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MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 6, 2002
Chairperson, Bill Dinsmoor called the meeting to order at 8:30 a.m.
Commissioners in attendance: Charles Kennedy, Andrew Kole, Eric Cohen
Commissioners excused: Terry Butler, John Start
MALL LIGHTING - JEFF WOODS
Jeff said the Electric Dept. would change the globes from plastic to glass
next spring. Stream lighting is fiber optic cables that lay in the streams.
The total cost will be around $16,000 to $25,000 for all of the lighting
which includes tree lighting. The CCLC unanimously agreed to proceed
with the Rising Sun lighting project by Christmas. The stream lighting will
temporarily be done and the cables buried in the spring.
MOTION: Andrew moved to approve the lighting project, second by Eric.
All in favor, motion carried.
Yes vote: Bill, Eric, Charles, Andrew
Jeff said the recommendation should be made to management regarding
Rising Sun doing a study for DIG regarding lighting of businesses.
Bill said the up lighting of the trees is a tremendous improvement. He also
relayed that the architectural lighting on our building is horrendous.
Possibly Rising Sun can provide a consulting service that the city could
underwrite or we could find funding. We would also need to meet with the
HPC because the mall is in the commercial core historic district.
Jeff said they removed trees that were sick and diseased and ones that were
recommended for the lighting project.
SATURDAY MARKET - PARK
Charles presented a diagram that conceptually shows the park as a use for
demonstrations only.
Andrew said they would like to expand on Hopkins ½ block west and IA
block toward Main Street toward Galena.
Charles also suggested expanding 2/3 of the block east on Hopkins.
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The board suggested for next year that a semi-permanent stage and a canopy
be erected. Possibly a mirror could be erected to enhance the visual effect
of the demonstrations. Possibly the canopy could be kept up all summer.
Jeff Woods said dedicating a Park for a single use might be difficult to get
passed. If the tent were up all the time it would be difficult to maintain the
grass.
Tim Ware, Parking Director said he could support going further east on
Hopkins to the 600 block as opposed to the other choices. The traffic
pattern flow needs to be ad&'essed. Whatever the choice is, there is loss in
tax revenue. The CCLC supported Hunter toward Main.
Eric relayed that if a half block was approved for booths, from a traffic
standpoint the entire block would have to be blocked off due to traffic
issues even if it wasn't being used.
Charles said to re-coop the revenue the booth fee would have to be
increased, almost double.
Bill said the alley behind city hall is for parking and staging.
Barry said the chefs need something to stand on and he agrees with the
canopy effect, that it would be successful. He also feels that a winery
should be accompanying what the chef serves to offer more to the public.
Tim also brought up the issue of the handicapped parking space on the north
side of Hopkins which has a vehicle parked in it five feet every Saturday.
No vehicles are allowed in the handicapped space. Tim suggested a work
session with city council and directed staff to set up the meeting.
VALET PARKING
Tim said the Little Nell and St. Regis charge $18. Per day for valet parking.
The contract with Brian Wexler is ending and needs to be revisited. The
board suggested that Brian attend the next meeting in order to address all of
the problems and concerns.
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Eric inquired about the problems. Tim said cars are not being parked in the
garage and he is taking more space then he has been given. Cars are left in
the area.
BARRY GORDON
Barry went over the Christmas event.
Staff reminded Barry that he needs to contact the Environmental Health and
the Parks Department regarding his event.
Barry said all he needs is promotional money around $2,000. Andrew
suggested that the media partnership up. KSNO and KNFO should be
contacted.
Eric said you are asking for money that isn't there. Eric said contact the
ACRA because special event funding is in place for local events.
Bill requested that staff contact the legal department regarding a special
taxing district for the purpose of marketing and find out who would vote on
that.
Barry said he is sending out a letter to everyone to join his group.
Charles also said we should be thinking of Conner Park and what needs
built there. Maybe do movies to increase the vitality.
COMPACTORS: NICK ADEH, ENGINEER
Staff relayed that the $4,500 from CCLC budget will be carried forward to
the Electric Dept. for the compactors next year. Engineering,
Environmental Heath and the Clerk's office determined that the two alleys
in which compactors should be address are the ProdaYLittle Annie's alley
and the Little Ollie's alley. Bill said he feels the alley behind the Isis should
also be addressed.
Bill said CCLC needs to be kept in the loop.
Staff said related issues are who notifies the businesses and how do we
notify them. Bill also said the contract needs addressed. We need to know
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what the cost would be to convert service. It should be at no additional
cost. Trash companies make more money off compactors and possibly the
fee should be lower. Everything has to be done simultaneously.
Bill said the city has all kind of potential control. The city might be able to
say no dumpsters as a trash facility. He also suggested that Boogie might do
a Verdi-pack. The second compactor would be by Prada's.
Nick Adeh, City Engineer said the north side of the alleys should be clear of
dumpsters, There are not too many wall attachments on the north side and it
could be a clear path for truck deliveries. All the meters are attached on the
south walls. The south side of both alleys can hold compactors.
Bill asked about the notion to get rid of dumpsters that are even on private
property? Nick said he would support that notion.
Nick said the downtown needs cleaned up and made presentable. If the City
declared the downtown core a trash compacting district then we would be
able to enforce it in our public right-of-ways. All the refuse collection
companies would get an encroachment license and put the trash compactors
in the alley public right-of-ways. Tier two would be to work with the
private owners. If the district ordinance were passed CCLC would have to
work with the collection companies to have them come up and set the
compactors up and operate them. Under that ordinance whomever does not
have containment within their private property will have to join the
program.
Nick said we need to contact the Prada business to see if we can put a box
on their property to handle the electricity, otherwise we have to dig a two-
foot by 175-foot line to the other end of the alley for the transformer to
provide service. It would cost around $6,500 for the two alleys just to mn
service. IfPrada's would agree the cost would be cut in half. We still need
to dig trenches in both alleys but the distance would be lessened. The
control panel on a pedestal would then be installed to provide the
service/hookup. If the ordinance was in place the trash companies could
then assess the users,
Staff asked Nick if we couldn't amend Chapter 12, regarding solid waste
and prohibit dumpsters in the core. Nick said he would have to discuss that
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with the City Attorney to make sure he is comfortable with enforcement
under the purview. Nick also suggested that Chapter 21 of the code could
be modified to say that trash compacting will be enforced in the core area.
Staffasked for clarification regarding the cost. Nick said it would cost
$1,500 for the electricity in the Prada alley without the 175-foot line. If we
cannot get Prada to agree the cost would be $5,000 for the alley. The
service has to be underground.
Nick suggested a letter be drawn up for Prada stating that we are trying to
reclaim the neighborhood and make it more presentable and would you be
open to the city using your electric gutter system attached to your wall
already, Underground line has already been done to the Prada distribution
area that is attached to the Prada building. Jinx Capparella, Electric
Department said the main delivery power line is strong enough to be able to
tap into the box. The meter is independent.
The location in Little Ollie's alley is almost in the center. That fee would be
around $1500. A small trench would have to be dug in that alley. No
cement pad is necessary for either alley.
MOTION: Bill moved to adjourn; second by Eric. Ali in favor, motion
carried.
Meeting adjourned at 10:30 a.m.
Kathleen J. Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk