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HomeMy WebLinkAboutcclc.min.10021996 COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION OCT. 2, 1996 Meeting was called to order by Chairman Jon Busch with Don Swales, Bill Dinsmoor and John Start. Excused were Jack Stanford and Warren Ryan. Also Present were Barbara Umbreit, Lonnie Whitmire, Tom Rubel and Tim Ware. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS Jon Busch asked Barbara about the downtown pedestrian committee with respects to "sidewalk experiment" 2 goals - 1 = slows traffic (to be determined) 2= widens sidewalk for pedestrian use. Barbara stated that she did not know the final word. Traffic patterns will be looked at from a more objection pattern. Jon stated that it. didn't seem to slow traffic down. John stated that he watches out his windows and no one is using the pedestrian way on the sidewalk. He did not see a parking problem with people coming in and OUt. Don stated narrowing down the streets is inappropriate. Jon stated that he felt there are sidewalks that are too narrow and he didn't see it causing problems that would out weight having wider sidewalks. Don stated that the neckdown at St. Mary's is working. Bill stated that the radius on the comer by Paradise Bakery maybe too tight. He also stated that he did not see people slowing down. Widening the sidewalk in certain areas would be appropriate. John stated that we assume the experient didn't slow down traffic but we are not sure. Jon stated that the board is not sure if narrowing of the street accomplished the goal of slowing down traffic. CCLC did not see anything in the experiment that out weighed the desireability of having wider sidewalks. Bill stated that slowing down of the traffic because it is narrower, that in itself may not have contributed anything to make it pedestrian friendly. 1 COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION OCT. 2. 1996 John stated that the CCLC is in agreement that wider sidewalks are appropriate. Jon stated that there is no way to widen the sidewalks unless you narrow the street. John stated that the comer is too tight ora radius, it is a problamatic comer. Jon stated that he likes neckdowns. He also stated that large tracks have great difficulty turning out onto the street. Bill stated at the delivery meeting it was recommended to extend the alley behind the Grill for truck exiting only in the morning and maintain the pedestrian look with the old brick but upgrading below the brick to hold the weight of the trucks. Bill stated that the Elk's moved their dumpster and installed the compactor in the wrong area. Bill Efting stated that the compactor was to be placed on their property in the back of the building. Lonnie stated that he would look into the encroachment. XMAS LIGHTS Tom Rubel, Parks Dept., showed photos of lighted metal skiers & other metal lighted "objects" (about 5' in height) to be placed on top of the Restrooms at the end of the mall. Tom stated that the Park's Dept. would prefer the skier. He also stated the funding for the skiers would come out o£the Park's Dept. Jon stated that there are problems in the mall, the everygreen trees grow taller but the same amount of lights are put on. Tom Rubel stated that they are pushing the envelope as far as the amount of electricitiy available. He also stated that there is not enough money to upgrade electricity. The wire was sized improperly for the mall. Barbara stated that the electrical upgrade for the mall should come out of the electric departments budget. John stated that the skier is the appropriate size for that building. 2 COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION OCT. 2, 1996 Jon stated that the Electric Dept. should re-examine the mail. He also stated that research should be done of a different kind of lighting that does not use a lot of current. Tom Rubel stated that they could increase the twinkle lights but they are very hard to maintain, i.e. vandals. He stated that the Park's Dept. spends a lot of money on bulb replacements. John stated that the skier would attract vandals. Jon stated that something could be made to remind tourist that Aspen does have a summer season, something like a violinist. He also stated that the board is in favor of some kind of lighted form. Tom asked about the chain in the Red Onion alley. John stated that he hopes it becomes permanent and not to unlock it. Tom stated that the chain has jsut been repaired. GALENA SHUTTLE Tim stated that they presented council with the ideas of extending the Galena Street Shuttle and night parking in the garage and the budget impacts. Council was receptive with both ideas. Alice Hubbard will be working on the Galena Shuttle. one issue was brought up that the shuttle could not mn until 2:00 a.m. ' and another time should be disucssed. The thought would be 10:00 p.m. to midnight. Regarding parking enforcement later on in the evening Council Was opposed to it. He also stated that for night parking incentives for the garage it would cost around aS1.00 after 4:00 p.m. and they will have to work closely with the businesses to promote this. The window at the garage would have to be changed. Jon stated regarding enforcement into the evening and Staff and Council being opposed what is the reasoning behind this. Tim stated that one is the displacement of vehicles and they will probably go to the residential area. He also stated that the personnel would have to carry flash lights and more signs would have to be installed and they would have to be reflective signs. The core would have to be lighted up and the department would 3 CON~MERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION OCT. 2, !996 have to hire more employees. Cotmcil gradually wants to evaluate the situation b~foremaking a decision. MOTION: Jon moved to adjourn; second by Don. All in favor, motion carried. Meeting adjourned at 9:30 a.m. 4