problem. Ryan suggested rather than putting items that have been completed under pending, have a separate section for "completed, follow-up". Valet Parking Discussion Ware stated that Dominic Linza has contacted a couple CCLC members that handled the incident over the weekend, Staff is conducting an investigation on what happened and are finding that both parties are a little upset with each other. Ware said Staffhad a discussion with Linza and Brian Wexler, pending this investigation we may want to bring Wexler in and have the Commission review if he can continue his valet parking service or not. Ware stated that Staff is keeping a close eye on him and bringing in his records, there have been some complaints that he is not putting the cars in the garage, Linza has been harassing him a little too. 3 COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION JULY 3, 1996 Busch said he has always opposed the project but everybody else seems to like it, Linza has been directly across the street and having a business that operates during the prime time of the valet parking he has been a big critic. Ware stated that Linza is also the most affected by it. Busch said it does not matter who runs the valet business, there are always the same problems with not putting cars in the garage, he said he can see why, it is 2 1/2 blocks, they are probably gone for 10 minutes by the time walk back naturally they are going to look for an easier way to do the job. Busch stated if the city likes this and wants to continue, maybe the city should run the program if the private entrepreneurs can not be trusted. Ware responded that Park City, Utah did just that, they set aside 150 spaces for valet parking all day, all evening, they lost a lot of money and are currently looking at our parking meters. Busch said this is the city's property and we have let people do this, basically for nothing because they provide a service. Ware stated that we have a little more control over this if it goes to the bid process, he knows everyone is leery about pulling the plug on this, he also remembers this Commission gave Mr. Wexler a one strike rule, if in fact he is not parking the cars in the. garage, we definitely want to pull the plug. Ware noted that parking cars in the garage was the number one agreement in the contract so the cars are off the street and parking is available for other visitors. Efling excused himself from the meeting and thanked the Commission. Busch said people have suggested to him that a bike rack is needed around Boogie's. Strickland responded that she talked with Boogie's and told them to bring a drawing to this meeting, the girl she spoke with said she did not have time to draw one. Busch suggested using one. of our racks out there. Strickland responded she would check with George Robinson, Parks Director and have Boogie's work with Robinson. Swales asked about the clown ordinance. Strickland Said she understands it is dead. Stanford asked where is the truck issue going now that Erring is leaving. Don Swales said he talked with Efting and Efing said he would try and schedule a second meeting with the truckers before he leaves. 4 COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION JULY 3, 1996 The Commission discussed the need for a Staffmember who will be able to take the action necessary to see CCLC projects throUgh, someone who has clout so people will respect that person. Strickland stated that the kiosk will be roughly $20,000, Robinson should come to the next meeting to discuss the budget and see if the Commission wants to look at the kiosk and to see if additional street signs are Wanted to complete the project. Meeting adjourned. Amy G. Schmid, Deputy Clerk